The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1180 - Everlast
CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 1:19
Everlast returns: new album, touring, and getting healthier
Joe welcomes Everlast and they quickly move into what Everlast has been doing—touring Europe and releasing a new record. Everlast explains the meaning behind the long album title and shares that he’s 30 pounds lighter since his last appearance.
- •New release: "Everlast Presents Whitey Ford’s House of Pain" and recent Europe tour
- •Why the title reflects using "everything in the toolbox"
- •Eight-year gap since the last studio album and thoughts about legacy
- •Everlast’s major weight loss and renewed focus on self-care
- 1:19 – 3:56
Accountability, therapy, and family pressures (cystic fibrosis)
Everlast describes how publicly talking about his struggles helped him commit to change. He explains that therapy and coping strategies were crucial, especially as his family managed his daughter’s cystic fibrosis and the emotional toll it took.
- •Using the podcast to "put it in the universe" and create accountability
- •The role of therapy in managing anger, fear, and stress
- •Hospital scares and the mental weight of chronic illness in the family
- •Balancing touring with being present at home and supporting his wife
- 3:56 – 7:29
Training and comeback plans: cardio, clean eating, and returning to jiu-jitsu
They discuss Everlast’s practical health changes: eating cleaner, doing cardio, and planning to return to jiu-jitsu now that he’s lighter and less injury-prone. Joe shares training advice and old-school conditioning philosophies.
- •Cleaner diet and increased awareness of food quality
- •Cardio from touring and stage performance; limited weight training
- •Plans to restart jiu-jitsu; prior experience and injury issues when heavier
- •Joe’s suggestion: build strength (e.g., kettlebells) to reduce injuries
- •Old-school classes: conditioning first, then technique under fatigue
- 7:29 – 9:49
Living with a titanium heart valve: blood thinners, diet limits, and the "click"
Everlast explains the realities of having a titanium heart valve, including lifelong blood thinners and dietary restrictions (notably vitamin K). They discuss clot risk, monitoring, and the surreal experience of hearing the valve’s sound internally.
- •Blood thinner requirements and why vitamin K is restricted
- •Why green-heavy juice cleanses can be dangerous for him
- •Titanium valve longevity vs. pig valve replacement timeline
- •Risk mechanics: clots forming on metal and causing stroke
- •Everlast’s ability to hear/feel the valve as constant background noise
- 9:49 – 12:06
Future bodies and Elon Musk: flamethrowers, wealth, and tech hype
The conversation pivots to medical tech advances and sci-fi-style future possibilities, then to Elon Musk’s public antics. Joe and Everlast joke about what “trouble” means when you’re extremely wealthy and marvel at Musk’s flamethrower stunt.
- •Awe at advancing implants (discs, valves) and what’s next
- •Speculation on consciousness downloading and body replacement
- •Elon Musk as a genius "kid" who does whatever he wants
- •The Boring Company "Not A Flamethrower" and viral spectacle
- 12:06 – 20:08
Fight weekend in Vegas: walkout songs, superstition stats, and gambling freedom
They get excited about upcoming fights in Las Vegas and discuss fighters using “Jump Around” as walkout music. The conversation turns to odd fight superstitions (like Bruce Buffer fist bumps) and Joe’s view that people should be free to gamble where they want.
- •Vegas fight weekend energy and Irish fan invasions
- •Walkout songs as identity and psychology—bad choices matter
- •“Jump Around” used by multiple fighters; Dana’s influence joked about
- •Jon Anik’s obsession with statistics and gambling-adjacent thinking
- •Joe’s argument against "infantilizing" people via gambling restrictions
- 20:08 – 28:36
Whiskey talk and Sober October updates (plus a rant about ripped jeans)
Everlast and Joe discuss favorite whiskeys and Joe’s ongoing Sober October competition drama. A comedic detour explodes into Joe’s rant about designer ripped jeans, fashion trends, and modern comfort/technology in clothing.
- •Everlast’s favorite whiskey: Redbreast (20-year)
- •Sober October leaderboard and the grind of scoring workouts
- •Old Camp whiskey and celebrity-branded spirits
- •Joe’s frustration with pre-ripped jeans and performative aesthetics
- •Shift to stretch/tech fabrics and the irony of "advancement"
- 28:36 – 36:21
Kanye, Kardashians, and monetized spectacle: fame as an attention economy
They debate Kanye West’s behavior, possible mental health factors, and how celebrity culture rewards constant spectacle. The conversation expands into Instagram monetization, influencer ads, and why “fame” now looks different than it did decades ago.
