Joe Rogan Experience #1180 - Everlast

1. 0:00 – 0:47

   Everlast returns: Vegas plans and a new “everything in the toolbox” album

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (popping sounds) Five, four, three, two... Ladies and gentlemen, l- live and available right now, Everlast, Whitey Ford, House of Pain, you.

   2. EVEverlast0:12

      Yes, sir.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      How are you, sir?

   4. EVEverlast0:14

      How are you doing, man?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Good to see you, brother. What's going on?

   6. EVEverlast0:15

      Good to see you again. Been a minute.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      It's good. You going to Vegas this weekend for the fights?

   8. EVEverlast0:18

      Yeah, man. We got a little party the night before.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Ooh-whee.

   10. EVEverlast0:20

       We're- we're doing a little show at the Brooklyn Bowl with my buddy, Evidence, and- and s- my crew, Cycle Realm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       No headphones? You don't wanna wear headphones?

   12. EVEverlast0:26

       No, I'ma put the headphones on.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       I feel like I'm alone here with the headphones on.

   14. EVEverlast0:29

       There we go.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       There we go. Now, we're-

   16. EVEverlast0:30

       Now, we're-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       ... now, we're-

   18. EVEverlast0:30

       ... now, we're on the same team.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       ... now, we're locked in.

   20. EVEverlast0:32

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Um, is this out? This is out, right?

   22. EVEverlast0:35

       Yeah. It came out about, uh, three weeks ago, may- something like that, maybe a month.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Beautiful.

   24. EVEverlast0:39

       I've been in Europe for the whole month just touring, so...

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       This is like everything. Everlast Presents Whitey Ford's House of Pain.

   26. EVEverlast0:46

       Yeah. It's- it's-

2. 0:47 – 4:49

   Family pressure, therapy, and the mindset shift behind major weight loss

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:47

      A lot going on there.

   2. EVEverlast0:47

      ... you know, it's everything in the toolbox I brought to this record, so that's kinda where the title came from. Just, you know, it's been eight years since my last real studio album, so, eh, I figured, "Hey, maybe this could be the last one." I hope not, but-

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:01

      What?

   4. EVEverlast1:01

      ... just like, uh, y- you know the- I mean, like, you know the- my story. It's like, you know, with the- the family.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:06

      Right.

   6. EVEverlast1:06

      I've- I've dedicated a lot more of my time to the family than I used t- you know-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:08

      Yeah.

   8. EVEverlast1:09

      ... um, just 'cause of some of the, you know, um, extra issues we deal with, which everything is wonderful and great now, you know. And dude, I'm 30 pounds lighter than the last time I was here, you know.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:18

      How'd you do that?

   10. EVEverlast1:19

       I- w- honestly, it started here because I'm- I- I p- I purposely came here that day. It was the first time, if you remember, and this was a while ago. I done- I've done 1,000 podcasts (laughs) since that day. But, uh, it was the first time I had come out and I started talking about anything, like, you know, that was going on in- in- in my life in a public way.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:36

       Mm-hmm.

   12. EVEverlast1:37

       And, uh, you know, I had- I- I got a lot off my chest that day, and I also planned that day to- to put myself in a position to hold myself accountable by dis- by stating I- I don't feel good about the way I look right now, and I reached out for- I- like, theoretically, for help.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:55

       Mm-hmm.

   14. EVEverlast1:55

       You know, and I got an incredible response from the podcast audience and my own fans, and I mean, I got offered from everybody everywhere how to do this, that, and the other. Um, didn't really need that 'cause within my own circle, some people stepped up. And I also did it to hold myself accountable to put it in the universe, like, "I've thrown it out there now."

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:13

       Right.

   16. EVEverlast2:13

       Like, I- I- I- I put it up there on the wall and s-

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:16

       Yep.

   18. EVEverlast2:16

       ... and- and stamped it and said, "Here's what I want outta life right now." And-

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:19

       Yeah.

