Joe Rogan Experience #1061 - Tom Papa

1. 0:06 – 2:31

   New Year gifts: accordion antics and the Yeezy debate

   1. NANarrator0:06

      Three, two, one. Happy New Year, Tom Papa. (accordian music plays)

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Whee! Whee!

   3. TPTom Papa0:15

      (laughs)

   4. NANarrator0:16

      See how happy you get?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Thank you for the gift.

   6. TPTom Papa0:19

      You're welcome.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      I've always wanted one of these.

   8. TPTom Papa0:21

      It's amazing.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Not really.

   10. TPTom Papa0:22

       It is. It's a... (accordian music plays)

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       (laughs)

   12. TPTom Papa0:26

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       I got two things that I really don't want today.

   14. TPTom Papa0:29

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       One was herpes. No.

   16. TPTom Papa0:32

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       One was, uh, Yeezys.

   18. TPTom Papa0:34

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Don't you love them? Jamie thinks I'll love...

   20. TPTom Papa0:38

       They're accordion.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Uh, he got me the wrong pair and I said, "Take these back. These are yours. You keep 'em." And he, he came back and brought me the right size.

   22. TPTom Papa0:45

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       He insists. First he brought me the wrong size.

   24. TPTom Papa0:48

       What's wrong with them?

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       That, they're fucking preposterous. Okay.

   26. TPTom Papa0:51

       Let me see 'em.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Look at them. If you were, um, Brendan Schaub, they're the perfect thing, because they're in. This looks like something from the 90s.

   28. TPTom Papa1:03

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Like some kind of shoe from the 90s. Now, what level of outrage would there be if I started wearing these to run the mountains?

   30. TPTom Papa1:12

       What, what if they were really comfortable and you liked them?
2. 2:31 – 5:41

   Odd instruments and forgotten stars: from polka accordions to Zamfir and rock flute

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:31

      Why, why an accordion? Like what is... Are you a monkey?

   2. TPTom Papa2:34

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:35

      No, the guy has the accordion. The monkey dances.

   4. TPTom Papa2:37

      The monkey dances and I love the sound of an accordion. And I just, uh, I saw it and I just wanted to bring something to the new studio. The, you like how you have a lot of weird shit here.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:46

      Mm-hmm.

   6. TPTom Papa2:47

      And this is weird. That somebody loved this sound so much that they decided let's make an instrument out of it.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:53

      Yeah, are there like real complicated ones of those? Or like-

   8. TPTom Papa2:57

      Big.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:57

      ... do people play them in orchestras and shit?

   10. TPTom Papa3:00

       No, I don't think they ever (laughs) made it into the orchestra.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:03

       And so it's never been like a really respected piece of musical instrument?

   12. TPTom Papa3:06

       Zydeco, New Orleans, Buckwheat Zydeco, you ever hear that guy?

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:10

       Mm, sure, yeah.

   14. TPTom Papa3:11

       Yeah. That like... Polka. A lot of Polish polka.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:15

       Do you remember Zamfir, master of the pan flute?

   16. TPTom Papa3:17

       Of course.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:18

       What happened to that poor bastard?

   18. TPTom Papa3:20

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:20

       Like, he had a whole marketing team behind him. They're like, "Dude, no one's done this."

   20. TPTom Papa3:23

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:23

       "No one's done this, but we're gonna do this."

   22. TPTom Papa3:25

       (laughs) You could not-

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:25

       Master the pan flute, DVD, CDs, VHS tapes.

   24. TPTom Papa3:30

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:30

       We're gonna sell it all.

   26. TPTom Papa3:31

       There's literally no competition- (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:32

       There's nothing.

   28. TPTom Papa3:33

       ... you can do this.

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:34

       You're Zamfir. He's the Tony Hawk of the pan flute.

