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Joe Rogan Experience #1194 - Sober October 2 Recap

Joe is joined by Ari Shaffir, Bert Kreischer & Tom Segura to recap their 2nd annual Sober October challenge.

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Nov 6, 20184h 22mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:000:19

    Sober October officially ends: instant celebration and post-challenge disbelief

    1. AS

      Five.

    2. JR

      Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. Five, four, three, two, one. Boom. It's over, boys.

    3. BK

      Cheers.

    4. JR

      We did it.

    5. TS

      Cheers. Cheers.

    6. JR

      Sober October-

    7. TS

      Cheers, buddy.

    8. BK

      Cheers.

    9. JR

      ... has come to an end.

    10. BK

      Cheers. (laughs)

    11. TS

      (laughs) Cheers.

    12. JR

      It is now No Remember November.

    13. TS

      Here we go.

    14. BK

      Better November. No Remember November. I like that.

  2. 0:193:00

    How the competition got personal: strategies, trash talk, and psychological games

    1. JR

      First of all, (clears throat) whose fucking stupid idea was it to do this goddamn fitness challenge, Tommy Buns?

    2. BK

      (laughs)

    3. TS

      That was awful.

    4. JR

      Last, last year, last year, we did a, a nice, calm 15 hot yogas.

    5. TS

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      It was not that big a deal.

    7. BK

      How is that so awful?

    8. JR

      Not even close.

    9. BK

      Not even close to this.

    10. TS

      Not even close.

    11. JR

      No, this was so much more difficult.

    12. TS

      And I didn't expect this-

    13. BK

      Oh.

    14. TS

      ... but I like it.

    15. BK

      Yeah.

    16. TS

      I liked ... I think it's fun to be competitive with your friends.

    17. JR

      Yes.

    18. TS

      It's a fun thing.

    19. JR

      It was fun.

    20. TS

      I mean, not year round.

    21. JR

      No.

    22. TS

      But, like, like, isolating something like this?

    23. JR

      Once a year.

    24. TS

      Yeah.

    25. BK

      Oh, you get to see different sides of people you didn't know existed. Yeah.

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. TS

      Oh, yeah.

    28. BK

      Jesus Christ, Joe. I wasn't happy for any of you.

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. BK

      I'm happy any of you worked out. So you have no idea.

  3. 3:005:07

    The MyZone points system explained (and why 600–1000 point days were insane)

    1. TS

      For context-

    2. BK

      Like, I was looking at the ... Uh, th- uh, the ... When we started this month and I put in my 700-point day, everyone was a little bit like, "Wow, Bert." Uh, by the way, I ran almost a marathon that day. Have no fucking clue. I was just looking at my goddamn phone the whole time.

    3. JR

      Just checking the points.

    4. BK

      Just checking the points. I was always-

    5. TS

      (laughs)

    6. JR

      So, so peop- so people-

    7. BK

      I love this.

    8. JR

      ... who don't know what the points are, we'll explain. If you get 70% of your max heart rate, that's three points a minute. If you get 80% of your max fr- heart rate or above, that's four points a minute. So we all tried to stay in the 80 range 'cause that's where you get your money.

    9. TS

      Right.

    10. JR

      That's where the, that's where the points-

    11. BK

      So you had to-

    12. TS

      So you had to.

    13. JR

      You get two-

    14. BK

      So a heavy workout for an hour in that range, from 80 to 100, a heavy workout is, gives you 240 points. So if you-

    15. TS

      But that's if you're maxxed out for 60 minutes.

    16. BK

      If you're, if you're maxxed out.

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. BK

      That just gives you context to what a 600-

    19. TS

      Which was easier-

    20. JR

      One day, I got ni- I did a 935-point workout.

    21. BK

      Jesus. It was over after that. We ... Tom and I were talking.

    22. TS

      That was the beginning of the end. Yeah.

    23. BK

      I was in New York and called him. I was like, "Dude, he's just fucking going dragging elk around."

    24. TS

      Yeah.

    25. BK

      "He has it on the whole time. He's dragging elk around."

    26. JR

      No, that wasn't even that one.