   20. EVEverlast2:19

       ... you know, there's nobody stopping me but me. And sometimes, some of the things I- we used to- you- I used to get on and see you talking about, "I'm not letting this inner bitch kick my ass today." And I- and I-

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:29

       (laughs)

   22. EVEverlast2:29

       ... just started taking things like that to heart, you know. And again, after-

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:32

       So, what did you- how'd you change? What'd you do different?

   24. EVEverlast2:34

       I mean, I- l- we started talking about it last time. Therapy. You know what I mean? It's helped a lot for me because o- of this, you know, s- the- the- the added pressures our family faces with my- my y- oldest daughter having cystic fibrosis, you know, it just, for a long time, it was just learning how to live life with it. You know, and that got heavy. There was some real dark, you know, heavy moments, you know, scary moments for her in the hospital, you know. So, we ha- I mean, as a human, you know, you have this baby, and you- you're just trying to figure out how to not screw it up with a normal health situation, you know? This is-

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:06

       Right.

   26. EVEverlast3:06

       ... this added thing. So, took a long time for me to come to terms. At first, I got really angry. I got into some real, uh, you know, Lieutenant Dan, war with God kinda stuff, you know, at the top of the sailboat flip, you know, as- I was there all the way. And it got to a point where I almost, I was at- I almost got locked up for trying to fight a cop that was, you know, trying to just talk to me about something. You know, I just lost my... I w- I had no r- ... I had so much anger over so much that I wasn't dealing with, and then I found a guy that just really got me, therapist, and- and it- it began the- the- the- the ball rolling of understanding how to- how to cope with a lot of that stuff, you know.

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:46

       Mm. Wow. So, um, as far as like, first of all, you look really good.

   28. EVEverlast3:50

       Thank you, man.

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:51

       Your face- your face looks great. Your skin looks good.

   30. EVEverlast3:53

       Mm-hmm. I'm- I'm taking a lot better care of myself.
3. 4:49 – 7:29

   Rebuilding fitness: cleaner eating, returning to jiu-jitsu, and training smart

   1. EVEverlast4:49

      So, like, I get caught up by the things- all the things I wanna do, I can't do all the time, you know what I mean? But it started again. Now, I'm taking care of myself. Like, I'm actually about to start jujitsu again, you know, which I've-

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:58

      Really?

   3. EVEverlast4:59

      ... I- I- I, yeah, because I- I've forever, I was so f- kind of goddamn fat in the middle, hip escapes were like, you know, every-

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:04

      (laughs)

   5. EVEverlast5:04

      ... I was hurting my back or my neck every other time I tried to do it. I just quit-

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:07

      Right.

   7. EVEverlast5:07

      ... 'cause it was getting ... you know what I mean? I mean, I wasn't super advanced. I was probably pretty close to getting a blue belt, you know. I- I was about a year in on like four lessons a week with just the private, you know. I was with Marcus Vinicius at Beverly-

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:19

      Mm-hmm.

   9. EVEverlast5:19

      ... Beverly Hills Jujitsu for a while.

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:20

       Mm-hmm.

   11. EVEverlast5:21

       So now, I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm just looking to see what I wanna do, you know. I've talked to Eddie a few times. I'm talking to a few other guys. Kron has thrown some-

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:28

       Are you, um ...

   13. EVEverlast5:28

       ... advice my way.

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:29

       ... doing any exercise at all besides that?

   15. EVEverlast5:32

       Cardio.

   16. JRJoe Rogan5:33

       Oh.

   17. EVEverlast5:33

       Not much weights or anything like that, just you know, keeping it moving. I-

   18. JRJoe Rogan5:36

       Good to do-

   19. EVEverlast5:36

       ... two hours- two hours on stage a night. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:38

       Right.

   21. EVEverlast5:39

       You know?

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:39

       It's good to do something first, uh, I feel. Like, uh, I always tell people, like, jujitsu is so grueling that I- I think of why. I mean, you could just jump in, and you will get in shape through jujitsu, but a good thing to do is like find a place that teaches you kettlebells and take some kettlebell classes and just- just get your-

   23. EVEverlast5:58

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:58

       ... body strong enough-... that it can do-

   25. EVEverlast6:01

       Well-

   26. JRJoe Rogan6:01

       ... that without getting hurt.

