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Jay Shetty Podcast

Noah Cyrus ON: FOCUS ON YOURSELF, NOT OTHERS - Stop Negative Thoughts & Build SELF LOVE

Today I sit down with the very amazing Noah Cyrus. Noah is a Grammy award-nominee, multi platinum, Nashville-born and Los Angeles-based singer and songwriter.

Noah CyrusguestJay Shettyhost

Sep 19, 202250mWatch on YouTube

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Noah Cyrus on not feeling “confident” and learning to grow in public
Noah reacts to Jay’s introduction and shares that she’s in a much better place than when they last spoke. She opens up immediately about not feeling confident most of the time, framing her journey as ongoing learning and growth.
- •Jay welcomes listeners and frames the show around healing, creativity, and connection
- •Noah says she’s doing much better than when they previously spoke and feels more present now
- •She responds to the idea of confidence by saying she rarely feels it, but is constantly learning and growing
- •They acknowledge how outward resilience can look like confidence even when it doesn’t feel that way internally
Wishing days were longer: family time, Nashville, and the story behind “Hardest Part”
Jay asks about a joyful video of Noah and her dad, which leads Noah into her recurring feeling that time isn’t enough—especially when she’s with family. She connects that feeling to the title track of her album and the experience of missing her dad across different homes and difficult family periods.
- •Noah describes an emotional longing for longer days, especially when she’s with her dad or in Nashville
- •She explains she hadn’t seen her dad in a long time before the day that inspired her feelings
- •She ties the emotion of missing time with him to the title track “Hardest Part”
- •She describes music as her outlet for emotions and for expressing what went unsaid in her family
Healing the inner child: identifying emotions through therapy and staying consistent
Jay asks how Noah realized healing her inner child was a goal. Noah explains that therapy helped her trace present struggles back to childhood emotions, and that consistency—especially on good days—matters because the work is ongoing.
- •Noah says identifying emotions and their roots led her to childhood connections
- •She credits her therapist and committing to therapy more consistently than before
- •She notes it’s tempting to avoid therapy when feeling good, but continuing is important
- •She emphasizes the value of having an outlet to process emotions, whatever form it takes
Body image, dysmorphia, and learning to love her younger self
Noah shares that self-love and body image were major wounds that started early. She describes the pain of not being able to love her younger self and how that realization became a starting point for healing and protection of her inner child.
- •Noah names self-love, body image, and body dysmorphia as central challenges
- •She describes how difficult it was to look at her younger self with love
- •She reframes her younger self as a fragile child deserving care and protection
- •She explains how internal experience can feel lonely even with a supportive family
Bullying, trust issues, and the ‘circular’ nature of progress toward self-acceptance
Jay asks what it’s like to hear praise externally while feeling the opposite internally. Noah explains how severe bullying made it hard to believe compliments, creating trust issues and a continuing struggle to accept herself—while recognizing progress moves in cycles.
- •Noah describes progress as circular: moving up while still having downturns
- •She says online bullying left lasting scars and made praise hard to trust
- •She shares how that contributed to broader trust issues with people in her life
- •She explains the challenge of accepting her body and identity as they are
- •She admits she often feels like hiding, even while continuing to show up publicly
Music as recovery structure: building ‘The Hardest Part’ through routine, focus, and craft
Noah describes making the album as a deeply healing period, especially while in recovery. She explains how a structured studio schedule, therapy, and rediscovering musicianship gave her stability and helped her reconnect with herself artistically.
- •Noah says the album process helped her feel in touch with her musicianship and identity as an artist
- •She describes needing structure, focus, and an outlet about six months into recovery
- •She details the studio routine: planning weeks on a whiteboard and working song-by-song
- •She shares her daily rhythm: walk dogs, therapy, then studio work
- •She says routine helped prevent slipping into isolation and staying in bed for long stretches
Falling in and out of love: discouragement, reclaiming her vision, and writing about drifting apart
Jay explores the idea that we can fall out of love with what we once loved—like music or relationships. Noah explains she didn’t fully fall out of love with music, but struggled when others influenced her direction; she regained trust by experimenting, playing instruments, and finding her sound, while also sharing a song about falling out of love with someone.
- •Noah describes discouragement from having many voices around her pushing a certain image or direction
- •She says she stopped trusting her own vision when she felt others didn’t trust it either
- •She shares how playing instruments and embedding herself in the music reignited excitement
- •She talks about writing being painful at times but emotionally dynamic across different life moments
