Joe Rogan Experience #1101 - Chris & Mark Bell

1. 0:00 – 1:00

   Chris Bell’s comeback: deadlifting with artificial hips

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (knocking) Three, two, one. (gun cocking sound) Is that a gun? That's a real gun? Gentlemen, we're live. The Bell Jostle-

   2. MBMark Bell0:09

      What's up?

   3. CBChris Bell0:09

      We are live. Yeah, thanks. What's going on?

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      It's the bell curve. How are you fuckers? What's going on?

   5. CBChris Bell0:11

      Doing great, man. It's great to be on the show again.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Great to g- have you guys here. Um, you know, I was watching your Instagram the other day, and I was looking at you with fake hips, doing crazy fucking heavy dead lifts, man. That's amazing.

   7. CBChris Bell0:23

      (clicks tongue) I am starting to dead lift a little bit more, uh, because I've been doing this carnivore diet and I feel great. And there's no reason not to, right? So, um, I just figured, uh, if I can do it and it doesn't hurt, then, uh, why not? So, uh, I- I was going up to about 400 pounds, but I think I can still... I think I can even get stronger now. So, what I'm so happy about is this is something... Squatting and dead lifting is something that was part of my life all growing up. I was a power lifter all growing up.

   8. MBMark Bell0:50

      He's the one that got me into this shit.

   9. CBChris Bell0:52

      And it- it got taken away from me, and I was really sad and disappointed. Became a drug addict and an alcoholic because of it, and now I can lift again, so I feel good.

2. 1:00 – 3:10

   Hip replacement realities: success stories, botched hardware, and recovery logistics

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00

      That is... Is that unusual for someone who's got artificial hips to be able to do something like that?

   2. CBChris Bell1:05

      Um-

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:05

      Do you know? Do you... How many people do you know that have artificial hips?

   4. CBChris Bell1:08

      Well, I do know that Ed Cone, who is the greatest power lifter of all time, he has two fake hips now, right?

   5. MBMark Bell1:13

      Yeah, I think so.

   6. CBChris Bell1:13

      And I think he still squats 600.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:15

      Jesus!

   8. MBMark Bell1:17

      Yeah, he can still lift some weight.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:18

      With fake hips?

   10. MBMark Bell1:18

       (laughs)

   11. CBChris Bell1:19

       Yeah, @eddiecone. Check him out. He's a beast.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:21

       Holy sh- Uh, fake hips squatting 600 pounds?

   13. CBChris Bell1:25

       It's insane.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       They say that is, like, one of the most effective replacement-

   15. CBChris Bell1:28

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       ... surgeries that they do, is replacing people's hips.

   17. MBMark Bell1:31

       Yeah, for him it's gonna be- it's gonna be a big deal.

   18. CBChris Bell1:32

       I think it's a great... I think it's a great surgery. Before I got it done, I mean, I couldn't even get up out of a chair. I was... I'd be stuck, you know? I would- I would stick places.

   19. MBMark Bell1:40

       (clears throat)

   20. CBChris Bell1:40

       (laughs) And, um, before I got it done, I couldn't really move at all. And then after I got it done, they had botched one side, so one side went perfect, the other side, for two years, was all screwed up and the doctors didn't know it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:53

       What was screwed up about it?

   22. CBChris Bell1:54

       Um, the- the cup. There's a cup and then there's the ball that goes into the cup.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:58

       Mm-hmm.

   24. CBChris Bell1:58

       The cup came loose-

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:00

       Oh, no.

   26. CBChris Bell2:00

       ... and- and it would- it would shift around. Now, they think the cup comes loose because when you do both hips at the same time, they hammer one hip into one side and then you're completely like a dead body almost, and they flip you over and then they-

   27. MBMark Bell2:12

       It's really violent actually.

   28. CBChris Bell2:13

       ... when they flip you over, they think that's when the hip might... That- that socket may come out. So, um, they're starting to- to question doing them both on the same day now.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:23

       Yeah, I've heard of people getting one done and then a couple months later...

   30. CBChris Bell2:26

       I would recommend getting one done because then when I got my other one... when I got the one that was messed up redone and I had one good leg and one (laughs) , you know, one leg to recover on-
3. 3:10 – 3:51

   DEXA scans, muscle biopsies, and the steroid elephant in the room

   1. CBChris Bell3:10

      We- we just got a DEXA scan done and-

   2. MBMark Bell3:12

      We got weird shit going on.