   27. EVEverlast6:01

       ... I remember one of the things Marcus used to do, Ro- Marcus used to run me around a gym for 30 minutes-

   28. JRJoe Rogan6:06

       Mm-hmm.

   29. EVEverlast6:06

       ... before we could even start a lesson. Li- like, I literally had to puke for the first, like, month.

   30. JRJoe Rogan6:10

       Yeah. That's that old school way. A lot of those-
4. 7:29 – 10:50

   Living with a titanium heart valve: blood thinners, diet restrictions, and medical tech

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:29

      ... weight. Yeah. Um, are you taking vitamins or supplements or anything along those lines?

   2. EVEverlast7:34

      Uh, like, a daily. Um, but I g-

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:36

      Mm-hmm.

   4. EVEverlast7:36

      ... you know, I have restrictions 'cause I take blood thinners and stuff 'cause of this-

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:39

      Right.

   6. EVEverlast7:39

      ... titanium heart valve I have.

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:40

      Right.

   8. EVEverlast7:40

      So, like, I have to have a vitamin that's d- devoid of, uh, vitamin K-

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:44

      Oh.

   10. EVEverlast7:44

       ... 'cause that's what makes your blood clot. So I, like... A lot of things, like a lot of the juicing things and, like, things like that, when you wanna go on a juice cleanse, I can't do it 'cause it's, like... A lot of it's kale-based and, like, kale is heavy green with a... It's high in vitamin K. It'll totally-

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:58

       Oh.

   12. EVEverlast7:58

       ... like, screw up my blood chemistry with... You know, 'cause I'm going the other direction with blood thinners.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:03

       Damn.

   14. EVEverlast8:03

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:03

       Jesus Christ.

   16. EVEverlast8:04

       I have to. Otherwise, like, a clot could hit, like, stick to that-

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:07

       Ooh.

   18. EVEverlast8:07

       ... titanium valve, break off, and wind up in my brain, you know what I mean?

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:10

       Jesus.

   20. EVEverlast8:10

       And then I'm stroked out, and that's the last thing we need.

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:13

       Fuck. Yeah. I remember when you put the microphone up to your heart and you can hear the... (making clicking noises)

   22. EVEverlast8:18

       Yeah. I, I would s- I'm so, so... Like, when I'm in here, I keep feeling like it, you t- you can hear it anyways, like, all through this. I hear it 20...

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:24

       Can you hear it?

   24. EVEverlast8:24

       It's white noise to me. If I wanna hear it, I can hear it. I can take my pulse like this (snapping fingers) just by telling you.

   25. JRJoe Rogan8:28

       Wow.

   26. EVEverlast8:29

       Two, three-

   27. JRJoe Rogan8:30

       You can feel it?

   28. EVEverlast8:30

       ... four. Yeah. (laughs) I can hear it in my own skull.

   29. JRJoe Rogan8:32

       Wow.

   30. EVEverlast8:33

       Like, I can hear it in my bones. Like, I can hear it. It's in me.
5. 10:50 – 12:06

   Elon Musk, ‘Not A Flamethrower,’ and billionaire ‘trouble’

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:50

      Well, that's what Elon was saying.

   2. EVEverlast10:52

      Yo, you, your man got in troub- mad trouble.

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:54

      He didn't really.

   4. EVEverlast10:55

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:56

      It's fake.

   6. EVEverlast10:56

      That was... They've made... It just made some noise, man.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:58

      Yeah. But here's the deal, dude. When you got $25 billion, all trouble is bullshit.

   8. EVEverlast11:02

      Truth.

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:03

      It's like, good luck with your trouble. (laughs)

   10. EVEverlast11:06

       Yeah. (laughs) You're right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:06

       You're in trouble, Elon.

   12. EVEverlast11:07

       Absolutely right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:07

       Oh, yeah. He's out there with a fucking flamethrower, shooting rocket ships into the atmosphere.

   14. EVEverlast11:12

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:12

       You know?

