Joe Rogan Experience #1180 - Everlast

1. 0:00 – 1:19

   Everlast returns: new album, touring, and getting healthier

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (popping sounds) Five, four, three, two... Ladies and gentlemen, l- live and available right now, Everlast, Whitey Ford, House of Pain, you.

   2. EVEverlast0:12

      Yes, sir.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      How are you, sir?

   4. EVEverlast0:14

      How are you doing, man?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Good to see you, brother. What's going on?

   6. EVEverlast0:15

      Good to see you again. Been a minute.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      It's good. You going to Vegas this weekend for the fights?

   8. EVEverlast0:18

      Yeah, man. We got a little party the night before.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Ooh-whee.

   10. EVEverlast0:20

       We're- we're doing a little show at the Brooklyn Bowl with my buddy, Evidence, and- and s- my crew, Cycle Realm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       No headphones? You don't wanna wear headphones?

   12. EVEverlast0:26

       No, I'ma put the headphones on.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       I feel like I'm alone here with the headphones on.

   14. EVEverlast0:29

       There we go.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       There we go. Now, we're-

   16. EVEverlast0:30

       Now, we're-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       ... now, we're-

   18. EVEverlast0:30

       ... now, we're on the same team.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       ... now, we're locked in.

   20. EVEverlast0:32

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Um, is this out? This is out, right?

   22. EVEverlast0:35

       Yeah. It came out about, uh, three weeks ago, may- something like that, maybe a month.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Beautiful.

   24. EVEverlast0:39

       I've been in Europe for the whole month just touring, so...

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       This is like everything. Everlast Presents Whitey Ford's House of Pain.

   26. EVEverlast0:46

       Yeah. It's- it's-

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       A lot going on there.

   28. EVEverlast0:47

       ... you know, it's everything in the toolbox I brought to this record, so that's kinda where the title came from. Just, you know, it's been eight years since my last real studio album, so, eh, I figured, "Hey, maybe this could be the last one." I hope not, but-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       What?

   30. EVEverlast1:01

       ... just like, uh, y- you know the- I mean, like, you know the- my story. It's like, you know, with the- the family.
2. 1:19 – 3:56

   Accountability, therapy, and family pressures (cystic fibrosis)

   1. EVEverlast1:19

      I- w- honestly, it started here because I'm- I- I p- I purposely came here that day. It was the first time, if you remember, and this was a while ago. I done- I've done 1,000 podcasts (laughs) since that day. But, uh, it was the first time I had come out and I started talking about anything, like, you know, that was going on in- in- in my life in a public way.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:36

      Mm-hmm.

   3. EVEverlast1:37

      And, uh, you know, I had- I- I got a lot off my chest that day, and I also planned that day to- to put myself in a position to hold myself accountable by dis- by stating I- I don't feel good about the way I look right now, and I reached out for- I- like, theoretically, for help.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:55

      Mm-hmm.

   5. EVEverlast1:55

      You know, and I got an incredible response from the podcast audience and my own fans, and I mean, I got offered from everybody everywhere how to do this, that, and the other. Um, didn't really need that 'cause within my own circle, some people stepped up. And I also did it to hold myself accountable to put it in the universe, like, "I've thrown it out there now."

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:13

      Right.

   7. EVEverlast2:13

      Like, I- I- I- I put it up there on the wall and s-

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:16

      Yep.

   9. EVEverlast2:16

      ... and- and stamped it and said, "Here's what I want outta life right now." And-

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:19

       Yeah.

   11. EVEverlast2:19

       ... you know, there's nobody stopping me but me. And sometimes, some of the things I- we used to- you- I used to get on and see you talking about, "I'm not letting this inner bitch kick my ass today." And I- and I-

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:29

       (laughs)

   13. EVEverlast2:29

       ... just started taking things like that to heart, you know. And again, after-

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:32

       So, what did you- how'd you change? What'd you do different?

