Joe Rogan Experience #1306 - Wiz Khalifa

Joe Rogan 0:00 (clears throat) (humming) And we're going live.

Wiz Khalifa 0:07 Yes, sir. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:08 (laughs) What you got on ... Social media?

Wiz Khalifa 0:09 Mm-hmm. People love you, bro.

Joe Rogan 0:12 People love you too. Oh, we're live? We're doing it right now.

Wiz Khalifa 0:14 I'm super excited.

Joe Rogan 0:15 So we, we've, uh, gawed ... What's the word? Gawked? What's the word when you ogled over someone's body?

Narrator 0:21 Sure.

Joe Rogan 0:22 Well, dude, you got jacked.

Wiz Khalifa 0:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:23 You went from being skinny to shredded.

Wiz Khalifa 0:25 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:26 You're pretty serious about MMA training, man.

Wiz Khalifa 0:28 It's really just about, like, the lifestyle. You know what I mean? You're a martial artist, so you know, freaking, the mind and the body and the soul go together, so-

Joe Rogan 0:38 Yeah. For sure.

Wiz Khalifa 0:38 All these things, I'm learning about them, I'm, I'm able to put them all together. You can't be a complete person until everything is together.

Joe Rogan 0:44 Ooh.

Wiz Khalifa 0:44 So, um, you know, spiritually I've already ascended above my peers. Now I'm taking my body up there.

Joe Rogan 0:51 How are you doing that spiritually? Through that giant jug of weed you got on the table? (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 0:54 Exactly. (laughs) Stay high.

Joe Rogan 0:56 Yeah, for the folks only listening, Wiz brought, literally, like, a, a Mason jar-

Wiz Khalifa 1:01 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 1:01 ... filled with weed.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02 Yeah, yep. Yep. Yep. And it's, like, halfway full 'cause I was in the studio.

Joe Rogan 1:05 Do you have specific strains that you like?

Wiz Khalifa 1:07 Yeah, I smoke the KK, Khalifa Kush.

Joe Rogan 1:09 Oh, you got your own shit?

Wiz Khalifa 1:10 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:10 Mmm.

Wiz Khalifa 1:11 Yeah, absolutely. 'Cause I, I got tired of smoking all different types of weed, um. It's like a drink, you know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 1:17 Mm-hmm, right.

Wiz Khalifa 1:17 Like alcohol, people only drink dark liquor, whiskey or-

Joe Rogan 1:20 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 1:20 I only smoke KK.

Joe Rogan 1:22 Only KK?

Wiz Khalifa 1:22 Yeah, yep.

Joe Rogan 1:23 Well, if you mix it up though, you'll get a big hit, right?

Wiz Khalifa 1:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:25 Like, if, if you switch it up to somebody else's stuff, you're like, "Woo."

Wiz Khalifa 1:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:28 Like, your body's not n- ready for it.

Wiz Khalifa 1:29 My head will go crazy and-

Joe Rogan 1:31 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 1:31 ... like, I'll really feel it. You'll see me, like, over in the corner stoned somewhere. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:36 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 1:36 I only have to smoke KK, that's it.

Joe Rogan 1:38 That's the weed, weird thing about weed, right? Like, you, you get used to-

Wiz Khalifa 1:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:41 ... a certain strain.

Wiz Khalifa 1:42 Yeah. Like, I'll get physically, like, ill if I don't smoke my strain. I'll get runny nose-

Joe Rogan 1:48 Really? Really?

Wiz Khalifa 1:48 ... coughing. Yeah, yeah, I need (laughs) I need KK.

Joe Rogan 1:52 Wow.

Wiz Khalifa 1:52 Yeah, yep. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:53 That's cr- How much do you smoke a day?

Wiz Khalifa 1:55 Probably an ounce, like, a cool ... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:57 Jesus!

Wiz Khalifa 1:58 We, we burning a cool ounce.

Joe Rogan 2:00 God!

Wiz Khalifa 2:01 (laughs) How about you?

Joe Rogan 2:02 I don't smoke that much.

Wiz Khalifa 2:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:03 No, like a joint. More like a joint a day. I'm a light-

Wiz Khalifa 2:05 Really?

Joe Rogan 2:06 Yeah. I like blunts.

Wiz Khalifa 2:07 I would think that you were, like, just getting stoned all day.

Joe Rogan 2:11 I get stoned all day when I don't have shit to do.

Wiz Khalifa 2:12 Got you.

Joe Rogan 2:13 But if I have too much shit to do-

Wiz Khalifa 2:15 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 2:15 ... and I get stoned all day, that shit doesn't get done. Oh.

Wiz Khalifa 2:17 You said you like blunts?

Joe Rogan 2:18 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 2:19 Why you like blunts?

Joe Rogan 2:20 'Cause the little tobacco gives you-

Wiz Khalifa 2:21 There you go.

Joe Rogan 2:21 ... like this little extra high.

Wiz Khalifa 2:23 Yep, yep. I'm glad you admitted it.

Joe Rogan 2:24 Yeah. Wow.

Wiz Khalifa 2:25 Like, people who smoke blunts, they, they, they don't ... Some of them, they don't know that they're tobacco-ing and they try to mask it and say, "No, you know, it's a leaf." And it's like, "No, bro, you like tobacco."

Joe Rogan 2:36 Yeah. It's tobacco with weed.

Wiz Khalifa 2:38 Yep.

Joe Rogan 2:38 It's like a combo high.

Wiz Khalifa 2:39 It cuts it a little bit too.

Joe Rogan 2:41 Yeah. I, I like it before I go on stage. That's my favorite before I go on stage.

Wiz Khalifa 2:44 That's what's up.

Joe Rogan 2:44 It gives me, like, a little pick up, but a little-

Wiz Khalifa 2:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:46 ... high, but a little, like, woo.

Wiz Khalifa 2:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm happy how legal weed is these days because it's like, I would ... I- My son had a spring concert yesterday and I would feel like shit back in the day walking in there smelling like bud.

Joe Rogan 2:59 Ha.

Wiz Khalifa 3:00 'Cause he goes to private school-

Joe Rogan 3:01 Right, right. (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 3:02 ... and it's like ... You know what I mean? It's a reflection on him.

Joe Rogan 3:04 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 3:04 So it's like, you know, you got the weed head dad-

Joe Rogan 3:06 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 3:07 ... blah, blah, blah, this kind of other thing. But it's like nowadays, that shit is cool, like-

Joe Rogan 3:09 No one cares.

Wiz Khalifa 3:10 Nobody gives a fuck.

Joe Rogan 3:11 Yeah, it, I've seen it happen 'cause I have a 22-year-old daughter, but then I also have an 11 and a nine-year-old.

Wiz Khalifa 3:16 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 3:16 And with the 22-year-old, when she was growing up, it was all weird. It was weird.

Wiz Khalifa 3:20 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 3:20 It was like, if you were a ... you were a loser if you were smoking weed.

Wiz Khalifa 3:23 Bro, playdates, you know what I'm saying? Like-

Joe Rogan 3:24 Yeah, people coming over your house, you got weed at the house.

Wiz Khalifa 3:26 Yeah, bro.

Joe Rogan 3:27 Parents get weird.

Wiz Khalifa 3:29 I live, like, right up the street from a school so, like, I'm getting real technical with it, like ... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:35 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 3:35 I'm in a school zone. (laughs) You know what I'm saying? Like-

Joe Rogan 3:38 Like, legitimately, yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 3:39 Bro, like, I could be-

Joe Rogan 3:41 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 3:41 ... not here right now.

Joe Rogan 3:41 Incarcerated.

Wiz Khalifa 3:42 For real. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:43 Yeah. Did you see that lady they locked up today in Dallas? Did you see that shit?

Wiz Khalifa 3:46 No, I, nope, I didn't see that.

Joe Rogan 3:46 An old lady, a grandmother, they locked her up 'cause she had CBD on her.

Wiz Khalifa 3:50 Really?

Joe Rogan 3:51 (coughs) Yeah, she was at Dallas Airport.

Wiz Khalifa 3:53 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 3:53 It's not even psychoactive. And I think she had the oil, like, for her skin.

Wiz Khalifa 3:57 Right. Oh, they just hating.

Joe Rogan 3:59 It's just ridiculous.

Wiz Khalifa 3:59 And she's a old lady too.

Joe Rogan 4:00 Old lady who needs it for arthritis.

Wiz Khalifa 4:02 That's trash.

Joe Rogan 4:02 My wife's mom uses it for arthritis. It's great for older folks.

Wiz Khalifa 4:05 CBD is the shit. My, uh, my ... I was about to call her my ex-baby's mom. She's still my baby's mom.

Joe Rogan 4:10 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 4:11 But she has another baby on the way in her new relationship, but she's able to take, uh, CBD during her pregnancy to help her, uh-

Joe Rogan 4:18 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 4:19 ... her nausea and all of that stuff.

Joe Rogan 4:20 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 4:21 So it's like, why would you hate on CBD, bro?

Joe Rogan 4:22 No, it's amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 4:23 It's the shit. It's-

Joe Rogan 4:24 My friend's son has some seizures. He has, like-

Wiz Khalifa 4:26 Mmm.

Joe Rogan 4:26 ... some sort of epileptic seizure.

Wiz Khalifa 4:28 Mmm. Mmm.

Joe Rogan 4:28 Give him CBD, it's gone.

Wiz Khalifa 4:30 That's amazing, man.

Joe Rogan 4:30 Gives it every day, he doesn't have them anymore.

Wiz Khalifa 4:31 That's amazing. I love that, though.

Joe Rogan 4:32 It's incredible. It's-

Wiz Khalifa 4:33 That's so good.

Joe Rogan 4:34 It's almost, you feel like you're lying.

Wiz Khalifa 4:36 Right.

Joe Rogan 4:36 It does so many different things-

Wiz Khalifa 4:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 4:38 ... that when you talk about weed, you feel like you're lying.

Wiz Khalifa 4:40 Yeah. I mean, like, these days, in this day and age, I was just telling somebody the other day, smoking pot is gonna be old school, like, you know what I mean? We're still gonna do it, but it's totally moving towards just ingesting it and-

Joe Rogan 4:53 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 4:53 ... rubbing it on and all that shit, so people-

Joe Rogan 4:54 Sprays.

Wiz Khalifa 4:55 Yeah, so people are less scared-

Joe Rogan 4:57 Tinctures.

Wiz Khalifa 4:57 ... of it, and it works, like ...

Joe Rogan 4:58 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 4:58 Like, fuck, like, you know what I mean? The shit-

Joe Rogan 5:01 The thing about the edibles though, it puts you in a weird place if you get too much.

Wiz Khalifa 5:04 Yeah, yep. Yep.

Joe Rogan 5:04 I've seen some people melt down.

Wiz Khalifa 5:06 Yo, edibles are crazy. So I got a homie who just took a (laughs) THC pill yesterday and he was talking all types of shit, like he was gonna be awake.

Joe Rogan 5:14 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 5:14 That shit knocked him out. He's probably still asleep, like ... Yeah, the edibles fuck you up.

Joe Rogan 5:19 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 5:19 You do edibles?

Joe Rogan 5:20 Yeah, I do, but-

Wiz Khalifa 5:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:21 I- I've had some bad experiences. Like, someone thr-

Wiz Khalifa 5:24 For real?

Joe Rogan 5:24 Not bad, but, like, (psh) like, completely lost t- touch with this dimension.

Wiz Khalifa 5:29 Damn.

Joe Rogan 5:30 You know what I'm saying? Like, you-

Wiz Khalifa 5:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:31 Like, I had a friend who made THC pills.

Wiz Khalifa 5:33 Yep.

Joe Rogan 5:34 And I was taking them at a party once and it was a party for a jujitsu tournament.

Wiz Khalifa 5:38 Okay.

Joe Rogan 5:38 So, 'cause it was a jujitsu tournament and then there was this party afterwards, and, uh, by the time the pills had kicked in, I, I have no idea how much was in there, 'cause it was, like, some handmade shit that this guy put together himself-

Wiz Khalifa 5:47 Exactly, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:48 ... little capsules that you buy.

Wiz Khalifa 5:49 Right. Right, right, right, right.

Joe Rogan 5:50 It was as high as I've ever been in my life.

Wiz Khalifa 5:51 Yep.

Joe Rogan 5:51 Like, to the point where I wasn't even seeing people. I was seeing, like, a two-dimensional cutout of the person, and then behind them, I was seeing, like their true intention, their soul-

Wiz Khalifa 5:59 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:00 ... like, peeking out.

Wiz Khalifa 6:01 Yeah, yeah.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:01 I was really high.

Wiz Khalifa 6:02 Fuck.

Joe Rogan 6:03 And I was talking to this one dude, and he was just ... Uh, he's a, he was a high-level jujitsu guy who was r- he was really odd.

Wiz Khalifa 6:09 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 6:09 It was a very strange feeling I got talking to this cat.

Wiz Khalifa 6:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:12 And then, um, like, a month later he was on the run for rape. Yeah, he, uh, had raped some woman and then he escaped. And then he was o- so addicted to jujitsu, the story was that he started training again with a fake name. But he was, like, this high-level black belt, and there's only that, this ... Especially back then when this happened, this is like the early 2000s, there's only a certain number of high-level black belts that are running around.

Wiz Khalifa 6:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 6:38 So he put on this fake Brazilian name and started training in, like, the Pacific Northwest.

Wiz Khalifa 6:43 What the fuck?

Joe Rogan 6:44 And then, uh, but he's strangling black belts and everybody's like, "What the fuck is, who is this guy?"

Wiz Khalifa 6:47 Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 6:48 So people asked, and someone took a picture of him, and they go, "That guy's wanted for rape."

Wiz Khalifa 6:51 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 6:53 Yeah, but I remember talking to him on these THC pills being like, uh, like some ... "There's some wiring that's not correct here with this."

Wiz Khalifa 6:58 Oh, fuck.

Joe Rogan 7:00 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 7:00 Damn, dog.

Joe Rogan 7:01 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 7:02 That's in- ... Whoa.

Joe Rogan 7:03 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 7:04 (sighs) THC pills and ƒ-

Joe Rogan 7:07 Yeah, they expose things.

Wiz Khalifa 7:09 Yeah, they do, bro. I did mushrooms and they exposed a lot.

Joe Rogan 7:12 Woo.

Wiz Khalifa 7:12 Yeah, yep. Do you do 'shrooms?

Joe Rogan 7:13 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 7:14 Yeah, yep. I fuck with mushrooms 'cause-

Joe Rogan 7:16 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 7:16 ... that's what happened with me when I was on mushrooms. I was able to see people's true intentions.

Joe Rogan 7:21 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 7:21 'Cause being a rapper and shit like that, you know, you'd be having to peel back the layers.