   16. EVEverlast11:12

       That flamethrower is crazy too, man. It's-

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:14

       Does whatever he wants, man. He's basically like a little kid who's a genius.

   18. EVEverlast11:17

       Can you actually buy that? Is that, like-

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:18

       Not anymore.

   20. EVEverlast11:19

       ... for sale?

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:20

       There's one right there.

   22. EVEverlast11:21

       Oh, you're kidding.

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:21

       Right there. Yeah. Um, he sold them all out, like, in, like, two days or something, right?

   24. EVEverlast11:27

       Oh, man.

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:27

       Yeah.

   26. EVEverlast11:28

       I don't doubt it. I wouldn't-

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:29

       Near the ship.

   28. EVEverlast11:29

       ... have been on that had I been him.

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:30

       What are you gonna do with it though?

   30. EVEverlast11:32

       Have s- just fun. It's just... You have a flamethrower. (laughs)
6. 12:06 – 20:08

   Fight weekend culture: walkout songs, gambling, and why Vegas feels like ‘fuckery’

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:06

      (sighs) So, uh, you looking forward to the fights this weekend?

   2. EVEverlast12:09

      I'm, I'm, super jacked for it, man. I... you know, we got this little show before.

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:13

      Is anybody coming out to Jump Around?

   4. EVEverlast12:15

      Um, I don't know.

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:16

      They have to.

   6. EVEverlast12:17

      They, they… You know. I'm waiting for Conor to, you know...

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:21

      How does he not-

   8. EVEverlast12:22

      I don't know. You know what I mean?

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:22

      ... adopt that song? Well, he comes out to Sinéad O'Connor, right?

   10. EVEverlast12:25

       Like, he does, like, usually, like, that into, like, the Notorious, like-

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:29

       Right.

   12. EVEverlast12:29

       ... song. Like-

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:30

       Right.

   14. EVEverlast12:30

       ... the... you know the-

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:32

       Yeah.

   16. EVEverlast12:32

       ... I don't know. << The Notorious >>

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:34

       Right. Yeah.

   18. EVEverlast12:35

       Or...

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:36

       Who was coming out to Jump Around? Marcus Davis did.

   20. EVEverlast12:39

       He did. I know, uh, uh, Cavillo, that, that, the, the female fighter. Uh, she's fights-

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:46

       Cynthia Cavillo?

   22. EVEverlast12:46

       Yes. Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:47

       Yeah.

   24. EVEverlast12:47

       Cavillo. Thank you.

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:48

       Yeah.

   26. EVEverlast12:48

       I know she comes out to Jump Around.

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:50

       Right.

   28. EVEverlast12:50

       I met her at a fight. She was super cool. She was super, super, super cool.

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:53

       Quite a few people have come out to it.

   30. EVEverlast12:56

       Yeah. I think Machida came out to it once.
7. 20:08 – 36:21

   Whiskey talk, Sober October drama, and the great ripped-jeans fashion rant

   1. EVEverlast20:08

      I wanna try this whiskey, honestly, that he's got. I, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta-

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:11

      Yeah, you're a whiskey expert, right?

   3. EVEverlast20:13

      Yeah, I wanna, I wanna lay hands on it and see.

   4. JRJoe Rogan20:15

      What's a good whiskey?

   5. EVEverlast20:17

      I was, I actually was gonna bring you a bottle of this.

   6. JRJoe Rogan20:20

      Uh-huh.

   7. EVEverlast20:20

      And I will next time, but I didn't because of out of respect-

   8. JRJoe Rogan20:23

      Sober October.

   9. EVEverlast20:24

      ... for Sober October.

   10. JRJoe Rogan20:24

       Sober October may be falling apart, I'm gonna tell you right now.