    27. TS

      No, that was another one.

    28. JR

      That was, that was, uh, the, the elk hu- hunting day.

    29. TS

      Yeah, that was a different one.

    30. BK

      Yeah.

  4. 5:077:08

    Late-night uploading drama: Ari’s ‘night moves’ and the battle for the leaderboard

    1. BK

      Does the family see you guys anymore? (laughs)

    2. TS

      Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Did ... Like, (laughs) there was, like ... I, I didn't have ... I ... There was a ... It was ... A part of it was time management.

    3. BK

      I was ... I suffered socially from this.

    4. TS

      That's a huge part of it.

    5. JR

      (clears throat)

    6. BK

      (laughs)

    7. TS

      A har- a huge part ... The huge part was, like, who had the most time to spend in the gym?

    8. BK

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. TS

      Yeah.

    11. BK

      I was here two Mondays ago, or last Monday, and it was, it was ... It's popping out at the Comedy Store. I was gonna hang out with everybody, you know. And then it was like, "No, it's 10 o'clock. Gotta ... I gotta get a couple of hours in." And then, "Oh, well."

    12. TS

      Your workouts, your workouts were so late.

    13. BK

      So late. (laughs)

    14. TS

      'Cause they were all logs.

    15. BK

      No, no, no, fuck Ari. Fuck y- y- I gotta say this. Fuck you with you posting your goddamn workouts in the middle of the night. It was so deflating to go to sleep going- Yeah, I wanted, I watched you go to bed.

    16. TS

      I've got a 200-point lead-

    17. BK

      Of course.

    18. TS

      ... and then wake up and go, "How am I 600 points behind?"

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. BK

      I tried to break spirit.

    21. TS

      It was fun.

    22. BK

      Because that's the other thing. Ari went through, when he got this tracker, and he found out all the work, workarounds. So he would build up work points in his tracker and then he'd Bluetooth it in the middle of the fucking night.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. AS

      No, I'd also do the workouts then.

    25. TS

      He would work out?

    26. JR

      Oh, he was doing workouts at, like, 10:00, 10:00 PM.

    27. BK

      I'd come home from the cellar at 1:30 AM, and then I'd be like-

    28. TS

      Yeah.

    29. BK

      ... "Let me change and go out there." That was the worst.

    30. TS

      Dude, that was so- He would go out to the gym at 2:00 in the morning.

  5. 7:087:41

    Cheating ideas (real and imagined): age hacks, proxy wearers, and disqualification-worthy schemes

    1. TS

      And then I kept going. Okay, first of all, I had fallback plans.

    2. JR

      Okay, what was the plans?

    3. TS

      Okay, Michelle Wolf offered to give... Let me just have her wear the thing.

    4. JR

      Wow.

    5. TS

      From day one, that was definitely the fallback plan.

    6. BK

      Tom, but I knew that was gonna happen regardless.

    7. JR

      Is she a workout fiend?

    8. TS

      Oh yeah, she runs 10 miles a day every day.

    9. BK

      Oh my God.

    10. JR

      Oh my God.

    11. TS

      And when I asked her, I was like, "Hey, would you wear this thing for me if I needed you to?" She goes, "I know what you're talking about. Absolutely I'll wear it for you."

    12. JR

      Whoa.

    13. TS

      "I will stay in the right zone, I'll tell no one." She feels left out. (laughs)

    14. JR

      Oh.

    15. TS

      She thinks she would lap all of us.

    16. BK

      She's a beast.

    17. TS

      Yeah, she goes crazy.

    18. AS

      Yeah. Yeah, she probably would.

  6. 7:4112:11

    Joe’s 5.5-hour elliptical marathon: meditative suffering, sweat storms, and a fire alarm

    1. JR

      Well, this is... None of this is what we do.

    2. BK

      Right.

    3. JR

      Like, I don't do long cardio sessions.

    4. AS

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      I did five and a half hours on an elliptical after running for an hour.

    6. TS

      Five- What?

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. AS

      This is how you get one of those crazy days.

    9. JR

      I o- that's why I got 935 points. I, I ran for an hour and then I stayed on the elliptical for five and a half hours.