   15. EVEverlast2:34

       I mean, I- l- we started talking about it last time. Therapy. You know what I mean? It's helped a lot for me because o- of this, you know, s- the- the- the added pressures our family faces with my- my y- oldest daughter having cystic fibrosis, you know, it just, for a long time, it was just learning how to live life with it. You know, and that got heavy. There was some real dark, you know, heavy moments, you know, scary moments for her in the hospital, you know. So, we ha- I mean, as a human, you know, you have this baby, and you- you're just trying to figure out how to not screw it up with a normal health situation, you know? This is-

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:06

       Right.

   17. EVEverlast3:06

       ... this added thing. So, took a long time for me to come to terms. At first, I got really angry. I got into some real, uh, you know, Lieutenant Dan, war with God kinda stuff, you know, at the top of the sailboat flip, you know, as- I was there all the way. And it got to a point where I almost, I was at- I almost got locked up for trying to fight a cop that was, you know, trying to just talk to me about something. You know, I just lost my... I w- I had no r- ... I had so much anger over so much that I wasn't dealing with, and then I found a guy that just really got me, therapist, and- and it- it began the- the- the- the ball rolling of understanding how to- how to cope with a lot of that stuff, you know.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:46

       Mm. Wow. So, um, as far as like, first of all, you look really good.

   19. EVEverlast3:50

       Thank you, man.

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:51

       Your face- your face looks great. Your skin looks good.

   21. EVEverlast3:53

       Mm-hmm. I'm- I'm taking a lot better care of myself.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:55

       It looks like it.

   23. EVEverlast3:56

       Thank you.

3. 3:56 – 7:29

   Training and comeback plans: cardio, clean eating, and returning to jiu-jitsu

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:56

      Are you- what are you doing different as far as like how you eat, or?

   2. EVEverlast3:59

      Um, just eating cleaner. You know, just trying not to, you know, uh, to be more aware of what's in the food and what's in the meat and stuff, you know. I'm still part of the whole commercial meat system, though I- I long to- to- to get it to a situation where I'm hunting and- and doing things like that. It's just-

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:13

      We had talked about that for a while.

   4. EVEverlast4:14

      Yeah, yeah, he-

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:14

      ... you wanted to try hunting pigs at, uh, Tejon Ranch, right?

   6. EVEverlast4:17

      Well, I- I s- I asked you what would be a- the best-

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:19

      Yeah.

   8. EVEverlast4:19

      ... you know, starting point, and you were like, "You know, they got boar up there at El Tejon, and I know some guys." And- and I actually contacted them, and I, you know, I- I just, again, this life.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:28

      You're so busy, yeah.

   10. EVEverlast4:28

       It's not just this. It's this- the- the added stress of like-

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:31

       Mm-hmm.

   12. EVEverlast4:31

       ... you know, I have a wife that when I go on the road, she's the sole handler of these problems, you know what I mean?

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:37

       Right, right.

   14. EVEverlast4:37

       And- and so that- these things, you know, pile on you, guilt and this, you know, stress and all this, you know.

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:42

       Yeah.

   16. EVEverlast4:42

       And, um, so yeah, it's just between that and when I'm home, I just invest myself. I wanna be home. I wanna do as much as I can to lift that weight.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:49

       Right.

   18. EVEverlast4:49

       So, like, I get caught up by the things- all the things I wanna do, I can't do all the time, you know what I mean? But it started again. Now, I'm taking care of myself. Like, I'm actually about to start jujitsu again, you know, which I've-

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:58

       Really?

   20. EVEverlast4:59

       ... I- I- I, yeah, because I- I've forever, I was so f- kind of goddamn fat in the middle, hip escapes were like, you know, every-

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:04

       (laughs)

   22. EVEverlast5:04

       ... I was hurting my back or my neck every other time I tried to do it. I just quit-

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:07

       Right.

   24. EVEverlast5:07

       ... 'cause it was getting ... you know what I mean? I mean, I wasn't super advanced. I was probably pretty close to getting a blue belt, you know. I- I was about a year in on like four lessons a week with just the private, you know. I was with Marcus Vinicius at Beverly-

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:19

       Mm-hmm.

   26. EVEverlast5:19

       ... Beverly Hills Jujitsu for a while.

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:20

       Mm-hmm.

   28. EVEverlast5:21

       So now, I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm just looking to see what I wanna do, you know. I've talked to Eddie a few times. I'm talking to a few other guys. Kron has thrown some-

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:28

       Are you, um ...