   3. CBChris Bell3:13

      We got really weird shit going on. We had a DEXA scan done and Dr. Jacob Wilson told us that our bone... Was it bone min- mineral den- density?

   4. MBMark Bell3:21

      Density, yeah.

   5. CBChris Bell3:22

      It was... Mine- mine was, like, off the charts, but his was way (laughs) off the charts.

   6. MBMark Bell3:26

      Yeah, and then, uh-

   7. CBChris Bell3:27

      He didn't, like, recognize it.

   8. MBMark Bell3:27

      ... we also got a muscle biopsy done by, uh, Dr. Andy Galpin. And he's just like, "Dude, I don't-"

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:32

      Love that guy.

   10. MBMark Bell3:33

       He's like, "I don't know what the fuck's going on with your... With my muscle," and his muscle. He's like, "But we need to talk about this more." And so it-

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:38

       It's called steroids.

   12. MBMark Bell3:39

       (laughs) Yeah, I know.

   13. CBChris Bell3:40

       Yeah.

   14. MBMark Bell3:40

       Well, exactly.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       (laughs)

   16. MBMark Bell3:41

       So he said he wanted to, uh, interview me more and- and talk to me more about like what I've taken over the years and all those different things.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:47

       Yeah, it's... It works. (laughs)

   18. MBMark Bell3:48

       Yeah, it fucking works. Fantastic.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       There's a reason why people do it. (laughs)

   20. CBChris Bell3:50

       I just think...

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:51

       It's so crazy.

4. 3:51 – 6:46

   Born strong: early lifting, family genetics, and ancestry tests

   1. CBChris Bell3:51

      I heard you talking the other day about throwing a- a roundhouse kick and you said it's just second nature to you.

   2. MBMark Bell3:55

      Yeah.

   3. CBChris Bell3:55

      And I think, for us, we've been lifting-

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:57

      Right.

   5. CBChris Bell3:57

      ... for so long-

   6. MBMark Bell3:58

      Sure.

   7. CBChris Bell3:58

      ... that a lot of this stuff... Even when I was a drug addict and alcoholic, the entire time I still trained every day. I wasn't doing as good of a job, but I still would make it to the gym every day.

   8. JRJoe Rogan4:06

      Right.

   9. CBChris Bell4:06

      It's ingrained in us.

   10. MBMark Bell4:07

       Right.

   11. CBChris Bell4:07

       It's something that we've been doing forever, so I think that-

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:09

       So your body's just designed for it. It's essentially-

   13. CBChris Bell4:12

       I don't know if it's designed for it, but-

   14. JRJoe Rogan4:12

       Well, not designed, but you've sort of designed it. You know, you-

   15. MBMark Bell4:16

       I think it's something that found us, you know?

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:18

       Really?

   17. MBMark Bell4:18

       Like we- like we did kind of stumble upon it, but I think it's something that found us. And it's, uh...... you know, I, I was strong right out of the gate. He was strong right out of the gate. I mean, and I remember, uh, my friends benching in the garage and they were benching the bar maybe a 10 on each side and I was, you know, doing a plate, doing 185, 12 years old, you know, and-

   18. CBChris Bell4:36

       He was an animal when he was young, so-

   19. MBMark Bell4:37

       There was just something there. There was some sort of strength. My mo- our mom benched, uh, what'd she bench?

   20. CBChris Bell4:41

       135.

   21. MBMark Bell4:42

       Yeah, she benched-

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:43

       Your mom can bench 135?

   23. CBChris Bell4:44

       Uh, like right off, you know, like without ever lifting. She just put her-

   24. MBMark Bell4:47

       I wanna say I think she benched 185.

   25. CBChris Bell4:49

       She might have.

   26. MBMark Bell4:50

       On the same day because she-

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:50

       That's what Joey Diaz would say, "Immigrant mentality."

   28. MBMark Bell4:53

       (laughs)

   29. CBChris Bell4:53

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:53

       Where's your mother from?
5. 6:46 – 10:18

   Neck damage and atrophy: fighters, sleep, and sleep apnea tools

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:46

      Dude, I was watching, um, uh, some clips from last night from WrestleMania and Ronda Rousey was with Kurt Angle and I was looking at Kurt Angle's body. I was like, "Wow, that guy has gone through some damage."

   2. CBChris Bell6:56

      He's a machine.

   3. MBMark Bell6:57

      Yeah, he's a goddamn beast.