   30. TPTom Papa3:37

       (laughs)
3. 5:41 – 6:52

   The oboe mystery and why Waterworld somehow works… as a stunt show

   1. TPTom Papa5:41

      "Should we get a flute?" I was, uh, I was doing this show last weekend and this guy had an oboe. He was like the, the, in San Francisco, he's one of the, like the oboists in the world. And he's playing this instrument, it's very melancholy, just beautiful. But it really was occurring to me like, why, who built this? Who thought this sound was so important?... when that they decided-

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:06

      Yeah.

   3. TPTom Papa6:06

      ... we're gonna make an instrument so we can r-recreate this feeling and this sound for all those instruments in this film?

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:12

      Well, if you gave me a pen and a paper and told me to draw an oboe, I'd be fucked.

   5. TPTom Papa6:16

      Yeah, I, it was not what I thought it was. (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:19

      (laughs)

   7. TPTom Papa6:20

      I was like, "Oh, yeah."

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:21

      Um, uh, uh, before you pull up a picture of it, let me think of what it looks like. Well, I wanna th- And I'm thinking of a trombone. I'm thinking of a thing where-

   9. TPTom Papa6:28

      No.

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:28

       But it's definitely not that.

   11. TPTom Papa6:29

       I thought it was way bigger. Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan6:31

       It's a... Okay, pull it up. Let me see what the oboe is.

   13. TPTom Papa6:33

       It's straight up.

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:33

       Oh, it looks like a flute.

   15. TPTom Papa6:35

       Yeah, it's straight. It looks almost like a clarinet.

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:37

       Oh, yeah, a clarinet. That's what I'm thinking. Not a flute. Wow.

   17. TPTom Papa6:40

       That looks more clarinet-ish.

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:41

       That looks pretty badass, that-

   19. TPTom Papa6:44

       Oboe and pop.

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:46

       That's in Waterworld?

   21. TPTom Papa6:47

       (sniffs) I don't know.

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:49

       Not the movie, right?

   23. TPTom Papa6:51

       That's not a good example.

4. 6:52 – 11:40

   Kevin Costner dystopias: Waterworld vs. The Postman (and failed future predictions)

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:52

      You know what's fucked up? Waterworld's a terrible movie.

   2. TPTom Papa6:54

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:54

      Waterworld's a terrible movie, but they have a damn good themed show at Universal.

   4. TPTom Papa7:00

      In Universal.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:00

      It's very good.

   6. TPTom Papa7:01

      It's really good.

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:02

      But it's amazing. It's like, nobody watched that fucking movie.

   8. TPTom Papa7:05

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:05

      It was a gigantic flop.

   10. TPTom Papa7:07

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:07

       But still, in 2018, they put on a jammin' live show with Waterworld.

   12. TPTom Papa7:13

       Kicks ass.

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:13

       So everybody's like, "Wait, wait, wait, what the fuck is this based on?"

   14. TPTom Papa7:16

       Right. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan7:18

       This (laughs) this is some sort of dystopian world, where like, everybody is drowning, right?

   16. TPTom Papa7:23

       Yeah. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:23

       The water's risen to the top of everything. And then there's baddies and good people, and, and then there's stuntpeople that are risking their lives. There's explosions and fire and-

   18. TPTom Papa7:32

       Oil.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:33

       ... flying jet skis.

   20. TPTom Papa7:34

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:35

       I went to see it with my family.

   22. TPTom Papa7:36

       It's hot.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:36

       It's great. We got fucking drenched, by the way.

   24. TPTom Papa7:38

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:39

       If you're gonna go see this-

   26. TPTom Papa7:40

       Good seats.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:40

       ... don't go during a cold day. It doesn't matter good or bad seats, man. That, that shit goes up into the 15th, 16th rows.

   28. TPTom Papa7:46

       (laughs) And look at that.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:48

       Yeah.

   30. TPTom Papa7:48

       That is good production value.
5. 11:40 – 15:41

   Tech acceleration and Tesla’s energy vision: neighborhoods, grids, and Puerto Rico

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:40

      The thing is, whatever does happen will happen so fast, we'll wish for something like Blade Runner, where there's some sort of intermediate world where-

   2. TPTom Papa11:48

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:48

      ... the technology and the people coexist.

