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Jay Shetty Podcast

Orlando Bloom's 3 Relationship Principles You Can Use TODAY: "Do I Feel Safe, Seen, and Celebrated?"

Today, let’s welcome the one and only Orlando Bloom. Orlando gained widespread fame for his roles in some of the most popular films including The Lord of the Rings trilogy and the Pirates of the Caribbean series.

Orlando BloomguestJay Shettyhost

Apr 22, 20241h 34mWatch on YouTube

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Deep fears, fear of fear, and a quick welcome to Orlando Bloom
Orlando Bloom opens by reflecting on how deep fears can come from unconscious, long-running patterns. Jay Shetty welcomes him to the show, setting up a conversation that will repeatedly return to fear, trust, and personal growth.
- •Orlando Bloom says his deepest fears may be tied to historical patterns of behavior or thinking he wasn’t fully conscious of
- •He describes fear as something he wants to confront and transform, even saying he’s "afraid of fear"
- •Jay Shetty introduces and welcomes Orlando Bloom
Why Orlando is doing podcasts now—and what “To The Edge” is about
Jay asks why Orlando is opening up to podcast conversations. Orlando shares that his new unscripted show, "To The Edge," grew out of a fear-saturated time during COVID and his desire to engage fear directly.
- •Orlando Bloom says "To The Edge" is his first time working in an unscripted space and he’s proud of it
- •He describes wanting a heart-centered conversation and having wanted to connect with Jay for a long time
- •He says the show emerged during COVID when fear felt "palpable"
- •Orlando explains an earlier idea to explore “blue zones” didn’t get traction before the extreme-concept pivot
Childhood fear, stage fright, and finding focus on stage
Jay asks about Orlando’s earliest childhood fear, and Orlando recalls intense stage fright from a childhood ballet performance. He explains how performing paradoxically became a place of focus when school felt challenging.
- •Orlando Bloom recounts a childhood theater memory in a monkey suit that heightened his fear of being on stage
- •He describes persistent stage fright even as he continued doing youth theater and school performances
- •He shares how prayer and religious practice were part of his early life
- •He contrasts stage focus with struggles in school around concentration and articulating thoughts
Dyslexia, suspected ADHD, and channeling a different kind of “magic”
Orlando reflects on being diagnosed with dyslexia and later recognizing traits he associates with ADHD. He describes learning to navigate these challenges and discovering strengths within them.
- •Orlando Bloom says he was diagnosed with dyslexia around age nine or ten and received extra support
- •He describes difficulty with focus and concentration and later suspecting undiagnosed ADHD early on
- •He says he has come to find a "magic" in how his mind works
Discovering Buddhist practice at 16 through chanting and community
Orlando shares how he encountered chanting while studying for A-levels and how it quickly became meaningful. He describes the practice as a guide to life and a “roadmap” he had been seeking.
- •Orlando Bloom says he met a Buddhist practice at 16 after moving to London
- •He recalls first hearing chanting from an artist who said he was chanting for Orlando’s success
- •Orlando describes quickly joining in and later being introduced more formally to the practice
- •He says the practice brought values like integrity, wisdom, courage, and compassion into his thinking
Mentors, SGI membership, and how chanting shaped his sense of cause-and-effect
Orlando explains key terms and how he became more committed over time, including joining the SGI. He describes chanting as keeping him “in rhythm” and links it to intention, cause-and-effect, and life flow.
- •Orlando Bloom describes being introduced (“shakubuku”) and later receiving the Gohonzon scroll
- •He explains chanting as a way to stay in rhythm and flow
- •He shares a story of using chanting during a long still-life art exam and receiving top results
- •He frames the practice around intention-setting and cause-and-effect
Ikeda, the Lotus Sutra, and “polishing the mirror” through practice
Jay asks about philosophical anchors, and Orlando describes Daisaku Ikeda as his mentor and explains core ideas he associates with chanting. He connects the practice to reflection, mortality, and reframing obstacles as opportunities for growth.
- •Orlando Bloom explains who Daisaku Ikeda is and describes Ikeda’s role in spreading the practice globally
- •He connects "Nam myoho renge kyo" to devotion to a mystic law of cause and effect and references the Lotus Sutra
- •He describes chanting as “polishing my mirror,” helping him see what’s inside more clearly
- •He reframes obstacles as inevitable and potentially beneficial depending on how they’re met
The Eight Winds, public scrutiny, and creating his own narrative