   4. CBChris Bell6:58

      He's gone through damage.

   5. MBMark Bell6:59

      He's been through it all. Lots of neck surgeries.

   6. JRJoe Rogan7:01

      Well, you could see it in his arms. The neck surgeries you see in guys' arms 'cause their arms atrophy, you know.

   7. MBMark Bell7:05

      Right. Yeah, he's atrophied a lot, yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:06

      'Cause his fucking neck looks like a goddamn tree trunk.

   9. MBMark Bell7:10

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:10

       He's just got this neck that starts above his ears-

   11. MBMark Bell7:12

       Right.

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:13

       ... and then his arms are not nearly as big-

   13. MBMark Bell7:14

       I'd have to say, uh...

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:15

       ... as they used to be.

   15. MBMark Bell7:16

       They're ner- I think it's nerve damage, right?

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:17

       Exactly, yeah. I had Pat Miletich in here a couple weeks ago, you know, former UFC champion Pat.

   17. CBChris Bell7:22

       Yeah, I love Pat. Yeah, he's great.

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:22

       He's got one arm that's sh- smaller than the other one. Bas Rutten will be here tomorrow, he's got the same issue.

   19. CBChris Bell7:26

       Savage.

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:27

       It's necks, neck issues for what, you know, g- and I had a bulging disc in my neck-

   21. CBChris Bell7:32

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:32

       ... and I was getting weird, uh, numbness in my hands and then nerve pain in my elbow.

   23. CBChris Bell7:37

       In your elbow?

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:37

       The ulnar nerve, it goes on there, and when you ignore that shit and then keep training it, keep getting your fucking neck yanked on, then the disc starts to decay-

   25. CBChris Bell7:46

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:46

       ... and then the pressing against the d- the, the nerves and the-

   27. CBChris Bell7:49

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:49

       ... um, the, the, the spinal column, it gets worse. And then it starts atrophying and cutting off the, the nerves to your arms. And you get to the point where your, your shit just shrinks and it doesn't come back.

   29. MBMark Bell8:00

       A lot of that stuff happens in your sleep too. Like something gets aggravated from training, but you sleep weird, you sleep with your neck all twisted.

   30. JRJoe Rogan8:05

       Mm-hmm.
6. 10:18 – 10:55

   Why Chris tried carnivore: arthritis, keto fatigue, and mental “intervention” framing

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:18

      So, um, tell me about this carnivore diet.

   2. CBChris Bell10:21

      Sure.

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:21

      Because I had Shaun Baker in here and he talked to me about it, but-

   4. GUGuest10:24

      ... he doesn't have any science, you know? There's no, like, he doesn't have any, like, real tests or any long-term studies or anything-

   5. Yeah.

   6. ... like that. And, you know, I, I, I'm a person who believes in balance. And I, I, I think that you need phytonutrients, you need plant fiber. I think there's a lotta healthy stuff that you get-

   7. Right.

   8. ... from plants. Um, I'm a big believer in eating meat, though. But all meat, you guys doing all meat?

   9. Well-

   10. Yeah, I think there's, I think there's some-

   11. I've modified it. I believe.

   12. I think there's some holes-

   13. We could talk about it.

   14. Let's one at a time, boys.

   15. (laughs)

   16. Yeah, I think there's some, I think there's some holes in every diet. (coughs) Right.

7. 10:55 – 17:17

   Fruit, glucose, and the PURE study debate: modifying ‘all meat’

   1. GUGuest10:55

      I think when you go and you make the decision to only eat meat, then, uh, some rational thought should come into your head. Maybe when I switch all the way to just meat all the time, maybe there's a possibility I'm gonna eat too much meat. And so maybe that would make sense to bring in some fruit and bring in some vegetables just so-

   2. Right.

   3. ... you're not eating too much meat, for the simple reason, vegetables have been shown... And, and there's, you know, you can get a study to show you anything. Uh, but there's study, a study that's been done on 200,000 people that went on for 14 years, and they studied, uh, vegetables. They studied every type of vegetable, and they found that they were more neutral than they were harmful or good for you. They found that fruit was a little bit, uh, better for you. And again, you can have any study saying anything.

   4. Wait a minute, wait a minute. What is this study? What-

   5. Uh, it's called the PURE study.

   6. Wait a minute. They said that it's, that vegetables are neutral? What does that mean?

   7. They're, they're neutral. They just- They don't really help you that much. They weren't, uh, necessarily great and they weren't necessarily bad. Uh, I don't know what their-

   8. In comparison to what though?

   9. I don't know what their standard was for what they were looking for exactly, but the main thing they were looking for was, uh, it being protective in terms of your heart. That was their main, their, the main thing they were looking at.

