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Joe Rogan Experience #1306 - Wiz Khalifa

Wiz Khalifa is a rapper, singer, songwriter and actor. His new documentary "Wiz Khalifa: Behind the Cam" is available now on Apple Music. https://itunes.apple.com/us/show/wiz-khalifa-behind-the-cam/1451759246

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  1. 0:000:56

    Wiz’s MMA lifestyle and the “shredded” transformation

    1. JR

      (clears throat) (humming) And we're going live.

    2. WK

      Yes, sir. (laughs)

    3. JR

      (laughs) What you got on ... Social media?

    4. WK

      Mm-hmm. People love you, bro.

    5. JR

      People love you too. Oh, we're live? We're doing it right now.

    6. WK

      I'm super excited.

    7. JR

      So we, we've, uh, gawed ... What's the word? Gawked? What's the word when you ogled over someone's body?

    8. NA

      Sure.

    9. JR

      Well, dude, you got jacked.

    10. WK

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      You went from being skinny to shredded.

    12. WK

      Yeah, yeah.

    13. JR

      You're pretty serious about MMA training, man.

    14. WK

      It's really just about, like, the lifestyle. You know what I mean? You're a martial artist, so you know, freaking, the mind and the body and the soul go together, so-

    15. JR

      Yeah. For sure.

    16. WK

      All these things, I'm learning about them, I'm, I'm able to put them all together. You can't be a complete person until everything is together.

    17. JR

      Ooh.

    18. WK

      So, um, you know, spiritually I've already ascended above my peers. Now I'm taking my body up there.

    19. JR

      How are you doing that spiritually? Through that giant jug of weed you got on the table? (laughs)

    20. WK

      Exactly. (laughs) Stay high.

  2. 0:562:47

    Khalifa Kush, strain loyalty, and how much weed Wiz smokes

    1. JR

      Yeah, for the folks only listening, Wiz brought, literally, like, a, a Mason jar-

    2. WK

      Uh-huh.

    3. JR

      ... filled with weed.

    4. WK

      Yeah, yep. Yep. Yep. And it's, like, halfway full 'cause I was in the studio.

    5. JR

      Do you have specific strains that you like?

    6. WK

      Yeah, I smoke the KK, Khalifa Kush.

    7. JR

      Oh, you got your own shit?

    8. WK

      Yeah, yeah.

    9. JR

      Mmm.

    10. WK

      Yeah, absolutely. 'Cause I, I got tired of smoking all different types of weed, um. It's like a drink, you know what I'm saying?

    11. JR

      Mm-hmm, right.

    12. WK

      Like alcohol, people only drink dark liquor, whiskey or-

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. WK

      I only smoke KK.

    15. JR

      Only KK?

    16. WK

      Yeah, yep.

    17. JR

      Well, if you mix it up though, you'll get a big hit, right?

    18. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      Like, if, if you switch it up to somebody else's stuff, you're like, "Woo."

    20. WK

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      Like, your body's not n- ready for it.

    22. WK

      My head will go crazy and-

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. WK

      ... like, I'll really feel it. You'll see me, like, over in the corner stoned somewhere. (laughs)

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. WK

      I only have to smoke KK, that's it.

    27. JR

      That's the weed, weird thing about weed, right? Like, you, you get used to-

    28. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    29. JR

      ... a certain strain.

    30. WK

      Yeah. Like, I'll get physically, like, ill if I don't smoke my strain. I'll get runny nose-

  3. 2:474:02

    Weed normalization, parenting optics, and the messy legal landscape

    1. WK

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm happy how legal weed is these days because it's like, I would ... I- My son had a spring concert yesterday and I would feel like shit back in the day walking in there smelling like bud.

    2. JR

      Ha.

    3. WK

      'Cause he goes to private school-

    4. JR

      Right, right. (laughs)

    5. WK

      ... and it's like ... You know what I mean? It's a reflection on him.

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. WK

      So it's like, you know, you got the weed head dad-

    8. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    9. WK

      ... blah, blah, blah, this kind of other thing. But it's like nowadays, that shit is cool, like-

    10. JR

      No one cares.

    11. WK

      Nobody gives a fuck.