   4. TPTom Papa11:51

      (laughs) Right, because we're just gonna be-

   5. JRJoe Rogan11:53

      Yeah, we're just gonna be-

   6. TPTom Papa11:54

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan11:54

      ... plugged into it, like The Matrix.

   8. TPTom Papa11:56

      Yeah. It's just gonna be slow, and then (snaps fingers) all of a sudden.

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:59

      It's gonna be just... If, if you go back to 1994, which is essentially when most people started logging on to You've Got Mail, right?

   10. TPTom Papa12:07

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:08

       That's 24 years ago. Okay, that's not a long time.

   12. TPTom Papa12:11

       No.

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:11

       That's a tiny, brief little moment in human history. And in 24 years, the world's radically changed the way it gets information.

   14. TPTom Papa12:18

       Completely.

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:19

       Completely, right?

   16. TPTom Papa12:20

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:20

       Now, go 24 years from now, it's probably gonna be accelerated tenfold from that point.

   18. TPTom Papa12:27

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:27

       Like, the moment artificial intelligence happens, the moment autonomous cars start happening, the moment the Boring Company actually has tunnels going through the bottom of LA and-

   20. TPTom Papa12:37

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:37

       All of it's gonna be fucking bananas.

   22. TPTom Papa12:39

       I had a guy from, uh, Tesla-... Energy at my house yesterday.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:44

       Ooh.

   24. TPTom Papa12:44

       And, uh, they bought Solar City, so it's no longer this solar company. They're now Tesla Energy. Tesla Energy's now the car, the trucks, the batteries, the power wall, generators, and the solar. And this, this guy comes in like he's from the future.

   25. JRJoe Rogan13:01

       Whoa.

   26. TPTom Papa13:01

       He is dressed like a future (laughs) guy, in this, like, black fitted thing, these, kind of like those shoes, but in white. And he just kinda comes in. He's really sharp and, like, really clear, and just goes through the thing. And-

   27. JRJoe Rogan13:12

       He's probably on Adderall.

   28. TPTom Papa13:13

       (laughs) And their thing is that, uh, they're gonna put, uh, solar on the roofs, eh, and then you have your power wall. You're still connected to the grid because you've gotta ... y- They have to for political reasons. But their whole thing, they wanna create Tesla neighborhoods-

   29. JRJoe Rogan13:29

       Mm-hmm.

   30. TPTom Papa13:30

       ... where everybody starts feeding off of each other. They're just completely autonomous Tesla neighborhoods.
6. 15:41 – 23:21

   Oprah for president? ‘No—Elon.’ And the backlash to The Secret

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:41

      Listen, fuck Oprah. We need Elon Musk-

   2. TPTom Papa15:43

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:43

      ... to run for president.

   4. TPTom Papa15:44

      That's what, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:44

      I'm tired of people saying Oprah. The last-

   6. TPTom Papa15:46

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:46

      ... couple of days have been-

   8. TPTom Papa15:47

      It's been crazy. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:49

      ... hell for me. (laughs) I love Oprah. Don't get me wrong. I think she's a wonderful woman.

   10. TPTom Papa15:52

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       I think she's a powerful force of good-

   12. TPTom Papa15:54

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       ... and positive energy.

   14. TPTom Papa15:56

       But she ain't no Elon.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       But she also brought us Dr. Oz and The Secret.

   16. TPTom Papa16:01

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       We, we have, we have to remember what this lady has done.

   18. TPTom Papa16:05

       (laughs) She has to be held accountable.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       Sh- I forgive her, but I mean, cut the shit.

   20. TPTom Papa16:10

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       The Secret is a particularly egregious offense.

   22. TPTom Papa16:13

       Eh, well, you don't, you just k-

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:15

       Oh, you don't believe?

   24. TPTom Papa16:16

       You don't, don't believe?

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       You don't believe? Believe? Believe?

   26. TPTom Papa16:19

       Uh, I want to be rich.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:22

       I just-

   28. TPTom Papa16:22

       I am rich.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       I imagine myself flying.