   10. Huh.

   11. So they found out that saturated fat is protective of your heart. They found out that cholesterol is actually protective of your heart.

   12. Yeah.

   13. They found out that salt is... Now, it's all, like, you know, without... You can't take in tons and tons of salt because then something's gonna- (laughs)

   14. Well, salt'll kill you.

   15. Yeah.

   16. If you eat a pound of salt, you're dead. You know?

   17. Yeah.

   18. Salt's one of those things-

   19. Exactly.

   20. ... that's really good for you. It's an essential mineral.

   21. To a li- to a certain extent.

   22. Yeah, but if you take too much of it, you will die.

   23. So I think any of these things can be done too far. I jumped on a carnivore diet just to give it a shot and to see exactly what it was about. And I liked it.

   24. But why, why did you do that? 'Cause you talked to Shaun, Shaun Baker?

   25. Yeah, yeah.

   26. Yeah.

   27. He was, he was on your podcast.

   28. Mm-hmm.

   29. I got inspired to do it. He was already doing it, so I was like, "All right, let me try it out."

   30. And why?
8. 17:17 – 19:58

   Blood work, inflammation markers, and how testing can be misleading

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:17

      Now, are you getting your blood work done?

   2. CBChris Bell17:19

      Yes. Um, just got my blood work done, um, from last month. And it ... uh, everything improved from keto to carnivore. I didn't really have any cholesterol issues. Um, I didn't have any, uh, uh ... the, uh ... what was, what were my issues that- that were-

   3. MBMark Bell17:35

      We've had our blood work done probably four or five times in the last year or so, I would say.

   4. CBChris Bell17:40

      Yeah.

   5. MBMark Bell17:40

      And, uh, you know, not all the numbers are, are fucking great but for the most part, it's been pretty healthy. The cholesterol's been good. The triglycerides have been good. Um, this doesn't show up on your blood but-

   6. JRJoe Rogan17:50

      W- well, what's not good?

   7. MBMark Bell17:51

      Uh, just it's not in the high, not in the high range of-

   8. JRJoe Rogan17:54

      Of?

   9. MBMark Bell17:54

      ... you know, o- of what it, what it shows you on the, uh, on the sheet. And then we also have other people-

   10. JRJoe Rogan17:58

       Wait, wait, wait. For what?

   11. MBMark Bell18:00

       Uh, oh, in terms of like the triglycerides and the, the cholesterol and stuff like that? Is that what you're talking about?

   12. JRJoe Rogan18:05

       Well, like what ... you're saying what's not good. You know what I'm saying?

   13. MBMark Bell18:08

       No, I'm just saying like-

   14. JRJoe Rogan18:08

       Not in the high range, like in, in terms of what?

   15. MBMark Bell18:09

       You know, I'm saying, uh, everything's, everything's been pretty good. Like this last time, I did have my, um, uh ... I had one of my markers, uh, kind of high.

   16. CBChris Bell18:17

       Well, we both had high C-reactive protein and we don't ... we're not sure why, so that's something that we have to like look into.

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:23

       And what is C-reactive protein?

   18. CBChris Bell18:24

       It's a, it's a marker for inflammation and my C-reactive, reactive-

   19. MBMark Bell18:27

       Specifically of the heart.

   20. CBChris Bell18:29

       Yeah.

   21. MBMark Bell18:29

       It's not good.

   22. CBChris Bell18:30

       My C-reactive protein-

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:30

       You both had this-

   24. CBChris Bell18:31

       Mine was really high on keto, but then after I went keto to carnivore, it came way, way down so I don't, I don't know where it is right now and it's-

   25. MBMark Bell18:38

       Huh. Yeah, I also, uh, had a really high ... mine registered really high out of nowhere. It was totally fine with all the blood work I've had done and the last one I had done, it skyrocketed. People were saying, "Well, maybe it's because you worked out beforehand or ..." you know?

   26. JRJoe Rogan18:51

       Right. Were you consistent in when you ate, when you got your, your test done? Were you guys on a fast before your last test done?

   27. MBMark Bell18:58

       I, I trained beforehand, so I might have fucked it up.

   28. JRJoe Rogan19:00

       Oh, you fucked it up for sure.