    12. JR

      Yeah, it, I've seen it happen 'cause I have a 22-year-old daughter, but then I also have an 11 and a nine-year-old.

    13. WK

      Uh-huh.

    14. JR

      And with the 22-year-old, when she was growing up, it was all weird. It was weird.

    15. WK

      Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

    16. JR

      It was like, if you were a ... you were a loser if you were smoking weed.

    17. WK

      Bro, playdates, you know what I'm saying? Like-

    18. JR

      Yeah, people coming over your house, you got weed at the house.

    19. WK

      Yeah, bro.

    20. JR

      Parents get weird.

    21. WK

      I live, like, right up the street from a school so, like, I'm getting real technical with it, like ... (laughs)

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. WK

      I'm in a school zone. (laughs) You know what I'm saying? Like-

    24. JR

      Like, legitimately, yeah.

    25. WK

      Bro, like, I could be-

    26. JR

      (laughs)

    27. WK

      ... not here right now.

    28. JR

      Incarcerated.

    29. WK

      For real. (laughs)

    30. JR

      Yeah. Did you see that lady they locked up today in Dallas? Did you see that shit?

  4. 4:025:31

    CBD as medicine, edibles going mainstream, and dosage pitfalls

    1. JR

      My wife's mom uses it for arthritis. It's great for older folks.

    2. WK

      CBD is the shit. My, uh, my ... I was about to call her my ex-baby's mom. She's still my baby's mom.

    3. JR

      (laughs)

    4. WK

      But she has another baby on the way in her new relationship, but she's able to take, uh, CBD during her pregnancy to help her, uh-

    5. JR

      Yeah.

    6. WK

      ... her nausea and all of that stuff.

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. WK

      So it's like, why would you hate on CBD, bro?

    9. JR

      No, it's amazing.

    10. WK

      It's the shit. It's-

    11. JR

      My friend's son has some seizures. He has, like-

    12. WK

      Mmm.

    13. JR

      ... some sort of epileptic seizure.

    14. WK

      Mmm. Mmm.

    15. JR

      Give him CBD, it's gone.

    16. WK

      That's amazing, man.

    17. JR

      Gives it every day, he doesn't have them anymore.

    18. WK

      That's amazing. I love that, though.

    19. JR

      It's incredible. It's-

    20. WK

      That's so good.

    21. JR

      It's almost, you feel like you're lying.

    22. WK

      Right.

    23. JR

      It does so many different things-

    24. WK

      Right.

    25. JR

      ... that when you talk about weed, you feel like you're lying.

    26. WK

      Yeah. I mean, like, these days, in this day and age, I was just telling somebody the other day, smoking pot is gonna be old school, like, you know what I mean? We're still gonna do it, but it's totally moving towards just ingesting it and-

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. WK

      ... rubbing it on and all that shit, so people-

    29. JR

      Sprays.

    30. WK

      Yeah, so people are less scared-

  5. 5:317:09

    Joe’s THC-pill ‘reality break’ and the jiu-jitsu predator story

    1. JR

      Like, I had a friend who made THC pills.

    2. WK

      Yep.

    3. JR

      And I was taking them at a party once and it was a party for a jujitsu tournament.

    4. WK

      Okay.

    5. JR

      So, 'cause it was a jujitsu tournament and then there was this party afterwards, and, uh, by the time the pills had kicked in, I, I have no idea how much was in there, 'cause it was, like, some handmade shit that this guy put together himself-

    6. WK

      Exactly, yeah, yeah.

    7. JR

      ... little capsules that you buy.

    8. WK

      Right. Right, right, right, right.

    9. JR

      It was as high as I've ever been in my life.

    10. WK

      Yep.

    11. JR

      Like, to the point where I wasn't even seeing people. I was seeing, like, a two-dimensional cutout of the person, and then behind them, I was seeing, like their true intention, their soul-

    12. WK

      Oh, yeah.

    13. JR

      ... like, peeking out.

    14. WK

      Yeah, yeah.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    15. JR

      I was really high.

    16. WK

      Fuck.

    17. JR

      And I was talking to this one dude, and he was just ... Uh, he's a, he was a high-level jujitsu guy who was r- he was really odd.

