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Joe Rogan Experience #1721 - Michael Malice

Michael Malice is a cultural commentator and host of the PodcastOne podcast "Your Welcome." He's the author of two books, "Dear Reader: The Unauthorized Autobiography of Kim Jong Il," and "The New Right: A Journey to the Fringe of American Politics."

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Jun 27, 20243h 14mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Cold open: ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ and how internet memes catch fire

    Joe and Michael riff on the ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ slogan and why certain jokes suddenly become ubiquitous. They use examples of viral image macros and recurring reaction GIFs to poke fun at how “the internet” seems coordinated even when it isn’t.

  2. Memes as a new comedy language—and why institutions can’t handle them

    They zoom out into memes as a genuine new comedic medium with its own masters and rules. Malice argues establishment figures struggle because memes flatten status and make authority look ridiculous.

  3. Colin Powell, vaccination status, and the fight over pandemic narratives

    The conversation pivots to Colin Powell’s death and the way people weaponize it online. Joe questions how hospitals and governments label “vaccinated vs. unvaccinated,” and they discuss boosters and shifting definitions.

  4. Keith Olbermann vs. trolling: why silliness disarms rage

    Joe and Michael dissect Olbermann’s online persona and why he becomes an easy target for ridicule. They talk about trolling as a strategy—meeting anger with humor—and how that changes the power dynamic.

  5. Lex Fridman, Austin migration, and why big cities feel broken

    They praise Lex Fridman’s style and character, then segue into moving to Austin and the broader exodus from New York/Los Angeles. Both describe the cultural and policy environment in those cities as increasingly hostile to normal life and small business.

  6. Lockdowns, ‘optics,’ and the destruction of small businesses

    They argue COVID policies disproportionately harmed mom-and-pop shops while empowering big-box retail and tech platforms. Joe recounts a story that outdoor dining closures were justified by “optics,” not data, and they discuss the human cost down the economic ladder.

  7. Social media: accountability tool or anxiety accelerator?

    Malice celebrates social media as a check on hypocrisy; Joe worries it also amplifies panic and hyperbole. They compare today’s media ecosystem to the Iraq War era to illustrate how dissent and parody now travel faster.

  8. Corporate media incentives: paid Pfizer posts, ‘horse dewormer’ framing, and authority collapse

    They react to examples of corporate-media alignment with pharma messaging, including a ‘paid post’ and ivermectin coverage. Joe argues selective framing damages trust, while Malice emphasizes obedience and institutional status maintenance.

  9. CNN vs. a meme: doxxing threats, the Streisand effect, and legacy-media panic

    They revisit CNN’s response to the Trump wrestling meme and read language implying the network could reveal a user’s identity. The discussion becomes a broader point about institutional overreach backfiring online and the end of true privacy.

  10. Sanjay Gupta ‘hostage video’ media tour: clips, framing, and natural immunity debate

    Joe plays and critiques Erin Burnett/Sanjay Gupta segments about his vaccine stance and audience. They argue short-form TV editing creates distortions, then get into competing claims about natural immunity, breakthrough cases, and how quickly vaccine protection wanes.

  11. Vaccine risk, side effects, and why health/fitness isn’t part of the official message

    Joe shares anecdotal reports of severe post-vaccine reactions (especially after prior infection) and discusses ingredients like polyethylene glycol and allergy risk. They agree vaccines help many—especially older people—but argue public messaging ignores lifestyle, prevention, and individualized risk assessment.

  12. Who are the ‘bad guys’? Universities, overclass training, and the anarchism turn

    Malice argues universities are upstream of elite ideological conformity and status signaling, producing uniform worldviews across media and culture. Joe pushes on whether there’s an ‘overlord’ or decentralized incentives, which transitions into governance, hierarchy, and anarchist assumptions about human nature.

  13. Human nature on an island: Lord of the Flies, cooperation, and the role of the ‘worst guy’

    They debate whether people default to cooperation or violence when authority disappears. Malice cites a real shipwreck story contradicting Lord of the Flies; Joe counters that variance in individuals means one sociopath can dominate or destroy a small group—mirroring how politics can hijack cooperation.

  14. Comedy, ‘protected classes,’ and the Chappelle backlash as status warfare

    They argue that jokes are being treated as literal hatred and that outrage often functions as a bid for status by lower-profile critics. Using Dave Chappelle as the example, they discuss sacred-cow politics, cancellation attempts, and how controversy can backfire by boosting attention.

  15. Lighter detours: moving-day denim panic, hemp history, and counterfeit money

    The tone shifts into personal anecdotes and curiosities: Malice’s missing denim collection after moving, and Joe’s fascination with hemp as a historical industrial material. They end on currency durability and North Korea’s reputation for high-quality counterfeit bills, teeing up Malice’s North Korea expertise.

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