   30. EVEverlast5:28

       ... advice my way.
4. 7:29 – 9:49

   Living with a titanium heart valve: blood thinners, diet limits, and the "click"

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:29

      ... weight. Yeah. Um, are you taking vitamins or supplements or anything along those lines?

   2. EVEverlast7:34

      Uh, like, a daily. Um, but I g-

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:36

      Mm-hmm.

   4. EVEverlast7:36

      ... you know, I have restrictions 'cause I take blood thinners and stuff 'cause of this-

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:39

      Right.

   6. EVEverlast7:39

      ... titanium heart valve I have.

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:40

      Right.

   8. EVEverlast7:40

      So, like, I have to have a vitamin that's d- devoid of, uh, vitamin K-

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:44

      Oh.

   10. EVEverlast7:44

       ... 'cause that's what makes your blood clot. So I, like... A lot of things, like a lot of the juicing things and, like, things like that, when you wanna go on a juice cleanse, I can't do it 'cause it's, like... A lot of it's kale-based and, like, kale is heavy green with a... It's high in vitamin K. It'll totally-

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:58

       Oh.

   12. EVEverlast7:58

       ... like, screw up my blood chemistry with... You know, 'cause I'm going the other direction with blood thinners.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:03

       Damn.

   14. EVEverlast8:03

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:03

       Jesus Christ.

   16. EVEverlast8:04

       I have to. Otherwise, like, a clot could hit, like, stick to that-

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:07

       Ooh.

   18. EVEverlast8:07

       ... titanium valve, break off, and wind up in my brain, you know what I mean?

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:10

       Jesus.

   20. EVEverlast8:10

       And then I'm stroked out, and that's the last thing we need.

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:13

       Fuck. Yeah. I remember when you put the microphone up to your heart and you can hear the... (making clicking noises)

   22. EVEverlast8:18

       Yeah. I, I would s- I'm so, so... Like, when I'm in here, I keep feeling like it, you t- you can hear it anyways, like, all through this. I hear it 20...

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:24

       Can you hear it?

   24. EVEverlast8:24

       It's white noise to me. If I wanna hear it, I can hear it. I can take my pulse like this (snapping fingers) just by telling you.

   25. JRJoe Rogan8:28

       Wow.

   26. EVEverlast8:29

       Two, three-

   27. JRJoe Rogan8:30

       You can feel it?

   28. EVEverlast8:30

       ... four. Yeah. (laughs) I can hear it in my own skull.

   29. JRJoe Rogan8:32

       Wow.

   30. EVEverlast8:33

       Like, I can hear it in my bones. Like, I can hear it. It's in me.
5. 9:49 – 12:06

   Future bodies and Elon Musk: flamethrowers, wealth, and tech hype

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:49

      (exhales) Powerful medical te- technology. Eddie Bravo's got a titanium disc in his back now.

   2. EVEverlast9:55

      Yeah. He just had a surgery. That's right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:56

      Yeah. His back moves around great. It... Like, he was fully compressed where there was, like, nothing left. It was basically bone on bone. He was in pain all the time, and they just opened him up and put a fake valve in there.

   4. EVEverlast10:07

      That's crazy, man.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:08

      Or a fake, uh, disc, rather, in there. But it, it's articulating, so it, like, moves around like a regular disc.

   6. EVEverlast10:14

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:14

      Like, he's, his... It doesn't... It's not like he's fused, even if you're seeing people that are all fused.

   8. EVEverlast10:18

      Yeah, yeah. They get the fuse... I have a friend that got that done.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:20

      Yeah. They're super stiff.

   10. EVEverlast10:21

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:22

       Like, wherever it is, it's basically locked down. There's no movement to it anymore. But Eddie's is, is actually... It moves like a real disc.

   12. EVEverlast10:29

       Yeah. That shit that's gonna be coming down the pipeline-

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:31

       Woo.

   14. EVEverlast10:31

       ... is gonna be crazy.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:33

       Crazy.

   16. EVEverlast10:33

       Man.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:33

       Yeah. I mean, I know people with fake everything. I know people with fake hips and fake knees and fake butts.

