Joe Rogan Experience #1074 - Cameron Hanes

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Usually I have it,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Usually I have it, but it goes away after a month or so. I've had it for like four months pretty solid. Ooh, and we're live. Cam Hanes, how you doing buddy?

   2. CHCameron Hanes0:10

      I'm good, how are you?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      I'm good.

   4. CHCameron Hanes0:12

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Welcome to California.

   6. CHCameron Hanes0:13

      I know. And th- this place is amazing.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      It's pretty badass, right?

   8. CHCameron Hanes0:17

      Yeah, we did the... We did the grand tour and I'm ready to lift.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Yeah. We're gonna... We're gonna shoot first.

   10. CHCameron Hanes0:23

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       I don't... Don't wanna have poor accuracy.

   12. CHCameron Hanes0:25

       No, right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       That's like... Your... Your whole motto of run, lift, shoot-

   14. CHCameron Hanes0:28

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Shouldn't it be shoot, lift, run? Or shoot, run, lift?

   16. CHCameron Hanes0:33

       I don't know.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Do you... You... You run in the mornings and then you run at night too, right?

   18. CHCameron Hanes0:38

       Yeah, mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       You have a problem.

   20. CHCameron Hanes0:39

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Yeah, that's a problem.

   22. CHCameron Hanes0:41

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       That's too much.

   24. CHCameron Hanes0:42

       Well, I... I just fall back on the moderation is for cowards.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       (laughs)

   26. CHCameron Hanes0:45

       So that like pretty much covers any psycho overdoing, in excess. I'm like just... It can be like, no, I'm just not a coward.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       And what about overtraining? Is that bullshit?

   28. CHCameron Hanes0:56

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Yeah. It's totally bullshit. But you were saying before-

   30. CHCameron Hanes0:59

       That's why-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Right. …

   1. CHCameron Hanes15:00

      wasn't, you know, right there with me. No, it was right there with me. Um, you know, they did a great job of putting that commercial together. Uh, it wasn't necessarily snarling at me or growling-

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      Right.

   3. CHCameron Hanes15:11

      ... at me. But it was there. It was, it was fun. It was amazing.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      How big was that wolf?

   5. CHCameron Hanes15:15

      I think it was about 130 pounds. I mean, it was tall. That, that's a big ... That's what surprised me is how tall they are.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:22

      Long legs, right?

   7. CHCameron Hanes15:23

      Yeah, and I think, you know, uh, we were talking about it earlier, as far as endurance goes, wolves, I believe, are the number one animal out there as far as they can run miles and miles and miles. And they're tall and they can just ... You know, their gait is, uh, you know, whatever. It allows them to go for hours and miles.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:40

      Yeah. I was talking about running with my dog, you know, and he's only a year old.

   9. CHCameron Hanes15:43

      Mm-hmm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       And he's in such good shape now 'cause he runs with me all the time.

   11. CHCameron Hanes15:48

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       See, if we run two miles, I run two miles. He runs seven or eight.

   13. CHCameron Hanes15:53

       Right. Running everywhere.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       'Cause he's running up and back and up and back and up and back and-

   15. CHCameron Hanes15:56

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       But i- it's amazing like what ... How good a shape they're in right outta-

   17. CHCameron Hanes16:01

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       ... the box.

   19. CHCameron Hanes16:01

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       I mean, he's a fucking puppy.

   21. CHCameron Hanes16:04

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       And he just books it up that hill, just ... And he turns around and looks at me like, "Come on, bitch."

   23. CHCameron Hanes16:09

       I know. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       And he comes running back to me.

   25. CHCameron Hanes16:11

       Yeah. Animals, you know, uh, animals h- pretty much have the advantage over us on everything o- other than, you know, the ... I mean, their stronger, stronger jaws. Um, you know, the mu- your- their muscles stronger for what they have. Um, we have a- endurance as a advantage over most animals.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:29

       Potential endurance.

   27. CHCameron Hanes16:30

       Like elk. But, uh, the on- luckily we have, you know, we can use our minds.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       Well, that is the reason why we're so weak.

   29. CHCameron Hanes16:37

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:37

       You know? The, it's, it's so fascinating how things balance out.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      you met him.

   2. CHCameron Hanes30:00

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      Mike (laughs) , Mike was dealing with people, uh, from Vancouver that were sending him hate mail-

   4. CHCameron Hanes30:06

      Mm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      ... because of wolves. Now, where he lives, he lives in the real British Columbia.

   6. CHCameron Hanes30:12

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:12

      Where there's fucking-

   8. CHCameron Hanes30:13

      Wild.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      ... wolves and grizzly bears everywhere.

   10. CHCameron Hanes30:15

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:16

       We, we found a, a wolf kill while we were up there. It was pretty wild. The wolf had got a hold of a moose calf and just tore it apart-

   12. CHCameron Hanes30:22

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       A, a pack of wolves.

   14. CHCameron Hanes30:23

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:23

       Hair all over the place, and you know-

   16. CHCameron Hanes30:25

       It's what they do.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:25

       It was pretty fresh too. Um, but he's shot a bunch of them.

   18. CHCameron Hanes30:29

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       And somehow or another some group of people found out that he shot wolves.

