CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 2:54
Texas reunion, choke attempts, and why jiu-jitsu is addictive
Joe welcomes Andrew to Texas and they immediately riff on Schulz trying (and failing) to choke Joe out the night before. The conversation turns into why jiu-jitsu is uniquely appealing: you can go near-100% effort, learn real resistance, and build practical confidence.
- 2:54 – 7:47
Olympic karate controversy: knockouts, point fighting, and kata ‘dancing’ medals
They react to the viral Olympic karate clip where a competitor gets KO’d but wins because the other fighter is disqualified for excessive contact. From there, they roast the idea of kata as a medal event while debating how forms relate to real fighting ability.
- 7:47 – 10:39
Birthday gifts, Austin weirdness, and the ‘New York is doomed’ debate
Schulz gives Rogan a birthday present and they joke about aging, partying, and the infamous “Golden Tiger” dinner. A wild story about a near-naked man with a knife breaking into Schulz’s complex becomes a springboard for arguing about whether New York or Austin is more chaotic.
- 10:39 – 18:54
Cuomo scandal satire and ‘I’m Italian’ as a defense
Jamie introduces Kyle Dunnigan’s Cuomo parody, and they watch and laugh through it. The conversation expands into Cuomo’s real defense video montage and how public figures try to normalize inappropriate behavior as cultural warmth.
- 18:54 – 21:57
Biden sniffing clips, cognitive decline, and power corrupting in politics
Schulz compares Cuomo’s vibe to Biden’s public awkwardness, arguing people over-index on optics vs competence. Rogan argues the public behavior is itself a sign of decline, and they widen the lens to presidents, scandal fatigue, and how power attracts predators.
- 21:57 – 28:36
Epstein aftermath: blackmail theory, Ghislaine’s role, and why people stop caring
They dig into why the Epstein story feels unresolved: potential kompromat, elite networks, and massive payoffs. Schulz frames it as ‘issue saturation’—too many crises competing for attention—while Rogan emphasizes the stakes if blackmail tapes existed.
- 28:36 – 37:18
Comedy audiences, ‘woke’ pushback, and how to build jokes for hostile rooms
Schulz explains how New York crowds can be performative or cautious, especially when people attend with coworkers. Rogan argues that mixed lineups (Cellar/Store-style) force comics to refine material, creating a ‘cross-training’ effect that sharpens stand-up.
- 37:18 – 44:21
Schulz’s near-drowning surfing story and BJ Penn’s wave-pool nightmare
Schulz recounts nearly drowning in Lanai when his leash wrapped on coral and he ran out of air underwater. He connects survival to a tip he’d recently learned, then shares BJ Penn’s terrifying story of being sucked into a wave pool’s engine room.
- 44:21 – 52:28
North Korea debate: skepticism vs documented atrocities and propaganda
Schulz questions whether some North Korea escape stories are exaggerated or shaped by competing propaganda, while Rogan insists the regime’s brutality is well documented. They discuss escape barriers, camps, public executions, and the performative mourning footage after Kim Jong Il’s death.
- 52:28 – 55:52
Miami ‘balling,’ Europe tour ideas, and building a traveling content crew
Rogan teases Schulz about leveling up in Miami—watch, lifestyle, and momentum—and floats the idea of a Europe-based run mixing shows and podcasts. Schulz outlines his large touring crew and the roles behind modern comedy production (openers, directing, documentary, deal-making).
- 55:52 – 1:14:27
Australia lockdowns, variants, vaccines, monoclonals, and ‘leaky’ protection
They react to Tim Dillon’s Australia jokes and use it to critique strict lockdown policy and quarantine rules. The conversation shifts into variants (Lambda), monoclonal antibody success stories, and debate about vaccine incentives, breakthrough cases, and risk perception.
- 1:14:27 – 1:26:16
Border COVID testing, ICE detention centers, and who’s running the Biden admin
Rogan and Schulz question the logic of requiring tests for legal travel while allegedly not testing many migrants in detention settings. Jamie pulls data about limited ICE testing, prompting Rogan to argue it’s politically concealed; they end with riffs about Biden’s confusion and implausible statistics.
- 1:26:16 – 1:33:59
Tequila, cigars, ‘allowed’ accents, and how corporate virtue signaling works
They take tequila shots, light up cigars, and slide into a cultural conversation about what kinds of impressions or words are considered acceptable. The thread becomes a critique of performative progressivism—how corporations use diversity messaging as a distraction from exploitative behavior.
- 1:33:59 – 3:11:12
Drones, metadata targeting, Yemeni diaspora, boxing legends, and the car/F1 rabbit hole
They riff from Yemen and drone strikes into how modern targeting can rely on phone metadata, leading to civilian deaths and extremist recruitment. The mood pivots into sports and toys: Prince Naseem highlights, Pacquiao talk, Errol Spence’s crash, Rogan’s Porsche obsession, F1 speed comparisons, and stimulants—ending with a note on performance focus and relationship chaos around fighters.