Joe Rogan 7:26 Layers and layers and layers-

Wiz Khalifa 7:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 7:27 ... and crips.

Wiz Khalifa 7:27 And I was trying to peel my own layers back (laughs) just for my own-

Joe Rogan 7:31 Sure.

Wiz Khalifa 7:32 ... personal.

Joe Rogan 7:33 Everyone is, right?

Wiz Khalifa 7:33 And I ended up ... Yeah, yep. And I ended up being, like, backstage somewhere and I was like, "Fuck." I was like, "I'm around all these people and, like, I really see their true intentions." And then I was like, "I see what crowd they are," and it was like ... I felt like I was separated. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 7:48 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 7:48 And it was like ... I was on a boat all the way out here, and they were all on a, on a, all on an island partying, and then I was like, "Damn-"

Joe Rogan 7:55 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 7:56 "... I can see what's going on over there." But it was cool. It, uh, it h- ... I, like, m- ... I do mushrooms every now and then. I don't fuck with it all the time. I, I haven't done them in, like, three years 'cause they help you see shit like that. So it's like for me, I'll take that experience and I'll just live with it.

Joe Rogan 8:13 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 8:14 I don't need to keep going through it over and over. Like, you probably seen that dude and was like, "Oh, shit, now I know people who are rapey as- (laughs) as soon as I see them."

Joe Rogan 8:23 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 8:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:23 But I knew he was dangerous.

Wiz Khalifa 8:24 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 8:25 Like, he was a legitimately dangerous person. Like not just-

Wiz Khalifa 8:28 That's insane, bro.

Joe Rogan 8:29 Not just a trained killer, but he was dangerous, like, the way he thought about things.

Wiz Khalifa 8:32 Woo, that's wild.

Joe Rogan 8:34 Yeah, there's people like that out there.

Wiz Khalifa 8:35 Yeah, yep.

Joe Rogan 8:35 I mean, you, you, you, you don't know until you experience it, and that was a mild experience compared to most people's-

Wiz Khalifa 8:42 Bro.

Joe Rogan 8:42 ... encounters. There's a lot of-

Wiz Khalifa 8:43 THC.

Joe Rogan 8:43 ... psychos out there.

Wiz Khalifa 8:44 It's fucking crazy motherfuckers, bro.

Joe Rogan 8:46 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 8:46 I know, I know just probably in fighting too, that's why I feel like more people need to, like, smoke weed and-

Joe Rogan 8:52 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 8:52 ... and train.

Joe Rogan 8:53 I think so too.

Wiz Khalifa 8:53 'Cause it balances (laughs) it.

Joe Rogan 8:55 The training is great, man.

Wiz Khalifa 8:56 Yeah, yep.

Joe Rogan 8:56 It, it alleviates all that shit with-

Wiz Khalifa 8:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:58 ... most people.

Wiz Khalifa 8:59 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 9:00 But there's gonna be some dudes just like that guy that are just, they're just out there.

Wiz Khalifa 9:03 Yeah, they're taking it to that level, like-

Joe Rogan 9:05 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 9:06 Yeah, yep. That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 9:08 When you think about the world of fighting and competition, I mean, you're dealing with people that are taking the biggest risks. They don't, they don't have to do that.

Wiz Khalifa 9:15 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:15 This is, like, a choice.

Wiz Khalifa 9:17 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:17 They could get a job. The choice is, I wanna get a job trying to fuck up other people-

Wiz Khalifa 9:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:22 ... who have a job trying to fuck up people.

Wiz Khalifa 9:23 (exhales)

Joe Rogan 9:24 The killers, the trained killers just going after each other.

Wiz Khalifa 9:26 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 9:27 And when you're around those dudes, one of the things you w- ... One of the things you realize very early on, you ha- ... You can have your preconceived notions about them being, like, m- like, mean people or-

Wiz Khalifa 9:35 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 9:35 ... violent people.

Wiz Khalifa 9:36 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:37 They're people of character.

Wiz Khalifa 9:38 Yes, sir.

Joe Rogan 9:38 You have to have extreme character to pull off what they do.

Wiz Khalifa 9:41 Yeah, yep.

Joe Rogan 9:41 And some of the best people I've ever met in my life are fighters.

Wiz Khalifa 9:43 Yeah, yep, yep.

Joe Rogan 9:44 They, they're, they're a different breed of human being.

Wiz Khalifa 9:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:47 They chose that path. They chose it. No one's-

Wiz Khalifa 9:49 Yep.

Joe Rogan 9:49 No one's forcing 'em. We're not in war.

Wiz Khalifa 9:51 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:52 They decide to go and do that, and like-

Wiz Khalifa 9:53 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 9:54 ... "Oof." That's why it's so exciting to watch, right?

Wiz Khalifa 9:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:57 'Cause you know that they're putting everything on the line.

Wiz Khalifa 9:59 Right. I look at like, like you said, they, they chose that, so-

Joe Rogan 10:03 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 10:03 ... to become an athlete, to, to choose to fight, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 10:08 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 10:08 Like ... And a lot of 'em are really, like you said, smart and they're technical and e-

Joe Rogan 10:12 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 10:12 ... especially how the sport is developing these days 'cause people don't want the long-term damage but they wanna still, like, you know what I mean? Go hard, so-

Joe Rogan 10:21 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 10:22 They're coming up with fucking all types of ways to do this shit, and it's like at the end of the day you have to be a creative or you have to have some type of something up here. You know what I mean? You're not just fighting to be fighting, you know?

Joe Rogan 10:35 Right.

Wiz Khalifa 10:35 So, yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:36 Yeah, I think they all going in to, for the same reason. They all ... They're, they're trying to find out if they can do it, right? In the beginning.

Wiz Khalifa 10:40 Yeah, yep.

Joe Rogan 10:40 And then they have a, a, just a drive to prove that they're the best.

Wiz Khalifa 10:44 Right. I was just talking to somebody the other day about that. Um, w- ... It was, like (laughs) a crazy argument because they were saying how fight fans are just there for knockouts. And I was like, "You definitely have your, your knockout fans." I was like, "Those probably are people who pay the most." You know what I mean? It's like ... But y- ... I was like, "You gotta give credit to a lot of people who understand fighting and love it and are viewing it for that aspect."

Joe Rogan 11:10 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 11:10 It was like, you know when you wa- you watch football, like, a lot of people played football and, you know, wished they could've been that person on the field, they just haven't ... You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 11:19 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 11:20 So I was trying to explain to 'em, I was like, "There's a huge crowd of people who actually know about this shit and who are knowledgeable," and those people support it as well. It was weird.

Joe Rogan 11:28 Yeah, I, I, I feel you. I know exactly what you're saying.

Wiz Khalifa 11:31 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:31 There's some people that just wanna see people get beat up, and some people that wanna see Floyd Mayweather duck punches.

Wiz Khalifa 11:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:37 You know, one of the best things about Floyd Mayweather and Canelo wasn't that Floyd beat Canelo up.

Wiz Khalifa 11:42 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:43 He out-boxed him.

Wiz Khalifa 11:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:44 But he showed this level of defense.

Wiz Khalifa 11:46 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:46 If you're a boxing fan-

Wiz Khalifa 11:47 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:48 ... you're like, "Jesus Christ."

Wiz Khalifa 11:49 Yep.

Joe Rogan 11:49 Like, "He knows everything that's coming."

Wiz Khalifa 11:51 Yep.

Joe Rogan 11:51 He's always in the right angle.

Wiz Khalifa 11:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:53 He's always one step ahead.

Wiz Khalifa 11:54 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 11:55 And that's why he's so good.

Wiz Khalifa 11:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:56 'Cause d- his defense is... I mean, he, Floyd's only been hit, like, a few times-

Wiz Khalifa 12:00 Right.

Joe Rogan 12:00 ... his whole career.

Wiz Khalifa 12:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 12:01 Like, really hard.

Wiz Khalifa 12:02 See?

Joe Rogan 12:02 Like, Shane hit him a couple times. Uh, was it Maidana?

Wiz Khalifa 12:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:06 Maidana hit him-

Wiz Khalifa 12:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:07 ... really hard once.

Wiz Khalifa 12:08 And they fucking, like, save the clip and play it over and over.

Joe Rogan 12:10 Over and over again. (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 12:11 (laughs) 'Cause it's, like, so cool.

Joe Rogan 12:13 He c- he can be hit.

Wiz Khalifa 12:14 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:15 Really.

Wiz Khalifa 12:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:15 You think about other boxers, how much they get hit-

Wiz Khalifa 12:17 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 12:17 ... and compared to Floyd. I love watching that.

Wiz Khalifa 12:19 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 12:20 I love, love watching someone who can move like that.

Wiz Khalifa 12:21 Right, right, right.

Joe Rogan 12:22 Like, my favorite fighter to watch in the UFC was Mighty Mouse.

Wiz Khalifa 12:25 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 12:25 Not just because he was the best pound-for-pound fighter on the planet, but because he was not getting hit.

Wiz Khalifa 12:31 Right.

Joe Rogan 12:32 He was, uh, occasionally someone would ta- like John Mayorga tagged him with a straight left.

Wiz Khalifa 12:35 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 12:36 Occasionally some guys hit him.

Wiz Khalifa 12:37 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 12:38 But most times things are just grazing.

Wiz Khalifa 12:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:40 Most time things are getting blocked-

Wiz Khalifa 12:41 Right, right, right.

Joe Rogan 12:42 ... and even if he gets hit, he's moving.

Wiz Khalifa 12:43 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 12:44 It's a, he's is a puzzle.

Wiz Khalifa 12:46 Right.

Joe Rogan 12:46 Like, if you're a fan of martial arts, you wanna see-

Wiz Khalifa 12:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 12:49 ... the master of the puzzle.

Wiz Khalifa 12:50 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 12:51 You know?

Wiz Khalifa 12:51 Yeah, hell yeah. And I don't, um, I don't count them people out. And I wouldn't fucking sit in front of a dude and let him just be like, "Oh, yeah. Everybody wanna see knockouts." I'm like, "Nah, bro." Like, it's not like that, fam.

Joe Rogan 13:03 I s- we, I think everybody likes both things, though.

Wiz Khalifa 13:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:05 It's like when you get, like, Arturo Gatti versus Micky Ward.

Wiz Khalifa 13:08 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:08 Did you ever see that fight?

Wiz Khalifa 13:09 Uh, I would have to go back.

Joe Rogan 13:11 It was a trilo- it was a trilogy of fucking wars-

Wiz Khalifa 13:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:13 ... between these two guys that were not champion. They were, they were like one step below, at the time of their career, of being, like, championship level.

Wiz Khalifa 13:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 13:21 So they weren't, like, in threat of fighting for the title. No one thought they were ... Like, Floyd was better than both of them by far.

Wiz Khalifa 13:27 Right.

Joe Rogan 13:28 But what they were doing was showing that two guys that are similarly talented can put on, like, the most entertaining fight in the world.

Wiz Khalifa 13:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:36 It was incredible.

Wiz Khalifa 13:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:36 It was crazy to watch.

Wiz Khalifa 13:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:37 It was just a war, back and forth and back and forth. I like watching that too.

Wiz Khalifa 13:41 Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 13:41 You know?

Wiz Khalifa 13:42 Yeah. I wanna see a good fight, me personally, always.

Joe Rogan 13:44 I like watching both things. I like watching someone just completely willie pep somebody.

Wiz Khalifa 13:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:49 Just, just ... Like Pernell Whitaker used to do.

Wiz Khalifa 13:51 Yeah, yup. He was a great boxer.

Joe Rogan 13:53 He couldn't hit him.

Wiz Khalifa 13:54 Nope.

Joe Rogan 13:54 He was so slick.

Wiz Khalifa 13:55 Nope.

Joe Rogan 13:56 You know, and you can only do that for so long, like, in, in any sport.

Wiz Khalifa 13:59 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:59 You can only be at the top for so long.

Wiz Khalifa 14:00 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:00 But if you watch those performances when those guys were at the top, that shows you what's possible.

Wiz Khalifa 14:05 Hell yeah. And it's just good to see somebody, like, master their craft too.

Joe Rogan 14:08 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 14:09 'Cause you see them come up. Like, you watch them be all right, and then it's like they become the shit. And it's like, "Oh, yeah, like..." You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 14:15 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 14:15 I seen this dude, like, start from just being okay, and now he's just fucking shit up. You see him learn, and you see him develop-

Joe Rogan 14:22 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 14:22 ... and all of that stuff. It's fun. Like, you grow with him.

Joe Rogan 14:25 That's a good combination of getting to the bottom of shit, is weed and martial arts.

Wiz Khalifa 14:29 Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 14:30 That's a good combination.

Wiz Khalifa 14:31 100%.

Joe Rogan 14:32 It really is.

Wiz Khalifa 14:33 I do ... Like, a lot of my thinking is just from, like, after I train, I just sit there and just think about nothing but ... You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 14:42 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 14:43 Ideas come to me. How to deal with situations, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 14:47 Right.

Wiz Khalifa 14:47 Because it just ... I don't know. It just happens like that. It just flows.

Joe Rogan 14:50 Yeah. Yeah, it flows.

Wiz Khalifa 14:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 14:52 And I think, like, the training helps you get all the bullshit off your back.

Wiz Khalifa 14:56 Right. Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:57 Right?

Wiz Khalifa 14:58 Yeah, yup. Especially for me too, 'cause like, I party a lot.

Joe Rogan 15:02 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 15:02 And I'm in the studio till, like, 5:00, 6:00 in the morning, and I'm drinking and stuff like that. So, to just be going down that path and doing that every day, bro, I look crazy. I feel crazy. (laughs) Like-

Joe Rogan 15:14 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 15:14 ... I have to get that off of me, like, out of me. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 15:18 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 15:18 That's why your gym is crazy, bro. I need to do something like that for myself.

Joe Rogan 15:22 It's nice to have a place.

Wiz Khalifa 15:23 At some point. Like, that's how I look at you, like the OG. So it's like, I'm not going to go do it tomorrow, like, "Hey, everybody build me a gym."

Joe Rogan 15:29 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 15:30 But, you know, eventually, that's the goal. When I look back, I'll be like, "I seen Joe's gym and that's, that's what made me."

Joe Rogan 15:36 Well, dude, you train hard. I've seen your videos.

Wiz Khalifa 15:38 Yeah, I w- I w- I, I get to work.

Joe Rogan 15:40 You, you work out at Unbreakable?

Wiz Khalifa 15:41 Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 15:41 Is that, that your spot?

Wiz Khalifa 15:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 15:42 Yeah, that's a great gym.

Wiz Khalifa 15:43 It is a really good gym. Uh, Jay Glazer-

Joe Rogan 15:46 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 15:47 ... he, he owns that spot and, um-

Joe Rogan 15:48 Very, very impressive place. He put together an awesome place.