- •She connects the ‘falling out of love’ theme to a song about two people drifting apart and needing mutual investment to rekindle connection
Do people change? Growth vs. change, expectations, and what transformation really takes
Noah asks Jay directly whether people change, referencing her EP title and her own uncertainty about changing at the core. Jay distinguishes possibility from probability and argues people change for themselves, not for others; together they explore the idea of growth as a daily process versus expecting instant change from someone else.
- •Noah questions whether people change at the core, sharing her back-and-forth feelings about it
- •Jay says change is possible but not very probable, often requiring major pain or turmoil to catalyze it
- •Jay argues people don’t change for someone else; they change when they decide it’s necessary for themselves
- •They agree people can grow while still retaining core traits and values
- •Jay contrasts how we view our own growth (slow, daily) versus how we demand quick change from others
A life-changing decision: stopping Xanax, survival, and the emotions of shame and regret
Noah shares the most significant change she’s made: stopping Xanax, which she says was ruining her life and making her feel profoundly alone. She describes a moment of clarity, reaching out for help, and the ongoing emotional aftermath—shame, guilt, and regret—while learning to be gentler with herself.
- •Noah identifies quitting Xanax as the most major change and says it saved her life
- •She describes how substances felt like comfort while deepening isolation and despair
- •She recounts having a brief moment of clarity, making calls for help, and choosing to change direction
- •She explains wanting to share her experience without trying to be an ‘example’
- •She describes feeling shame, guilt, and regret when looking back at posts and interviews from that time
‘You can’t make a god of somebody’: idolizing partners and redirecting devotion to self and craft
Jay reads a lyric from “I Burned LA Down” and asks about the idea of making a god of someone. Noah explains how she previously centered her entire life around another person—especially during COVID isolation—and how that worshipful dependence shifted when she poured that energy into her music, self-discovery, and self-love.
- •Jay highlights the lyric about not making a god of somebody and asks where it came from
- •Noah describes relying on others because it was hard to rely on herself in the past
- •She recounts a relationship dynamic where her daily emotional state revolved around one person’s moods and approval
- •She describes the feeling as ‘worship’ and says she redirected that energy toward her album and music
- •She briefly mentions renewed curiosity about spirituality, the universe, energy, and what God means to her
Building an ‘I can’ mentality: new beliefs, daily battles, and the thoughts we repeat
Jay asks what belief Noah holds now that helps her move forward. Noah shares that she repeats an ‘I can’ mindset, supported by a wrist tattoo (“You will be”), while acknowledging she still battles doubt and struggles to say kind things about herself; Jay expands on how easily negative self-talk becomes unquestioned.
- •Noah says her guiding belief is that she can do what she sets her mind to, including recovery
- •She references a wrist tattoo (“You will be”) as a reminder of becoming who she’s working to be
- •She acknowledges that despite sounding confident, she still experiences internal battles and self-doubt
- •Jay reflects on how people accept negative thoughts quickly but question positive ones
- •Jay shares a story about being asked what he’s thinking about to highlight how thoughts shape identity and direction
The Many Sides To Us: sincerity, sensitivity, self-description, and defining the album’s honesty
Jay introduces the closing segment where Noah answers prompts from different perspectives. They land on sincerity and sensitivity, discuss how sensitivity can be both painful and compassionate, and Noah describes herself as loving and giving; she also characterizes the album as deeply personal and honest so listeners can find themselves in it.
- •Jay describes Noah’s first-impression energy as sincere and genuine
- •Noah says someone close (she thinks of her mom) would describe her as sensitive, in good and bad ways
- •They discuss sensitivity as a source of compassion, even if it can be misunderstood
- •Noah describes herself as extremely loving and giving, noting it’s hard for her to compliment herself
- •Noah describes ‘The Hardest Part’ as personal and honest, and says honesty is what makes it relatable
‘Stand still’: her dad’s phrase, staying present, and closing reflections
Noah shares the phrase she’s trying to embody—“stand still”—which she learned from her dad and uses when she doesn’t know what to do. The episode closes with Jay encouraging listeners to stream the album and Noah reflecting that the conversation helped her amid grief and anxiety.
- •Noah says she’s trying to embody ‘stand still’—a phrase her dad has said since she was young
- •She explains it as permission to pause, take time, and reevaluate when uncertain
- •She admits it’s hard for her to be still, making the practice especially meaningful
- •Jay encourages listeners to stream the album and share reflections by tagging them
- •Noah shares that, after her grandmother’s passing, talking helped her process conflicting feelings

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