   20. CHCameron Hanes30:35

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:36

       And where he lives, you get an unlimited amount of wolf tags.

   22. CHCameron Hanes30:39

       Right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       They're trying to kill wolves as much as possible. You can kill 100 wolves a day if you can.

   24. CHCameron Hanes30:42

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       And, and that's totally legal.

   26. CHCameron Hanes30:44

       Yup.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       Because they have ranchers up there, and, like, one of ... I think one of his neighbors, they, a, a wolf ... It was in the middle of the winter, a wolf got a hold of one of the cows.

   28. CHCameron Hanes30:52

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       A bunch of wolves, a pack. So these people are in their house and they're listening to a pack of wolves tear apart-

   30. CHCameron Hanes30:57

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      are the shit, man.

   2. CHCameron Hanes45:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:01

      Did we go to one when we went to Brazil?

   4. CHCameron Hanes45:04

      Is that where they threw the plates at the wall?

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      Yes.

   6. CHCameron Hanes45:06

      Right?

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   8. CHCameron Hanes45:07

      They threw the plates.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:08

      Yeah, they fucking chuck fr- plates like Frisbees and shatter them.

   10. CHCameron Hanes45:11

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:12

       They know how to party in Brazil.

   12. CHCameron Hanes45:13

       They do. And it was just meat on meat on meat.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:15

       Meat on meat. You get, uh-

   14. CHCameron Hanes45:16

       It was beautiful.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:16

       ... a card, it's got green on one side and red on the other. A lot of people have been to these. Like, uh, Fogo de Chao is a great one that's here in LA and all over the country. But that's what they eat. They're famous for meat.

   16. CHCameron Hanes45:28

       When you're done with the meat, you give them the red card.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:30

       Yeah.

   18. CHCameron Hanes45:30

       Right?

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:31

       Yeah, you flip that card-

   20. CHCameron Hanes45:32

       And they're like, "I can't."

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:32

       ... over your leg and done.

   22. CHCameron Hanes45:32

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:33

       Screen on one side-

   24. CHCameron Hanes45:34

       I'm tapping out.

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:34

       ... red on the other. Yeah, you tap out. Yeah, we, we go to town. Nobody can fuck with Ari Shaffir when it comes to that place. Nobody.

   26. CHCameron Hanes45:40

       Really?

   27. JRJoe Rogan45:40

       No, I've never seen ... Look, when me and Ari go to eat, generally speaking, I'm more of a glutton than him. I'll eat more than him.

   28. CHCameron Hanes45:48

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       But not at that place.

   30. CHCameron Hanes45:50

       Really?
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:15

   So when you're going…

   1. CHCameron Hanes1:00:00

      ... Man, it doesn't ... It's tough. It was, it's tough all the way around.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

      So when you're going through a three-day, 238-mile run-

   3. CHCameron Hanes1:00:10

      Mm-hmm.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:11

      ... does it, it, you, it gets bad at certain times where you just feel like shit.

   5. CHCameron Hanes1:00:16

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      And then if you keep going, it gets better? And then it gets bad again?

   7. CHCameron Hanes1:00:21

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

      And then it gets better again?

   9. CHCameron Hanes1:00:22

      Oh, yeah, yeah. You're up and down, up and down the whole time.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       And, but you know that if you keep going, even when you feel like dogshit, you'll eventually break through and start feeling okay again.

   11. CHCameron Hanes1:00:33

       I don't know. There's no guarantee.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       There's no guarantee?

   13. CHCameron Hanes1:00:36

       No, there's no guaran- You hope, but-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       Have you ever gone through a whole, long race and felt like dogshit the entire time?

   15. CHCameron Hanes1:00:42

       (laughs) Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:42

       Which one of those?

   17. CHCameron Hanes1:00:43

       Uh, well, like the 24-hour run, you know, 'cause that's usually, like my first tough one of the year is in June, so I haven't really ...

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

       Prepared for it enough?

   19. CHCameron Hanes1:00:53

       No, 'cause I'm always after spring bear.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       Oh, no.

   21. CHCameron Hanes1:00:56

       And, uh, I haven't been training because I've been up in bear camp and doing whatever. So that's always one where I know I'm just pretty much gonna be miserable the whole time. There's gonna be no light at the end of the tunnel, other than when the 24 hours is up. So that one I know I'm just gonna have to grind it out, but i- and that's, that's where I'm like, (clears throat) "It's, uh, this is one day out of my life."

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

       Just do it.

   23. CHCameron Hanes1:01:21

       I'm just gonna be miserable. Um, you know, on, on Moab, that one started off and I felt terrible right out of the d- I mean, I felt, I was like, we were, God, I don't wanna think, like 19 or maybe 15 miles in, something like that, at an aid station, I'm going, "This is not good." (laughs) 'Cause-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:41

       15 miles in?

   25. CHCameron Hanes1:01:42

       Yes.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:42

       What's crazy is you were running a marathon a day.

   27. CHCameron Hanes1:01:45

       Yeah, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:46

       So why was 15 miles so bad?

   29. CHCameron Hanes1:01:49

       Um, I don't know. There's sometimes when you ... Do you ever go on a run and your legs just feel heavy?

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:54

       Yeah.

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