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Jay Shetty PodcastLewis Howes ON: Unlocking The POWER OF YOUR MIND For Success & Abundance! | Jay Shetty
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Five Years in the Making: Lewis's Book and Friendship with Jay
Jay introduces Lewis Howes and his new book, The Greatness Mindset, and they recall how they met at Nasdaq on the release day of Lewis's earlier book. Jay asks what Lewis spent five years thinking about before releasing it.
- •Lewis is nearing 10 years of his podcast, with almost 1,400 episodes
- •Jay and Lewis became friends the day Lewis's second book came out
- •Lewis wanted to write this book after The Mask of Masculinity
- •He didn't feel authentic enough to put the content out until he had healed internally
Healing Patterns in Relationships and Self-Abandonment
Lewis explains the pattern he kept repeating in relationships, which led him into intensive coaching and therapy. He describes the wound of abandoning himself to please others and how Jay reflects on becoming someone you don't recognize.
- •Lewis kept repeating relationship patterns based on a wound
- •He did long weekend coaching and therapy sessions to find what was holding him back
- •He felt free when single but trapped in intimacy
- •Jay says it isn't worth becoming someone you don't know to please someone you think you love
Rewiring Money Blocks and Giving Back
Lewis asks Jay what unblocked his financial fear. Jay describes growing up with a scarcity mindset about money and the moment he could give six figures to a charity.
- •Jay grew up hearing that people with money must have done something shady
- •He once had 150 million views while four months from being broke
- •Scarcity limits you, so he had to rewire his relationship with money
- •His breakthrough was giving over six figures to a charity he loved
- •Money only makes you more of who you are
The Moment the Fear of Being Trapped Unlocked
Lewis tells his story of committing to six months of therapy and the moment his coach told him he was free. He describes the pain in his chest dissolving and the ongoing integration of healing.
- •He paid in advance and committed to finding a solution
- •A weekend with friends showed him what feeling accepted was like
- •His coach told him he wasn't trapped and could walk away at any time
- •Embracing the fear released the ball of pain in his chest
- •It was a lifetime of practice that unlocked in a single moment
Motivation vs. Discipline: Success Versus Greatness
Jay asks about the difference between motivation and discipline. Lewis says motivation suits people without a meaningful mission, while discipline comes from an identity tied to service, and he describes shifting from selfish success to greatness at 30.
- •Motivation is for those without a meaningful mission, discipline for those clear on identity and mission
- •At 30 Lewis realized success was selfish and greatness was about service
- •He moved from competition to collaboration
- •A guest he interviewed rated his inner peace a five despite outer success
- •If your inner emotional state is suffering, you are losing
The Three Ps: Passion, Power, and Problem
Responding to Jay's question about whether to seek success before service, Lewis lays out the three Ps. He covers passions, invisible assets, turning fears into superpowers like public speaking, and choosing a problem to solve.
- •The three Ps are passion, power, and the problem you want to solve
- •Invisible assets such as curiosity and joy can be a currency
- •Lewis built a fear list and overcame his fear of public speaking through Toastmasters and a mentor
- •You can support a problem as a team player without being the founder
- •You don't need it all figured out at 25 or 31
Discipline and Living in Your Season of Life
Jay and Lewis discuss how passion still requires doing things you don't enjoy, and how discipline serves a meaningful mission. Lewis explains seasons of life and reflection, using the example of why this book wasn't ready five years ago.
- •Following your passion doesn't mean doing what you like every day
- •Discipline keeps you consistent on tasks that aren't fun
- •Lack of clarity about your mission for this season causes confusion and stress
- •Lewis compares life seasons to sports seasons and values time to reflect
- •The book wasn't right five years ago because he hadn't figured it out internally
Face It Until You Embrace It: Overcoming Fear and Familiar Patterns
Jay asks how to get ready when you don't feel ready. Lewis rejects "fake it till you make it" in favor of facing fear until you embody it, and explains how fear keeps us in familiar patterns.