   11. EVEverlast20:26

       Well-

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:26

       Ladies and gentlemen, Bert Kreischer's going on a cruise and Ari Shaffir and Tom Segura both gave him the green light to, uh, drink because, uh, this fitness challenge is falling apart. Meanwhile, Bert is strongly in last place. Yeah, all that talk about the Mickey Mantle gene, he's not even close. But what's, what's fascinating is Ari Shaffir is very close to me. He's only, he posted today before my workout, that sneaky bitch, that he was ahead of me. But that's how close he is. He's so close that before his workout, he was like 100 points ahead of me. Before my workout rather, after his. Now he's like 400 points behind me. But that's, uh, that's close. 400 points is one workout. If you're a- an asshole and you wanna get on a fucking treadmill for two hours, you can bang out 400 points. I banged out 500 today. 507 at the end of the workout.

   13. EVEverlast21:17

       You're a beast, dude.

   14. JRJoe Rogan21:18

       It's not a beast, man. It's boring.

   15. EVEverlast21:20

       Redbreast.

   16. JRJoe Rogan21:20

       I was watching, I was watching, uh, Gladiator. There's little red spikes in my workout where I hit 90 per- that's when the fights were happening. I got amped. (laughs)

   17. EVEverlast21:30

       (laughs)

   18. JVJamie Vernon21:30

       You might end up doing podcasts while you're on a, uh, elliptical at the end of the month.

   19. JRJoe Rogan21:34

       Eh, it would suck.

   20. EVEverlast21:35

       Redbreast is my favorite new whiskey.

   21. JRJoe Rogan21:38

       Redbreast?

   22. EVEverlast21:38

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan21:38

       Who makes that?

   24. EVEverlast21:39

       It's Redbreast. It's the, it's like an Irish whiskey.

   25. JRJoe Rogan21:42

       Oh.

   26. EVEverlast21:43

       Get the, I'm gonna bring you a bottle of the 20 year old. It's, it's gorgeous.

   27. JRJoe Rogan21:46

       20 years old?

   28. EVEverlast21:47

       Yeah, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan21:47

       Ooh.

   30. EVEverlast21:47

       It's beautiful.
8. 36:21 – 43:53

   From ‘fuckery’ to catacombs: Europe travel, ancient ruins, and human history up close

   1. JRJoe Rogan36:21

      They figured out a lot of shit. Have you ever been to Paris?

   2. EVEverlast36:25

      Oh, I love Paris. It's one of my favorite cities.

   3. JRJoe Rogan36:25

      Did you ever go to that place underneath it has all the skeletons?

   4. EVEverlast36:28

      No, I have not been to the Catacombs. Friends of mine have gone though.

   5. JRJoe Rogan36:31

      Yeah. I wanna go, man. I wanna go and see that.

   6. EVEverlast36:34

      Yeah. You can get tours and all kinds of shit like that.

   7. JRJoe Rogan36:36

      What was that, the people that died in the plague, is that what it is?

   8. EVEverlast36:39

      I think so.

   9. JRJoe Rogan36:40

      And they just buried them?

   10. EVEverlast36:41

       Yeah, they, you know, the, um, the church, like wh-... put 'em all in, in the catacombs.

   11. JRJoe Rogan36:47

       Do you know at one time, Paris had a wolf problem and people were getting killed by wolves?

   12. EVEverlast36:52

       In recent history?

   13. JRJoe Rogan36:53

       The 1400s.

   14. EVEverlast36:54

       Oh, okay.

   15. JRJoe Rogan36:55

       Look at that. Wow. Look at those pictures of all those skulls. Yeah, there's a crazy story about the wolves in Paris.

   16. EVEverlast36:59

       But I have been to a place that re- whenever I see pictures of this, it reminds me, there's a place in-

   17. JRJoe Rogan37:05

       Wow.

   18. EVEverlast37:05

       ... I wanna say ... What country is Prague? The Czech Republic? I think it's, it's called Kutna Hora, K-U-T-N-A H-O-R-A. It's like a church that's built-

   19. JRJoe Rogan37:15

       Oh, I've seen that.

   20. EVEverlast37:15

       ... of sk- like thousands of people's skeletons, man.

   21. JRJoe Rogan37:19

       Yeah.

   22. EVEverlast37:19

       It's crazy. Yeah. There it is, dude.

   23. JRJoe Rogan37:22

       That's it. What?

   24. EVEverlast37:22

       That place is bananas, man.

