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Joe Rogan Experience #1061 - Tom Papa

Tom Papa is a comedian, actor, writer and television/radio host. His latest special “Human Mule” is available on HULU now, and you can also listen to his podcast “Come To Papa” available on iTunes & Stitcher. http://tompapa.com/

Joe RoganhostTom Papaguest
Jan 9, 20183h 5mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

From Yeezys to Elon: Comedy, culture, and modern bullshit decoded

  1. Joe Rogan and comedian Tom Papa have a long, free‑flowing conversation that bounces from trivial personal bits to surprisingly deep analysis of culture, self‑help, technology, and creativity. They start with light banter about gifts, odd instruments, and fashion, then move into movies, dystopian futures, and how fast tech is reshaping society. A big middle chunk dissects The Secret, motivational gurus, religion-for-profit, and the difference between real discipline and hollow positive-thinking slogans. They also dig into stand-up craft, writing discipline, health habits (saunas, fasting, sugar, inflammation), and how modern fame and social media distort behavior and values.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Positive thinking only works when paired with relentless action and discipline.

Rogan and Papa argue The Secret oversimplifies success by fetishizing belief and vision boards while ignoring the grind—reps, skill-building, failure, and luck—that actually produce results.

Motivational content is valuable only if it comes from people who actually do hard things.

They distinguish between hustlers like Gary Vee or Kevin Hart, who have tangible work and careers, and “inspirational” personalities whose only product is advice and social media clips.

Writing and creativity require showing up daily, not waiting for inspiration.

Citing Steven Pressfield and Stephen King, they frame writing like opening a shop: most days are quiet, but breakthroughs only happen because you sit down and work regardless of how you feel.

Inflammation is a hidden driver of disease, and lifestyle choices heavily influence it.

They connect sugar, processed foods, alcohol, gut health, and NSAIDs (like ibuprofen) to chronic inflammation, and discuss how diet and tools like saunas can dramatically impact pain and long‑term health.

Technology and energy innovation are advancing faster than politics will allow.

The Tesla/Puerto Rico story and “Tesla neighborhoods” show how technical solutions to energy are already feasible, but entrenched political and economic interests slow their full deployment.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

“Positive thinking is like saying, ‘I’m going to be a bodybuilder because I drink water.’”

Joe Rogan

“The people that get things done, do things. They actually do it.”

Joe Rogan (paraphrasing Steven Pressfield’s view)

“They boiled it down to the easiest one, which is dreaming.”

Tom Papa, on The Secret

“You have to open the shop every day. Some days nothing happens, but the busy days don’t exist if you don’t open the shop.”

Joe Rogan (retelling an Israeli writer’s analogy about writing)

“Sugar’s the fucking devil, man.”

Joe Rogan, quoting Dean Delray’s post‑diet mantra

Fashion, gifts, and odd instruments (Yeezys, accordions, pan flutes)Movies, dystopias, and failed epics (Waterworld, The Postman, Blade Runner)Self-help culture, The Secret, motivational gurus, and religious griftersTechnology, Tesla, solar, Elon Musk, and rapid societal changeHealth, inflammation, sauna use, diet, sugar, and fastingStand-up comedy craft, writing discipline, and the evolution of comedy careersWildlife, hunting policy, and urban-animal conflicts (bears, mountain lions, cats)

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