   30. TPTom Papa16:26

       (laughs)
7. 23:21 – 34:57

   Spiritual grifters, internet gurus, and how to spot ‘horse shit’ motivation

   1. JRJoe Rogan23:21

      It is a lot like that. Yeah. There was (laughs) one of, uh, Trump's spiritual advisors was, uh, he's got some spiritual advisor, some woman who was, uh, telling people to send her money. There was a-

   2. TPTom Papa23:34

      Ugh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan23:35

      ... a se- send her money for January. There was some so- some whole article about it. But it's basically essentially the same thing. It's like the idea is that ... What is she saying? Donald Trump's spiritual advisor Paula White suggests people send her their January salary or face consequences from God.

   4. TPTom Papa23:51

      (laughs) No.

   5. JRJoe Rogan23:53

      Yes.

   6. TPTom Papa23:53

      Is that true? (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan23:55

      (laughs) She's attractive too.

   8. TPTom Papa23:56

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan23:56

      It's interesting.

   10. TPTom Papa23:57

       Is that true?

   11. JRJoe Rogan23:58

       Yeah. Look at her. Bam. "I'll give you money." "What I gotta do?"

   12. TPTom Papa24:00

       All right. I'll do it.

   13. JRJoe Rogan24:01

       "What I gotta do, Paula?"

   14. TPTom Papa24:02

       What do ... How much do you need?

   15. JRJoe Rogan24:04

       I don't know if that's a good picture. Maybe she just looks good when she's screaming.

   16. TPTom Papa24:07

       Yeah, she looks good.

   17. JRJoe Rogan24:08

       (clears throat) But, um ...

   18. TPTom Papa24:09

       That's ... Yeah, I would love-

   19. JRJoe Rogan24:10

       It's-

   20. TPTom Papa24:10

       ... for some really ... I would love for the day where there's some real powerful, spiritual, uh, individual who doesn't ask for money. Who la- (laughs) who doesn't-

   21. JRJoe Rogan24:21

       Well, that's not even a, a real power- powerful or spiritual individual. It's a huckster.

   22. TPTom Papa24:25

       I know. That's what I mean. Like, it would be so great if some ... Like, so you listen to some people like I watched ... I was doing some gig, and there was this Black preacher, and he was out on stage and he's talking a- and it was like he's f-... but really entertaining.

   23. JRJoe Rogan24:38

       Yeah.

   24. TPTom Papa24:38

       And he's, and he had a couple nice things that he was saying. And then, "Please send me your money," and then it was just like, imagine if there, a guy showed up.

   25. JRJoe Rogan24:45

       Well, there is.

   26. TPTom Papa24:46

       Who?

   27. JRJoe Rogan24:46

       There's plenty of those people on Instagram.

   28. TPTom Papa24:48

       Who don't ask for dough?

   29. JRJoe Rogan24:49

       Yeah, they're not, they're just trying to give you ... Okay, like Gary V., for instance. Gary V's whole thing is about hustling. Gary V. is like the anti-Secret.

   30. TPTom Papa24:58

       Ah.
8. 34:57 – 37:31

   Coaching, competition, and raising tough kids: boxing trainers and Tom’s 12-year-old

   1. TPTom Papa34:57

      I got my 12-year-old a, uh, a heavy bag for-

   2. JRJoe Rogan35:00

      Oh, yeah?

   3. TPTom Papa35:00

      ... Christmas. Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan35:01

      You should, uh-

   5. TPTom Papa35:02

      She's wrapping her hands. She's got gloves.

   6. JRJoe Rogan35:03

      Teach ... Get someone to teach her how to do it correctly for you?

   7. TPTom Papa35:06

      Yeah, my buddy Matt's coming over to-

   8. JRJoe Rogan35:07

      Oh, okay.

   9. TPTom Papa35:07

      He's a trainer. He worked under Angelo Dundee for a while-

   10. JRJoe Rogan35:11

       Oh.

   11. TPTom Papa35:11

       ... and opened his own gym. My good buddy-

   12. JRJoe Rogan35:12

       Okay.