    18. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      It was a very strange feeling I got talking to this cat.

    20. WK

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      And then, um, like, a month later he was on the run for rape. Yeah, he, uh, had raped some woman and then he escaped. And then he was o- so addicted to jujitsu, the story was that he started training again with a fake name. But he was, like, this high-level black belt, and there's only that, this ... Especially back then when this happened, this is like the early 2000s, there's only a certain number of high-level black belts that are running around.

    22. WK

      Right.

    23. JR

      So he put on this fake Brazilian name and started training in, like, the Pacific Northwest.

    24. WK

      What the fuck?

    25. JR

      And then, uh, but he's strangling black belts and everybody's like, "What the fuck is, who is this guy?"

    26. WK

      Jesus Christ.

    27. JR

      So people asked, and someone took a picture of him, and they go, "That guy's wanted for rape."

    28. WK

      Oh, shit.

    29. JR

      Yeah, but I remember talking to him on these THC pills being like, uh, like some ... "There's some wiring that's not correct here with this."

    30. WK

      Oh, fuck.

  6. 7:099:08

    Mushrooms, reading intentions, and why Wiz doesn’t overdo psychedelics

    1. WK

      Yeah, they do, bro. I did mushrooms and they exposed a lot.

    2. JR

      Woo.

    3. WK

      Yeah, yep. Do you do 'shrooms?

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. WK

      Yeah, yep. I fuck with mushrooms 'cause-

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. WK

      ... that's what happened with me when I was on mushrooms. I was able to see people's true intentions.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. WK

      'Cause being a rapper and shit like that, you know, you'd be having to peel back the layers.

    10. JR

      Layers and layers and layers-

    11. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    12. JR

      ... and crips.

    13. WK

      And I was trying to peel my own layers back (laughs) just for my own-

    14. JR

      Sure.

    15. WK

      ... personal.

    16. JR

      Everyone is, right?

    17. WK

      And I ended up ... Yeah, yep. And I ended up being, like, backstage somewhere and I was like, "Fuck." I was like, "I'm around all these people and, like, I really see their true intentions." And then I was like, "I see what crowd they are," and it was like ... I felt like I was separated. You know what I mean?

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. WK

      And it was like ... I was on a boat all the way out here, and they were all on a, on a, all on an island partying, and then I was like, "Damn-"

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. WK

      "... I can see what's going on over there." But it was cool. It, uh, it h- ... I, like, m- ... I do mushrooms every now and then. I don't fuck with it all the time. I, I haven't done them in, like, three years 'cause they help you see shit like that. So it's like for me, I'll take that experience and I'll just live with it.

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. WK

      I don't need to keep going through it over and over. Like, you probably seen that dude and was like, "Oh, shit, now I know people who are rapey as- (laughs) as soon as I see them."

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. WK

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      But I knew he was dangerous.

    27. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      Like, he was a legitimately dangerous person. Like not just-

    29. WK

      That's insane, bro.

    30. JR

      Not just a trained killer, but he was dangerous, like, the way he thought about things.

  7. 9:0814:25

    Why fight culture produces high-character people (and why fans watch)

    1. JR

      When you think about the world of fighting and competition, I mean, you're dealing with people that are taking the biggest risks. They don't, they don't have to do that.

    2. WK

      Right.

    3. JR

      This is, like, a choice.

    4. WK

      Right.

    5. JR

      They could get a job. The choice is, I wanna get a job trying to fuck up other people-

    6. WK

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      ... who have a job trying to fuck up people.

    8. WK

      (exhales)

    9. JR

      The killers, the trained killers just going after each other.

    10. WK

      Right, right.

    11. JR

      And when you're around those dudes, one of the things you w- ... One of the things you realize very early on, you ha- ... You can have your preconceived notions about them being, like, m- like, mean people or-

    12. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      ... violent people.

    14. WK

      Right.

    15. JR

      They're people of character.

    16. WK

      Yes, sir.

    17. JR

      You have to have extreme character to pull off what they do.

    18. WK

      Yeah, yep.

    19. JR

      And some of the best people I've ever met in my life are fighters.