   18. EVEverlast10:38

       Fake heart valves.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:39

       Fake heart valves. Yeah. Yeah. It's a- m- amazing. I mean, at a certain point in time, they're just gonna replace your whole body and take your brain out-

   20. EVEverlast10:47

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:47

       ... and put it in someone's new body.

   22. EVEverlast10:47

       Or you're just gonna be able to download your consciousness, you know? (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:50

       Well, that's what Elon was saying.

   24. EVEverlast10:52

       Yo, you, your man got in troub- mad trouble.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:54

       He didn't really.

   26. EVEverlast10:55

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:56

       It's fake.

   28. EVEverlast10:56

       That was... They've made... It just made some noise, man.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:58

       Yeah. But here's the deal, dude. When you got $25 billion, all trouble is bullshit.

   30. EVEverlast11:02

       Truth.
6. 12:06 – 20:08

   Fight weekend in Vegas: walkout songs, superstition stats, and gambling freedom

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:06

      (sighs) So, uh, you looking forward to the fights this weekend?

   2. EVEverlast12:09

      I'm, I'm, super jacked for it, man. I... you know, we got this little show before.

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:13

      Is anybody coming out to Jump Around?

   4. EVEverlast12:15

      Um, I don't know.

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:16

      They have to.

   6. EVEverlast12:17

      They, they… You know. I'm waiting for Conor to, you know...

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:21

      How does he not-

   8. EVEverlast12:22

      I don't know. You know what I mean?

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:22

      ... adopt that song? Well, he comes out to Sinéad O'Connor, right?

   10. EVEverlast12:25

       Like, he does, like, usually, like, that into, like, the Notorious, like-

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:29

       Right.

   12. EVEverlast12:29

       ... song. Like-

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:30

       Right.

   14. EVEverlast12:30

       ... the... you know the-

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:32

       Yeah.

   16. EVEverlast12:32

       ... I don't know. << The Notorious >>

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:34

       Right. Yeah.

   18. EVEverlast12:35

       Or...

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:36

       Who was coming out to Jump Around? Marcus Davis did.

   20. EVEverlast12:39

       He did. I know, uh, uh, Cavillo, that, that, the, the female fighter. Uh, she's fights-

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:46

       Cynthia Cavillo?

   22. EVEverlast12:46

       Yes. Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:47

       Yeah.

   24. EVEverlast12:47

       Cavillo. Thank you.

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:48

       Yeah.

   26. EVEverlast12:48

       I know she comes out to Jump Around.

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:50

       Right.

   28. EVEverlast12:50

       I met her at a fight. She was super cool. She was super, super, super cool.

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:53

       Quite a few people have come out to it.

   30. EVEverlast12:56

       Yeah. I think Machida came out to it once.
7. 20:08 – 28:36

   Whiskey talk and Sober October updates (plus a rant about ripped jeans)

   1. EVEverlast20:08

      I wanna try this whiskey, honestly, that he's got. I, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta-

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:11

      Yeah, you're a whiskey expert, right?

   3. EVEverlast20:13

      Yeah, I wanna, I wanna lay hands on it and see.

   4. JRJoe Rogan20:15

      What's a good whiskey?

   5. EVEverlast20:17

      I was, I actually was gonna bring you a bottle of this.

   6. JRJoe Rogan20:20

      Uh-huh.

   7. EVEverlast20:20

      And I will next time, but I didn't because of out of respect-

   8. JRJoe Rogan20:23

      Sober October.

   9. EVEverlast20:24

      ... for Sober October.

   10. JRJoe Rogan20:24

       Sober October may be falling apart, I'm gonna tell you right now.

   11. EVEverlast20:26

       Well-

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:26

       Ladies and gentlemen, Bert Kreischer's going on a cruise and Ari Shaffir and Tom Segura both gave him the green light to, uh, drink because, uh, this fitness challenge is falling apart. Meanwhile, Bert is strongly in last place. Yeah, all that talk about the Mickey Mantle gene, he's not even close. But what's, what's fascinating is Ari Shaffir is very close to me. He's only, he posted today before my workout, that sneaky bitch, that he was ahead of me. But that's how close he is. He's so close that before his workout, he was like 100 points ahead of me. Before my workout rather, after his. Now he's like 400 points behind me. But that's, uh, that's close. 400 points is one workout. If you're a- an asshole and you wanna get on a fucking treadmill for two hours, you can bang out 400 points. I banged out 500 today. 507 at the end of the workout.