Wiz Khalifa 15:51 Yeah, yeah. It's cool. The, the team there is good. Um, like I said, it's not all about, like, just fighting and being, you know, the biggest, baddest, meanest motherfucker. Like, they really tea- taught me about my body.

Joe Rogan 16:03 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 16:03 They, that's what they do. They teach you there. Whatever your goals are, they bring you, you know, up to that speed. So it's like, I weighed like 140 pounds ever since I got out of high school. And I was like, "Fuck, I gotta gain some weight." And they helped me out.

Joe Rogan 16:17 And s- doesn't Snoop train there too?

Wiz Khalifa 16:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:19 There's this video of Snoop sparring. He's sparring Daniel Sarrafian.

Wiz Khalifa 16:23 Yeah. Daniel's fucking crazy. You ever met that dude? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:25 He's a beast. Yeah, I know that guy.

Wiz Khalifa 16:27 (laughs) Yeah, yo, Daniel is crazy.

Joe Rogan 16:27 I've called his fights before.

Wiz Khalifa 16:29 Daniel-

Joe Rogan 16:29 He's a tank.

Wiz Khalifa 16:29 He is crazy. He love-

Joe Rogan 16:31 That guy's a tank.

Wiz Khalifa 16:31 ... nuts. His thing is like, "Yo, I gotta get hit." Pshhh. I'm like, "All right, Daniel." You know?

Joe Rogan 16:38 He's gotta get hit to wake himself up?

Wiz Khalifa 16:39 Yeah, go ahead.

Joe Rogan 16:40 Wow. The- there is-

Wiz Khalifa 16:41 Take those hits, Danny.

Joe Rogan 16:41 There's Snoop sparring with him.

Wiz Khalifa 16:43 Yeah, and Snoop-

Joe Rogan 16:44 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 16:44 ... was going at it too. He was trying to take him out.

Joe Rogan 16:46 Dude, Snoop throws some good shots, man.

Wiz Khalifa 16:47 Oh, that's them right there.

Joe Rogan 16:48 Yeah, Snoop's got-

Wiz Khalifa 16:49 Uh.

Joe Rogan 16:49 ... skills. He really does.

Wiz Khalifa 16:50 I'm glad Daniel ducked that one. Uh, uh.

Joe Rogan 16:53 Yeah, I mean, look-

Wiz Khalifa 16:54 Get him, Snoop. Oh.

Joe Rogan 16:55 I guarantee you Snoop would fuck up-

Wiz Khalifa 16:56 Look, that's funny right there.

Joe Rogan 16:57 ... a lot of people-

Wiz Khalifa 16:57 Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 16:57 ... in a regular fistfight.

Wiz Khalifa 16:58 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:59 He's tall as shit too. Look at him.

Wiz Khalifa 17:00 Coming at him like that. Look at those arms.

Joe Rogan 17:03 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 17:05 Bip. Bip. Uh. (laughs) You get that-

Joe Rogan 17:07 Look at that.

Wiz Khalifa 17:08 Go ahead, Snoop.

Joe Rogan 17:10 So that was S-

Wiz Khalifa 17:10 What the fuck did I think I was fighting?

Joe Rogan 17:11 (laughs) That's Sarrafian. That guy's a tank.

Wiz Khalifa 17:15 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:16 Yeah, he fought in the UFC for a while.

Wiz Khalifa 17:17 There you go.

Joe Rogan 17:17 He's still fighting. He's still active.

Wiz Khalifa 17:19 Yeah, I think he's in Brazil right now.

Joe Rogan 17:20 Is he?

Wiz Khalifa 17:21 Yeah, yup. He was working at the gym for a minute, then he, uh, I guess he chilled out.

Joe Rogan 17:25 Yeah, it's, uh, it's ... Anyway, my, my point was the videos, it's nice to see 'cause you're training hard.

Wiz Khalifa 17:30 Thanks.

Joe Rogan 17:30 Like, I'm watching you doing Muay Thai-

Wiz Khalifa 17:32 Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 17:32 ... and hit the pads.

Wiz Khalifa 17:33 Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 17:33 I'm like, "Dude, you're, you're really putting in work on this."

Wiz Khalifa 17:35 Yes, sir. Yeah, yeah. It's an everyday thing. It's a journey, like, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 17:39 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 17:39 I'm just trying to learn (clears throat) Ernie (clears throat) Ernie Reyes is my, uh... Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 17:44 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 17:44 That's Saenchai right there. That was fun.

Joe Rogan 17:47 Damn, Snoop.

Wiz Khalifa 17:48 He was teaching me some stuff.

Joe Rogan 17:51 Wow.

Wiz Khalifa 17:51 That was early, though. I suck right there. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:54 Still, though. Dude, you are sparring right there with one of the greatest Muay Thai fighters, if not the greatest of all time.

Wiz Khalifa 17:59 Yeah, that dude is super tight.

Joe Rogan 18:00 He's amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 18:01 Yeah. He's really good.

Joe Rogan 18:02 His videos, like the highlights he does.

Wiz Khalifa 18:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:04 You ever see that, that jumping left switch kick-

Wiz Khalifa 18:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:07 ... he knocked that dude out with? It's like, "Woo!"

Wiz Khalifa 18:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:10 He's outstanding.

Wiz Khalifa 18:11 He got some crazy kicks.

Joe Rogan 18:12 So how cool is that, man? You, you're sparring-

Wiz Khalifa 18:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:15 ... with one of the greatest of all time.

Wiz Khalifa 18:16 It's fun as fuck, (clears throat) 'cause like those people... Like, you know about fighters. They're, the majority, like you said, when you meet them, they, they're cool as hell.

Joe Rogan 18:25 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 18:26 Like... So to meet him and him not wanna whoop my ass or, like, tell me-

Joe Rogan 18:29 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 18:29 ... "Hey, you look goofy. Sit down." (laughs) He's, like, showing me shit that I could use later, so it was like... It was cool.

Joe Rogan 18:36 Well, the Thais have a really interesting way of sparring.

Wiz Khalifa 18:38 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:39 Some of them do. They play.

Wiz Khalifa 18:40 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:41 They don't hit each other full-blast.

Wiz Khalifa 18:42 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 18:42 They, like, tap and they laugh around and joke around.

Wiz Khalifa 18:44 Yep.

Joe Rogan 18:45 They're just developing their timing-

Wiz Khalifa 18:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:46 ... 'cause they fight so often.

Wiz Khalifa 18:47 Yep.

Joe Rogan 18:48 John Wayne Parr is a friend of mine from Australia, multiple time world champion.

Wiz Khalifa 18:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:53 And, uh, you know, he would, uh, talk in-depth about how they would play. They just play.

Wiz Khalifa 18:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:58 They just hit each other, just slap each other a little bit.

Wiz Khalifa 19:00 Yep.

Joe Rogan 19:00 And then you... Like that way, they, they get, understand the timing of it-

Wiz Khalifa 19:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 19:03 ... but they never worry about it.

Wiz Khalifa 19:05 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 19:05 They don't get hurt.

Wiz Khalifa 19:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 19:06 And they can do it all the time.

Wiz Khalifa 19:07 Mm-hmm. I've seen it.

Joe Rogan 19:08 It's a really smart way to do it.

Wiz Khalifa 19:09 Yep.

Joe Rogan 19:09 But you'll see guys like Sarafian, and he's capable of doing that.

Wiz Khalifa 19:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 19:12 You know, like, he... So he could spar with a guy like Snoop or a guy like Saenchai could spar with a guy like you-

Wiz Khalifa 19:16 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 19:16 ... and just play with you.

Wiz Khalifa 19:17 Right.

Joe Rogan 19:17 Where everybody just have a good time and it's fun at the end.

Wiz Khalifa 19:19 Yep. Super fun.

Joe Rogan 19:20 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 19:20 Yep, yep. Hell yeah. Definitely seen that a lot, like on Instagram. And even with my trainers, we'll do it. Like, me and Ernie, we was just doing that yesterday, where it was like developing the timing of the kicks, where it's like you kick me, I kick you, I kick you, you kick me, I kick you twice, you kick me three times, I kick you once. Like you said, just playing around.

Joe Rogan 19:40 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 19:41 And, like, when you got a good sparring partner, you take care of each other.

Joe Rogan 19:44 Exactly.

Wiz Khalifa 19:44 You don't hurt each other.

Joe Rogan 19:45 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 19:45 There's no ego i- involved. And the Thais, they do, like, knees... They'll, they'll knee the fuck out of (laughs) each other.

Joe Rogan 19:52 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 19:52 Like, it looks like kinda hard, but they're just making their bodies harder f-

Joe Rogan 19:56 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 19:56 ... like you said, for later-

Joe Rogan 19:57 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 19:57 ... 'cause it's like they're used to it.

Joe Rogan 19:59 A lot of times, they'll slap each other with the side of their leg, too-

Wiz Khalifa 20:02 Right. (imitates slapping)

Joe Rogan 20:02 ... rather than, like, really drive the knee in.

Wiz Khalifa 20:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:04 So-

Wiz Khalifa 20:04 You just hear a smack. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:05 Yeah. They're just slapping each other a little bit.

Wiz Khalifa 20:07 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:08 But that's, it's... Obviously, it's very effective. Like, they figured something out.

Wiz Khalifa 20:12 You got some crazy kicks.

Joe Rogan 20:14 Thank you.

Wiz Khalifa 20:14 Yeah. I seen, uh, what was it? A side kick that you did?

Joe Rogan 20:18 Probably turning side kicks.

Wiz Khalifa 20:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:20 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 20:20 Yeah, you gotta teach me that.

Joe Rogan 20:21 I'll teach you that.

Wiz Khalifa 20:21 Yeah. I want the-

Joe Rogan 20:22 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 20:22 I just need the form, 'cause I'm learning just a regular side kick, like a slide or, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 20:26 You should go to, like, a Taekwondo school. They'd be the best at showing you how to do it.

Wiz Khalifa 20:29 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:29 I'll definitely show you how, but-

Wiz Khalifa 20:31 Yep.

Joe Rogan 20:31 ... if you need a place to train, find, like, a really good Taekwondo school.

Wiz Khalifa 20:34 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:34 'Cause one thing, Taekwondo has some things that, you know, won't work in MMA if you're y- adding take-downs and-

Wiz Khalifa 20:41 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:41 ... punches to the face, but because they don't punch to the face in tournaments-

Wiz Khalifa 20:44 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:44 ... you get used to doing crazy kicks.

Wiz Khalifa 20:46 Crazy-ass kicks. Creative.

Joe Rogan 20:47 So they have a lot of weird d- a lot of weird leg dexterity stuff.

Wiz Khalifa 20:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:51 And if you get good at that stuff, I think that's... Like, if I had a kid that wanted to fight, I would say, "Let's just do some, um, Kyokushin or some Taekwondo first."

Wiz Khalifa 20:59 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:59 "Just do some karate, something where you, you're developing leg dexterity."

Wiz Khalifa 21:02 Yeah. Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:03 Then, as you get a little older, then move you into Muay Thai."

Wiz Khalifa 21:06 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 21:06 So you could do both things.

Wiz Khalifa 21:07 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:08 Because if someone's con... Y- when guys are, like, constantly chomping at the legs, they never really develop the kind of spinning kicks-

Wiz Khalifa 21:15 Right.

Joe Rogan 21:15 ... that the guys do where they don't kick the legs.

Wiz Khalifa 21:16 Right.

Joe Rogan 21:17 Those are the guys that develop the best spinning kicks 'cause it's just so easy to chop the legs and effective-

Wiz Khalifa 21:21 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:21 ... to chop the legs out.

Wiz Khalifa 21:22 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:23 So a lot of those techniques don't really get d- dialed in to the level that they get dialed in from a Taekwondo guy.

Wiz Khalifa 21:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:28 'Cause they can't kick each other in the legs.

Wiz Khalifa 21:30 Right, right, right, right.

Joe Rogan 21:31 It's kind of a dumb way to fight, 'cause you should kick the legs, but at the end of the day, it, it allowed them to develop some crazy shit.

Wiz Khalifa 21:38 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 21:39 A lot of weird spinning stuff.

Wiz Khalifa 21:41 Spinning like a motherfucker. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:41 You know, you don't see... It's fast as shit, man.

Wiz Khalifa 21:44 Yeah, super-fast.

Joe Rogan 21:44 Some of those guys are so fast.

Wiz Khalifa 21:45 Yeah, yep.

Joe Rogan 21:46 And the power's insane.

Wiz Khalifa 21:47 Yeah, yeah, 'cause it's all momentum-

Joe Rogan 21:49 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 21:49 ... and torque and-

Joe Rogan 21:50 Oh.

Wiz Khalifa 21:50 ... crazy shit.

Joe Rogan 21:51 But it's just, it's hard to develop.

Wiz Khalifa 21:53 Right.

Joe Rogan 21:54 It's hard to develop those techniques where guys are kicking legs.

Wiz Khalifa 21:55 It's, like, a lot of po- the posture and you gotta really-

Joe Rogan 21:57 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 21:58 You gotta be balanced and you gotta... That knee is everything, right?

Joe Rogan 22:01 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 22:01 Like, you gotta... That shit how you aim it, so it's like when you're spinning or even if you're just standing there, you have to have correct posture-

Joe Rogan 22:09 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 22:09 ... to be able to do a couple kicks. Like you said, it's like a lot... You're going ch- ch- ch- ch- ch- ch- coming at somebody, spinning, blitzing-

Joe Rogan 22:17 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 22:17 ... doing all types of shit, so it's different for sure.

Joe Rogan 22:20 It's really good for your balance, too.

Wiz Khalifa 22:22 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 22:22 You do that as a young kid, then learn some other shit later.

Wiz Khalifa 22:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 22:26 You'll have balance.

Wiz Khalifa 22:27 Yeah. That's what I seen when you kicked the fuck out of that shit. I was like, "Yo, that's, like, really balanced and straight." Like, you know what I mean? The, the tech... 'Cause a lot of people... All right, you might be strong as fuck, but you could see technique.

Joe Rogan 22:39 Right, right, right.

Wiz Khalifa 22:40 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 22:40 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 22:40 And then if you do the shit over and over and over and really perfect it, that's different than just being able to throw a strong kick.

Joe Rogan 22:48 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 22:49 You feel me? Yep.

Joe Rogan 22:49 Yeah. Um, technique's everything, man.

Wiz Khalifa 22:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 22:52 It's, uh, that way in jujitsu, it's that way in... Um, g- it's gotta be that way in music.

Wiz Khalifa 22:55 Right.

Joe Rogan 22:55 It's gotta be that way in everything.