    20. WK

      Yeah, yep, yep.

    21. JR

      They, they're, they're a different breed of human being.

    22. WK

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      They chose that path. They chose it. No one's-

    24. WK

      Yep.

    25. JR

      No one's forcing 'em. We're not in war.

    26. WK

      Right.

    27. JR

      They decide to go and do that, and like-

    28. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    29. JR

      ... "Oof." That's why it's so exciting to watch, right?

    30. WK

      Right.

  8. 14:2516:17

    Weed + training synergy, gym culture, and how Wiz gained 35 pounds

    1. JR

      That's a good combination of getting to the bottom of shit, is weed and martial arts.

    2. WK

      Yeah, yup.

    3. JR

      That's a good combination.

    4. WK

      100%.

    5. JR

      It really is.

    6. WK

      I do ... Like, a lot of my thinking is just from, like, after I train, I just sit there and just think about nothing but ... You know what I mean?

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. WK

      Ideas come to me. How to deal with situations, you know what I mean?

    9. JR

      Right.

    10. WK

      Because it just ... I don't know. It just happens like that. It just flows.

    11. JR

      Yeah. Yeah, it flows.

    12. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      And I think, like, the training helps you get all the bullshit off your back.

    14. WK

      Right. Hell yeah.

    15. JR

      Right?

    16. WK

      Yeah, yup. Especially for me too, 'cause like, I party a lot.

    17. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    18. WK

      And I'm in the studio till, like, 5:00, 6:00 in the morning, and I'm drinking and stuff like that. So, to just be going down that path and doing that every day, bro, I look crazy. I feel crazy. (laughs) Like-

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. WK

      ... I have to get that off of me, like, out of me. You know what I mean?

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. WK

      That's why your gym is crazy, bro. I need to do something like that for myself.

    23. JR

      It's nice to have a place.

    24. WK

      At some point. Like, that's how I look at you, like the OG. So it's like, I'm not going to go do it tomorrow, like, "Hey, everybody build me a gym."

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. WK

      But, you know, eventually, that's the goal. When I look back, I'll be like, "I seen Joe's gym and that's, that's what made me."

    27. JR

      Well, dude, you train hard. I've seen your videos.

    28. WK

      Yeah, I w- I w- I, I get to work.

    29. JR

      You, you work out at Unbreakable?

    30. WK

      Yeah, yup.

  9. 16:1720:12

    Sparring with legends and the ‘play’ style of Thai sparring

    1. JR

      And s- doesn't Snoop train there too?

    2. WK

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      There's this video of Snoop sparring. He's sparring Daniel Sarrafian.

    4. WK

      Yeah. Daniel's fucking crazy. You ever met that dude? (laughs)

    5. JR

      He's a beast. Yeah, I know that guy.

    6. WK

      (laughs) Yeah, yo, Daniel is crazy.

    7. JR

      I've called his fights before.

    8. WK

      Daniel-

    9. JR

      He's a tank.

    10. WK

      He is crazy. He love-

    11. JR

      That guy's a tank.

    12. WK

      ... nuts. His thing is like, "Yo, I gotta get hit." Pshhh. I'm like, "All right, Daniel." You know?

    13. JR

      He's gotta get hit to wake himself up?

    14. WK

      Yeah, go ahead.

    15. JR

      Wow. The- there is-

    16. WK

      Take those hits, Danny.

    17. JR

      There's Snoop sparring with him.

    18. WK

      Yeah, and Snoop-

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. WK

      ... was going at it too. He was trying to take him out.

    21. JR

      Dude, Snoop throws some good shots, man.

    22. WK

      Oh, that's them right there.

    23. JR

      Yeah, Snoop's got-

    24. WK

      Uh.

    25. JR

      ... skills. He really does.

    26. WK

      I'm glad Daniel ducked that one. Uh, uh.

    27. JR

      Yeah, I mean, look-

    28. WK

      Get him, Snoop. Oh.

    29. JR

      I guarantee you Snoop would fuck up-

    30. WK

      Look, that's funny right there.

  10. 20:1223:17

    Kicking mechanics, Taekwondo’s ‘crazy dexterity,’ and technique as a universal law

    1. WK

      You got some crazy kicks.