   13. EVEverlast21:17

       You're a beast, dude.

   14. JRJoe Rogan21:18

       It's not a beast, man. It's boring.

   15. EVEverlast21:20

       Redbreast.

   16. JRJoe Rogan21:20

       I was watching, I was watching, uh, Gladiator. There's little red spikes in my workout where I hit 90 per- that's when the fights were happening. I got amped. (laughs)

   17. EVEverlast21:30

       (laughs)

   18. JVJamie Vernon21:30

       You might end up doing podcasts while you're on a, uh, elliptical at the end of the month.

   19. JRJoe Rogan21:34

       Eh, it would suck.

   20. EVEverlast21:35

       Redbreast is my favorite new whiskey.

   21. JRJoe Rogan21:38

       Redbreast?

   22. EVEverlast21:38

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan21:38

       Who makes that?

   24. EVEverlast21:39

       It's Redbreast. It's the, it's like an Irish whiskey.

   25. JRJoe Rogan21:42

       Oh.

   26. EVEverlast21:43

       Get the, I'm gonna bring you a bottle of the 20 year old. It's, it's gorgeous.

   27. JRJoe Rogan21:46

       20 years old?

   28. EVEverlast21:47

       Yeah, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan21:47

       Ooh.

   30. EVEverlast21:47

       It's beautiful.
8. 28:36 – 36:21

   Kanye, Kardashians, and monetized spectacle: fame as an attention economy

   1. JRJoe Rogan28:36

      Did you see Kanye jumped on the table at a University?

   2. JVJamie Vernon28:40

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan28:40

      Was talking about leaving Elon Musk alone.

   4. EVEverlast28:42

      That dude has lost his mind, man.

   5. JRJoe Rogan28:44

      What is going on?

   6. EVEverlast28:45

      I don't know, man. I, I... You know, there's a lot of people that speculate and that's all I would say this is from me.

   7. JRJoe Rogan28:50

      This is-

   8. EVEverlast28:51

      But ever since that man's mother died, he's been on a downward spiral, like losing his shit.

   9. JRJoe Rogan28:55

      Well-

   10. EVEverlast28:56

       Uh, you know, I think he's suffering from some serious, like mental shit.

   11. JRJoe Rogan28:59

       No bullshit. He did get into a serious car accident, right?

   12. EVEverlast29:02

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan29:02

       Broke his jaw.

   14. EVEverlast29:03

       Yeah, yeah. Before that.

   15. JRJoe Rogan29:04

       He was seriously injured.

   16. EVEverlast29:04

       Yeah. Long... A few years before that, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan29:06

       That, that is not a joke.

   18. EVEverlast29:08

       No.

   19. JRJoe Rogan29:09

       Like brain trauma and you... Listen, I'm not a doctor or anything even remotely related to one, but I've been around a lot of people who've been hit in the head a lot. That shit's real. Like that, that will change your brain chemistry. It's 100% legit. Like getting hit in the head is no bueno. And car accidents will fuck people up forever. Some people. Some people are okay, they get... They recover. But boy, there's a lot of people that come back from some significant head trauma and just... They're scrambled, man. And he might be one of those. And it also might be what I talked about in my last special, Triggered. But you live with crazy bitches long enough-

   20. EVEverlast29:46

       Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan29:46

       ... they get to you. Something happens.

   22. EVEverlast29:49

       You were talking about the soul-stealing succubi. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan29:52

       (laughs) Yes. It might be true.

   24. EVEverlast29:54

       Dude, that was an amazing routine. I gotta tell you.

   25. JRJoe Rogan29:57

       Well, I was trying to figure out a way that I could get away with making fun of Bruce Jenner without being called transphobic.

   26. EVEverlast30:03

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:03

       So I had to go a circuitous route.