Wiz Khalifa 22:57 Yeah, definitely, man. I'm in the studio, like, all the time practicing. Like, I could write a song before this interview is over, but that's because I practice, you know?

Joe Rogan 23:07 Hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 23:07 It's not because, like, I'm the most lyrical person in the world. It's like I just fucking rap every day, like (laughs) you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 23:14 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 23:14 So it should come easy, so, but-

Joe Rogan 23:17 When, when you write, do you write things out or do you, do you do it out in your head?

Wiz Khalifa 23:22 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 23:23 Like, I know Jay-Z supposedly doesn't write anything, right?

Wiz Khalifa 23:25 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 23:25 He just keeps it all in his head-

Wiz Khalifa 23:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:27 ... which is incredible-

Wiz Khalifa 23:28 It's awesome.

Joe Rogan 23:29 ... that he can do that.

Wiz Khalifa 23:30 Right.

Joe Rogan 23:30 It's kind of in- insane.

Wiz Khalifa 23:32 Yeah, yeah. Yep. I have, I have different processes. So, like, for me, I kinda... I, I have melodies. Like, I'll sing and I'll rap. So it's a lot easier for me to just have a melody in my head and make up the words as I go. But if I'm writing lyrics, like writing words down where I actually rap it-... that's when I'm gonna use the paper, you know?

Joe Rogan 23:53 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 23:54 But there's different ways to do it, 'cause I- honestly, this is what my studio setup looks like. It's like a chair. The mic is right here. I don't go in the booth or anything, and my engineer's sitting right there. So, it's like we're, we're coming up with it as w- as we go, like...

Joe Rogan 24:08 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 24:08 I'll take a little break, just write something down, and then I'll just jump, jump straight back on it. You know what I mean? So, it, there's different techniques, though, 'cause a lot of the time, sometimes I won't write shit. I'll just go and just make it up and just keep going, keep flowing, or there's times where I could just lay a melody and then write the words to it later. So, it's just different, you know, ways to approach it.

Joe Rogan 24:31 So, you just do it based on however you feel that day?

Wiz Khalifa 24:33 Mm-hmm. Whatever the track really calls for. It's like, if, if the song is something that I get instant inspiration, I'm like, "Oh, I'm gonna knock it out right now." Or if something that I wanna live with for a little bit, I'll just do as much as I'm happy with at that point, and then move on to the next thing.

Joe Rogan 24:50 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 24:50 Come back to it later and just make sure everything is fresh. I like to keep everything fresh, keep it fun, keep it loose, and I don't really overthink anything. If it's not there, then I just go, go away from it and find something that's more fun. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:05 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 25:05 Hell, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:07 That's a, it's a beautiful freedom to be able-

Wiz Khalifa 25:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:09 ... to do that.

Wiz Khalifa 25:09 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 25:10 You know?

Wiz Khalifa 25:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:10 Y- you obviously picked the right fucking job.

Wiz Khalifa 25:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:15 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 25:15 (laughs) I swear, like, you know, it's, it's, uh, it's work because I, I'm always looking for what's next, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 25:22 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 25:22 For the fans, for the listeners, for the people who supported me all the way to this point.

Joe Rogan 25:27 Right.

Wiz Khalifa 25:27 I'm like, "Okay, I gotta push myself. I gotta do what's next. I gotta-"

Joe Rogan 25:30 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 25:31 ... "It's gotta be crazy." You know what I mean? I got a son. He's six. So, it's like, I gotta impress him. I can't have him just listening to a whole bunch of other rappers and not my music.

Joe Rogan 25:39 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 25:39 So it's like, yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:42 Yeah. It's, uh ... Y- y- you know, y- it is a interesting responsibility you have, right?

Wiz Khalifa 25:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:50 Yeah. When a guy like you becomes famous, it's an interesting ... Like, you have so many people that want you now. And I think we need to call it a different thing other than work.

Wiz Khalifa 25:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:00 'Cause it's like, there's work, like, "Fuck, I work for UPS."

Wiz Khalifa 26:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:03 Yeah, that's cool. They got g- good benefits.

Wiz Khalifa 26:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 26:05 But that's work.

Wiz Khalifa 26:05 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:05 But what you're doing is like, you love it.

Wiz Khalifa 26:08 Yeah. Hell, yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:09 You know, when you love something-

Wiz Khalifa 26:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:10 ... it almost ... We need a better word.

Wiz Khalifa 26:12 Yeah, for sure.

Joe Rogan 26:12 That it's the same word as working at McDonald's.

Wiz Khalifa 26:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:15 The same word, work.

Wiz Khalifa 26:16 Y- work, uh ... I don't know-

Joe Rogan 26:18 Working.

Wiz Khalifa 26:18 ... what the word would be.

Joe Rogan 26:19 We need a better word-

Wiz Khalifa 26:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:20 ... for, like, a passion project.

Wiz Khalifa 26:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:22 For, like, being able to do what you wanna do.

Wiz Khalifa 26:24 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 26:25 Whatever that thing is.

Wiz Khalifa 26:26 Yeah, yup. No, I believe that. That's, that's a good point, 'cause it's not the same work. It's not the same thing.

Joe Rogan 26:32 No, it's not the same thing. We need to de-

Wiz Khalifa 26:33 We've done our-

Joe Rogan 26:34 ... we need a better word.

Wiz Khalifa 26:34 ... we put in the work.

Joe Rogan 26:35 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 26:36 Yeah, that's why we're here.

Joe Rogan 26:36 If you had a shit job i- in your life, you know what that is. That's work.

Wiz Khalifa 26:39 Yeah, we put in the work. We've done that.

Joe Rogan 26:41 But saying, "I'm going to work," when you're going to do something you love, you're excited about-

Wiz Khalifa 26:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:46 ... it's ... We need a better word.

Wiz Khalifa 26:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:49 That's what I think.

Wiz Khalifa 26:50 No, it's true.

Joe Rogan 26:50 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 26:50 That's why people get pissed at me. "You're not going to work. You're ... Y- there's a hundred girls there."

Joe Rogan 26:55 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 26:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:58 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 27:01 It's not work for you?

Joe Rogan 27:02 All right, bro, I had to punch in just like you.

Wiz Khalifa 27:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:08 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 27:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:08 Yeah, in that sense, the world is just not fair.

Wiz Khalifa 27:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:11 You know? Some people's jobs are not the same.

Wiz Khalifa 27:14 Yeah, I mean, fuck. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:16 Do you stop and think about how f- fortunate you are?

Wiz Khalifa 27:18 Yeah, yup. Yeah, I thank God every day, bro.

Joe Rogan 27:21 Beautiful.

Wiz Khalifa 27:22 All the time, 'cause it is, it is a blessing. I'm literally like ... Last night, I'm, like, writing a song, and the only problem that I had was, like, a girl's ass was right on me.

Joe Rogan 27:33 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 27:33 (laughs) And I was like, "Baby, like, I- I'm enjoying this as much as you are, but I gotta, like, physically write." So it's like, your ass is, like, m- moving my arm around. Like, "You can do that, but just right there." You know what I mean? Like ... And then e- and I started thinking to myself, like, "Wow, these are my problems." Like-

Joe Rogan 27:50 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 27:51 ... "That's cool. I'm happy with that."

Joe Rogan 27:51 Just need a little bit of discipline. (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 27:54 (laughs) I'm cool with that.

Joe Rogan 27:55 That's your own pro- you have no problems.

Wiz Khalifa 27:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:57 That's amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 27:58 Man, I'm cool with that.

Joe Rogan 27:59 Yeah, for sure. That's amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 28:00 I mean ... Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 28:01 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 28:02 And the song got written, so we-

Joe Rogan 28:04 Beautiful.

Wiz Khalifa 28:04 ... yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 28:05 Job got done.

Wiz Khalifa 28:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:08 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 28:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:08 Yeah, that's a, there's another word, right?

Wiz Khalifa 28:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:10 That is not work. You are not working. You're working, obviously, you're working at it, but it needs a better word.

Wiz Khalifa 28:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:17 A more, a nobler word.

Wiz Khalifa 28:19 The fans will come up with the word, for sure. They're way more creative-

Joe Rogan 28:22 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 28:22 ... and they got way more time on their hands.

Joe Rogan 28:24 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 28:24 They'll, they'll f-

Joe Rogan 28:24 I think they will.

Wiz Khalifa 28:25 They'll figure it out.

Joe Rogan 28:26 They'll figure it out.

Wiz Khalifa 28:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:27 Uh, and, and we'll report back.

Wiz Khalifa 28:28 For sure.

Joe Rogan 28:28 We'll find it.

Wiz Khalifa 28:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:30 I ... It just makes sense.

Wiz Khalifa 28:31 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 28:31 There's no way it's the same thing.

Wiz Khalifa 28:33 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 28:33 It can't be.

Wiz Khalifa 28:34 Nah. Hell nah. For sure. Nope.

Joe Rogan 28:38 Yeah, and that's why I always tell people, y- w- people always try to think down. They always try to think, "Man, that's easy for you to say," or, "Not everybody can make it." Yeah, you're right. Not everybody can.

Wiz Khalifa 28:48 Truth.

Joe Rogan 28:49 But maybe you can.

Wiz Khalifa 28:50 Right.

Joe Rogan 28:51 Like, what do you ... What does that mean, not everybody can?

Wiz Khalifa 28:52 Not everybody can.

Joe Rogan 28:53 Not everybody's gonna do everything.

Wiz Khalifa 28:54 Yeah, nah.

Joe Rogan 28:54 Not everybody's gonna walk to the top of the hill.

Wiz Khalifa 28:56 That's the thing.

Joe Rogan 28:57 Some people are gonna stop halfway and go, "I can't do it."

Wiz Khalifa 28:59 That's the thing. That's the thing.

Joe Rogan 29:00 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 29:00 People limit themselves in a crazy way. They're like, "Oh, yeah. Everybody can't do it." It's like you said, it's like, no, everybody can't do it. It takes a lot. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 29:09 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 29:10 You gotta fucking go through the shit to get it. But when you get there, it looks awesome, right? So-

Joe Rogan 29:15 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 29:16 ... yeah. I mean, fuck.

Joe Rogan 29:17 (laughs) Just whatever it is.

Wiz Khalifa 29:19 Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 29:19 Just try to figure it out and go do it.

Wiz Khalifa 29:21 Hell, yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:22 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 29:22 Hell, yeah. Like you said, the top of the hill looks great, but some people settle for the middle.

Joe Rogan 29:28 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 29:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:29 Yeah, and they get mad if people get to the top, "This motherfucker."

Wiz Khalifa 29:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:34 (laughs) You know? They get mad.

Wiz Khalifa 29:36 Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 29:37 At the top, man, b- i- l- there's no one who's like you who doesn't work hard.

Wiz Khalifa 29:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:42 Yeah.... so that's the myth, right?

Wiz Khalifa 29:43 That's the thing, too. It's like maintaining-

Joe Rogan 29:45 I mean, it's, again, the wrong word for it.

Wiz Khalifa 29:46 Right.

Joe Rogan 29:47 Passion hard, whatever it is.

Wiz Khalifa 29:48 Right, right, right, right. (laughs) I mean, you know-

Joe Rogan 29:50 Dedicated to your craft.

Wiz Khalifa 29:51 ... maintaining it is... There's an art to that, right? 'Cause you worked so freaking hard to get to where you're at. And then, you get there and it's like, "Oh, fuck. What do I do?" Like-

Joe Rogan 30:02 There's no rest.

Wiz Khalifa 30:03 There's no rest. And everything that was ac-, acceptable before, becomes unacceptable because now you're up here.

Joe Rogan 30:09 Ah.

Wiz Khalifa 30:10 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 30:11 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 30:11 So it's like, yeah, you have to, you have to, you have to pick your shots. And like, you know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 30:16 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 30:16 You can't really like just go crazy like you did back in the day. So there's an art to it, you know what I mean? And that's how you really maintain and stay in that spot, and even level up, you know?

Joe Rogan 30:27 So, do you consciously think, okay, uh, balance out enjoyment with things that I have to do to stay disciplined?

Wiz Khalifa 30:34 100%.

Joe Rogan 30:35 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 30:35 100%.

Joe Rogan 30:36 That's a very smart way of looking at it.

Wiz Khalifa 30:37 Yeah, yup, 100%. Like those, there has to be a balance of each because it's like, all right, now I'm at this new level, like whether I wanna behave like this or not, I put myself here. I worked hard, now I'm with these elite motherfuckers so this is the, this is how I have to act because I'm not down here anymore. I worked from here to get here.

Joe Rogan 31:00 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 31:01 So what happens? You balance, you put things into place, you do a little bit of this and a little bit of that instead of a lot of that.

Joe Rogan 31:09 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 31:09 You know what I mean? And you just pick your shots. And it's like, you're gonna get everything in the end. This is how it's just planned and how it's supposed to be, but you just piece it together just a little bit differently. Like I just turned 31. Well, damn, no, I'm about to be 32. That's young to a lot of people, that's old to some people as well. But for me, it's like, there's a whole new mind state, you know what I mean? And I feel like through my 20s, I was actually like a fucking teenager, and like now I'm (laughs) I'm an adult. So now I look at things a little bit differently as like, yo, I was really a kid. This is how you behave as an adult for the rest of your life. And it still involves a whole bunch of partying and having fun, but the business gets handled and things get approached totally differently.

Joe Rogan 31:59 That's a balanced way of looking at it, man.

Wiz Khalifa 32:01 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:01 I love it.

Wiz Khalifa 32:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:03 Enjoy it.

Wiz Khalifa 32:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:03 That's the other thing, too. Like people have to understand, to, to be someone like you, to be a, a very successful rapper-

Wiz Khalifa 32:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:14 ... and to not expect you to live the way you talk about all the time-

Wiz Khalifa 32:18 Right.

Joe Rogan 32:18 ... is so ridiculous.

Wiz Khalifa 32:19 Right. Right, right, right, right.

Joe Rogan 32:20 Like you don't think you, he wants to party? He's talking about partying all the time.

Wiz Khalifa 32:24 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 32:24 I think he wants to party.

Wiz Khalifa 32:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:25 I think he likes partying. Other than that, this is just an act.

Wiz Khalifa 32:28 Yeah, yeah, no.

Joe Rogan 32:29 This is... (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 32:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:31 It's weird, right?

Wiz Khalifa 32:32 It's crazy as fuck, because people, they want you to be you. They want me to be myself.

Joe Rogan 32:38 Right.

Wiz Khalifa 32:39 They wanna party, they wanna take shots, they wanna smoke weed, they wanna stay up all night.

Joe Rogan 32:43 Yeah. Why is that bad?

Wiz Khalifa 32:45 It's not.

Joe Rogan 32:45 So many people wanna do it. But it gives this, uh, image in some people's minds-

Wiz Khalifa 32:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:50 ... of like frivolous life.