   25. JRJoe Rogan37:24

       Did you go to that too?

   26. EVEverlast37:25

       Oh, no, I've been there. I haven't been to the catacombs.

   27. JRJoe Rogan37:27

       Oh my God.

   28. EVEverlast37:27

       But I'm saying whenever I see pictures of the catacombs ... But this place is like an entire church decorated and then they have like little dens or like places-

   29. JRJoe Rogan37:34

       Ugh.

   30. EVEverlast37:34

       ... like altars. It's like thousands and thousands. Those are like vertebrate. There's spine. Oh, no. There's another one where it's like all spines-
9. 43:53 – 48:59

   Vatican awe vs. Catholic scandals: organized religion, power, and the ‘Golden Rule’ alternative

   1. JRJoe Rogan43:53

      So they can keep those kid-fuckers over there and they never have to export 'em.

   2. EVEverlast43:57

      Yeah. That's, that's...

   3. JRJoe Rogan43:59

      Yeah. Yeah. That's the darkest of the dark.

   4. EVEverlast44:04

      No argu- no argument here. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan44:05

      Nobody can, man. They, they'll try. People get mad. And look, I get it, I was a Catholic for a little bit. That's a dark, dark institution. There is no denying it. I mean, they just, they've just busted another group of priests in, in, uh, Pennsylvania. Molested more than 1,000 kids.

   6. EVEverlast44:21

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan44:22

      Moving 'em around-

   8. EVEverlast44:23

      I mean-

   9. JRJoe Rogan44:23

      ... not charging 'em.

   10. EVEverlast44:25

       Organized religion in general is the biggest mind control that's ever existed. You know? Trying to control populat- populations and... What's the best way? Um, make you believe a certain thing. You know what I mean?

   11. JRJoe Rogan44:37

       There... But there's, there's better ones. There's some that you go-

   12. EVEverlast44:40

       Oh, for sure. For sure.

   13. JRJoe Rogan44:41

       You know, like, like what have the Baptists have done? What have they done so terrible?

   14. EVEverlast44:46

       Oh, I don't know, man.

   15. JRJoe Rogan44:46

       There's no Baptist scandals-

   16. EVEverlast44:47

       True.

   17. JRJoe Rogan44:47

       ... like that? Large-scale scandals. Even the Mormons, like they've had a few, like, dudes who wanted more than one bride, they got greedy.

   18. EVEverlast44:55

       More than a few. (laughs) There's a whole, like, part of their thing that that's how they still live, but...

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:01

       (laughs) And there's some sects, sects, S-E-C-Ts, that, uh, branched off and got real, real freaky.

   20. EVEverlast45:09

       On the scale that the Catholic Church has done things, I'm... There's... it's unprecedented for sure.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       Unprecedented?

   22. EVEverlast45:14

       Completely.

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:15

       Yeah, because they, they actively shield these people from prosecution.

   24. EVEverlast45:19

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:19

       And they keep it all in house.

   26. EVEverlast45:20

       But isn't, isn't a lot... I mean, aren't people actually getting, like, like, I've heard some things like they're going after, like, cardinals and shit.

   27. JRJoe Rogan45:26

       Yes.

   28. EVEverlast45:26

       Like, like criminally. Like, like they're pressing-

   29. JRJoe Rogan45:27

       Well, that is why the Pope had to step down.

   30. EVEverlast45:29

       ... yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
10. 48:59 – 52:02

    Politics as performance: Kavanaugh hearings, media narratives, and truth vs. theater

    1. JRJoe Rogan48:59

       Yeah, but the problem is there's so many people that just... The, uh... And we're, we're seeing this with politics, right? Like, I'm, I'm fascinated by these Kavanaugh hearings. Like, I'll watch little clips of it before I just have to tune out and talk the fuck away-

    2. EVEverlast49:11

       Talking about fuckery.

    3. JRJoe Rogan49:11

       Fuckery. Talk about fuckery.

