CHAPTERS
- 0:02 – 2:12
Quitting weed, edibles vs smoking, and stomach issues
Joe and Joey open by debating the logic of quitting marijuana for 29 days and whether it’s worth staying off longer. Joey explains why edibles started bothering him physically, including stomach discomfort and intense late-night hunger.
- 2:12 – 4:58
Weight loss strategy: breakfast, fasting skepticism, and old eating habits
The conversation shifts to Joey’s weight-loss approach and why intermittent fasting doesn’t work for him. He contrasts his current structured eating with his past lifestyle of late eating fueled by stimulants.
- 4:58 – 6:33
Progress with Weight Watchers and fitness tracking (without gadgets)
Joey details his long-term, gradual progress on Weight Watchers and how he tracks activity points. Joe probes how the system measures exercise and Joey explains his preference for not using heart-rate monitors.
- 6:33 – 10:35
Sober October mindset, stage comedown rituals, and late-night writing
They return to weed and the psychology of stopping, especially for performers who need to come down after sets. Joey describes using music and marijuana to unwind and explains his routine for journaling and writing projects.
- 10:35 – 14:39
Mitzi Shore’s Comedy Store “technique” and the art of managing a room
Joey and Joe reflect on Mitzi Shore’s influence and instincts running The Comedy Store. They revisit Joe’s notorious “old billionaire/Anna Nicole” bit and why Mitzi restricted it to protect the main room’s flow.
- 14:39 – 16:38
Wealth, rich women lists, and the Theranos/Elizabeth Holmes fraud story
The discussion jumps from billionaire tabloid stories into how extreme wealth is accumulated and perceived. Joe explains the Theranos scandal as an example of a ‘self-made’ narrative collapsing into fraud.
- 16:38 – 19:51
Classic scams: Crazy Eddie, marketing hype, and investor deception
Joey recounts the rise and fall of Crazy Eddie, the iconic NYC electronics pitchman. They outline the alleged fraud tactics—fake inventory and manipulation—plus the colorful way authorities caught him.
- 19:51 – 23:44
Imus vs Stern and why shock radio changed entertainment
Joe contrasts the stale feel of Imus with the chaos and innovation of Howard Stern’s show. They discuss how audiences responded to outrageousness and how addiction and on-air encouragement can trap performers.
- 23:44 – 27:47
Old neighborhood stories: nicknames, delis, and rough-edged nostalgia
Joey launches into vivid stories from his youth—local characters, casual cruelty, and street-level hustling. The tone is comedic but reveals how normal dysfunction felt in that environment.
- 27:47 – 34:49
Aging quirks: alopecia, eyebrows, and the body’s weird trade-offs
From hair in food they pivot into hair loss and aging bodies. Joe discusses alopecia’s effects while Joey jokes about eyebrows and ear hair taking over as other body hair disappears.
- 34:49 – 39:53
Marriage economics: massive divorce settlements and ‘lifestyle’ arguments
They revisit the richest-women topic via high-profile divorce payouts and the logic courts use. Joe argues the system can become absurd when long-term payments continue without kids involved.
- 39:53 – 47:02
Rockstar longevity: Mick Jagger’s discipline, touring at 70+, and Keith Richards’ hands
They marvel at aging rock stars still performing at elite levels, especially Mick Jagger’s fitness. The conversation includes band politics, ticket-selling ruthlessness, and the physical toll of decades of guitar playing.
- 47:02 – 52:35
Rocky/Creed love letter: Stallone’s legacy and real fight injuries
Joey explains how watching Creed changed his opinion of Stallone’s artistry and perseverance. They dig into behind-the-scenes stories, including Stallone being hospitalized after taking real punches on set.
- 52:35 – 58:46
Martial arts deep dive: Kyokushin, Muay Thai clinches, sweeps, and wrestling rooms
Joe breaks down Kyokushin rules and why it produces tough fighters, then ties it into Muay Thai and MMA effectiveness. They swap stories about old-school karate sweeps, wrestling practice misery, and childhood playground injuries.
- 58:46 – 1:00:58
Modern culture and accountability: parenting daughters, Kavanaugh/Weinstein, and high school scars
Joey connects current cultural scandals to how fathers think about raising daughters today. They discuss the difficulty of adjudicating decades-old accusations and how high school trauma can define people for life.
- 1:00:58 – 3:17:14
Horror and storytelling craft: Stephen King, The Exorcist, Scarface, and ‘show vs tell’ directing
They riff on horror’s cultural impact (It and clown backlash), then praise classic filmmaking that relies on restraint and imagination. Joey argues modern cinema overuses CGI and loses the director’s ability to build tension through implication.
