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Jay Shetty PodcastEsther Perel ON: Finding Love & the Real Reason Couples Break Up
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Esther Perel on Pandemic Strain, Lasting Love, Infidelity, and Why Couples Fail
- Perel says lockdown acted as a relationship accelerator that exposed existing cracks and strengths, removed the 'air' couples need, and suppressed novelty and risk-taking.
- She recommends boundaries, routines, rituals and everyday kindness for coping under pressure, and says that to change a partner you should start by changing how you ask, turning requests into wishes rather than criticisms.
- Perel argues that love is a verb you actively cultivate, not a constant state of enthusiasm, and that it takes more than feelings, since values, thoughts and actions matter too.
- Drawing on John Gottman's work, she names criticism, stonewalling, defensiveness and contempt as relationship killers, adding complacency as a quieter one.
- On infidelity and breakups, she says affairs can be read for their meaning, repair is possible, and people leave when they are internally ready, even if they knew the signs long before.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasLockdown accelerated both beginnings and endings in relationships.
Perel says confronting mortality led people to reprioritize, either moving in together quickly or deciding they had waited long enough to leave, while also revealing a relationship's cracks and strengths.
Boundaries, routines, rituals and kindness help couples under pressure.
Perel says a routine becomes a ritual when it signals something special between you, and that she urges civility and appreciation rather than perfection.
Small household agreements are really about awareness of the other person.
Perel tells Jay that tidying up and dividing workspaces is not about shoes or laptops but about recognizing where you end and your partner begins, holding on to yourself without losing them.
To change your partner, change how you ask.
Perel says criticism triggers defensiveness, so you should state what you want without implying they're failing, since the one thing you control is yourself.
Love is cultivated, and feelings are only one part of it.
Perel says love is a verb and a life story is more than a love story, and that feelings sometimes follow action, alongside values, thoughts and a spiritual dimension.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesIt's not about finding the right person. It's about being the right person.
— Esther Perel
If you ask boring questions, you will feel that people are boring.
— Esther Perel
If you want to change the other, change yourself.
— Esther Perel
The routine says we need to eat. The ritual says there's something special between us.
— Esther Perel
Your purpose is a story, and relationships are stories, too.
— Esther Perel
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Psychotherapist and relationship expert, author of books including "The State of Affairs" and host of "Where Should We Begin?".
Jay Shetty
hostPodcast host of "On Purpose" and author of "Think Like a Monk".
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