Jay Shetty Podcast

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: My Side that NOBODY Knows (Truth Behind Headlines, Divorce, Co-Parenting)

Today, Jay sits down once again with the incredible Khloé Kardashian to talk about growth, healing, and what it really means to evolve on your own terms. It’s been six years since Khloé first sat down with Jay, and a lot has changed. Now in her 40s, Khloé reflects on the defining moments of her 30s, the clarity she’s found in this new chapter, and how her journey has shaped the woman she is today. In this honest and heartfelt conversation, Khloé opens up about what it really took to move through heartbreak, public judgment, and her own self-doubt. She shares how she learned to forgive herself, let go of shame, and step into a deeper sense of self-awareness. Khloé talks about navigating the pressures around motherhood, relationships, and success — and how therapy, journaling, and her unwavering faith helped her rediscover her worth and inner peace. Jay and Khloé also dive into what it looks like to slow down, make room for solitude, and intentionally choose joy. She offers a glimpse into her daily routines, the spiritual practices that ground her, and how she’s creating a loving, mindful environment for her children, one rooted not in perfection, but in presence and authenticity. Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe here. Join Jay for his first ever, On Purpose Live Tour! Tickets are on sale now. Hope to see you there! What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 03:33 Aging Doesn’t Have to Be Scary 05:17 Visualizing Your Life in Your 40s 06:23 It’s Okay to Be Unsure 07:39 How Maturity Brings Stability 09:35 Why We’re Always Chasing More 12:09 The Truth About Success 13:55 Practice Self-Intentionality 16:42 Stop Letting Validation Control You 19:47 Balancing Accountability and Forgiveness 21:42 Learn to Be Patient with Yourself 23:10 Everyone Learns on Their Own Timeline 24:30 A Path to Self-Forgiveness 27:20 When You Might Be the Problem 29:24 You Are Not Your Mistakes 31:39 The Work Only You Can Do 36:00 Rewiring a Negative Mindset 38:18 Why Therapy Can Be Transformative 41:11 Finding the Courage to Trust Again 43:17 Getting Comfortable with Being Vulnerable 46:19 It’s Brave to Let Yourself Cry 48:28 Understanding Your Love Language 52:02 We All Love Differently 54:21 The Beauty of Giving Love 55:31 Reuniting with Lamar After 9 Years 59:51 Leaving What No Longer Serves You 01:03:46 Releasing Residual Negativity 01:05:15 Why We All Need Empathy 01:09:04 What I Want My Kids to Remember 01:11:35 Why Kids Don’t Need the Internet 01:14:24 Dating as a Mom in Your 40s 01:15:28 How to Date More Intentionally 01:17:31 Embracing Alone Time 01:19:05 Leaning Into the Discomfort Episode Resources: https://www.instagram.com/khloekardashian/ https://x.com/khloekardashian https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJy0RHFC64EC-kqWOfhCb_g https://khloudfoods.com/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/khlo%C3%A9-in-wonder-land/id1785985876 https://www.instagram.com/jayshetty https://www.facebook.com/jayshetty/ https://x.com/jayshetty https://www.linkedin.com/in/shettyjay/ https://www.youtube.com/@JayShettyPodcast http://jayshetty.me

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May 5, 2025·1h 23m·Watch on YouTube ↗

📖 CHAPTERS

1. 1

   Turning 40 with excitement: reframing aging and life milestones

   Khloé shares why she looked forward to turning 40, contrasting it with the pressure and turbulence she associates with her 30s. She and Jay discuss how expectations around marriage, kids, and career often distort how people feel about aging.

2. 2

   Imagining your 40s: upgrading outdated cultural narratives

   They talk about how earlier media depictions made 40s and 50s look ‘old,’ versus today’s examples of vitality. The focus shifts from appearance to energy, passion, and how representation changes our fears.

3. 3

   It’s okay to be unsure: identity shifts from 20s to 40s

   Khloé and Jay normalize not having life figured out early on and describe how careers and priorities evolve. They explore how 20s often come with confidence and rigidity, while 30s and 40s bring clarity and stability.

4. 4

   Escaping comparison and the ‘chasing more’ trap

   Khloé explains how comparison steals joy and how social media amplifies dissatisfaction. She emphasizes shifting from envy to motivation and teaching children small lessons about not needing what others have.

5. 5

   Choosing your mood: intentional mornings, affirmations, and self-leadership

   Khloé describes learning to be intentional—talking to herself, choosing happiness, and setting a tone for the day. She ties this practice to emerging from a long period of heaviness and models the approach with her kids.

6. 6

   Shame after public relationship pain: accountability without self-blame

   Khloé opens up about repeated cheating narratives, the shame that followed her into everyday life, and how public commentary can extend suffering. She and Jay unpack the fine line between taking accountability and carrying responsibility for someone else’s actions.

7. 7

   Self-forgiveness and boundaries: releasing the belief that ‘I’m the problem’

   They explore how Khloé learned to give herself the same grace she gives others, supported by faith, writing, and clearer boundaries. Jay reinforces the distinction between ‘I made a mistake’ and ‘I am a mistake.’

8. 8

   The work only you can do: solitude, routine, and rewiring coping patterns

   Khloé contrasts past coping through distraction (partying, avoidance) with her current commitment to alone time, early mornings, prayer, and reflection. They discuss discomfort as a pathway to new habits and a healthier mindset.

9. 9

   Therapy and learning to trust: from numb storytelling to feeling again

   Khloé explains why she returned to therapy, how trust was built, and what it revealed about emotional numbness. She describes using humor as a defense mechanism and learning that crying and grief are not weakness.

10. 10

    Caretaker identity and love language: earning love, being ‘the rock,’ and self-worth

    Khloé reflects on why she’s often the caregiver—linking it to being compared, criticized, and feeling she had to ‘earn’ belonging. Jay highlights how strengths can become overgiving without boundaries, and how people love differently.

11. 11

    Reuniting with Lamar after nearly a decade: closure, triggers, and outgrowing love

    Khloé recounts how the reunion happened through a chance connection and her desire to return meaningful items safely. Seeing Lamar brought unexpected triggers, sadness, and a realization of how much she has grown since their relationship ended.

12. 12

    Empathy as strength: showing up for people who hurt you

    Khloé explains why she can act with compassion without being ‘weak,’ citing examples of supporting Lamar after his overdose and housing Tristan and his brother after a family death. She argues empathy helps her sleep at night with integrity.

13. 13

    Parenting priorities: raising kids with love, presence, and healthy tech boundaries

    Khloé shares what she hopes her children remember—kindness, love, faith, and presence. She discusses minimizing internet exposure, modeling good phone habits, and keeping fame from becoming central in her children’s identity.

14. 14

    Dating in your 40s as a mom: moving slower, practicing social skills, leaning into discomfort

    Khloé describes being fulfilled while single and the fear of getting too comfortable alone. She shares a practical approach—monthly dinners to rebuild social ‘muscle’—and explains how motherhood forces healthier pacing and intentionality in dating.