   28. EVEverlast30:05

       It, it was brilliant.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:06

       I had to go a long route-

   30. EVEverlast30:07

       Saw you do it at con... At the com...
9. 36:21 – 42:55

   Dark history tourism: catacombs, bone churches, Pompeii, and volcano fears

   1. JRJoe Rogan36:21

      They figured out a lot of shit. Have you ever been to Paris?

   2. EVEverlast36:25

      Oh, I love Paris. It's one of my favorite cities.

   3. JRJoe Rogan36:25

      Did you ever go to that place underneath it has all the skeletons?

   4. EVEverlast36:28

      No, I have not been to the Catacombs. Friends of mine have gone though.

   5. JRJoe Rogan36:31

      Yeah. I wanna go, man. I wanna go and see that.

   6. EVEverlast36:34

      Yeah. You can get tours and all kinds of shit like that.

   7. JRJoe Rogan36:36

      What was that, the people that died in the plague, is that what it is?

   8. EVEverlast36:39

      I think so.

   9. JRJoe Rogan36:40

      And they just buried them?

   10. EVEverlast36:41

       Yeah, they, you know, the, um, the church, like wh-... put 'em all in, in the catacombs.

   11. JRJoe Rogan36:47

       Do you know at one time, Paris had a wolf problem and people were getting killed by wolves?

   12. EVEverlast36:52

       In recent history?

   13. JRJoe Rogan36:53

       The 1400s.

   14. EVEverlast36:54

       Oh, okay.

   15. JRJoe Rogan36:55

       Look at that. Wow. Look at those pictures of all those skulls. Yeah, there's a crazy story about the wolves in Paris.

   16. EVEverlast36:59

       But I have been to a place that re- whenever I see pictures of this, it reminds me, there's a place in-

   17. JRJoe Rogan37:05

       Wow.

   18. EVEverlast37:05

       ... I wanna say ... What country is Prague? The Czech Republic? I think it's, it's called Kutna Hora, K-U-T-N-A H-O-R-A. It's like a church that's built-

   19. JRJoe Rogan37:15

       Oh, I've seen that.

   20. EVEverlast37:15

       ... of sk- like thousands of people's skeletons, man.

   21. JRJoe Rogan37:19

       Yeah.

   22. EVEverlast37:19

       It's crazy. Yeah. There it is, dude.

   23. JRJoe Rogan37:22

       That's it. What?

   24. EVEverlast37:22

       That place is bananas, man.

   25. JRJoe Rogan37:24

       Did you go to that too?

   26. EVEverlast37:25

       Oh, no, I've been there. I haven't been to the catacombs.

   27. JRJoe Rogan37:27

       Oh my God.

   28. EVEverlast37:27

       But I'm saying whenever I see pictures of the catacombs ... But this place is like an entire church decorated and then they have like little dens or like places-

   29. JRJoe Rogan37:34

       Ugh.

   30. EVEverlast37:34

       ... like altars. It's like thousands and thousands. Those are like vertebrate. There's spine. Oh, no. There's another one where it's like all spines-
10. 42:55 – 48:59

    Vatican awe to organized religion critique: power, scandal, and the Golden Rule

    1. JRJoe Rogan42:55

       Yeah. That's my feet right there. So you're in this church, the church is 1,000 years old, and that... Go back to that last one, Jamie. That one, that's, that's the glass floor, and then you look down and they have this entirely different church underneath it that's way older. They don't know how old it is. Been there forever. Could be several thousand years old. The church is gorgeous, though. There's a lot of those churches in... Have... You've been to the Vatican, right?

    2. EVEverlast43:21

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan43:21

       That's the mind-fuck of all mind-fucks.

    4. EVEverlast43:23

       Yeah, that's crazy.

    5. JRJoe Rogan43:23

       Like St. Peter's Basilica, when you're walking around that place and you're just like, "What?"

    6. EVEverlast43:28

       Yeah, it's amazing.

    7. JRJoe Rogan43:28

       Like, "Who... How? How did people do this?"

    8. EVEverlast43:31

       It's retarted, man.

