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These Kids Are TELEPATHIC! They Can Read Minds, See Auras & Speak to The Other Side! | Ky Dickens

Filmmaker Ky Dickens shares the extraordinary discoveries from The Telepathy Tapes, revealing how non-speaking individuals can read minds with 95% accuracy, see auras around living things, and connect in a mysterious telepathic "chat room…

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Mar 3, 20251h 32mWatch on YouTube

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Ky's Path from Social Justice Filmmaker to The Telepathy Tapes
Jay Shetty asks who Ky Dickens was before this work. She describes her background in social justice documentaries, the loss of two friends, and the reading that led her to Dr. Diane Hennacy Powell's research on telepathy in non-speakers.
- •Ky made documentaries on issues like healthcare access and paid family leave
- •The deaths of two close friends set her searching for big answers
- •A friend told her to start reading, and she explored animal consciousness, plant communication and reincarnation research
- •A podcast interview with Dr. Powell struck her like a lightning bolt
- •Her brother's place on the autism spectrum shaped her trust in non-speakers as truthful messengers
What Telepathy Means and the Range of Gifts Parents Report
Ky explains that telepathy classically means reading minds, but parents describe something bigger, such as shared consciousness. She gives examples ranging from knowing a parent's day to reading Harry Potter through a sister's mind.
- •Telepathy historically means reading someone's mind
- •Parents suspect a shared consciousness or merging rather than simple mind reading
- •Examples include knowing a parent's day and reading books through a sister's mind
- •Teachers report students seeing through their eyes or hearing through their ears
Meeting Dr. Powell and Testing Telepathy Firsthand
Ky describes contacting Dr. Powell and seeing the volume of emails from parents worldwide. She then ran her own test with a family she had never met, where a girl named Mia read her mom's mind repeatedly.
- •Dr. Powell's inbox held emails from parents around the world
- •Many parents were skeptical themselves, including a doctor who tested it at home
- •Ky set up her own test with a family Dr. Powell had never tested
- •Parents say they no longer need proof and want to know why it happens
How Parents Discover Spelling and Apraxia
Ky explains how parents who were given little hope found spelling to communicate, and how telepathy claims emerged once children got open on the board. She stresses that she sees this as being about apraxia, the mind-body disconnect, rather than autism.
- •Spelling uses a gross motor skill (pointing) rather than the fine motor skill of speech
- •Getting open on the board means the child drives the conversation
- •Ky frames the topic as apraxia, not autism, and says some diagnoses may be wrong
- •COVID home-teaching helped parents see how much their kids knew
- •Listeners now report doing telepathy tests and children feeling safe to share
Science's Response and Observing Non-Speakers Ethically
Asked how the scientific world has responded, Ky says psi research exists but non-speaker gifts are a new frontier. She argues for Jane Goodall-style immersion rather than lab settings like Faraday cages.
- •Earlier telepathy, psi and precognition research has been fairly conclusive in her view
- •She likens good research to immersing yourself in nature as Goodall did
- •She pleads for scientists to learn a letterboard and spend time with non-speakers
- •She doubts Faraday cage-style testing is the most empowering approach
Psi Abilities, Intuition and Consciousness as Fundamental
Jay asks how telepathy differs from intuition. Ky says they come from the same place and lays out her view that consciousness sits at the bottom of the pyramid, not the top, which makes psi abilities make sense.
- •Psi abilities such as intuition and telepathy likely share a source
- •Materialism is mostly right but leaves consciousness unexplained
- •Ky inverts the pyramid, making consciousness fundamental and physical reality secondary
- •Episode six of the series covers this science
Remote Viewing and the CIA's Stargate Programs
Ky points to remote viewing as an easy psi ability to validate, drawing on Annie Jacobsen's book on declassified CIA programs. She also shares a workshop experience where she and a friend drew the same picture.