- •Kanye’s spiral: grief, possible brain trauma, and trolling for attention
- •Kardashians as "performance art" and manufactured spectacle
- •Influencer marketing: disguised ads and massive follower monetization
- •Joe’s stance: he doesn’t run paid Instagram ads; trust and authenticity
- •Modern fame defined by keeping eyes on you—"fuckery" as strategy
- 36:21 – 42:55
Dark history tourism: catacombs, bone churches, Pompeii, and volcano fears
Joe and Everlast swap travel stories about eerie historical sites—Paris catacombs, the Kutná Hora bone church, ancient Italian churches, and Pompeii. They drift into natural disaster talk, especially the destructive force of lava and volcanoes.
- •Catacombs curiosity and the shock of mass human remains displays
- •Kutná Hora’s bone-decorated church as a surreal travel experience
- •Pompeii’s sudden burial and the chilling proximity of the volcano
- •Hawaii lava stories: heat, danger, and viral destruction footage
- •How ancient art depicted animals (Jonah and the "whale" mosaic)
- 42:55 – 48:59
Vatican awe to organized religion critique: power, scandal, and the Golden Rule
After marveling at the Vatican’s scale and art, they pivot to harsh criticism of the Catholic Church’s abuse scandals and institutional cover-ups. Everlast argues organized religion is a form of control, and they brainstorm a “religion” centered on the Golden Rule and accountability.
- •Architectural/artistic wonder of the Vatican vs. moral condemnation
- •Discussion of systemic abuse and alleged institutional shielding
- •Everlast on organized religion as population control and mind management
- •Idea: make the Golden Rule a guiding "universal law" for society/corporations
- •Greed and market manipulation framed as a Golden Rule violation
- 48:59 – 55:49
Politics as theater: Kavanaugh hearings and biopics rewriting history
Joe describes the Kavanaugh hearings as emblematic political “fuckery,” arguing the fight is about power and policy as much as personal allegations. They then discuss how films and TV dramatizations take creative license with history, leading into anticipation for the Dick Cheney movie “Vice.”
- •Kavanaugh hearings framed as broader conflict over rights/privacy and power
- •Parallels to Clarence Thomas/Anita Hill era media spectacles
- •Skepticism about dramatized historical dialogue in biopics
- •“Vice” trailer talk: Christian Bale as Cheney; Sam Rockwell as Bush
- •Admiration for transformative acting and underappreciated performers
- 55:49 – 1:25:33
Movies that wreck your mood, DJ Khaled catchphrases, and the value of comedy
They trade stories about emotionally brutal films and why some art lingers in an unpleasant way. From there, they riff on DJ Khaled’s sayings and shift into how comedy is consumed now versus the era of comedy albums and radio channels.
- •Everlast’s double-feature mistake: "Magnolia" + "Titus Andronicus" darkness
- •Joe’s turning point with depressing movies ("21 Grams")
- •How catchphrases get culturally “owned” (DJ Khaled)
- •Why comedy albums declined: video dominance and streaming habits
- •Respect for non-sequitur masters like Steven Wright and Mitch Hedberg
- 1:25:33 – 1:44:49
How Everlast made the new album + the streaming/label economics (masters & 360 deals)
Everlast breaks down the personal and practical creation process behind the album, including songwriting detours and re-recording tracks to fit his voice. The discussion becomes a deep dive into music business realities: owning masters, streaming payouts, how labels adapted, and why 360 deals are so controversial.
- •Album creation shaped by family life and shifting career plans
- •Writing for others vs. reclaiming songs by re-recording them his way
- •Collaboration with Evidence and blending rap/blues/rock eras into one record
- •Owning masters: why streaming works better for independent artists
- •Approx. streaming math (e.g., ~$8k per million streams to the rights-holder)
- •Labels’ evolution: Napster fallout, missed opportunities, and iTunes-era shift
- •360 deals and touring economics: advances, tour support debt, and artist leverage
- 1:44:49 – 2:16:35
Cars, speed, and the electric future: Audis, Corvettes, Teslas, and absurd horsepower
The final stretch becomes a playful car enthusiast conversation—Everlast’s vehicles, Joe’s opinions on performance, and how modern horsepower outpaces real-world speed limits. They cover famous crash clips, supercar comparisons, and why Teslas feel like “space machines.”
- •Everlast’s car history: Audi R8 love, practical family needs, new purchases
- •Modern performance arms race: horsepower, Nürburgring bragging, real-world limits
- •GM exec crashing a Corvette ZR1 as proof power is unforgiving
- •Comparisons: R8 AWD stability vs. RWD chaos; GTR electronics as “nannies”
- •Tesla acceleration and range as a paradigm shift; Roadster specs and price tags
- •Car design camouflage testing and jokes about truly bad designs