    9. JRJoe Rogan43:32

       It's un-

    10. EVEverlast43:32

        That whole-

    11. JRJoe Rogan43:33

        ... unbelievable.

    12. EVEverlast43:33

        The whole Vatican just-

    13. JRJoe Rogan43:34

        No, no power saws.

    14. EVEverlast43:36

        Nothing.

    15. JRJoe Rogan43:37

        No, no fucking cranes. Everything was, like, ladders and shit.

    16. EVEverlast43:42

        And the paintings and the art-

    17. JRJoe Rogan43:44

        Yeah.

    18. EVEverlast43:44

        ... just insane.

    19. JRJoe Rogan43:45

        Stunning.

    20. EVEverlast43:46

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan43:46

        Stunning. Billions of dollars worth of art. And the whole area, the whole Vatican is essentially its own country.

    22. EVEverlast43:52

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan43:53

        So they can keep those kid-fuckers over there and they never have to export 'em.

    24. EVEverlast43:57

        Yeah. That's, that's...

    25. JRJoe Rogan43:59

        Yeah. Yeah. That's the darkest of the dark.

    26. EVEverlast44:04

        No argu- no argument here. (laughs)

    27. JRJoe Rogan44:05

        Nobody can, man. They, they'll try. People get mad. And look, I get it, I was a Catholic for a little bit. That's a dark, dark institution. There is no denying it. I mean, they just, they've just busted another group of priests in, in, uh, Pennsylvania. Molested more than 1,000 kids.

    28. EVEverlast44:21

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan44:22

        Moving 'em around-

    30. EVEverlast44:23

        I mean-
11. 48:59 – 55:49

    Politics as theater: Kavanaugh hearings and biopics rewriting history

    1. JRJoe Rogan48:59

       Yeah, but the problem is there's so many people that just... The, uh... And we're, we're seeing this with politics, right? Like, I'm, I'm fascinated by these Kavanaugh hearings. Like, I'll watch little clips of it before I just have to tune out and talk the fuck away-

    2. EVEverlast49:11

       Talking about fuckery.

    3. JRJoe Rogan49:11

       Fuckery. Talk about fuckery.

    4. EVEverlast49:13

       (laughs)

    5. JRJoe Rogan49:14

       I mean, I don't know what that dude did or what he didn't do, but I think what's happening is more than that. What's happening is, first of all, he's involved with, uh... He was a big part of the Patriot Act. He was... You know, he's involved in some, some issues that a lot of people are very concerned with, in terms of, like, how... His position and his stance on privacy and on rights and-

    6. EVEverlast49:37

       Absolutely.

    7. JRJoe Rogan49:38

       Yeah. There's, there's more to it than just, "Did you fuck with someone in high school? Did you sexually assault someone? Did you do that when you were 18? Did you... Do you remember?" Like, there's more to it than that. There's, there's like... They don't want that guy in there. And then you're seeing all the people that want to pretend that he's the best guy ever and all the people...

    8. EVEverlast49:57

       It's crazy ness, man.

    9. JRJoe Rogan49:58

       Yeah. It's fascinating. It's really fascinating. It's fascinating to watch because it's essentially like a, a less... Like, the, the Clarence Thomas hearings from, was it like the 1980s, I believe? Clarence Thomas. I feel like that was like-

    10. EVEverlast50:12

        Late '80s, early '90s.

    11. JRJoe Rogan50:14

        Yeah, somewhere around there. Clarence Thomas, that was like with Anita Hill, where he had sexually harassed her. They were working together and she came-

    12. EVEverlast50:21

        Yeah, the whole pubic hairs on the whatever, Coke or something.

    13. JRJoe Rogan50:25

        Do you know that he's now the longest running, um, member of the Supreme Court?

    14. EVEverlast50:30

        I-

    15. JRJoe Rogan50:30

        He's n- he's now been in the Supreme Court longer, I think... I read that. Check to make sure that's true.

    16. EVEverlast50:36

        Isn't Ruth Greater Gins- uh, Bader Ginsburg, hasn't she been there longer?

    17. JVJamie Vernon50:40

        She's the longest serving, 26 years as of October 4th, it will be.

    18. JRJoe Rogan50:44

        Mm-hmm.