    10. AS

      Wow.

    11. TS

      You would see it going, you'd check it and be like, "Fucking Brogan got 300 points." And then you'd talk and you'd check back in 30 minutes later and be like, "Oh no, it's still going."

    12. AS

      Yeah.

    13. TS

      "It's still going."

    14. AS

      What the fuck?

    15. JR

      Well, I just wanted to see how far I could go. The thought was, like, when you're tired, how tired are you? Can you take another step? Okay. Can you take two? Okay. Can you take three? Can you just keep going? I bet you can keep going. Let's see how long you can keep going. And then you get to this point where you just, just think about breathing. Just think about breathing.

    16. TS

      (laughs)

    17. JR

      That's all I was thinking about. I was just thinking about in and outs and just trying to stay... Almost like a meditative state, trying to stay in the zone.

    18. TS

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      And I was pouring sweat. I set off the fire alarm.

    20. AS

      That's right. (laughs)

    21. JR

      'Cause there was so much steam coming off my body.

    22. AS

      I've never seen that before.

    23. TS

      That's nuts.

    24. JR

      It set off the fire alarm.

    25. TS

      That's nuts.

    26. JR

      That was like four hours in, the fire alarm.

    27. AS

      I feel like that's a story most people don't get to tell about themselves, you know?

    28. TS

      (laughs)

    29. AS

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      Dude, it was madness. (alarm going off) This is not how I work out. I work out for a, like, maybe an hour at most. I hit the bag, I'll do some rounds, I'll lift little weights. I'm not trying to kill myself. Like, this was, this was very interesting, 'cause I didn't, I didn't know what... How my body would respond-

  7. 12:1120:48

    Training tactics: machines vs. hills, minimalist shoes, and staying distracted

    1. JR

      Dude, my hardest workouts scored the shittiest. My hardest workouts are running the hills and lifting weights. If I run the hills, it gives me-... almost 40 points less than if I just rode a bike or rode an elliptical machine-

    2. TS

      'Cause you're not-

    3. JR

      Stayed in the zone.

    4. ... 'cause it's so f-

    5. TS

      And you go up and down, you have to pause.

    6. JR

      And the way I do it is I run hard and I take breaks. I take, like, a deep breath when I get to the top of one hill.

    7. TS

      He strokes his dick the whole time too, so that's-

    8. JR

      I rub-

    9. TS

      ... difficult. Yeah.

    10. JR

      I rub my balls together-

    11. 12 points. (laughs)

    12. ... with my left hand and I give myself another, you know, sprint until I can't... I have, like, these points where I know I can make it too if I go full clip.

    13. TS

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      And then I try to extend it a little bit and I keep trying to extend it. But when I do that, I'm going in the red. And on top of going in the red, um, I'm... It's like with lifting weights, like you need recovery time.

    15. TS

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      And in recovery time, your heart rate crashes way low. You could just do the elliptical machine and just put it at like 15 resistance so it's got some, some give to it-

    17. TS

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      ... and you start sweating. And then you get into a zone. You just get into a really-

    19. Yeah, and you just keep sweating.

    20. ... it's way easier.

    21. Uh-huh.

    22. But it's... A machine makes it all easy.

    23. TS

      But those-

    24. JR

      Because you just get into a zone, you just gotta be strong.

    25. TS

      I think the thing with those though, I mean, even though, like, if you do the intense workout, recovery's gonna be, you know, you're gonna need it, you're gonna feel it.

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. TS

      If you do those for like days in a row-

    28. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    29. TS

      ... there is still a fatigue, right? Like 'cause you're-

    30. JR

      Oh, yeah.

  8. 20:4825:27

    Physical and mental side effects: dehydration scares, libido jokes, sleep gains, and anxiety relief

    1. TS

      The last week or so was like dangerous.

    2. JR

      Wait, wait, wait.

    3. TS

      That- that- it became a fight for seconds.

    4. JR

      Dude, it got tricky when I started pissing iced tea-

    5. TS

      Yeah, that's fucked up.

    6. JR

      A lot of people were asking me about it. It's just dehydration, that's all it is.