Wiz Khalifa 32:51 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:52 Frivolous thinking, partying.

Wiz Khalifa 32:54 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:55 What are you doing drinking and smoking?

Wiz Khalifa 32:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:57 What are you, enjoying yourself?

Wiz Khalifa 32:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:59 You know?

Wiz Khalifa 33:00 And then, they come around and do the same thing 'cause they want it. It's like-

Joe Rogan 33:03 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 33:03 ... I have like a weird place in life where I think I'm like the key to a lot of shit because it's like if you wanna enjoy yourself, I'm the guy. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 33:15 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 33:15 It's like, "Oh, man, I'm just fucking gonna live through Wiz. When Wiz shows up, he's gonna light the joint. It's gonna be amazing." If you wanna fucking be professional, like especially w- in what I do, because there's a whole lot of rappers who like aren't business, you know what I mean? They're not thinking like that.

Joe Rogan 33:32 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 33:33 So for those guys, I'm their guy. Like they're, they, they look at me like, "Wiz has his shit together." Like he really handles his business, he talks to people, he shows up, he does this, he does that. So to be the party guy and the business guy, it's like amazing, you know what I mean? It's a, it's a lane that I kinda carved for myself, but it's me in real life. So it's like, that's the only thing I have to do is really just completely be myself, just be 100%, fucking show up, do my business thing, tell people to do the right thing, and fucking light the joint. You know what I mean? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:08 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 34:08 That's it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:10 That's a crazy business, sir.

Wiz Khalifa 34:11 I'm, I'm good. I'm straight like that.

Joe Rogan 34:13 That's amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 34:14 Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 34:15 People listening to this are probably like, "Wow."

Wiz Khalifa 34:16 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:17 "He could be himself for a living."

Wiz Khalifa 34:19 For sure, bro, it's a blessing. It's a blessing.

Joe Rogan 34:22 I had John Witherspoon on yesterday, with his son, JD.

Wiz Khalifa 34:24 Okay.

Joe Rogan 34:24 You know, you know Pops Witherspoon?

Wiz Khalifa 34:25 Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 34:26 And that's basically what he is.

Wiz Khalifa 34:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:29 He's, uh, one of the funniest fucking human beings that's ever lived.

Wiz Khalifa 34:31 Right.

Joe Rogan 34:32 And just keep a camera on him. (laughs) Just keep a camera on him. That's the whole show.

Wiz Khalifa 34:35 I don't think I've ever met family e- in real life.

Joe Rogan 34:37 He's amazing. Oh, he's amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 34:38 He's like-

Joe Rogan 34:39 He's so funny.

Wiz Khalifa 34:39 He's, he's legit?

Joe Rogan 34:40 My face was hurting.

Wiz Khalifa 34:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:42 By the end of the day, like the cheekbone muscles-

Wiz Khalifa 34:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:44 ... they're like, ah.

Wiz Khalifa 34:45 Yeah. Yeah, he probably got some-

Joe Rogan 34:46 I'm worn out.

Wiz Khalifa 34:46 ... crazy ass stories.

Joe Rogan 34:47 Oh, yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 34:48 That motherfucker been in the game forever.

Joe Rogan 34:50 Yeah. And he's, that's who he is. He got paid to be who he is.

Wiz Khalifa 34:53 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:53 He figured out how to just be who he is-

Wiz Khalifa 34:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:55 ... all the time.

Wiz Khalifa 34:56 Yup.

Joe Rogan 34:56 It's insane.

Wiz Khalifa 34:57 Damn, bro.

Joe Rogan 34:59 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 34:59 Yeah, it's not limited to, uh, one or two of us, right?

Joe Rogan 35:02 Yeah, there's a bunch of different paths.

Wiz Khalifa 35:04 That's the cold part.

Joe Rogan 35:04 Yeah, yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 35:05 Yep, yep.

Joe Rogan 35:07 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 35:08 Hell, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:10 So how many years you been training martial arts now?

Wiz Khalifa 35:12 Uh, this is my second year.

Joe Rogan 35:13 Wow.

Wiz Khalifa 35:14 Yeah, only two years. I gained-

Joe Rogan 35:15 That's amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 35:16 ... I gained, what, 35 pounds?

Joe Rogan 35:19 Ho- pull up a video of him hitting pads. That's incredible.

Wiz Khalifa 35:22 Is it a new video?

Joe Rogan 35:23 Because, uh... I don't know. Tell them, tell them what, what video is put up?

Wiz Khalifa 35:26 Nah, it's probably gonna be old, but it's all good, though. You know how we are.

Joe Rogan 35:29 You can hit hard. You have good technique. You turn your-

Wiz Khalifa 35:32 I'm learning.

Joe Rogan 35:32 ... you turn your hips and shoulders into things.

Wiz Khalifa 35:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yup, I'm learning.

Joe Rogan 35:35 You, you do it right. So that's-

Wiz Khalifa 35:36 Thank you, bro.

Joe Rogan 35:36 ... very impressive that it's only two years in.

Wiz Khalifa 35:38 Yo, I'm learning. (laughs) That's the thing.

Joe Rogan 35:41 That's awesome, man. I love it.

Wiz Khalifa 35:42 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:42 I love it when people take a chance, too, and they-

Wiz Khalifa 35:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:44 ... try something new.

Wiz Khalifa 35:46 Yeah, that's old, but you know, we'll get there.

Joe Rogan 35:49 So, how many, uh, months had you been in here? Like, you said this was old.

Wiz Khalifa 35:53 This was probably like a year in.

Narrator 35:55 Yeah. This was a year ago.

Wiz Khalifa 35:55 Yeah, yep.

Joe Rogan 35:57 (clears throat) Dude, seriously though. Good technique for someone who's been doing it a year.

Wiz Khalifa 36:01 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 36:01 The way you're moving, I mean, there's no fat to your movements.

Wiz Khalifa 36:04 Right.

Joe Rogan 36:05 See what I'm saying? Like, everything you're doing, it might not be the fastest in the world or the most devastating, but you're doing it perfect.

Wiz Khalifa 36:10 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 36:11 You're doing it exactly how you're supposed to do it, and then you just get better and better from there.

Wiz Khalifa 36:14 There you go.

Joe Rogan 36:14 But what we were talking about is the change in your physique, man.

Wiz Khalifa 36:17 Right, right.

Joe Rogan 36:17 I mean, you became fucking shredded.

Wiz Khalifa 36:19 Right. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:20 It's impressive.

Wiz Khalifa 36:21 Yeah, thank you.

Joe Rogan 36:22 That's only through hard work. You can't do it any other way.

Wiz Khalifa 36:24 Yeah. Just, just working-

Joe Rogan 36:25 Yeah. (bell ringing)

Wiz Khalifa 36:26 ... and, and eating. I was, uh-

Joe Rogan 36:27 Halo.

Wiz Khalifa 36:28 Oh, I'm sorry. That's my fucking doorbell. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:31 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 36:31 It's hard to cut that off. Sorry about that, guys.

Joe Rogan 36:33 That's no worries, man. Welcome to the wonderful world of convenience.

Wiz Khalifa 36:36 There we go. Bam. Um, yeah. Eating like a motherfucker, bro.

Joe Rogan 36:40 Yeah?

Wiz Khalifa 36:40 I used to... I had to like force myself to eat, um...

Narrator 36:44 To gain weight?

Wiz Khalifa 36:45 To gain weight.

Joe Rogan 36:46 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 36:46 Um, fucking just moving around so much. I already have a quick metabolism, so then you add working out to that.

Joe Rogan 36:52 Ooh.

Wiz Khalifa 36:53 So it's like I'm burning so much. So, setting alarms to eat.

Joe Rogan 36:56 Really?

Wiz Khalifa 36:57 Getting a little... Yeah, yep. Getting a little bit more rest too, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 37:00 Setting alarms to eat?

Wiz Khalifa 37:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:01 Like, how does that work?

Wiz Khalifa 37:02 Yeah, yeah, like-

Joe Rogan 37:02 You wake up and then you eat and then you go back to sleep?

Wiz Khalifa 37:04 Wake up, eat, go back to sleep. Go train, eat.

Joe Rogan 37:06 Oh, god. What kind of farts are you brewing?

Wiz Khalifa 37:08 Go to sleep. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:09 (laughs) Like, how can you eat right before you go to sleep?

Wiz Khalifa 37:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:12 Oh, my Jesus Christ.

Wiz Khalifa 37:14 I do a lot of like, like ginger shots and like shit like that to help.

Joe Rogan 37:19 Oh, good.

Wiz Khalifa 37:19 Like with my di-

Joe Rogan 37:19 Turmeric?

Wiz Khalifa 37:19 Yeah, turmeric.

Joe Rogan 37:20 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 37:20 All of that shit too, 'cause like you said-

Joe Rogan 37:22 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 37:22 ... that shit can fuck your stomach up.

Joe Rogan 37:24 Why, but who told you to get up in the middle of the night and eat though?

Wiz Khalifa 37:27 My trainer.

Joe Rogan 37:28 Yeah?

Wiz Khalifa 37:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:29 Hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 37:29 Yeah, yep.

Joe Rogan 37:30 I would, uh, I would say that your sleep cycle is more important than anything. How-

Wiz Khalifa 37:34 Oh, well, it's not like breaking my sleep. It's like more of like, "Yo, eat."

Joe Rogan 37:39 Oh, you mean like you set an alarm while you're awake?

Wiz Khalifa 37:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:41 Oh, okay, okay.

Wiz Khalifa 37:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:42 I see what you're saying. (laughs) I've never heard anybody telling someone to wake up in the middle of the night and eat.

Wiz Khalifa 37:46 Nah. Not like that.

Joe Rogan 37:46 No, I did hear that, that's why it was weird.

Wiz Khalifa 37:48 Nah.

Joe Rogan 37:48 I heard that from, uh... There was that movie with Clint Eastwood where he played a boxing trainer and his daughter, that famous actress, played the boxer.

Wiz Khalifa 37:56 Okay.

Joe Rogan 37:57 Remember that? Billion Dollar Baby or something?

Wiz Khalifa 37:59 Oh.

Joe Rogan 37:59 Million Dollar Baby.

Wiz Khalifa 38:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell yeah.

Narrator 38:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 38:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Narrator 38:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:02 When that actress... What is her name?

Narrator 38:05 Hilary Swank.

Joe Rogan 38:06 Hilary Swank.

Wiz Khalifa 38:07 Good job.

Joe Rogan 38:07 When Hilary... Thank you. Look at Jamie. He's on the ball.

Wiz Khalifa 38:09 Good job, man.

Joe Rogan 38:10 When she was training for that, I think that's what I read, that they, they had alarms set where she would wake up in the middle of the night and have a protein shake.

Wiz Khalifa 38:18 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 38:18 And then go back to sleep again.

Wiz Khalifa 38:20 Nah, I'm not doing that.

Joe Rogan 38:21 Okay.

Wiz Khalifa 38:21 Nah. No, no breaking the sleep. Uh, just regular eating habits, just reminding myself. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 38:28 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 38:28 'Cause I was eating like twice a day on some just, some rockstar shit.

Joe Rogan 38:34 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 38:34 Can't live like that, bro. That shit is whack.

Joe Rogan 38:37 Do you have a nutritionist or someone who like handles your meals?

Wiz Khalifa 38:40 Meal preps.

Joe Rogan 38:41 Yeah, you got that?

Wiz Khalifa 38:41 'Cause I don't cook.

Joe Rogan 38:42 Right.

Wiz Khalifa 38:42 So it's like they just deliver my meals.

Joe Rogan 38:45 That's nice.

Wiz Khalifa 38:45 Yeah, yep. It's really nice actually.

Joe Rogan 38:48 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 38:48 Yeah, yeah. 'Cause I'm, I'm single so it's like I don't really got nobody in the house like cooking or-

Joe Rogan 38:53 Right.

Wiz Khalifa 38:53 ... making all that shit happen for me, so it just comes to the door.

Joe Rogan 38:56 So you can make sure everything's healthy-

Wiz Khalifa 38:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:59 ... exactly what you want.

Wiz Khalifa 39:00 It's all there.

Joe Rogan 39:00 They set it up for you.

Wiz Khalifa 39:01 It's fresh every couple of days.

Joe Rogan 39:04 That's a good thing to not have to think about.

Wiz Khalifa 39:05 Yeah, yep. The food, the food is like a big part of it. Like working out is one thing. People just wanna get big. Like you said... Well, like we were talking about, it's like mind, body and soul, right? So, the food is for the soul.

Joe Rogan 39:18 Mm.

Wiz Khalifa 39:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:20 Keep that fucking meat alive.

Wiz Khalifa 39:21 Yeah, yep.

Joe Rogan 39:22 Keep the body moving.

Wiz Khalifa 39:23 Yep.

Joe Rogan 39:24 Are you, uh... Do you ever do yoga or anything like that?

Wiz Khalifa 39:26 I would.

Joe Rogan 39:27 You would?

Wiz Khalifa 39:27 Yeah, yep.

Joe Rogan 39:28 Yeah?

Wiz Khalifa 39:28 I need a yoga instructor.

Joe Rogan 39:30 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 39:30 Who's the best yoga-ist?

Joe Rogan 39:33 I don't know, man.

Wiz Khalifa 39:34 You do yoga?

Joe Rogan 39:34 Yeah, I love it.

Wiz Khalifa 39:35 Yeah, yep. How long-

Joe Rogan 39:37 I just-

Wiz Khalifa 39:37 How long... Oh yeah, I seen you do like some hot yoga and shit.

Joe Rogan 39:40 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 39:41 Yeah, yep.

Joe Rogan 39:41 Yeah, I love it.

Wiz Khalifa 39:41 That shit's intense, right?

Joe Rogan 39:43 It's kinda intense, yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 39:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:44 But it's, uh, it's great for you, man.

Wiz Khalifa 39:46 Okay.

Joe Rogan 39:46 Just stretches you out, loosens you up.

Wiz Khalifa 39:48 That's what I need to do. I need to stretch.

Joe Rogan 39:51 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 39:51 Yeah. I do like regular, normal stretching, but some yoga would be aight.

Joe Rogan 39:56 Yeah, it's good too because, 'cause the heat in the room, everything gets real loose.

Wiz Khalifa 40:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:00 And you can really kinda dig into like certain things, uh, to stress your fre- to test your flexibility.

Wiz Khalifa 40:06 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:06 To stretch things out a little bit more.

Wiz Khalifa 40:08 Got you.

Joe Rogan 40:08 It just keeps you pliable.

Wiz Khalifa 40:10 Got you.