    2. JR

      Thank you.

    3. WK

      Yeah. I seen, uh, what was it? A side kick that you did?

    4. JR

      Probably turning side kicks.

    5. WK

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. WK

      Yeah, you gotta teach me that.

    8. JR

      I'll teach you that.

    9. WK

      Yeah. I want the-

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. WK

      I just need the form, 'cause I'm learning just a regular side kick, like a slide or, you know what I mean?

    12. JR

      You should go to, like, a Taekwondo school. They'd be the best at showing you how to do it.

    13. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    14. JR

      I'll definitely show you how, but-

    15. WK

      Yep.

    16. JR

      ... if you need a place to train, find, like, a really good Taekwondo school.

    17. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    18. JR

      'Cause one thing, Taekwondo has some things that, you know, won't work in MMA if you're y- adding take-downs and-

    19. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    20. JR

      ... punches to the face, but because they don't punch to the face in tournaments-

    21. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    22. JR

      ... you get used to doing crazy kicks.

    23. WK

      Crazy-ass kicks. Creative.

    24. JR

      So they have a lot of weird d- a lot of weird leg dexterity stuff.

    25. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    26. JR

      And if you get good at that stuff, I think that's... Like, if I had a kid that wanted to fight, I would say, "Let's just do some, um, Kyokushin or some Taekwondo first."

    27. WK

      Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      "Just do some karate, something where you, you're developing leg dexterity."

    29. WK

      Yeah. Hell yeah.

    30. JR

      Then, as you get a little older, then move you into Muay Thai."

  11. 23:1748:28

    Wiz’s songwriting workflow, studio setup, and redefining “work” as passion

    1. JR

      When, when you write, do you write things out or do you, do you do it out in your head?

    2. WK

      Hmm.

    3. JR

      Like, I know Jay-Z supposedly doesn't write anything, right?

    4. WK

      Mm-mm.

    5. JR

      He just keeps it all in his head-

    6. WK

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    7. JR

      ... which is incredible-

    8. WK

      It's awesome.

    9. JR

      ... that he can do that.

    10. WK

      Right.

    11. JR

      It's kind of in- insane.

    12. WK

      Yeah, yeah. Yep. I have, I have different processes. So, like, for me, I kinda... I, I have melodies. Like, I'll sing and I'll rap. So it's a lot easier for me to just have a melody in my head and make up the words as I go. But if I'm writing lyrics, like writing words down where I actually rap it-... that's when I'm gonna use the paper, you know?

    13. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    14. WK

      But there's different ways to do it, 'cause I- honestly, this is what my studio setup looks like. It's like a chair. The mic is right here. I don't go in the booth or anything, and my engineer's sitting right there. So, it's like we're, we're coming up with it as w- as we go, like...

    15. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    16. WK

      I'll take a little break, just write something down, and then I'll just jump, jump straight back on it. You know what I mean? So, it, there's different techniques, though, 'cause a lot of the time, sometimes I won't write shit. I'll just go and just make it up and just keep going, keep flowing, or there's times where I could just lay a melody and then write the words to it later. So, it's just different, you know, ways to approach it.

    17. JR

      So, you just do it based on however you feel that day?

    18. WK

      Mm-hmm. Whatever the track really calls for. It's like, if, if the song is something that I get instant inspiration, I'm like, "Oh, I'm gonna knock it out right now." Or if something that I wanna live with for a little bit, I'll just do as much as I'm happy with at that point, and then move on to the next thing.

    19. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    20. WK

      Come back to it later and just make sure everything is fresh. I like to keep everything fresh, keep it fun, keep it loose, and I don't really overthink anything. If it's not there, then I just go, go away from it and find something that's more fun. (laughs)

    21. JR

      (laughs)

    22. WK

      Hell, yeah. (laughs)

    23. JR

      That's a, it's a beautiful freedom to be able-

    24. WK

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      ... to do that.

    26. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    27. JR

      You know?

    28. WK

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      Y- you obviously picked the right fucking job.