- •Lewis prefers "face it until you embrace it"
- •His fear was being inauthentic as a messenger, not writing the book
- •You can't out-analyze fear; you have to experience it
- •People repeat familiar patterns, such as ignoring doubts on a wedding day, for fear of letting others down
The Three Fears: Failure, Success, and Judgment
Lewis and Jay go through the three main fears. Jay describes his own fear of failure before going online, and Lewis explains failure as feedback, fear of success through the Weight of Gold documentary, and judgment as his own kryptonite.
- •Jay feared criticism and no one caring for two years before posting
- •Fear of failure stops us from trying
- •Lewis learned from sports that failure is feedback
- •Weight of Gold shows the pressure that comes with success
- •Underneath all three fears is the belief "I'm not enough"
Meaningful Mission, Fame, and Knowing Your Season
They discuss how a meaningful mission carries you regardless of followers or fame. Lewis and Jay address people who feel purpose is too heavy, saying your season may be just getting on your feet, and Lewis redefines greatness as changing the world around and within you.
- •A meaningful mission continues whether or not people are following
- •Lewis wrote his last book not caring whether it sold one copy or a million
- •Lewis's mission when broke on his sister's couch was to afford his own place
- •Jay compares it to solving the fire in the apartment before hosting friends
- •Greatness is changing the world around you and within you
Finding Coaches, Paying in Advance, and Lifting Others Up
Jay praises Lewis for passing the ball to others and asks how he finds teachers and stays committed. Lewis explains paying in advance, how he chooses who to trust, and how shining light on others became his practice, with Jay sharing his charity-based coaching model.
- •Lewis pays coaches in advance for forced discipline
- •He asks respected people for referrals and does an intro session
- •He learned win-win ten years ago and was inspired by Oprah shining light on others
- •Genuine curiosity and listening can't be used as a manipulative technique
- •Jay donates the full fee of his private coaching to the client's chosen charity
Jay's Year Ahead: Tour, Rest, and Going Deep
Lewis asks Jay what he is looking forward to this year. Jay describes the book tour as an outpouring of gratitude, then a plan for rest, study, and creativity, citing his monk teacher's advice about going deep to go forward.
- •Jay is excited for his first tour and to connect with people in person
- •The tour comes from gratitude
- •He plans more study, creativity, and presence in the second half of the year
- •His teacher said to go three steps deep to go three steps forward
Living in the Season You've Reached
Lewis asks what lesson Jay expects at the end of the year. Jay answers that it is to live in the season you've reached rather than staying in an old energy state, and that a healthy life involves doing less of what you don't love.
- •Staying in the same energy state leads to burnout and confusion
- •Time and life change, so your energy has to shift
- •A healthy life means doing less and less of what you don't love
- •He aims to start afresh rather than repeat what's been done
Focus on Who You're Becoming: Dreams That Didn't Come True
Lewis says the person you become matters more than goals, and that a life can be a dream come true even when dreams don't. He uses his eight and a half years with the USA team without making the Olympics as his example, before the hosts close with calls to action for both books.
- •Focus on who you become to create your dreams
- •Both Lewis and Jay have projects and pitches that didn't work out but changed who they became
- •Lewis played eight and a half years for the USA team and never made the Olympics
- •He finds the meaning, memory, and magic in experiences that didn't work out
- •Lewis asks listeners to buy both his and Jay's books and tag them
Publisher timestamps
- 0:00Intro
- 10:04This is how it felt growing up in a family with financial limitations.
- 14:46When you finally find the courage to work on yourself, you become more authentic.
- 19:30What is the difference between motivation and discipline?
- 23:21Lewis explains what role our inner emotional state plays in our success.
- 25:45* The 3 P’s to help you figure out what you want to do with your life.
- 33:50How does discipline keep you organized and focused on your mission?
- 36:37What is the right way to get ready even when you don’t want to do it?
- 39:44Why do we always get stuck in the same pattern of familiarity?
- 43:53This is the reason why the fear of failure stops us from trying and doing our best.
- 50:48The misconception about greatness that we don’t know about.
- 58:39The more you become for others, the brighter your own path will be.
- 1:08:26What are you looking forward to this year?
- 1:11:48What does it truly mean “to live in the season that you have reached?”
- 1:14:50Stop doing other things and start focusing on the person you are becoming.