Joe Rogan 40:10 You know? When you're doing a lot of hard things like Muay Thai or weight lifting-

Wiz Khalifa 40:14 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:14 ... everything's hard, like there's not, not enough stretching things out and-

Wiz Khalifa 40:18 Totally.

Joe Rogan 40:19 ... maintaining your range of motion.

Wiz Khalifa 40:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:21 Especially as you get older.

Wiz Khalifa 40:22 How often do you do it?

Joe Rogan 40:23 I try to do it at least once a week, but I often fail, but, uh, uh, two times a week on a good week.

Wiz Khalifa 40:29 Okay.

Joe Rogan 40:29 Yeah. It's not... But I mix it in, but I, I can't do one thing every day.

Wiz Khalifa 40:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:34 I get bored.

Wiz Khalifa 40:35 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:35 So in order to stay active I just have to do a bunch of different things.

Wiz Khalifa 40:38 That makes sense.

Joe Rogan 40:39 So whether it's martial arts or-

Wiz Khalifa 40:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 40:41 ... running or lifting or w- whatever it is.

Wiz Khalifa 40:44 I feel like through time you like added those things in, right?

Joe Rogan 40:47 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 40:47 It was just like, "All right. I'ma do this."

Joe Rogan 40:49 Yeah, the hill running-

Wiz Khalifa 40:50 Now I'm gonna do this.

Joe Rogan 40:51 ... is the most recent thing added in.

Wiz Khalifa 40:52 Okay, cool. So what's hill running? What's-

Joe Rogan 40:54 I take my dog running through these steep ass fucking hills and then, you know, sprinting up these... It's the most ruthless workout.

Wiz Khalifa 41:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 41:02 You know, have you ever run hills?

Wiz Khalifa 41:04 Yes.

Joe Rogan 41:05 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 41:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:05 You know what's the worst?

Wiz Khalifa 41:06 I don't like go-

Joe Rogan 41:07 Sand dunes.

Wiz Khalifa 41:07 Yeah, I don't like it.

Joe Rogan 41:08 Sand dunes are the worst.

Wiz Khalifa 41:09 That probably sucks.

Joe Rogan 41:10 It sucks. You never-

Wiz Khalifa 41:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:11 You never get up there. You just, you keep, you keep pushing and you're pushing sand and pushing sand. There's no hard... You don't ever bounce off anything.

Wiz Khalifa 41:18 Right.

Joe Rogan 41:19 You're just pushing through soft shit. It's ruthless.

Wiz Khalifa 41:20 And you're trying to find like balance and-

Joe Rogan 41:22 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 41:23 That's some real martial arts shit though.

Joe Rogan 41:25 Yeah, for sure. That's some mental shit too.

Wiz Khalifa 41:28 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 41:28 Yeah, you're learning about yourself when you're running up a fucking sand dune. (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 41:31 You're mastering a fucking moving thing.

Joe Rogan 41:34 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 41:35 Thing's melting the whole time you're trying.

Joe Rogan 41:37 Yeah, yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 41:37 Wow. Okay.

Joe Rogan 41:39 And you're forcing your bro- your body to do what your mind wants it to.

Wiz Khalifa 41:42 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 41:42 You're like, "Listen, bitch. I know you don't wanna do this."

Wiz Khalifa 41:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:44 "You're gonna do this."

Wiz Khalifa 41:45 That's like, uh... I heard the Diaz brothers do some crazy shit like swimming.

Joe Rogan 41:51 Oh yeah, they do triathlons.

Wiz Khalifa 41:52 Yeah.... fuck that.

Joe Rogan 41:54 Nick- Nick Diaz, I-

Wiz Khalifa 41:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:55 He's- I think it's now five times that he swam back from Alcatraz.

Wiz Khalifa 42:00 Fuck that.

Joe Rogan 42:01 Yeah. Alcatraz, man.

Wiz Khalifa 42:03 Bro.

Joe Rogan 42:03 Sharks. Sharks.

Wiz Khalifa 42:04 Fuck. That.

Joe Rogan 42:04 That's what- I'm with you.

Wiz Khalifa 42:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:06 Fuck that. That's so crazy. Those guys are so crazy.

Wiz Khalifa 42:10 (laughs) That's like you and the sand dunes, though.

Joe Rogan 42:14 Well, I haven't do- I don't do sand dunes.

Wiz Khalifa 42:16 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 42:16 If I had one near me, I would do it.

Wiz Khalifa 42:17 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 42:18 But I run hills.

Wiz Khalifa 42:18 Okay.

Joe Rogan 42:18 Which is definitely easier than sand dunes.

Wiz Khalifa 42:20 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 42:20 But it's still hard as fuck.

Wiz Khalifa 42:22 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 42:22 Good steep-ass hill, it's the best for training.

Wiz Khalifa 42:25 Is it grass?

Joe Rogan 42:26 Yeah. Dirt, dirt, rocks.

Wiz Khalifa 42:28 Just anything?

Joe Rogan 42:29 Yeah. Just- just- just trails, you know?

Wiz Khalifa 42:31 Damn, bro.

Joe Rogan 42:33 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 42:33 I'ma get there someday. You'll see me- you'll see me-

Joe Rogan 42:36 Come on, man.

Wiz Khalifa 42:36 You'll see me blazing up some hills.

Joe Rogan 42:37 You wanna come with me, I'll take you out one day.

Wiz Khalifa 42:39 Ah.

Joe Rogan 42:40 We'll go running together.

Wiz Khalifa 42:40 I like to hike.

Joe Rogan 42:41 It's a- it's a great workout, man. And the thing about it is, it- it amps everything else out.

Wiz Khalifa 42:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:46 So like, uh, it makes your kicking stronger.

Wiz Khalifa 42:49 Mm.

Joe Rogan 42:49 It gives you more wind.

Wiz Khalifa 42:50 Mm.

Joe Rogan 42:51 It- it just accentuates your ability to explode, because you're running hills.

Wiz Khalifa 42:55 Right.

Joe Rogan 42:55 So you're always going up.

Wiz Khalifa 42:56 Up.

Joe Rogan 42:56 It's like you're doing these crazy plyometrics-

Wiz Khalifa 42:59 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 42:59 ... and you just develop this-

Wiz Khalifa 43:00 That forward-

Joe Rogan 43:00 ... way stronger-

Wiz Khalifa 43:02 Mm. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:02 ... uh, power in your legs and y- your lower trunk. You know, you just boom.

Wiz Khalifa 43:05 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:06 More kicking power.

Wiz Khalifa 43:07 Yep. That makes sense.

Joe Rogan 43:08 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 43:09 I feel like I would fuck with it.

Joe Rogan 43:10 Dude, you'd love it.

Wiz Khalifa 43:11 'Cause I like to just tune shit out and just go.

Joe Rogan 43:13 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 43:14 So, like, the pain from running up the hill would just- I would be like, yes.

Joe Rogan 43:19 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 43:20 I'm not even gonna think about this. I'm gonna think about something else.

Joe Rogan 43:22 Yeah, well, and you get a goal, right? You set a goal, like a mile. Put yourself at one mile.

Wiz Khalifa 43:27 Whoo.

Joe Rogan 43:27 And then turn around and go back f- for the other mile.

Wiz Khalifa 43:30 Whoo.

Joe Rogan 43:30 Yeah. And if you can- if you can do that on good steep-ass hills, when you're done, you feel like you fought a battle with your brain.

Wiz Khalifa 43:38 Whoo.

Joe Rogan 43:39 It's like, you know you didn't wanna do that, but you did it.

Wiz Khalifa 43:41 Damn, dawg. All right.

Joe Rogan 43:43 That's nothing compared to what some people do.

Wiz Khalifa 43:45 Yeah, but no, that's- that's-

Joe Rogan 43:47 You know?

Wiz Khalifa 43:47 ... that sounds like, you know, something that we could unlock later on in my life.

Joe Rogan 43:51 I think for everybody, uh, doing something that's super strenuous-

Wiz Khalifa 43:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:56 ... all the time is important.

Wiz Khalifa 43:57 Yeah, for sure.

Joe Rogan 43:58 For sure.

Wiz Khalifa 43:59 That's- that's part of the reason why I fuck with training, you know, so much, 'cause it's not easy, and it- it- it breaks you.

Joe Rogan 44:08 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 44:08 But you reach points where it's like, okay, now I'm just cruising, so I need-

Joe Rogan 44:11 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 44:11 ... another challenge. Like, you're just sharpening the shit af- after a certain point, so it's like, all right, now I'ma go run in some sand dunes, like.

Joe Rogan 44:19 Yeah. (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 44:20 (laughs) Swim from Alcatraz.

Joe Rogan 44:22 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 44:23 So yeah, I get it.

Joe Rogan 44:24 I think there's dunes somewhere down there, like Orange County, where they're pretty famous

Narrator 44:28 I was looking up, uh, Manhattan Beach has a dune park, yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:31 ... for your famies, seeing how dudes run on 'em. Is that what... Yeah. That makes sense.

Wiz Khalifa 44:32 It's a park?

Narrator 44:33 Yeah, yeah. I was just, there's a video of Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook training there I was about to pull up.

Joe Rogan 44:37 Yeah, pull that shit up.

Narrator 44:38 Let me see that.

Joe Rogan 44:38 I wanna see somebody run on those dunes.

Narrator 44:39 I want to see that. Oh.

Wiz Khalifa 44:40 Oh, Westbrook be doing it?

Narrator 44:41 Yep.

Wiz Khalifa 44:42 All right, cuh.

Joe Rogan 44:42 I know a lot of fighters do it. Um-

Narrator 44:44 There you go.

Joe Rogan 44:45 In Australia, I believe Robert Whitaker does it. Yeah, see-

Narrator 44:48 They're going up and down backwards.

Joe Rogan 44:49 ... when you're doing shit like this-

Wiz Khalifa 44:50 Shoot.

Joe Rogan 44:50 ... on sand, that is phenomenal for your body.

Wiz Khalifa 44:53 Oh, man. Look at that shit.

Joe Rogan 44:54 That's so hard to do, man.

Wiz Khalifa 44:55 They're dying.

Joe Rogan 44:56 Dying. That's so hard to do. And I wonder if they're running with just socks on. It looks like they are.

Wiz Khalifa 45:02 Whoa.

Narrator 45:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:03 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 45:03 That's amazing.

Joe Rogan 45:04 To just wear the socks.

Wiz Khalifa 45:05 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's difficult.

Joe Rogan 45:07 Fuck, man, 'cause that makes your feet strong, 'cause you just- you've- using every muscle in your toes to push through that sand.

Wiz Khalifa 45:14 That's difficult.

Joe Rogan 45:15 Fuck. There's levels to this life.

Wiz Khalifa 45:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:19 Every-

Wiz Khalifa 45:20 That's- that's literally who's gonna go to the top or who's gonna stop in the middle.

Joe Rogan 45:24 Yep. Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 45:25 Yeah, fuck.

Joe Rogan 45:26 Those little decisions you make every day.

Wiz Khalifa 45:28 I just seen my whole life (laughs) just running up some dunes just then, like.

Joe Rogan 45:34 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 45:34 Yeah, it was cool.

Joe Rogan 45:35 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 45:35 Yeah, yep. That's awesome.

Joe Rogan 45:37 It's like a mental martial art too.

Wiz Khalifa 45:39 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

Joe Rogan 45:41 You're- you're testing the mind.

Wiz Khalifa 45:42 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:43 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 45:44 And, like, getting stronger at the same time.

Joe Rogan 45:46 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 45:47 That's the cold part.

Joe Rogan 45:48 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 45:49 So it's like you could be up here the whole time, and you're building all of this and becoming more explosive and more dangerous-

Joe Rogan 45:58 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 45:58 ... and lighter on your feet and just pew.

Joe Rogan 46:01 When you started training and seeing these awesome benefits, were you like, "God dammit, why wasn't I doing this all the time?"

Wiz Khalifa 46:07 (laughs) Um, I'm actually happy that I, that I waited for a little bit, 'cause I enjoy it. It's not, like, old to me, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 46:15 Right.

Wiz Khalifa 46:15 It's not something that I'm tired of or-

Joe Rogan 46:17 Right.

Wiz Khalifa 46:17 ... like, that's a chore. I'm still figuring out new shit, like all the time.

Joe Rogan 46:22 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 46:22 And getting better, you know what I mean? And, like, uh, for me, I feel like the physical was probably like the first thing to come to me, uh, as like a, like as a reward, as a benefit. Like, I see the- the- the physical shit. But now, it's like the feeling that I get, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 46:39 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 46:40 Or like, like we said, like, posture and balance and technique improving and shit like that. So it's like learning that and feeling that and having that being a part of the process, I'm happy that now is- is happening, as opposed to it being like old and played out to me.

Joe Rogan 46:56 Right.

Wiz Khalifa 46:57 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:57 That's interesting.

Wiz Khalifa 46:58 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 46:59 I think you'd love it either way.

Wiz Khalifa 47:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:01 I still love it. I still love training. I've been doing it forever.

Wiz Khalifa 47:04 How long have you- Forever?

Joe Rogan 47:04 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 47:05 (exhales)

Joe Rogan 47:05 I'm 51.

Wiz Khalifa 47:06 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 47:06 I started training when I was, really seriously when I was 15.

Wiz Khalifa 47:10 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 47:10 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 47:11 Damn. So I- what the fuck was I doing?

Joe Rogan 47:13 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 47:13 (laughs) In the studio.

Joe Rogan 47:14 That's how I- how I was feeling.

Wiz Khalifa 47:15 I was rapping.

Joe Rogan 47:16 Were you rapping when you were 15?

Wiz Khalifa 47:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 47:17 Wow. When did you first get in the stud- that's one thing I, uh, really admire about a lot of rappers. You guys are always working.

Wiz Khalifa 47:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:24 Rappers are always in the studio.

Wiz Khalifa 47:25 Hopefully.

Joe Rogan 47:26 That's like a big thing, though.

Wiz Khalifa 47:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:27 It's like th- there's a discipline aspect to it-

Wiz Khalifa 47:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:31 ... that I don't think that gets appreciated.

Wiz Khalifa 47:32 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:33 You have to be- you're always in the lab.

Wiz Khalifa 47:35 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:35 You're always working.

Wiz Khalifa 47:36 Constantly. It's like-

Joe Rogan 47:37 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 47:37 ... training. You gotta be, you gotta work at it, you gotta be-

Joe Rogan 47:39 It's competitive.

Wiz Khalifa 47:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:40 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 47:40 It's competitive. You gotta be in the studio.

Joe Rogan 47:43 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 47:43 You gotta work with producers. You gotta be coming new, fucking knowing who's next and who's... You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 47:50 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 47:50 Like, working with them and shit like that, so, like, at the end of the day, yeah, it's a craft. Shit.I've been in the studio since I was, like, 14, 15. And there was times when my dad used to have to tell me, like, "Yo, get out of the studio." Like, "Go play with your friends."

