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Jay Shetty PodcastJay-Z's Business Partner: How To Transform Your Passion Into Profit (& make MILLIONS)
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Michael Rubin on bold goals, talent, consumer focus, and impact
- Michael Rubin describes entrepreneurship as having the courage to fail, taking action instead of making excuses, and learning through repeated attempts.
- He argues that building winning companies depends heavily on recruiting top talent, aligning on values, and using pattern recognition to evaluate people and predict outcomes.
- He explains how Fanatics looked for stagnant markets—like trading cards—and applied innovation and marketing to modernize the consumer experience while still valuing physical products.
- He says he is motivated less by net worth and more by loving the work, setting audacious goals, and constantly focusing on what his company can improve for consumers.
- He shares how a personal experience with Meek Mill’s court case led him to pursue criminal justice reform through Reform Alliance with a business-like focus on measurable results.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasEntrepreneurship starts with taking the at-bat and accepting failure.
He says many people stop at “I’ve got this great idea, but…,” and he views that hesitation as the first big barrier to entrepreneurship. In his view, you have to take the swing, expect some failure, and use those failures to improve.
Unrelenting persistence and bold goals are central to how he measures progress.
He repeatedly describes himself as “unrelenting,” saying he has survived near-bankruptcy and “epic failures” because he won’t quit. He argues that difficult, audacious goals drive better strategies and progress, while easy goals signal you’re choosing to fail.
Winning depends on recruiting leaders who match the culture and values.
He says he spends 10–20% of a 70–90 hour workweek interviewing because “you can’t win without great talent.” Beyond skills and intellect, he looks for leadership, shared values, long-term commitment, and people who will “figure out how to win.”
Pattern recognition—especially through independent back-channel learning—guides decisions.
He frames pattern recognition as predictive and says it’s core to how he evaluates executives: he does not ask candidates for references, instead calling shared contacts to learn “behind the scenes” patterns. He extends the same idea to observing customers and trends by constantly asking questions of everyday people.
Innovation can be tangible; modernizing old experiences creates opportunity.
In collectibles, he describes a lack of innovation and marketing before Fanatics’ entry, and calls that stagnation “opportunity.” He gives an example: debut jersey patches being pulled after a player’s first game and placed into a one-of-one trading card, showing innovation can be physical, not just digital.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesPart of being an entrepreneur is to have the courage to fail. If you're afraid to fail, you ain't gonna do shit.
— Michael Rubin
There are so many things that I should not have succeeded at, but I have because I, I won't quit.
— Michael Rubin
Listen, the most important thing is enjoying what you do every day.
— Michael Rubin
If you set goals that are easy to accomplish, then you're actually saying you wanna fail to start with.
— Michael Rubin
Our children have become less imaginative about how to problem solve, and parents and coaches have become more directive in trying to tell them how to behave versus teaching them how to behave
— Unattributed
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SPEAKERS
Michael Rubin
guestEntrepreneur and CEO of Fanatics; sports commerce and collectibles executive.
Jay Shetty
hostPodcast host and author; former monk and wellness speaker behind 'On Purpose'.
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