    7. TS

      That's not- that's not a just.

    8. Well, a lot of people-

    9. BK

      Dude, people would message us, by the way.

    10. JR

      I got some dark pits.

    11. BK

      Like, "Joe's gonna die. Joe's gonna..."

    12. JR

      I'm okay, I didn't get rabid. But people- some people were upset, like- like they wanted me almost to get it because I'm always ragging on these CrossFit guys that get it.

    13. BK

      Yeah.

    14. TS

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      I have not ragged on them. What I've had- said is that I have heard some negative opinions about CrossFits from experts that I trust, like Steve Maxwell. I'm not a fitness expert by any stretch of the imagination. I don't know whether or not CrossFit's bad or good, and I bet it's probably based on your application, the way you do it. Because if somebody asks me, "Is jujitsu good for your body?" (sighs) I'd be like, "Well, I've had a bunch of surgeries."

    16. TS

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      Everybody I know has had surgeries.

    18. BK

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      Everybody I know that does jujitsu, ah, our against- uh, he didn't even get his blue belt and he got surgery.

    20. BK

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      Really?

    22. TS

      But I will say before we started this podcast, Joe did say those, uh, CrossFit people are tree hugging hippies.

    23. BK

      (laughs)

    24. JR

      (laughs) I'm a tree hugging hippie.

    25. TS

      Uh, who wanna get their yoga black belt.

    26. JR

      I want a yoga black belt. I'd love a yoga black belt. I'm like a blue belt in yoga.

    27. BK

      Dude, halfway through the month, I told Tom this the other day and he laughed and so I tried it on stage and it worked, but I stopped producing semen. (laughs)

    28. TS

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      Just coughing dust?

    30. BK

      Dude, my dick had the dry heaves just... (imitates retching)

  9. 25:2740:25

    Ari’s engine and anger: surprising endurance, rower brutality, and competitive identity

    1. BK

      I like the first break of sweat. I like, I love... What I love. And I, I have to say, I have to give props to people more than anything, but Ari doing that rower redefined the way I, I had to look at working out because I went... He, he was in 80%. Like, I know what 80% feels like.

    2. AS

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      On a rower.

    4. BK

      He was there for an hour.

    5. JR

      On a rower, it's fucking hard.

    6. AS

      That was a tough one. And some of them are harder than others to keep at 80%. Biking was way harder. Mm-hmm. Did you know, did you know you were capable of it? Seriously, did you know? No.

    7. JR

      I thought he was capable of it.

    8. BK

      I, I, I did not. I did not.

    9. AS

      I, uh, uh, uh, running and stuff, that's fine. I could sort of do like that.

    10. BK

      Yeah.

    11. AS

      But I didn't know quite how much.

    12. JR

      Here's the, here's the deal.

    13. BK

      80% on a rower.

    14. JR

      Ari's angry.

    15. AS

      Yeah. I am angry. (laughs)

    16. JR

      Ari's an angry person.

    17. BK

      Really? (laughs)

    18. JR

      Ari gets angry. Yes. Even when he's playful, angry.

    19. AS

      That's my, that's my, that's my zen spot.

    20. BK

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      But even when Ari's playful angry, it's still energy.

    22. AS

      Right.

    23. JR

      Like that anger, like the anger that he gave everybody on that fucking podcast.

    24. AS

      Yeah.

    25. BK

      Ugh.

    26. JR

      The one you did with someone from my-

    27. AS

      Yeah, your hate cast. (laughs)

    28. JR

      One of my favorite podcasts ever.

    29. BK

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      Ari's hiking around doing a podcast talking shit about us.

  10. 40:2548:12

    Not sustainable: rhabdo talk, overtraining limits, and what ‘healthy’ training looks like after October

    1. JR

      Well, here's the thing. What- what we did was not healthy.

    2. BK

      No.

    3. JR

      This is what I wanted to talk about.

    4. AS

      Can you smell that ice on this?

    5. JR

      Not sustainable.

    6. BK

      Yeah, no chance. And, um, I, uh-

    7. TS

      I'm gonna keep it up.

