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Stop Absorbing Other People’s Chaos

How do you stay compassionate without getting pulled into someone else’s chaos? In this call-in episode, I answer questions about setting boundaries with people who create constant turmoil, dealing with difficult relationship dynamics, and protecting your peace without becoming cold or detached. We also talk about the communication advice every teenager needs, how to work through conflict with in-laws, what to say when someone makes your pain about them, and how to handle a parent who has chosen distance. These conversations are about staying kind, clear, and grounded when relationships get complicated. I answer your questions. Leave me a voicemail to be featured on the show! https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/ask-jefferson Join me on Supercast for ad-free episodes, bonus content, and AMAs: https://jefferson.supercast.com/ Order The Next Conversation Workbook: https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/workbook Thank you to our sponsors: Gusto: Go to https://gusto.com/jefferson and get your first three months free when you run payroll. ZocDoc: Go to ⁠https://zocdoc.com/jefferson⁠ to find and instantly book a doctor you love today. BetterHelp. Click https://betterhelp.com/jeffersonfisher for a discount on your first month of therapy. Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Order my new book, The Next Conversation, today! https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/book Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show! https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/topic Join my School of Communication. https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/membership Follow me on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher Follow me on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@justaskjefferson?lang=en Follow me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffersonfisher/

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Sep 29, 202634mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

How to keep empathy without absorbing other people’s chaos

  1. Jefferson Fisher explains how highly empathetic people can avoid getting “sucked into” chaotic individuals by mentally separating from the emotional storm and responding from a grounded observer stance.
  2. He recommends affirming language (“I hear that,” “That sounds hard”) to validate feelings without slipping into problem-solving, caretaking, or taking responsibility for someone else’s emotions.
  3. For relationships involving disrespect or recurring verbal attacks, he emphasizes clear boundaries and consequences, including being willing to leave if the boundary is repeatedly violated.
  4. In family conflict—especially with in-laws—he argues that therapy can be a powerful tool because a third-party mediator can deliver hard truths that relatives cannot hear from each other.
  5. He closes with guidance for estrangement: keep the “door cracked” for reconnection while prioritizing your own life, and offer small, low-pressure bids for contact without reopening old fights.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Separate yourself from other people’s “storm” before you respond.

When you mentally step back (“observe the storm from afar”), you can stay compassionate without letting their emotional state become yours. This prevents the quicksand effect where their crisis becomes your nervous system’s crisis.

Affirm feelings—don’t automatically become the solution.

Phrases like “That must be hard,” “I hear you,” and “Of course you’d feel that way” acknowledge emotion without taking on the job of fixing it. This reduces enmeshment and stops you from becoming their default rescuer.

Empathy isn’t emotional labor you owe others.

A key boundary is internal: you’re not responsible to “resolve their feelings” or absorb them to prove empathy. You can love someone and still refuse the caretaker role that keeps chaos circulating.

For repeated communication attacks, boundaries require consequences.

If communication becomes disrespectful or verbally abusive, the boundary must be explicit (“I don’t allow people to talk to me like that”) and paired with a real consequence. If the behavior continues, leaving may be the healthiest enforcement of your boundary.

Don’t rule out counseling—third-party structure can unlock stalemates.

In the in-law conflict, Fisher challenges the caller’s assumption that therapy won’t work; refusing it pre-judges the outcome. A neutral third party can say what family members can’t without detonating the relationship.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

So you have to distinguish, separate yourself from what's happening to them versus where you stand, where you are. So do not make that part of, part of you.

— Jefferson Fisher

It is not your responsibility to resolve their feelings.

— Jefferson Fisher

You will never regret saying the kind thing.

— Jefferson Fisher

I've always been the type that has had the mentality of, "I'm not gonna go in the other room, but I'll keep the door cracked."

— Jefferson Fisher

So sometimes if you can't be a bridge, be a lighthouse.

— Jefferson Fisher

Emotional separation from “the storm”Affirmation vs. fixingCaretaker/people-pleasing patternsBoundaries and consequences in relationshipsCovert narcissism and communication limitsFamily therapy and third-party mediationEstrangement, “door cracked,” and low-pressure outreach

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