- •Declassified CIA programs used remote viewing from coordinates
- •Viewers were statistically accurate even in a submarine underwater
- •A Burbank police chief became one of the best viewers, and Uri Geller was tested with drawings in a closed box
- •Russia, China and the US have explored psi for warfare and spying
- •At a workshop, Ky and a friend drew matching images of a target
Trust, Belief and the Wider Gifts: Auras, Dreams and the Other Side
Jay asks what gave Ky confidence in a world that dismisses invisible things. Ky says to meet the sincere parents and non-speakers first, and describes how love and belief relate to psi, plus reports of languages, precognition and messages from the other side.
- •Ky says to forget the telepathy and meet the people
- •Parents who don't know each other tell consistent stories, which argues against a conspiracy
- •Love underlies many psi experiences, and belief matters as in the placebo effect
- •Non-speakers report knowing unlearned languages, predicting events and bringing messages from the dead
Dr. Powell's Savant Thesis and the Cost of Challenging Materialism
After a sponsor break, Jay asks what convinced Dr. Powell. Ky explains her thesis that ESP is a savant skill, how Powell faced a licensing board over her book, and what kept her going.
- •Powell argues ESP should be considered a savant skill
- •ESP means knowing something without the five senses
- •Materialist institutions make publishing and funding hard
- •Powell's license was threatened after her book tour, and she nearly retired
- •Ky says the truth was worth risking her own reputation
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All Truth Goes Through Three Stages
Jay and Ky compare the resistance to this work with past breakthroughs. Ky cites the quote about truth being ridiculed, opposed, then accepted, with examples such as Mendel and the Wright brothers, and Jay ties it to AI.
- •Ky quotes that truth is first ridiculed, then violently opposed, then accepted as self-evident
- •Examples include Mendel's genes, the flat Earth and the Wright brothers
- •Backlash and character assassination come with big news
- •Jay links the moment to AI and the need for spiritual exploration alongside it
Future Research, Shared Consciousness and Test Results
Ky says the reason is not yet known due to lack of funding, and describes plans for brain scans and a round table with scientists. She also explains the near-100% test accuracy, with misses due to spelling errors, and the colors and auras non-speakers describe.
- •Powell now has funding and wants MRI and QEG scans
- •Ky hopes for a non-speaking science advisor and a scientist round table
- •A Wisconsin teacher suggests shared consciousness, with the body like a TV receiving a signal
- •Her main concern is exploitation of non-speakers and families
- •Reported misses were spelling issues like double taps, and the Doritos disruption
- •Non-speakers describe colors around letters and auras around people, plants and rocks
Purpose and Reevaluating What Was Dismissed
Jay asks whether this work feels like Ky's purpose. She says it does, citing Frankl, and describes how the work led her to reconsider rocks, crystals, mediumship and survival of consciousness.
- •Ky calls this work fully her purpose, linking to Frankl's idea of meaning
- •Seeing telepathy repeatedly led her to reconsider other dismissed ideas
- •Parents received messages from the other side relevant to their lives
- •She now believes consciousness survives death and that love is the baseline
- •She sees non-speakers as teachers
Science Catching Up with Spirituality and Vetting Real Abilities
Jay connects Ky's view to Eastern ideas of consciousness and to meditation and sunlight practices validated by science. They discuss indigenous understanding, charlatans existing because real abilities exist, and testing of mediums.
- •Jay links consciousness to the Eastern qualities of knowledge, eternity and bliss
- •Meditation and breathwork moved from dismissed to accepted
- •Ky says native groups would say telepathy is obvious
- •Fakes exist because the real thing exists
- •Ky cites organizations that blind-test mediums and found about 15% to be the real deal
Why We Resist, and Whether Anyone Can Develop These Abilities
Jay asks why resistance runs so deep, and Ky says change is uncomfortable and psi is vulnerable territory. She then says she believes everyone has these abilities to some degree and shares teachers' reports of two-way telepathy.
- •People resist change and the vulnerability around psi makes skepticism protective
- •Ky believes everyone has these abilities to a degree, like athletic skill
- •Teachers report hearing students' voices and full sentences in their heads
- •A non-speaker asked why anyone tries to measure telepathy but not love
Telepathy in Animals
Jay asks about animals and telepathy. Ky describes mental fields, Rupert Sheldrake's research on pets knowing when owners come home, and the story of elephants mourning Lawrence Anthony.