    30. WK

      (laughs)

  12. 48:281:04:38

    Early ambition: third grade rapper dreams, Pittsburgh grind, and first deal at 16

    1. JR

      Like, how, how old were you when you knew you wanted to be a rapper?

    2. WK

      Uh, I think I was in third grade.

    3. JR

      (laughs)

    4. WK

      So, real shit. (laughs)

    5. JR

      (laughs) (clapping)

    6. WK

      I think I was in third grade.

    7. JR

      That's amazing.

    8. WK

      I wanted, I wanted to be a Ninja Turtle and I wanted to be a rapper.

    9. JR

      (laughs)

    10. WK

      And I think a rapper was, like, a little bit more realistic. I'm working on being a Ninja Turtle now.

    11. JR

      (laughs)

    12. WK

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      That's amazing.

    14. WK

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Third grade.

    16. WK

      Yeah, third grade, I was-

    17. JR

      How old were you in third grade again? You're nine?

    18. WK

      Yeah. You nine? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's when I started writing my first raps and shit.

    19. JR

      Dude, that is hilarious.

    20. WK

      Yeah, I was, like, watching music videos. And I remember seeing, like, Puffy and Biggie and Bone Thugs-N-Harmony is, like, one of my favorite groups.

    21. JR

      Wow.

    22. WK

      So it was like, "Yo, if I can do that, I'll be a'ight." And then, um, by the time I was, like, 13, uh, that's when the internet was really popular, so you could download, like, instrumentals and shit like that. So you didn't have to, like, have beats or anything.

    23. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    24. WK

      And then they started introducing, you know, uh, at home equipment. They had, like, little TASCAM four-track little bullshit thing that you could ... You know what I mean?

    25. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    26. WK

      So I started fucking around on that, like, doing my own little home studio. Then FruityLoops came out and started making beats. Cool Edit Pro was, like, the, the program back then before Pro Tools. And yeah, that's how I got my start, like, just in the fucking ... In the, in the crib, just putting it together. Then I turned, like ... Then by the time I was, like, 16, I got, like, an internship at a, at a studio in Pittsburgh where I was literally, like, answering the phones and running errands and going to pick up, like, office supplies and shit like that, and in return, they would pay me with studio time. So, like, I would just record, like, off ... You know what I mean? Off the clock.

    27. JR

      Right.

    28. WK

      You know what I mean? And I had, like, four or five songs, and that turned into a record deal.

    29. JR

      Wow.

    30. WK

      Yup, got my first deal at 16.

  13. 1:04:381:30:02

    Tech acceleration: streaming, VR futures, batteries, Teslas, and ‘spoon-fed’ innovation

    1. JR

      How... Do you think that movie theaters will always be here?

    2. WK

      Mm... I, mm, shit. Nah, I, I, I don't think, I think eventually they gonna be gone. What do you think?

    3. JR

      I don't know, just, it's one of, I kinda, I like that they're real, you know? That there's a place you go.

    4. NA

      They've already kind of came and w- gone twice. If you look around old Hollywood, there's old theaters that aren't theaters anymore, but there's new theaters that have taken over them, but those buildings are still there for whatever reason.

    5. JR

      Mm.

    6. NA

      I don't know, they're still using 'em or...

    7. JR

      Well, people still like going to the movies.

    8. WK

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      It's like an, it's a night out thing.

    10. WK

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      You know?

    12. WK

      I just feel like it costs so much to, like, keep screens-

    13. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    14. WK

      ... and actually put movies in there, and then you got the popcorn, and then it's like that's-

    15. JR

      But it's one of the few things that we do in st- with strangers, is like be a part of an audience.

    16. WK

      Mm-hmm.

    17. JR

      It's like one things, the few things we randomly do with giant groups of strangers. Like l-

    18. WK

      But I feel like technology is like removing that because people don't like that.

    19. JR

      I think people are uncomfortable with it because most the time we spend on devices.

    20. WK

      Yeah, for sure.

    21. JR

      Communicating through devices.

    22. WK

      And especially with like virtual reality becoming more popular like-

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. WK

      ... you know, like, people love access so it's like, if you're making 'em feel like they're there, like, why would you want a random dude walking across your lap when you can just be in the movie, like...

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