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Jay Shetty Podcast

Tony Robbins ON: How To BRAINWASH Yourself For Success & Destroy NEGATIVE THOUGHTS! | Jay Shetty

Jay Shetty sits down with Tony Robbins to talk about what it truly means to take care of yourself and your body.

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Apr 18, 20221h 33mWatch on YouTube

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Welcome and Jay's Introduction to Tony Robbins
Jay Shetty introduces Tony Robbins and explains what the guest means to him, recalling a childhood home filled with Robbins's books and tapes. They talk about recording at Tony's home, the first time On Purpose has been taken out on location.
- •Jay grew up surrounded by Tony's books, cassettes and CDs
- •Tony is introduced as author of the bestselling Life Force
- •First On Purpose episode recorded on location at a guest's home
- •Jay and Tony spent nearly an hour talking before recording
A Brain Tumor at 31 and the Price of Certainty
Tony recounts his early fear of cancer, helping his girlfriend's mother recover, and then learning at 31 that he had a pituitary tumor. He describes seeking multiple medical opinions and what the experience taught him about certainty.
- •Early obsession with dying young led to a fear of cancer
- •His girlfriend's mother recovered after being given nine weeks to live
- •Doctors found excess growth hormone and a pituitary tumor; surgery and drug options were offered
- •The final doctor linked his extraordinary recovery ability to the growth hormone
- •Lesson: there's a price for certainty, and certainty must be found within yourself
Six Human Needs and Why We Wait for Pain to Change
Jay asks why people wait for pain before changing. Tony explains six human needs, the push-pull between them, and why most people lean on certainty and significance even though they want love. Jay then relates this to his own health turning point around age 30.
- •Six needs: certainty, uncertainty, significance, connection and love, growth, contribution
- •About 90% of people rank certainty and significance as their top two needs
- •Fear is just uncertainty and keeps people from moving until pain is enough
- •Smoking example shows how one habit can meet several needs at once
- •Jay chose to up his focus on health rather than slow down
Reversing Aging: Sirtuins, NAD and the New NMN
Tony describes recent breakthroughs in longevity science, including David Sinclair's work and the role of sirtuins and NAD. He explains why NMN matters, why many store-bought versions may contain none, and a stable form being studied by Special Forces.
- •Tony says he is 62 but biochemically 51 after applying Sinclair's approach
- •Seven sirtuin genes manage gene expression, inflammation, mitochondrial energy and DNA repair
- •NAD fuel for sirtuins drops around age 50; NMN is its precursor
- •Tony says the NMN products his team tested contained none, partly because NMN breaks down
- •A new NMN form in a Special Forces study showed endurance, strength and cognitive gains and is expected in 18 to 24 months
Do Energy Tools Change Behavior?
Jay asks how behavior change fits with taking compounds that reduce inflammation. Tony says that more energy tends to shift people's habits and that he teaches other methods too.
- •Jay worries people might take a pill and still eat inflammatory foods
- •Tony finds that higher energy changes behavior and even palate
- •He compares it to how a cleanse changes what you like
- •The aim is to stay younger physiologically, psychologically and emotionally
Tony's Energy Toolkit: Cold, Sauna, Cryo, Bones and Sleep
Tony shares the practices he uses to build and protect energy. They include cold water, saunas, cryotherapy, a short bone-strengthening workout and prioritizing sleep after meeting a sleep researcher.
- •Daily freezing water trains his brain so that when he says go, he goes
- •Sauna four days a week for 20 minutes is cited with reduced heart attack and stroke risk
- •Cryotherapy reduces his inflammation and helped his mother-in-law's osteoarthritis
- •OsteoStrong is a 10-minute workout he says builds bone density
- •Dr. Walker's daylight savings data convinced him to take sleep seriously
The Greatest Skill: Managing Your Mind and Emotions
Asked about the greatest human skill, Tony names managing your own mind and emotions, then influencing others. He cites unhappy wealthy people and placebo research, and describes doing the hardest thing first each morning.
- •Money makes you more of what you are, he says, and mastery inside matters most
- •Placebo studies, including sham knee surgery, show the power of belief