    8. BK

      Like, all- no bullshit.

    9. TS

      No, no, not sustainable. It's crazy.

    10. AS

      Fuck no.

    11. BK

      No, I'm gonna- I'm gonna keep up. Spin class and try to do, on evenings, try to do-

    12. AS

      By the way-

    13. BK

      ... a six-mile jog.

    14. TS

      Uh, that's a good thought. What can we- what can we keep up?

    15. AS

      The 31st- the 31st-

    16. BK

      Yeah.

    17. TS

      Yeah.

    18. AS

      Like, I talked to you- I talked to everybody.

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. AS

      But that last workout.

    21. TS

      Yeah. I was dead.

    22. AS

      I- I couldn't- I couldn't have gone that much further.

    23. TS

      It's like, "Oh, my God."

    24. JR

      Well, no, in- in all honesty, after my piss came out a weird color, I really did, um, have phantom pains in my kidneys. I really was like, "Maybe that was- wasn't just dehydration."

    25. AS

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      "Maybe there's something more. Maybe there's something going on." I really did have some weird phantom idea that there was a pain, but physically, I felt pretty good, man.

    27. AS

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      Because the whole thing was, the- the lot of that rhabdo, and here's the thing about, it's called rhabdomyolysis. Is that how you say it? Did I say it right? Rhabdo, um, has actually been the s- source of death for a few fighters, where, um, guys got really beat up in a crazy, really difficult fight, and the- the thing that did them in was they were probably overtrained.

    29. TS

      Mm-hmm.

    30. JR

      And they probably did too much in the gym, didn't give themselves enough time to recover, and then had a really brutal fight.

  11. 48:121:04:02

    Conversation detour: hunting stories, grizzly encounters, and why ‘monsters are real’

    1. JR

      I saw Adam Greentree, like, kill some elk in s- wherever the fuck he is these days and a bear claimed it. Mm-hmm.

    2. TS

      Did you see that?

    3. JR

      Yeah, he shot a moose.

    4. BK

      Jesus Christ.

    5. JR

      And it was in, uh-

    6. TS

      The bear just went on. He's like, "This is mine."

    7. JR

      Yeah, he shot a moose-

    8. TS

      "This is mine. I pissed on it and I dug it out."

    9. JR

      ... in the Yukon and a grizzly bear claimed it and covered it with dirt.

    10. BK

      Right away?

    11. JR

      Yeah, the entire moose. No, he, he shot it. They took part of it. See, what... A moose is probably like 1800 pounds. They're so big. They're like... A big elk, like a Rocky Mountain elk's like 800 pounds. That's a big one. A moose is 1000 pounds bigger than that when it's fully mature. So some-

    12. TS

      Whoa.

    13. JR

      And that's what Adam shot.

    14. BK

      God.

    15. JR

      He shot a gigantic moose. So they can only carry so much of it out. Like this, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pounds of meat. 1800 pounds moose might be seven, 800 pounds of it is meat.

    16. BK

      Fuck. Wow.

    17. JR

      You know? So you have to take it out in loads. So if you have two guys-

    18. BK

      Oh, Lord.

    19. JR

      ... right? You're taking out several loads. So they took out one pack out and then they came back and a giant grizzly bear had claimed it and covered it up.

    20. BK

      And the grizzly bear was still in the area?

    21. JR

      Oh, yeah. He covered up the moose.

    22. BK

      Oh, dude, Adam Greenree is one of my favorite people to follow on Instagram.

    23. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    24. BK

      But I know that no one likes when there's a lot of-

    25. ... little bleeps in a story. But when I go on Adam Greentree and he's got a hundred little dots, I go, "Oh, this is gonna be a good one."

    26. JR

      Yeah. It's adam.greentree on, uh, Instagram. And he's a, he's a bow hunter from Australia. And Australia's-

    27. BK

      He's an ass.

    28. JR

      ... an interesting place because one of the reasons why, I mean, he's, he's just a real smart guy. And a really, uh, uh, he's like, he's the real deal. Uh-

    29. BK

      A real deal in every way. And I'll, I'll pimp him out.

    30. JR

      Just as a person.

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