    4. EVEverlast49:13

       (laughs)

    5. JRJoe Rogan49:14

       I mean, I don't know what that dude did or what he didn't do, but I think what's happening is more than that. What's happening is, first of all, he's involved with, uh... He was a big part of the Patriot Act. He was... You know, he's involved in some, some issues that a lot of people are very concerned with, in terms of, like, how... His position and his stance on privacy and on rights and-

    6. EVEverlast49:37

       Absolutely.

    7. JRJoe Rogan49:38

       Yeah. There's, there's more to it than just, "Did you fuck with someone in high school? Did you sexually assault someone? Did you do that when you were 18? Did you... Do you remember?" Like, there's more to it than that. There's, there's like... They don't want that guy in there. And then you're seeing all the people that want to pretend that he's the best guy ever and all the people...

    8. EVEverlast49:57

       It's crazy ness, man.

    9. JRJoe Rogan49:58

       Yeah. It's fascinating. It's really fascinating. It's fascinating to watch because it's essentially like a, a less... Like, the, the Clarence Thomas hearings from, was it like the 1980s, I believe? Clarence Thomas. I feel like that was like-

    10. EVEverlast50:12

        Late '80s, early '90s.

    11. JRJoe Rogan50:14

        Yeah, somewhere around there. Clarence Thomas, that was like with Anita Hill, where he had sexually harassed her. They were working together and she came-

    12. EVEverlast50:21

        Yeah, the whole pubic hairs on the whatever, Coke or something.

    13. JRJoe Rogan50:25

        Do you know that he's now the longest running, um, member of the Supreme Court?

    14. EVEverlast50:30

        I-

    15. JRJoe Rogan50:30

        He's n- he's now been in the Supreme Court longer, I think... I read that. Check to make sure that's true.

    16. EVEverlast50:36

        Isn't Ruth Greater Gins- uh, Bader Ginsburg, hasn't she been there longer?

    17. JVJamie Vernon50:40

        She's the longest serving, 26 years as of October 4th, it will be.

    18. JRJoe Rogan50:44

        Mm-hmm.

    19. EVEverlast50:44

        Oh, wow.

    20. JRJoe Rogan50:45

        It will be. Yeah.

    21. EVEverlast50:45

        Crazy.

    22. JRJoe Rogan50:46

        Crazy. Yeah, so it didn't work. Anita Hill is out there living with the memory of pubic hairs on Coke.

    23. EVEverlast50:53

        Yeah. And a movie now, an HBO movie not too long ago.

    24. JRJoe Rogan50:57

        Oh, yeah. Did you watch it?

    25. EVEverlast50:59

        I saw it. It was, it was-

    26. JRJoe Rogan51:00

        Was it okay?

    27. EVEverlast51:00

        It was a pretty good movie. It was just... You know. We lived through it, so it's like, it's like whenever I see movies about like the OJ trial or something-

    28. JRJoe Rogan51:07

        Right.

    29. EVEverlast51:07

        ... and I'm like, "No, I saw the... We saw it live-

    30. JRJoe Rogan51:09

        Right.
11. 52:02 – 59:24

    Movies, creative license, and why some films leave you emotionally wrecked

    1. JRJoe Rogan52:02

       There's the video of... First of all, him and, um, Sam Rockwell as George Bush. He's amazing too. Sam Rockwell is one of the most underappreciated actors.

    2. EVEverlast52:14

       What's the name of this movie?

    3. JVJamie Vernon52:15

       Vice.

    4. JRJoe Rogan52:15

       Vice.

    5. EVEverlast52:15

       Vice.

    6. JRJoe Rogan52:15

       Yeah. It's amazing, dude. Sam Rockwell-

    7. EVEverlast52:19

       Wow.

    8. JRJoe Rogan52:19

       ... nails it as Geor- Here, play the trailer.

    9. JVJamie Vernon52:21

       Well, it was-

    10. JRJoe Rogan52:21

        Will they pull us?

    11. JVJamie Vernon52:22

        It's too new. Yeah, I don't-

    12. JRJoe Rogan52:23

        Yeah.

    13. JVJamie Vernon52:23

        ... know if it'll pull us-

    14. JRJoe Rogan52:24

        Son of a bitch.