   13. TPTom Papa35:12

       ... Matt Bamonte.

   14. JRJoe Rogan35:14

       Cool.

   15. TPTom Papa35:14

       And he's gonna come, uh, teach her on Thursday.

   16. JRJoe Rogan35:16

       That's good.

   17. TPTom Papa35:17

       Yeah, it's pretty cool.

   18. JRJoe Rogan35:18

       It's a good way to get out aggression, too.

   19. TPTom Papa35:20

       That's why I got for her.

   20. JRJoe Rogan35:21

       Yeah.

   21. TPTom Papa35:21

       She would just get angry. She'd be doing schoolwork and be like-

   22. JRJoe Rogan35:24

       At you?

   23. TPTom Papa35:24

       ... "This is bullshit."

   24. JRJoe Rogan35:25

       (laughs)

   25. TPTom Papa35:26

       And I'm like ... And she's like, "I wanna b- I wanna punch something."

   26. JRJoe Rogan35:28

       Whoa.

   27. TPTom Papa35:28

       She's, she started, like, punching pillows once in a while. So now I got her a bag.

   28. JRJoe Rogan35:33

       Your ... W- how much of you is Italian?

   29. TPTom Papa35:35

       Um, all of it's Italian except for my one grandfather was German.

   30. JRJoe Rogan35:40

       Angry people.
9. 37:31 – 48:22

   Bread, sushi mastery, and the ‘do one thing perfectly’ mindset

   1. JRJoe Rogan37:31

      You brought ... Oh, you have two, you have two loaves. You're an animal. (coughs) Tom Papa, you're-

   2. TPTom Papa37:36

      There you go.

   3. JRJoe Rogan37:37

      ... a God amongst men.

   4. TPTom Papa37:38

      There you go. This is for you.

   5. JRJoe Rogan37:39

      Do you, do you eat the bread?

   6. TPTom Papa37:40

      I feel bad, I've never given you the bread.

   7. JRJoe Rogan37:41

      Do you? No.

   8. TPTom Papa37:41

      I never gave Jamie the bread. I'm like, "He's probably gonna appreciate it more."

   9. JRJoe Rogan37:44

      How long will this stay good? Because Sunday's my cheat day.

   10. TPTom Papa37:47

       Sunday?

   11. JRJoe Rogan37:48

       Yeah.

   12. TPTom Papa37:48

       You'll be good. We're al-

   13. JRJoe Rogan37:49

       Or should I just like-

   14. TPTom Papa37:50

       ... Tuesday.

   15. JRJoe Rogan37:50

       ... postpone my cheat day or, or move it to today?

   16. TPTom Papa37:53

       Uh, if you keep it in paper, it, it'll ... We'll have to toast it up.

   17. JRJoe Rogan37:57

       What's the best way though, to eat it today is the best way?

   18. TPTom Papa37:59

       To eat it today or tomorrow, actually.

   19. JRJoe Rogan38:01

       Okay.

   20. TPTom Papa38:01

       Tomorrow, Thursday.

   21. JRJoe Rogan38:02

       Tomorrow's better?

   22. TPTom Papa38:03

       T- yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan38:04

       Why's it better?

   24. TPTom Papa38:04

       'Cause it just came out.

   25. JRJoe Rogan38:06

       Ooh. So, it's not good right away.

   26. TPTom Papa38:08

       It is, if, say, if you want that warmth, it is.

   27. JRJoe Rogan38:10

       Ah.

   28. TPTom Papa38:10

       But really, it's, it gets even better a day after.

   29. JRJoe Rogan38:14

       You know, that's the case with, uh, tuna. I did not know that. I always thought that, if you bought sushi-

   30. TPTom Papa38:19

       Uh-huh.
10. 48:22 – 52:12

    Discipline and ‘resistance’: writing routines, The War of Art, and showing up daily

    1. TPTom Papa48:22

       ... I don't know.

