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Joe Rogan Experience #1316 - Abby Martin

Abby Martin is a journalist and host of the “The Empire Files” — http://theempirefiles.tv The Empire Files documentary "Gaza Fight For Freedom" will be available soon. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG29FnXZm4F5U8xpqs1cs1Q

Joe RoganhostAbby Martinguest
Jun 25, 20192h 16mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Abby Martin Dissects U.S. Empire, Media Control, and Modern Warfare

  1. Joe Rogan and journalist Abby Martin discuss U.S. foreign policy, focusing on historical and current examples of regime change, sanctions, drone warfare, and the push for war with Iran and Venezuela.
  2. They examine how corporate media and tech platforms shape public perception, censor dissenting or ‘radical’ views, and increasingly curate reality through algorithms and deplatforming.
  3. The conversation also covers domestic issues like reparations, student debt, healthcare, automation, and the 2020 Democratic field, highlighting Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard as the only candidates Martin views as meaningfully anti-war or anti-establishment.
  4. Martin promotes her independent work, especially her film on Gaza, arguing that U.S. support for Israel and broader empire-building are central drivers of global suffering and environmental destruction.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Sanctions and drone strikes are not ‘soft’ tools but lethal acts of war.

Martin argues that U.S. sanctions on countries like Iran and Venezuela are directly killing civilians by blocking medicine and food, and that drone strikes routinely kill large numbers of non-combatants, breeding more extremism rather than reducing it.

Corporate and legacy media largely serve state and corporate power.

She contends that major outlets mostly echo U.S. foreign policy talking points, selectively amplify ‘enemy’ atrocities, and marginalize voices critical of empire, undermining journalism’s supposed role of challenging power.

Big Tech platforms are quietly curating political reality through algorithms.

Rogan and Martin describe how Google, YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter can down-rank, demonetize, age-restrict, or deplatform content—often targeting ‘extreme’ or system-challenging views—while privileging establishment sources, all under opaque rules.

Identity politics can mask continuity of neoliberal, pro-war policy.

They criticize slogans like ‘we need a woman president’ or blanket rejections of ‘straight white men’ as distractions that allow corporate-friendly candidates (e.g., Harris, Buttigieg, Warren) to appear progressive while backing punitive or hawkish policies.

Economic injustice in the U.S. is structurally tied to empire and capitalism.

The discussion links reparations, mass incarceration, student debt, and crumbling infrastructure to historic slavery, systemic racism, and a political economy that prioritizes military spending and corporate profit over healthcare, education, and public welfare.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Sanctions are an act of war. They’re killing people right now.

Abby Martin

We don’t have a place we can go for clear, unbiased, emotion‑free, objective analysis of any international issue.

Joe Rogan

The Pentagon is the largest polluter in the world—more than about 140 countries combined.

Abby Martin

We have all the information at our fingertips, but we still keep reverting back to the myths that underpin our society.

Abby Martin

I don’t think hope is going to come from within Congress. It’s going to come from a grassroots, mobilized effort.

Abby Martin

Historical and modern U.S. regime change, assassinations, and the role of the CIASanctions, drone warfare, and the drive toward conflict with Iran and VenezuelaMedia propaganda, corporate news bias, and Big Tech censorship/algorithmsReparations, institutional racism, and long-term economic inequality in the U.S.2020 Democratic candidates, identity politics, and the limits of electoral changeIsrael–Palestine, Gaza protests, and alleged war crimes by the Israeli militaryAutomation, universal basic income, and the future of work and meaning

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