   29. MBMark Bell19:01

       (laughs)

   30. CBChris Bell19:01

       Yeah, that's-
9. 19:58 – 24:44

   Costco steaks, ‘organic’ definitions, and grass-fed vs grain-fed tradeoffs

   1. JRJoe Rogan19:58

      Well, are you eating a lot of fatty cuts like ribeyes-

   2. CBChris Bell20:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan20:01

      ... and stuff like that?

   4. CBChris Bell20:01

      Pretty ... mostly ribeyes, yeah, I'd say mostly.

   5. JRJoe Rogan20:03

      Because that's what I, I, I like a lot of dietary fat. I like a lot of like meat fat, you know?

   6. CBChris Bell20:07

      I think there's a certain point, right? 'Cause, um, I, I don't know. Before, when I was doing a ketogenic diet, um, the fat is kind of free-flowing because, uh, you make your bulletproof coffees and you're just dumping fat-

   7. JRJoe Rogan20:18

      (laughs) Mm-hmm.

   8. CBChris Bell20:18

      ... in everything.

   9. JRJoe Rogan20:19

      That's true.

   10. MBMark Bell20:19

       In butter.

   11. CBChris Bell20:19

       You're putting butter on everything.

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:20

       Right.

   13. CBChris Bell20:21

       But when you have-

   14. MBMark Bell20:21

       You might be overdoing it, yeah.

   15. CBChris Bell20:22

       When you have a steak, what's really nice about having a steak is you're right about 65% to 75% fat already, like just, just out of, out of-

   16. JRJoe Rogan20:30

       If you're eating corn-fed.

   17. CBChris Bell20:31

       ... out of the box. Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan20:32

       You're eating corn-fed beef? Is that what you're eating?

   19. CBChris Bell20:34

       I d- I eat both.

   20. JRJoe Rogan20:35

       Mm-hmm.

   21. CBChris Bell20:36

       Um, I think that, um, the difference between the grass-fed and the, and the grain-fed, there really isn't a substantial amount of proof of how much better that is. I do know that grass-fed beef has five times the amount of omega-3.

   22. JRJoe Rogan20:47

       Yeah.

   23. CBChris Bell20:48

       So you always wanna pick grass-fed beef when you can, but a lot of people can't afford it and also, uh, the be- ... for me, the best meat is at Costco. That's the best tasting meat that you're gonna find. I- I've been everywhere. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan21:00

       True. Why, why is Costco better?

   25. CBChris Bell21:02

       It just tastes the best.

   26. MBMark Bell21:03

       I think they shop around for the best stuff.

   27. CBChris Bell21:05

       They have the best meat.

   28. JRJoe Rogan21:06

       Really?

   29. MBMark Bell21:06

       I think they do.

   30. CBChris Bell21:06

       Yeah.
10. 24:44 – 39:00

    Fighting obesity: refined carbs, cravings, and diet ideology wars

    1. MBMark Bell24:44

       I think these are some of the smaller issues. These aren't the main things that we're really trying to fight. You know, my brother and I, we just, uh, took on to do another film, and he, he and I are doing this one together on nutrition. And we're just, we're trying to find out some truths. I mean, we're trying to find out about grass-fed and organic and all these different things. Uh, but mainly, we're just trying to figure out how the fuck do we help fight obesity? How do we help fight diabetes? How do we help people, uh, gain control of their diet? And I think that's really truly what we're talking about, is control. And you look at something like a ketogenic diet, in my opinion, it's one of the few diets that can really help people with control of their diet because it can help break up the cravings. And that's really ultimately, I think, where our fight is.

    2. JRJoe Rogan25:26

       (coughs)

    3. MBMark Bell25:26

       It's against, it's against cravings of all these convenient foods that taste so fucking good-

    4. JRJoe Rogan25:31

       Well, the cravings is-

    5. MBMark Bell25:32

       ... that are in our face all the time.

    6. JRJoe Rogan25:32

       ... refined carbohydrates and sugars.

    7. MBMark Bell25:34

       Absolutely.

    8. JRJoe Rogan25:34

       Those are giant.

    9. MBMark Bell25:35

       Yeah.

    10. JRJoe Rogan25:35

        And, and when you (coughs) excuse me, when you hear about saturated fat being dangerous, it is dangerous if you take saturated fat with high levels of carbohydrates and high levels-

    11. MBMark Bell25:45

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan25:45

        ... of refined sugars.

    13. MBMark Bell25:46

        Right.