    2. JRJoe Rogan48:23

       It is, but I don't know what ... Like, do you ... Have you ever read, um, Steven Pressfield's book, The War of Art?

    3. TPTom Papa48:29

       No.

    4. JRJoe Rogan48:29

       It's excellent. It's so good that I bought stacks of it and I used to hand it out to people on the podcast.

    5. TPTom Papa48:35

       Oh, really?

    6. JRJoe Rogan48:36

       Yeah, because I think most people ... Like, when you say ... Like, if someone says ... Like: "What's the difference between guys who get things done and guys who go- don't get things done?"

    7. TPTom Papa48:44

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan48:45

       This sounds so stupid and simple, but the people that get things done, do things.

    9. TPTom Papa48:51

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan48:51

        They actually do it. They sit down and do it.

    11. TPTom Papa48:53

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan48:53

        And there's something about the people that don't get things done that stops them from doing that. Like, what is it? And Pressfield calls it resistance.

    13. TPTom Papa49:01

        Uh-huh.

    14. JRJoe Rogan49:02

        And, eh, what he says is that you have to, you have to overcome resistance because that's what professionals do. You sit down because you, you have affirmed that you are a pro. And you sit down and you go over what you are going to do. This is what I do.

    15. TPTom Papa49:18

        Right.

    16. JRJoe Rogan49:18

        I am a professional. I write.

    17. TPTom Papa49:20

        Right.

    18. JRJoe Rogan49:20

        And I'm gonna sit down and I'm going to write and I'm going to summon the muse. And the me- and he ... Whether the muse is a real thing or not-

    19. TPTom Papa49:27

        Mm-hmm.

    20. JRJoe Rogan49:27

        ... he treats it as it's, as it's a real thing.

    21. TPTom Papa49:29

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan49:29

        And the concept is that you are gonna summon this thing that you call upon to endow you with creativity. And that-

    23. TPTom Papa49:36

        By doing the work.

    24. JRJoe Rogan49:37

        By doing the work.

    25. TPTom Papa49:38

        Right. Yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan49:38

        Yeah. And that-

    27. TPTom Papa49:39

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan49:39

        That overcoming this resistance is the war of art. And, um ...

    29. TPTom Papa49:43

        Yeah. That's-

    30. JRJoe Rogan49:44

        You know.
11. 52:12 – 58:34

    Nature is metal: fire-starting birds, dinosaur-faced chickens, and backyard eggs

    1. JRJoe Rogan52:12

       Speaking of sparks, did you hear about this fucking bird that they found that starts fires?

    2. TPTom Papa52:19

       No.

    3. JRJoe Rogan52:19

       They found a hawk that picks up-

    4. TPTom Papa52:22

       (laughs)

    5. JRJoe Rogan52:22

       ... burning embers and sticks that are on fire, and s- flies them across rivers and creeks to start the fires on the other side so that it could force, uh, game animals to run away.

    6. TPTom Papa52:35

       Wow. Brilliant.

    7. JRJoe Rogan52:36

       Look at this, birds of prey are starting fires deliberately.

    8. TPTom Papa52:40

       (laughs) Oh, man.

    9. JRJoe Rogan52:41

       Kites, kites and falcon ... I didn't know kite was a bird. Kites and falcons are intentionally dropping smoldering twigs to smoke out mice and insects in Australia. Jesus Christ.

    10. TPTom Papa52:52

        Geez Louise.

    11. JRJoe Rogan52:53

        Researchers have compiled a study of reports of wild birds spreading fires. They believe the birds carry these burning twigs to unburnt parts of the bush and the birds drop them in a bid to smoke out prey, blah, blah, blah.

    12. TPTom Papa53:06

        They also smoke, uh, three packs a day.

    13. JRJoe Rogan53:09

        What does it say? The researchers said-

    14. TPTom Papa53:10

        (laughs)

    15. JRJoe Rogan53:10

        ... birds could be-

    16. TPTom Papa53:11

        Fucking joke.

    17. JRJoe Rogan53:11

        ... the third force capable of starting bush fires. That's incredible. There's-

    18. TPTom Papa53:17

        It's clever.