- •Schools of fish and murmurations suggest shared mental fields
- •Sheldrake studied pets anticipating owners' arrival
- •Elephants gathered at Lawrence Anthony's house after he died
- •They returned on the anniversary of his death for years
Spelling's Stigma and the Right to Communicate
Jay raises the speech-language association's position that spelling is pseudoscience. Ky explains the history of facilitated communication, compares it to the slow acceptance of sign language and braille, and argues communication is a basic human right.
- •Stigma stems from facilitated communication and its touch-related court cases
- •Today's speller method involves no touch
- •Sign language and braille were once rejected or outlawed
- •Testing criteria for spelling keep changing
- •Ky says some spellers need a trusted partner nearby and thinks people should ask why that link matters
Daily Magic and Historical Voices on Telepathy
Ky shares everyday telepathic moments from her team and a mom who called as she went to lunch. Jay describes messaging people he thinks of, and Ky cites Mark Twain's mental telegraphy and Upton Sinclair's Mental Radio.
- •Ky's producer met a girl who knew her name and her child's name
- •A mom phoned Ky just as she walked out for lunch
- •Jay messages people when he thinks of them and often hears they were thinking of him
- •Mark Twain and Upton Sinclair documented similar experiences
Dreams, Lucid Dreaming and John Paul and Lily
Jay asks about dreams and telepathy. Ky tells of a non-speaker who brings his mother into lucid dreams and writes music with her, then describes John Paul and Lily's largely telepathic relationship and why non-speakers are individuals, not oracles.
- •A non-speaker who never learned to spell connects with his mom in lucid dreams
- •They write music together through dreams
- •John Paul and Lily had a relationship that was mostly telepathic
- •Non-speakers have hobbies, dreams and relationships, and their gifts don't define them
The Hill and the Mind-Body Disconnect
Jay asks Ky to explain the hill. She describes a telepathic chat room that non-speakers across several states independently mention, then connects the mind-body disconnect to living in a mental reality, which Jay relates to meditation and consciousness.
- •Houston named the chat on the hill, and John Paul and Lily also described it
- •Ky heard hill references in Chicago, Arizona and elsewhere before believing it
- •Some non-speakers didn't know where their bodies were and needed touch or heavy boots to feel grounded
- •Jay links this to monks and C.S. Lewis's idea that you are the soul and have a body
A Converging Moment: AI, Psychedelics and Social Media
Jay compares AI's growth to the openness needed for these abilities. Ky says AI, psychedelics and UAP interest are converging, and that social media makes it harder to silence a truth.
- •Jay uses AI's intelligence as an example of normalizing the remarkable
- •Ky sees AI, psychedelics and UAP validation converging with the non-speakers' message
- •Social media makes silencing or discrediting someone harder
- •Ky calls this a significant moment for humans and consciousness
Protecting Non-Speakers: An Ethical Approach to Research
Jay asks how scientists and the public can engage without being invasive. Ky outlines a proposed foundation with centers offering free spelling, therapy and respite care, with researchers vetted and paying non-speakers to collaborate.
- •Ky is nervous about invasive testing
- •A foundation could fund centers for spelling, physical therapy and respite care
- •Interested scientists would have to learn to spell and be vetted
- •Non-speakers would be paid collaborators
- •Ky says there is a way to do it ethically
Personal Transformation and Lessons from the Tapes
Ky reflects on listener emails, how her beliefs and her children's world have changed, and the embarrassing thought Houston read. She ends with the message that kindness helps us evolve, that clearing our thoughts matters, and her ask to presume competence.
- •Listener emails show families opening up and finding community
- •Ky now believes consciousness is non-local and survives death
- •Houston laughed at an embarrassing thought of hers during a dinner
- •A non-speaker said kindness is the best way to evolve
- •Ky's biggest ask is to presume competence and become a spelling partner

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