Joe Rogan 48:04 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 48:05 "Be a kid. Be normal."

Joe Rogan 48:06 Wow.

Wiz Khalifa 48:06 Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, there was times that shit happened. And even now, like, I don't really do normal shit, you know what I mean? I might, like, go to the movies or, like, go to Dave & Buster's or something like that. But, like, I don't do shit. Like, I just go to the studio. I'd much rather just ... You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 48:24 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 48:25 Create.

Joe Rogan 48:26 Well, that's amazing that you figured it out so young.

Wiz Khalifa 48:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:28 Like, how, how old were you when you knew you wanted to be a rapper?

Wiz Khalifa 48:32 Uh, I think I was in third grade.

Joe Rogan 48:34 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 48:35 So, real shit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:37 (laughs) (clapping)

Wiz Khalifa 48:37 I think I was in third grade.

Joe Rogan 48:39 That's amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 48:40 I wanted, I wanted to be a Ninja Turtle and I wanted to be a rapper.

Joe Rogan 48:43 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 48:43 And I think a rapper was, like, a little bit more realistic. I'm working on being a Ninja Turtle now.

Joe Rogan 48:48 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 48:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:50 That's amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 48:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:51 Third grade.

Wiz Khalifa 48:52 Yeah, third grade, I was-

Joe Rogan 48:52 How old were you in third grade again? You're nine?

Wiz Khalifa 48:54 Yeah. You nine? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's when I started writing my first raps and shit.

Joe Rogan 48:58 Dude, that is hilarious.

Wiz Khalifa 49:00 Yeah, I was, like, watching music videos. And I remember seeing, like, Puffy and Biggie and Bone Thugs-N-Harmony is, like, one of my favorite groups.

Joe Rogan 49:08 Wow.

Wiz Khalifa 49:08 So it was like, "Yo, if I can do that, I'll be a'ight." And then, um, by the time I was, like, 13, uh, that's when the internet was really popular, so you could download, like, instrumentals and shit like that. So you didn't have to, like, have beats or anything.

Joe Rogan 49:23 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 49:24 And then they started introducing, you know, uh, at home equipment. They had, like, little TASCAM four-track little bullshit thing that you could ... You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 49:35 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 49:36 So I started fucking around on that, like, doing my own little home studio. Then FruityLoops came out and started making beats. Cool Edit Pro was, like, the, the program back then before Pro Tools. And yeah, that's how I got my start, like, just in the fucking ... In the, in the crib, just putting it together. Then I turned, like ... Then by the time I was, like, 16, I got, like, an internship at a, at a studio in Pittsburgh where I was literally, like, answering the phones and running errands and going to pick up, like, office supplies and shit like that, and in return, they would pay me with studio time. So, like, I would just record, like, off ... You know what I mean? Off the clock.

Joe Rogan 50:16 Right.

Wiz Khalifa 50:16 You know what I mean? And I had, like, four or five songs, and that turned into a record deal.

Joe Rogan 50:21 Wow.

Wiz Khalifa 50:22 Yup, got my first deal at 16.

Joe Rogan 50:24 That's an amazing story. (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 50:26 It's wild.

Joe Rogan 50:27 That's, that's a movie story.

Wiz Khalifa 50:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:29 That's crazy that you always knew.

Wiz Khalifa 50:31 Yeah, yup. It was something that I worked at, for sure, 'cause it was like, being in, in Pittsburgh ... You ever been to Pittsburgh?

Joe Rogan 50:37 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 50:38 You know it's pretty crazy out there, right?

Joe Rogan 50:40 Crazy how?

Wiz Khalifa 50:41 Like, it's just a really wild city. Like, the Midwest, so it's like, there's either a couple things you can do and there's not a lot. (laughs) And working a job is, like, the last thing that anybody wants to do in Pittsburgh, so all my cousins and everybody that I know do different shit than what I was willing to do. I was like, "Yo, I'm not trying to be that guy," like-

Joe Rogan 51:04 Hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 51:04 ... like that. So, I was like, "How am I gonna make a way for myself?" You know what I mean? How the fuck am I gonna get ... Still be fresh, still, you know what I mean, enjoy myself, have a good time, but be safe and, like, have fun? It was music, so ...

Joe Rogan 51:19 It's amazing that you nailed it. (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 51:20 Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 51:21 And nailed it young.

Wiz Khalifa 51:22 Yup.

Joe Rogan 51:24 (coughs) That's a beautiful thing to know what you wanna do.

Wiz Khalifa 51:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:26 And just be working towards it.

Wiz Khalifa 51:28 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:28 For many people, that's the real problem. The real problem is, like, finding a thing.

Wiz Khalifa 51:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:32 You know? Finding a thing they really love so much-

Wiz Khalifa 51:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:34 ... they can put all their energy into.

Wiz Khalifa 51:35 Yeah, I mean, I'm blessed to grow up in a time, too, where technology was, like, taking over and shit. And I think, like, if you're my age and you, like, make music or got a camera or ... You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 51:48 Hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 51:48 Anything around that, you good. Like, and now, I think it's like, if you have anything to do with weed, like, you know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 51:56 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 51:56 If you know how to grow it, if you could sell it, if you could brand it, if you could come up with light technology or whatever it is, like, that's gon' be the future for this generation, is, like, pot.

Joe Rogan 52:08 There's gonna be a lot of that, for sure.

Wiz Khalifa 52:10 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:11 It's, it's gonna open up to everybody.

Wiz Khalifa 52:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:12 I think once they realize how much money there really is in pot and how safe it is in comparison to liquor and all these other established-

Wiz Khalifa 52:19 Right.

Joe Rogan 52:19 ... things that we've all ... No one has a problem with alcohol companies.

Wiz Khalifa 52:23 Right.

Joe Rogan 52:24 You know?

Wiz Khalifa 52:24 Hell no.

Joe Rogan 52:25 Nobody has a problem with them.

Wiz Khalifa 52:26 Nobody has a problem with you drinking at 12:00-

Joe Rogan 52:29 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 52:29 ... in the fucking afternoon. Like-

Joe Rogan 52:31 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 52:31 ... I get on planes all the time and people will be like, "Yo, let me get a ..." (gibberish)

Joe Rogan 52:34 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 52:35 It's like, people getting fucked up, yo.

Joe Rogan 52:37 On a plane?

Wiz Khalifa 52:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:38 And it's totally fine? We just have to shift attitudes.

Wiz Khalifa 52:40 Yeah, yup.

Joe Rogan 52:41 People just have the wrong attitude about it. They, they, they think it's something negative.

Wiz Khalifa 52:44 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:44 It's something that could be negative to some people.

Wiz Khalifa 52:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:47 But that's, like, everything else. That's like food-

Wiz Khalifa 52:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:49 ... sex, gambling, everything.

Wiz Khalifa 52:50 Thank you. Shopping.

Joe Rogan 52:51 Everything. Yeah, yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 52:52 Everything.

Joe Rogan 52:52 Shopping, for sure. People go crazy.

Wiz Khalifa 52:54 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 52:54 People lose their mind shopping.

Wiz Khalifa 52:55 Yup.

Joe Rogan 52:55 They can't buy enough things.

Wiz Khalifa 52:56 Yup. They're buying crazy shit.

Joe Rogan 52:59 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 52:59 Just 'cause.

Joe Rogan 53:00 Just 'cause.

Wiz Khalifa 53:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:02 Yeah, that's, that's as much of a, an addiction as anything.

Wiz Khalifa 53:04 Yup.

Joe Rogan 53:05 But pot can definitely, for some people, derail them. I don't think it's for everybody.

Wiz Khalifa 53:10 Nah. It's a medicine, so you gotta have the right dosage.

Joe Rogan 53:14 That's, that's a good way of looking at it.

Wiz Khalifa 53:15 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:16 I think some people react to it weird too.

Wiz Khalifa 53:18 Yeah. I mean, certain people's experiences aren't everybody else's experiences.

Joe Rogan 53:22 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 53:22 So it's like, if you got fucked up on weed, that's you.

Joe Rogan 53:25 Right.

Wiz Khalifa 53:25 So it's like, don't put that off on everybody else. And I think, like, like anything, it takes time to ... You know what I mean? Like, I can't ... I take Percocet because it's like, that shit'll fuck me up-

Joe Rogan 53:37 Hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 53:37 ... 'cause I don't do painkillers. But I think over a certain amount of time, if I had an injury, my body would start to react differently to a certain amount of Percocet. But, like, off rip, it's gon' fuck me up. You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 53:50 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 53:50 I'm gonna throw up, I'm gonna do all types of shit. But, you know, after a while, you know what I mean? There's people who just pop that shit-... and just walk around, like, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 53:59 Right. Oh, yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 53:59 Normally. That same way with me smoking a joint. And it's like, there's certain people who could hit this and be in that corner for the rest of the day.

Joe Rogan 54:07 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 54:07 Me, I'm going to go do everything that I have to do, so it's a medicine, it's a dosage, and you have to train your body for it.

Joe Rogan 54:14 I think that's true, but I also think some people might not react to it correctly, in terms of, like, biologically.

Wiz Khalifa 54:20 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 54:20 I think they might have an allergy, like, it might be like broccoli or something. I mean, there's some, there's people out there that are allergic to weird shit.

Wiz Khalifa 54:26 Right.

Joe Rogan 54:26 And some people, I think, that just-

Wiz Khalifa 54:28 I've heard of that.

Joe Rogan 54:29 ... that experience is just not good for them.

Wiz Khalifa 54:30 They're like, they're allergic to it. I, I don't, I mean, you know-

Joe Rogan 54:33 I'm just guessing. I don't know. I mean, it makes sense though, doesn't it?

Wiz Khalifa 54:35 It's an op- I think it's opinion, like, if you, if you believe it or not. You know what I mean? Like-

Joe Rogan 54:40 Like, if you-

Wiz Khalifa 54:40 ... if you wanna believe that, I feel like you're entitled to believe that.

Joe Rogan 54:44 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 54:44 And if you don't wanna believe that, then it's like, okay, cool. You're, you're that guy too.

Joe Rogan 54:49 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 54:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:52 Okay.

Wiz Khalifa 54:52 I don't know either.

Joe Rogan 54:53 I agree with what you said.

Wiz Khalifa 54:54 Yeah. I don't know.

Joe Rogan 54:54 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 54:54 I don't know either, bro. Because it's like, I'm on the fence because it's like, you know, on one hand, people... I mean, I don't know. Fuck.

Joe Rogan 55:03 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 55:04 Yeah. Whatever. It's medicine.

Joe Rogan 55:05 It's fucking medicine.

Wiz Khalifa 55:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:07 Yeah. And I like it.

Wiz Khalifa 55:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:09 And, and there's a lot of people that like it. It's-

Wiz Khalifa 55:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:11 It's not what everybody thinks it is.

Wiz Khalifa 55:13 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:13 People have this wrong idea of it.

Wiz Khalifa 55:15 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:15 And one of the things I found out real early on is how many jujitsu guys smoke weed and do jujitsu. And that-

Wiz Khalifa 55:20 Yeah. You seen the High Rollers thing?

Joe Rogan 55:22 Yeah. Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 55:22 Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:24 High Rollers has, uh, uh, these awesome events where they do... They smoke weed and then they fight.

Wiz Khalifa 55:30 Yep.

Joe Rogan 55:30 In a jujitsu match.

Wiz Khalifa 55:31 Yep. My partners, uh, are, are, are a big part of that, Lonnie and Breeze, and they're the ones who actually got me, like, kind of, you know, into fitness. So, to see them, like... And I'm the one who got him into weed, so it's like (laughs) to see it, like, cross over... I never would have known, like... You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 55:51 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 55:51 How many jujitsu dudes, like, smoke weed and, like, re- are about it. Like...

Joe Rogan 55:55 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 55:56 They're about that shit.

Joe Rogan 55:56 It helps, it helps your jujitsu. It really does.

Wiz Khalifa 55:58 Oh, like-

Joe Rogan 55:58 In some weird way.

Wiz Khalifa 55:59 It helps, like, slow it down for you, right?

Joe Rogan 56:01 I don't even know if it slow it down. It's like it tunes out the rest of the world.

Wiz Khalifa 56:03 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 56:04 It's like you, you become freer.

Wiz Khalifa 56:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:05 It's very weird.

Wiz Khalifa 56:06 Like, more creative?

Joe Rogan 56:07 There's... It's definitely, uh, uh, it's better for rolling than it is for drilling.

Wiz Khalifa 56:11 Got you.

Joe Rogan 56:11 'Cause, like, when someone's trying to teach you something, sometimes y- your brain's just not taking it in right.

Wiz Khalifa 56:16 Taking it in right. Yeah (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 56:16 So you're just high, your brain's not taking it in. But if you were sparring, it would be good.

Wiz Khalifa 56:21 Got you.

Joe Rogan 56:21 You just f- you flow better.

Wiz Khalifa 56:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:23 Yeah. It's weird.

Wiz Khalifa 56:24 That makes sense. That makes sense. I haven't done jujitsu yet. I'm gonna get there, eventually.

Joe Rogan 56:30 You would love it.

Wiz Khalifa 56:31 I... Pshh.

Joe Rogan 56:32 You got long limbs, man-

Wiz Khalifa 56:33 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 56:33 You'd be perfect for choking people.

Wiz Khalifa 56:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:35 Arm bars, triangles and shit.

Wiz Khalifa 56:36 I'm gonna get there.

Joe Rogan 56:37 You could do it.

Wiz Khalifa 56:38 Yeah. I feel like-

Joe Rogan 56:39 You totally are built for it.

Wiz Khalifa 56:40 I feel like I'm gonna just fuck with standup for, like, a couple of years, and then just gradually do other things. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 56:47 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 56:47 And I'll just probably do jujitsu for, like, four, five years. You know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 56:51 Yeah, for sure. You should.

Wiz Khalifa 56:52 Just learn some shit.

Joe Rogan 56:54 Yeah, it'd be great for you, man.

Wiz Khalifa 56:55 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:55 You, you're, like I said, you're built for it.

Wiz Khalifa 56:57 I'm all about it.

Joe Rogan 56:57 That's the, the perfect frame for fighters is long.

Wiz Khalifa 57:00 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:00 It seems to be a... Long, as, as long as you're strong, it's like the Jon Jones frame.

Wiz Khalifa 57:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:04 That's the perfect frame.

Wiz Khalifa 57:05 Right. Right.

Joe Rogan 57:06 You can't get... It's, you can't get close enough to him. He can hit you when he wants to.

Wiz Khalifa 57:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:11 And then when he grabs ahold of you, he's strong enough that, and he's better at wrestling, he's gonna throw you around.