    19. JRJoe Rogan53:18

        Yeah, they're so ... They're so irresponsible, these fucks.

    20. TPTom Papa53:21

        (laughs)

    21. JRJoe Rogan53:21

        They don't give a shit about fires.

    22. TPTom Papa53:23

        They don't care.

    23. JRJoe Rogan53:23

        They fly away. They're like, "Well, I'll fly where the fire isn't."

    24. TPTom Papa53:25

        I got a mouse.

    25. JRJoe Rogan53:26

        Stupid. Eh, I don't give a fuck. (laughs)

    26. TPTom Papa53:27

        Some- (laughs) The whole neighborhood's burnt down, but he got a mouse snack. (laughs)

    27. JRJoe Rogan53:32

        (laughs) Yeah, they're such assholes.

    28. TPTom Papa53:35

        Geez. What douche bags.

    29. JRJoe Rogan53:37

        Did you see that, um, chicken that, uh, the researchers created that accidentally somehow or another through when they, they put it together, um, had the face of a dinosaur? Have you seen this?

    30. TPTom Papa53:48

        No.
12. 58:34 – 1:10:11

    Sober January, Instagram as a personality test, and dog life: trails, snakes, and demon breeds

    1. TPTom Papa58:34

       But I'm not drinking for January. (laughs)

    2. JRJoe Rogan58:35

       You taking the whole month off?

    3. TPTom Papa58:36

       Yeah.

    4. JRJoe Rogan58:37

       Really? Sober January-

    5. TPTom Papa58:38

       My friend was-

    6. JRJoe Rogan58:39

       ... for Tom Papa.

    7. TPTom Papa58:39

       My friend was like, "I'm just gonna," uh, "I'm not ..." I s- ... We went out on the second and he's like, "No, I'm not, I'm not drinking for the month of January."

    8. JRJoe Rogan58:47

       Wow.

    9. TPTom Papa58:47

       And I was like, "That sounds good. I'm gonna do that too," not thinking. And, uh, I've ... It's been a week and I'm like, "This is stupid." (laughs)

    10. JRJoe Rogan58:55

        (laughs)

    11. TPTom Papa58:56

        Which makes me think (laughs) maybe it's not a bad thing. (sighs) I've never taken a whole month off since I started drinking as a kid.

    12. JRJoe Rogan59:03

        You gotta do Sober October. That's the move.

    13. TPTom Papa59:05

        Sober October.

    14. JRJoe Rogan59:06

        Yeah, we all do it.

    15. TPTom Papa59:07

        Yeah?

    16. JRJoe Rogan59:07

        Yeah. I d- I don't know if everybody's gonna do it this year. I doubt we're gonna get Bert to do it again. Bert was in a-

    17. TPTom Papa59:12

        Yeah, how did Bert do with that?

    18. JRJoe Rogan59:13

        ... goddamn frothy panic-

    19. TPTom Papa59:14

        Good.

    20. JRJoe Rogan59:14

        ... by the time November rolled around.

    21. TPTom Papa59:16

        (laughs) Was he-

    22. JRJoe Rogan59:17

        Holy shit, the look in his face. You know where he was, um-

    23. TPTom Papa59:20

        (sighs)

    24. JRJoe Rogan59:20

        ... he was getting his, uh, his jollies? He was going on Instagram feeds of people that were clearly losing their fucking mind. Like-

    25. TPTom Papa59:29

        Oh, just watching them suffer?

    26. JRJoe Rogan59:31

        ... he would, he would send ... He would, no, he would send them to me, like comedians that are out of their fucking minds.

    27. TPTom Papa59:35

        (laughs)

    28. JRJoe Rogan59:35

        He'd send me like, uh, "Che- just, just check out her Instagram story." I'm like, "You son of a bitch."

    29. TPTom Papa59:40

        (laughs)

    30. JRJoe Rogan59:40

        And I'd go there, I'm like, "Oh my God, what have you done?"

Episode duration: 3:05:21