    19. EVEverlast50:44

        Oh, wow.

    20. JRJoe Rogan50:45

        It will be. Yeah.

    21. EVEverlast50:45

        Crazy.

    22. JRJoe Rogan50:46

        Crazy. Yeah, so it didn't work. Anita Hill is out there living with the memory of pubic hairs on Coke.

    23. EVEverlast50:53

        Yeah. And a movie now, an HBO movie not too long ago.

    24. JRJoe Rogan50:57

        Oh, yeah. Did you watch it?

    25. EVEverlast50:59

        I saw it. It was, it was-

    26. JRJoe Rogan51:00

        Was it okay?

    27. EVEverlast51:00

        It was a pretty good movie. It was just... You know. We lived through it, so it's like, it's like whenever I see movies about like the OJ trial or something-

    28. JRJoe Rogan51:07

        Right.

    29. EVEverlast51:07

        ... and I'm like, "No, I saw the... We saw it live-

    30. JRJoe Rogan51:09

        Right.
12. 55:49 – 1:25:33

    Movies that wreck your mood, DJ Khaled catchphrases, and the value of comedy

    1. EVEverlast55:49

       I played myself once on tour. I fucking... It was like back when you got D- When the ever- when the Tower Records and those things were still around. Like, on Tuesdays, the movies and the records-

    2. JRJoe Rogan55:56

       Yeah.

    3. EVEverlast55:56

       ... would all come out. So we were on tour, we would stop and buy a bunch of shit for the bus, buy records and this. I bought a bunch of movies and I threw on Magnolia, had just come out.

    4. JRJoe Rogan56:05

       Ooh.

    5. EVEverlast56:05

       I watched that and I was like, "Oh wow, that was fucking fucked up."

    6. JRJoe Rogan56:10

       (laughs)

    7. EVEverlast56:11

       And then without looking, I just grabbed the next movie and put it in, and it was Titus Andronicus. And I don't know if you're aware or like hip to this, it's like one of the darkest fucking Shakespeare fucking plays ever about this... I mean, you... I ju- go s- if you ain't seen it-

    8. JRJoe Rogan56:23

       What? I want-

    9. EVEverlast56:23

       ... when, when you got the wherewithal to sit through some real fucking darkness, Anthony Hopkins is fucking insane in this movie as Titus Andronicus.

    10. JRJoe Rogan56:31

        Oh.

    11. EVEverlast56:31

        It's, it's fucking dark. So I watched these two movies back to back and for T- two weeks, Joe, I can't shake the like, just depressing-

    12. JRJoe Rogan56:41

        The imagery?

    13. EVEverlast56:41

        ... like, oh my God, there's no happy endings anywhere. The world's a- yeah. (laughs)

    14. JRJoe Rogan56:46

        Ugh.

    15. EVEverlast56:46

        From then on, I'll only watch comedies and fucking like, Pixar movies (laughs) and old Warner Brother cartoons out there on the road, man.

    16. JRJoe Rogan56:55

        Is he eating dinner while people are hanging in front of him?

    17. EVEverlast56:57

        Um, I... Do you, uh, do you wanna know?

    18. JRJoe Rogan56:59

        No.

    19. EVEverlast56:59

        You're never gonna watch this, right? He's about to cut them up and make dinner out of them and serve them-

    20. JRJoe Rogan57:03

        Oh.

    21. EVEverlast57:03

        ... to his own, to their families. Like, it's, it's dark, man.

    22. JRJoe Rogan57:07

        Oh, Jesus.

    23. EVEverlast57:09

        It's, it's really dark. It's one of the dark... It is the darkest Shakespeare, like, thing I've ever read or seen.

    24. JRJoe Rogan57:15

        Okay, that's enough.

    25. EVEverlast57:17

        And that was right after Magnolia, I watched that. (laughs)

    26. JRJoe Rogan57:20

        Man, a double whammy-

    27. EVEverlast57:21

        Double whammy-

    28. JRJoe Rogan57:22

        ... of depression.

    29. EVEverlast57:22

        ... dude. Oh, it was horrible.

    30. JRJoe Rogan57:24

        Remember that movie 21 Grams?

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