- •Cold plunges train comfort with discomfort as part of emotional fitness
- •Jim Rohn's line: discipline weighs ounces, regret weighs tons
- •Tony does the most difficult task first for momentum
Tony's Hardest Day: Thanksgiving, Three Decisions and Feeding Millions
Prompted by Jay's story of Jocko Willink, Tony recounts the Thanksgiving when he was 11 and a stranger delivered food to his family. He explains the three decisions of focus, meaning and action, and how that day led to his commitment to feeding people.
- •Jay relays Jocko Willink's answer about continuing the mission after a fellow trooper fell
- •At 11 Tony's father rejected charity from a stranger and later left the family
- •Three decisions: what to focus on, what it means, what to do
- •Tony's meaning, that strangers care, led him to feed families and aim for a billion meals
- •He says his worst day became his best day and that life happens for us, not to us
Mind and Body Together: Jay's Story and the Focus-and-Mood Link
Jay shares how his wife, a dietician, pushed him to look after his body after he focused on mind and spirit. He then asks Tony about the physical and psychological side of focus and mood.
- •Jay ignored his body while focusing on mind and spirit
- •Tony says you can't separate mind and body
- •Jay asks about the section on focus and mood
Stanford Depression Study and Patterns of Focus
Tony describes a Stanford study of his seminar and depression, and explains how values and beliefs steer focus. He walks through three focus patterns: what's missing versus what you have, what you can't control versus can, and past versus future versus present.
- •Tony cites mental health statistics and Stanford findings on standard depression treatment
- •He reports results from the Stanford study of his State with Destiny seminar with a comparison group
- •Values and beliefs control focus and meaning
- •Most people focus on what's missing, what they can't control, and the past
- •Antidepressants numb intensity without addressing the source, in his view
Persistence, Immersion and Mirroring in Live and Digital Events
Jay asks what can keep people going when they keep failing, and Tony answers with persistence and immersion. He describes measuring his audiences' biochemistry, moving his events online during COVID, and why transformation takes immersion rather than snippets.
- •Disappointment either destroys you or drives you
- •A belief is a poor substitute for an experience
- •Studies found audience hormone patterns mirrored Tony, even digitally
- •Reported 71% drop in negative emotions that held 11 months later
- •Language immersion analogy: transformation requires immersion
Friendship, Life Experience and Modern Medical Testing
Jay asks what Tony looks for in a friend, and Tony describes friends driven by contribution. He then moves to the importance of testing, covering cancer blood tests, cardiac scans, hormone checks and metals testing, with Jay sharing his vitamin D result.
- •Tony's friends are called, driven to contribute, and funny
- •Breakthrough doctors often lost someone close
- •GRAIL blood test and CCTA scan examples of early detection
- •Testosterone and mercury testing changed outcomes for people he describes
- •Jay's vitamin D reading of 10 showed he could feel fine while a test showed otherwise
Breakthrough Treatments: Stem Cells, Ultrasound and Life Force for Loved Ones
Tony explains the book is for you and someone you love, citing incisionless ultrasound treatment for Parkinson's and an upcoming osteoarthritis injection. He tells how his own injuries led him to stem cell treatment and to write Life Force, and says 100% of the book's profits go to charity.
- •The book is for you and somebody you love
- •Ultrasound treatment for Parkinson's tremor described through a woman's recovery
- •Tony's torn rotator cuff and spinal stenosis led him to placenta-derived stem cells
- •He says we are code and CRISPR is only the beginning
- •All profits go to Feeding America and disease research
Final Five: Advice, Fame, Love and the Fourth Turning
Jay moves into the Final Five questions. Tony discusses best and worst advice (Jim Rohn, never giving up, getting second opinions), fame, love as his one law, and cycles of history from The Fourth Turning with the message that winter does not last forever.
- •Jim Rohn taught him to add value to others and work on himself
- •Mayo Clinic study: second opinions matched the first only 12% of the time
- •Tony values the emotional home over fame
- •His one law would be love, which he calls the cure for selfishness
- •Seasons of life and history suggest using winter to get strong

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