    15. JVJamie Vernon52:25

        But I'll let you guys see it. Uh, let me turn it up. A large company. If you... Folks who are listening to this on YouTube, we can't play this for you. But I mean...

    16. EVEverlast52:36

        That's weird. They wouldn't want you to, like, play their trailer.

    17. JRJoe Rogan52:39

        Well, they want everybody to go to their trailer.

    18. EVEverlast52:41

        True. Oh yeah, it's streams. That shit makes-

    19. JRJoe Rogan52:43

        Yeah.

    20. EVEverlast52:43

        Then... Yeah, you're right.

    21. JRJoe Rogan52:50

        It's just so good. He just does an amazing job of the voice, the mannerisms, and so does Sam Rockwell.

    22. EVEverlast52:58

        Yeah. Well, they're... Yeah, they're both incredible actors. Sam Rockwell is a badass-

    23. JRJoe Rogan53:00

        You ever see Sam Rockwell in that movie Moon?

    24. EVEverlast53:03

        I've-

    25. JRJoe Rogan53:03

        Is it The Moon or Moon?

    26. JVJamie Vernon53:05

        I think it's just Moon.

    27. JRJoe Rogan53:05

        Moon?

    28. EVEverlast53:06

        I'm not sure.

    29. JRJoe Rogan53:07

        It's a movie where he is the only person in the movie. The entire movie is him.

    30. EVEverlast53:13

        I want to check that out.
12. 59:24 – 1:13:26

    Kanye, Kardashians, and the economics of attention: trolling, fame, and Instagram monetization

    1. EVEverlast59:24

       I mean he... You know, a lot of that stuff he was doing was looking like homeless people's clothing, you know, too. It was like derelict-

    2. JRJoe Rogan59:29

       Yeah.

    3. EVEverlast59:29

       ... right out of fucking Zoolander.

    4. JRJoe Rogan59:32

       Did you see that one video, picture that Jamie showed me? He was walking around with slides, Yeezy Slides on, but they were like four sizes too small. Like didn't make any sense. His like heels hanging off the back of them. Like what?

    5. EVEverlast59:43

       Maybe that's the way he designed them.

    6. JRJoe Rogan59:44

       Exactly.

    7. EVEverlast59:45

       I don't know.

    8. JRJoe Rogan59:45

       That's like he's probably trying to push a new thing.

    9. EVEverlast59:47

       Yeah, he's like, "Here."

    10. JRJoe Rogan59:48

        Tiny Yeezy Slides.

    11. EVEverlast59:49

        Too small for your feet.

    12. JRJoe Rogan59:51

        Too small Yeezy Slides.

    13. EVEverlast59:52

        There you go.

    14. JRJoe Rogan59:53

        Yeah, that's the new look. Like y- you know, if you're crazy, you might think things like that-

    15. EVEverlast59:58

        It's, it's, it's-

    16. JRJoe Rogan59:58

        ... like, "I'm gonna have... It's too small."

    17. EVEverlast59:59

        ... crazy to me because there's an era of his career that I look at and I'm like, "Whoa man, there's a lot of genius shit he was doing musically."

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:05

        Mm-hmm. Oh yeah.

    19. EVEverlast1:00:05

        Like a lot of records he was doing. And then I don't know what it is, but to me, I, to me now... And I don't say this really in a judgmental way, but he's a professional troll now.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

        A little bit.

    21. EVEverlast1:00:17

        He's just like... That's the most successful people in the, in the entertainment business now, if you're not an amazing actor or a super amazing-

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

        Right.

    23. EVEverlast1:00:24

        ... you know-

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

        Yeah.

    25. EVEverlast1:00:24

        ... whatever, is like just keeping people trolling. I remember-

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

        Right.

    27. EVEverlast1:00:28

        ... he, he dr- he literally dropped a song like at some point like eight months ago where that was like, "Poopity scoop, scoopity poopity boop, poopity scoopity whoop."

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

        Yeah.

    29. EVEverlast1:00:35

        You know, I swear to... And y-

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

        Yeah.

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