Orlando shares the teaching of the Eight Winds and reflects on being swayed by praise and censure during years of heavy tabloid attention. He describes using his practice for perspective and starting Instagram to shape his own narrative.
- •Orlando Bloom quotes the Eight Winds teaching about not being swayed by praise/censure, honor/disgrace, pleasure/suffering, prosperity/decline
- •He recalls a period when public scrutiny felt constant and deeply challenging
- •He says his partner Katy encouraged Instagram as a way to “create a narrative”
- •He reflects on learning not to hide and on seeing mistakes as part of growth and texture in life
Fear on the edge: trust, capability, control, and being present under pressure
Jay explores the internal fear behind extreme sports. Orlando describes the mental battle as trust—trusting training, protocols, others’ expertise, and his own capability—while noticing how control-seeking shows up when he feels out of control.
- •Orlando Bloom says the internal fear comes back to trust, faith, and self-worth
- •He describes learning protocols and becoming capable as a path through fear
- •He recounts moments of frustration and fear during climbing, including feeling responsible for another person’s safety
- •He notices his mind grasping for control (even obsessing over small details like a T-shirt) when overwhelmed
Everyday presence, gratitude, and an “any moment could be the last” realization
Orlando explains how he tries to feel alive both in extreme moments and in ordinary life. He describes returning to breath, stillness, gratitude, and shares a medicine journey message that changed how he treats interactions with people.
- •Orlando Bloom contrasts extreme thrills with simple challenges that can be hard for others (like stepping outside)
- •He says he returns to chanting, breath, stillness, and gratitude when overwhelmed
- •He shares a medicine journey where he set an intention around the feminine and received guidance about gratitude and nurturing the feminine within himself
- •He recounts a message: when you’re with someone, it may be the last time you see them—so “make it great”
Relationships as a mirror: letting go, safe/seen/celebrated, and raising kids with practice
Jay frames partnership as a powerful mirror, and Orlando describes relationship growth through continual letting go and choosing each other daily. Orlando shares how the Hoffman process clarified “safe, seen, and celebrated,” and how he gently introduces chanting and values to his children.
- •Orlando Bloom says relationships teach him to let go of control, expectations, and “holding on”
- •He describes the daily choice in long-term commitment and how partners change over time
- •He shares his Hoffman Institute experience and the framework of feeling safe, seen, and celebrated (and offering that back)
- •He explains how he introduces chanting to his children without overwhelming them and reinforces respectful, supportive values through conversations
Discipline in an overexposed world, being enough, and the fear of being alone
Orlando reflects on self-discipline as protection against overwhelm, especially with phones, information overload, and changes in technology. He then answers Jay’s question about his current edge: untangling inherited patterns, self-worth, and learning to be okay with being alone and “enough.”
- •Orlando Bloom emphasizes self-discipline as a crucial skill for not being ruled by phones, apps, and constant information
- •He describes the danger of switching to autopilot when overwhelmed and the need to simplify with small touchstones like walks and breath
- •He says his practice has been an anchor that “maintained” him, even when he doesn’t always chant consistently
- •He identifies current fears around self-worth and being alone—being good in his own company and believing he is enough
Final Five: respect, gratitude rituals, and “making all mothers happy”
Jay closes with the show’s rapid “Final Five,” drawing out Orlando’s core values. Orlando returns repeatedly to respect, gratitude, and reads an excerpt he attributes to Daisaku Ikeda about leadership guided by “making all mothers happy.”
- •Orlando Bloom shares advice from his mother: respect everyone “from the doorman to the director”
- •He describes a family gratitude ritual in the morning and at night, followed by chanting
- •He says he no longer values other people’s opinions of him the way he used to
- •He proposes a universal law rooted in respecting life and reads an Ikeda excerpt emphasizing leaders guided by “making all mothers happy”
Closing thanks and a brief promo for another episode
Jay thanks Orlando for his openness and encourages viewers to watch "The Edge" and share takeaways on social media. The video ends with a short recommendation for a separate episode featuring Rick Rubin.
- •Jay Shetty thanks Orlando Bloom for vulnerability and describes the conversation as a shared discovery
- •Jay promotes "The Edge" and invites audience feedback and tagging on social platforms
- •A short outro promotes a different episode about creativity with Rick Rubin

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