    14. JRJoe Rogan25:46

        Dr. Rhonda Patrick went over that in depth, and it's really fascinating, the reaction that your body has to the high levels of carbohydrates and the high levels of fat. So your body is either fat burning or carbohydrate burning. So when you combine the two of them together, you have a nightmare.

    15. CBChris Bell26:00

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan26:01

        You're really not supposed to do that.

    17. MBMark Bell26:02

        Recipe for disaster.

    18. JRJoe Rogan26:02

        But it's not the saturated fat that's the problem; it's the saturated fat in conjunction with the refined carbohydrates-

    19. MBMark Bell26:08

        Mm-hmm.

    20. JRJoe Rogan26:08

        ... and sugars. And one of the things that they're finding too, is one of the big arguments that vegans in particular have used for high carbohydrate diets in, in re- in relation to obesity, is look at Asian cultures. And Asian cultures you have low levels of obesity but high levels of high carbohydrates. But you know what else you have? High levels of diabetes.

    21. MBMark Bell26:28

        Diabetes.

    22. JRJoe Rogan26:28

        Diabetes.

    23. MBMark Bell26:29

        Or-

    24. JRJoe Rogan26:29

        You don't have to be fat to be- Yeah.

    25. MBMark Bell26:31

        ... a diabetic, yeah.

    26. CBChris Bell26:32

        How many people in China, 400 million people?

    27. MBMark Bell26:35

        Something like that.

    28. CBChris Bell26:35

        With diabetes?

    29. JRJoe Rogan26:36

        Well, they're, their level-

    30. MBMark Bell26:37

        Something crazy like that. You're trying to break a record.
11. 39:00 – 1:20:15

    Organ meats, wild game, and ‘rabbit starvation’: building a sustainable carnivore approach

    1. JRJoe Rogan39:00

       I use his mayonnaise because I eat a lot of wild game.

    2. GUGuest39:03

       Mm-hmm.

    3. JRJoe Rogan39:03

       And wild game doesn't have much fat at all. Like if I eat-

    4. CBChris Bell39:05

       You talked about that Chipotle mayonnaise.

    5. JRJoe Rogan39:08

       Ooh, that's the shit.

    6. GUGuest39:08

       And I started eating like crazy after you said it. (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan39:11

       I ate a ton of it this morning with a, with a steak.

    8. CBChris Bell39:13

       That's really good.

    9. JRJoe Rogan39:14

       I just, I take it, I'll slice a piece of steak, dunk it in, I'll put a, a fucking glob of mayonnaise on my plate, I'll dunk the steak in the mayo.

    10. CBChris Bell39:22

        This stuff's good.

    11. JRJoe Rogan39:22

        But it's a Chipotle lime mayo, and it's made with avocado oil, so you're getting all these healthy fats, it gives you some nice taste.

    12. CBChris Bell39:28

        It's good.

    13. JRJoe Rogan39:28

        And again, 'cause I'm eating moose and elk and deer, so very, very lean meats. If I'm not eating like a, a cow, if I'm not eating, eating beef, my meat is mostly like really lean meat.

    14. CBChris Bell39:40

        Yeah. You wouldn't be able to do a carnivore diet on those kind of meats, right? I mean, it's too, it's too lean, right?

    15. JRJoe Rogan39:45

        Yeah, I would think so.

    16. CBChris Bell39:46

        You'd have to add fat some other way.

    17. JRJoe Rogan39:47

        You ever see a rabbit starvation?

    18. CBChris Bell39:48

        Mm-hmm.

    19. JRJoe Rogan39:49

        Yeah. Rabbits are extremely lean. And you can eat only rabbit and literally starve to death.

    20. CBChris Bell39:55

        Wow.

    21. JRJoe Rogan39:55

        Yeah. People have experienced rabbit starvation.

    22. CBChris Bell39:58

        Sh-

    23. JRJoe Rogan39:58

        Sounds crazy.

    24. GUGuest39:59

        It is crazy.

    25. JRJoe Rogan40:00

        It's crazy.

    26. GUGuest40:00

        Because it's so lean?

    27. JRJoe Rogan40:01

        Yeah. Find... Google that. Google rabbit starvation, what that means.

    28. CBChris Bell40:05

        See-

    29. JRJoe Rogan40:05

        'Cause someone told me about that and I literally never looked into it o- other than what they said. But it's so lean that-

    30. CBChris Bell40:11

        Yeah.

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