Wiz Khalifa 57:15 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:15 Like, if you could comp- like, that's the perfect, the perfect combination, is long and strong.

Wiz Khalifa 57:20 Hell yeah. Perfect.

Joe Rogan 57:22 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 57:22 Sweet.

Joe Rogan 57:23 Dudes like Sarafian, they, they buck that trend, right? 'Cause they're just tanks.

Wiz Khalifa 57:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:27 But the best, I... It seems to me, like, just mechanically-

Wiz Khalifa 57:30 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 57:30 ... the best frame is the long frame, so you have, like, the best frame for fighting.

Wiz Khalifa 57:35 Fuck yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:35 Congratulations.

Wiz Khalifa 57:36 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 57:37 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 57:37 I'm in there.

Joe Rogan 57:38 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 57:38 Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm.

Joe Rogan 57:39 It doesn't guarantee success, but it's a fucking awesome base.

Wiz Khalifa 57:43 There we go.

Joe Rogan 57:43 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 57:43 I'm start- I'm working with something. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:47 Yeah, 'cause, like, short dudes like me can't put big guys in triangles.

Wiz Khalifa 57:50 Okay.

Joe Rogan 57:50 'Cause I don't have enough legroom. There's not enough, like, mechanically.

Wiz Khalifa 57:54 I'm sure you could figure it out.

Joe Rogan 57:55 Not really.

Wiz Khalifa 57:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:56 No. You just gotta give up on that one.

Wiz Khalifa 57:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:59 But, but long guys can get triangles from all kinds of places.

Wiz Khalifa 58:03 Okay.

Joe Rogan 58:04 You'd love it.

Wiz Khalifa 58:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:05 Super... It's a thinking man's game too.

Wiz Khalifa 58:07 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:07 You know? It's like you're, you're playing a game.

Wiz Khalifa 58:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:10 You know?

Wiz Khalifa 58:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:10 The thing that I like about it too is that you can go full blast.

Wiz Khalifa 58:13 Okay.

Joe Rogan 58:14 Whereas, like, if you're sparring, you don't really wanna go full blast. You'll hurt each other.

Wiz Khalifa 58:18 Right.

Joe Rogan 58:18 You'd wanna be tempered and measured, and just kind of touch each other.

Wiz Khalifa 58:21 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:21 But when you do sparring in jujitsu, so because you're not striking each other, you're just wrestling and grappling-

Wiz Khalifa 58:26 Got you. Got you.

Joe Rogan 58:26 ... you could go full blast.

Wiz Khalifa 58:27 Okay.

Joe Rogan 58:28 It's amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 58:29 I'm with it, bro.

Joe Rogan 58:30 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 58:30 I'm super with it. Like, the little bit that I've done, I was like, "All right, cool. I can see," like, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 58:37 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 58:39 Yeah. I'm down.

Joe Rogan 58:42 Definitely.

Wiz Khalifa 58:42 Gotta go there.

Joe Rogan 58:43 I just love the fact that you're interested in doing different things.

Wiz Khalifa 58:46 Yeah, for sure.

Joe Rogan 58:46 You know?

Wiz Khalifa 58:47 I'm a learner.

Joe Rogan 58:48 Do you, uh, do you read books? Do you, uh, do you watch documentaries?

Wiz Khalifa 58:52 I watch documentaries.

Joe Rogan 58:54 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 58:54 I have read some books, uh, that I gravitate towards.

Joe Rogan 59:00 What kind of documentaries do you gravitate towards?

Wiz Khalifa 59:02 Like music.

Joe Rogan 59:03 Really?

Wiz Khalifa 59:03 Al- always about, always about music. Um... Let me see, what else? Yeah, it's always about music, like musicians...

Joe Rogan 59:11 Did you see Searching for Sugar Man?

Wiz Khalifa 59:14 What was that one?

Joe Rogan 59:15 That was about this dude who was a guy who was making music, I th- I bel- I wanna say it was in the '70s, and he had, like, a little bit of buzz on his album, and then it, it died off for him, and he went back to work as a construction worker.

Wiz Khalifa 59:33 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:34 But his music became insanely huge in South Africa.

Wiz Khalifa 59:39 Mm.

Joe Rogan 59:39 He was a superstar.

Wiz Khalifa 59:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:41 And there was all these legends about him.

Wiz Khalifa 59:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:42 That he was dead, that he, you know, the, uh, the, just, just crazy stories about who he was.

Wiz Khalifa 59:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:48 Meanwhile, this guy was working as a construction worker.

Wiz Khalifa 59:51 Damn.

Joe Rogan 59:51 So, in South Africa, he's a fucking mega superstar, like, sells out arenas.

Wiz Khalifa 59:56 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 59:57 And, uh, spoiler alert, he-... it's a great documentary, you should see it. But he eventually goes to South Africa and does this concert there.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:00:04 And you'll cry.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:05 You'll cry.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:06 You're like, "Oh, my God." Can you imagine this guy was working as a laborer-

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:10 Mm.

Joe Rogan 1:00:11 ... and the whole time-

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:12 Was-

Joe Rogan 1:00:12 ... he was a superstar-

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:13 Damn.

Joe Rogan 1:00:13 ... and he didn't even know it?

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:14 Damn.

Joe Rogan 1:00:14 And then the people see him, they're singing along to his music.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:00:17 I mean, the guy's blown away.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:19 I would love that.

Joe Rogan 1:00:20 It's a crazy documentary.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:21 I gotta check that out.

Joe Rogan 1:00:22 I- i- it's, it's insane to watch. Like, how could this be true?

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:26 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn.

Joe Rogan 1:00:29 It's amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:30 I kinda feel like I heard the name but I never-

Joe Rogan 1:00:32 Oh, you've gotta watch it.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:32 ... I never, never, no I've never seen that.

Joe Rogan 1:00:34 You've gotta watch it. It's a sensational-

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:35 Yeah, I gotta check that out, bro.

Joe Rogan 1:00:36 Yeah, it made me cry.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:37 I gotta check that out, for real.

Joe Rogan 1:00:38 At the end of it, you'll be like, "Wow."

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:40 Oh, hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:40 Imagine this guy's experience.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:42 Yeah, right? Damn.

Joe Rogan 1:00:43 It's almost like being released from jail or something.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:45 It's like-

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:46 Exactly. Damn.

Joe Rogan 1:00:47 Yeah. It's incredible.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:49 Holy fuck. Yeah, I'ma check that out.

Joe Rogan 1:00:51 Yeah, it's ama- and, and seeing how comfortable he gets on stage too.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:54 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:00:55 It was amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 1:00:56 Damn.

Joe Rogan 1:00:56 Yeah. His music is good too, man. Very, very interesting.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:01 Is he still alive?

Joe Rogan 1:01:03 I believe he is alive.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:04 That's fire.

Joe Rogan 1:01:05 He is alive, right?

Narrator 1:01:05 I think so, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:07 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:07 So he's able to see the proceeds from his movie and his music.

Joe Rogan 1:01:10 Yeah. Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:11 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:11 But someone said, I think he gave away all his money.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:14 Really?

Joe Rogan 1:01:15 I read something, but that might be more of those rumors and, and legends about the guy.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:19 Oh, legend, another myth. Damn, Sugarman. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:21 (laughs)

Narrator 1:01:21 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:22 He's attached to so many legends.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:25 Fi- Jamie, find out if that dude gave his money away, 'cause I felt like a read that. I was like-

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:29 Come on, bro.

Joe Rogan 1:01:30 But life to him is so surreal anyway.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:33 True.

Joe Rogan 1:01:34 Maybe he felt like he couldn't be a real bonafide artist unless he gave away his, his money or something crazy like that.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:41 Tough.

Joe Rogan 1:01:41 'Cause the guy, the guy was living in like this-

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:43 That's why I don't wanna do like-

Joe Rogan 1:01:44 ... small apartment.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:45 ... ayahuasca or anything like that, 'cause I feel like that's what's gonna happen to me.

Joe Rogan 1:01:48 You wanna give away your money?

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:51 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:51 (laughs)

Narrator 1:01:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:51 Fuck this shit.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:52 And then like, whoa, no, no, no.

Joe Rogan 1:01:53 That's hilarious.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:54 I don't wanna.

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 Yeah, it's too tricky.

Wiz Khalifa 1:01:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:56 You could, you could get so, uh, you know, so, so charity driven-

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:02 ... that you just give away everything.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:04 And then you're working for charities.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:06 Mm-hmm. I'm just walking the Earth barefoot. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:10 Yeah.

Narrator 1:02:10 He was on tour last year, touring theaters all over the country.

Joe Rogan 1:02:12 Good shit, Sugarman.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:14 Yes.

Narrator 1:02:14 So he's doing all right, yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:14 He's back. He's smacking it. So, okay, I'm watching that documentary for sure.

Joe Rogan 1:02:19 So there, there was a fake rumor that he gave away all his money?

Narrator 1:02:20 Yeah. Yeah. Dave Matthews covered one of his songs-

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:22 Damn.

Narrator 1:02:22 ... and then on tour he'll blow him up.

Joe Rogan 1:02:24 Damn.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:24 Oh, hell yeah. Damn.

Joe Rogan 1:02:26 Damn.

Narrator 1:02:26 He was doing good.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:27 So he ain't give away nothing.

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 Beautiful.

Narrator 1:02:28 He might have, but I don't see anything.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:30 Well, you got it back. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:32 Maybe he got it back. (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:32 Yeah. (laughs)

Narrator 1:02:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:33 It's, the documentary's really amazing. It's, uh, one of the best music documentaries I've ever seen.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:38 Perfect, thank you.

Joe Rogan 1:02:39 Yeah, it's a good one. Tell me a good one.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:41 My documentary.

Joe Rogan 1:02:42 Oh.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:43 Yeah, it's called Behind the Cam.

Joe Rogan 1:02:44 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:45 It's on Apple Music.

Joe Rogan 1:02:46 Oh, I'll get it.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:46 Hey.

Joe Rogan 1:02:47 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:48 I just did that. I just did that. (laughs)

Narrator 1:02:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:50 (laughs)

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:51 I just did that.

Joe Rogan 1:02:53 Beautiful.

Wiz Khalifa 1:02:54 Man, nah. Um, I like to watch like... I watched this Pink Floyd documentary about how they put together, uh-

Joe Rogan 1:03:01 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 1:03:01 ... their albums and shit like that. Um, there's another one about, like, uh, background singers (laughs) who, who never, like, became super popular but they're, like, part of, part of, uh, songs that you hear and that you love, and it's just like telling the story like how writers and, you know what I mean, being in the studio and what it's like to live that life. It's really cool-

Joe Rogan 1:03:22 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 1:03:22 ... 'cause I listen to harmonies a lot. I don't know if, when you hear music, I hear like all the textures of it. So it's like, I get interested in like what goes on sometimes like in the background, and that was a cool story. Um, fucking, what was the last one that I actually watched? I just watched, uh, I'm watching this show actually, you ever heard Tr- Chernobyl?

Joe Rogan 1:03:44 I've heard, I heard the show's amazing.

Wiz Khalifa 1:03:46 That shit's kinda cool.

Joe Rogan 1:03:47 Yeah, I heard it's great.

Wiz Khalifa 1:03:48 Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. But that's not music though. It's not.

Joe Rogan 1:03:51 What is that on? Is that on Netflix?

Narrator 1:03:52 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 1:03:52 It's on HBO, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:54 HBO? HBO coming back. Game of Thrones didn't kill 'em.

Wiz Khalifa 1:03:57 Chernobyl was it.

Joe Rogan 1:03:59 Really?

Wiz Khalifa 1:03:59 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:59 That good, huh?

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:00 That show's lit.

Joe Rogan 1:04:01 That's all you need. All you need is a big show.

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:03 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:03 And HBO's back.

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:06 Chernobyl, what is, is it about the, the accident?

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:09 Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:04:11 How many, uh, episodes is it?

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:12 I'm not sure. They're, they're like streaming 'em now so it's like one of the-

Joe Rogan 1:04:15 Oh, it streams?

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:16 Yeah, yep.

Joe Rogan 1:04:17 Oh.

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:17 It's, it's on like the fourth or fifth episode I think.

Joe Rogan 1:04:20 Yeah, all those networks that don't stream everything-

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:23 ... like, they must be, it must suck-

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:25 Yo.

Joe Rogan 1:04:25 ... to have like a show that has to be on Thursday night at 8:00.

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:28 Losing out.

Joe Rogan 1:04:29 Just today's so weird.

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:30 People wanna watch things whenever they want to.

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:33 Like right now.

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:33 Yeah, for sure.

Narrator 1:04:34 It's a five part miniseries, the last episode is coming up this weekend.

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:37 (inhales) Losing out.

Joe Rogan 1:04:37 Oh, okay.

Narrator 1:04:37 So there you go.

Joe Rogan 1:04:38 How... Do you think that movie theaters will always be here?

Wiz Khalifa 1:04:41 Mm... I, mm, shit. Nah, I, I, I don't think, I think eventually they gonna be gone. What do you think?

Joe Rogan 1:04:48 I don't know, just, it's one of, I kinda, I like that they're real, you know? That there's a place you go.

Narrator 1:04:54 They've already kind of came and w- gone twice. If you look around old Hollywood, there's old theaters that aren't theaters anymore, but there's new theaters that have taken over them, but those buildings are still there for whatever reason.

Joe Rogan 1:05:04 Mm.

Narrator 1:05:04 I don't know, they're still using 'em or...

Joe Rogan 1:05:06 Well, people still like going to the movies.

Wiz Khalifa 1:05:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:08 It's like an, it's a night out thing.

Wiz Khalifa 1:05:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:10 You know?

Wiz Khalifa 1:05:11 I just feel like it costs so much to, like, keep screens-

Joe Rogan 1:05:14 Mm-hmm.

Wiz Khalifa 1:05:15 ... and actually put movies in there, and then you got the popcorn, and then it's like that's-

Joe Rogan 1:05:20 But it's one of the few things that we do in st- with strangers, is like be a part of an audience.

Wiz Khalifa 1:05:26 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:05:26 It's like one things, the few things we randomly do with giant groups of strangers. Like l-

Wiz Khalifa 1:05:29 But I feel like technology is like removing that because people don't like that.

Joe Rogan 1:05:34 I think people are uncomfortable with it because most the time we spend on devices.

Wiz Khalifa 1:05:39 Yeah, for sure.

Joe Rogan 1:05:39 Communicating through devices.

Wiz Khalifa 1:05:41 And especially with like virtual reality becoming more popular like-

Joe Rogan 1:05:45 Yeah.

Wiz Khalifa 1:05:45 ... you know, like, people love access so it's like, if you're making 'em feel like they're there, like, why would you want a random dude walking across your lap when you can