Joe Rogan Experience #1721 - Michael Malice

1. 0:00 – 1:51

   Cold open: “Let’s Go Brandon,” meme culture, and how internet jokes spread

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

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   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Michael Malice, has there ever been a person in history-

   4. MMMichael Malice0:15

      (laughs) Here we go.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      ... that has more support than this fellow, Brandon?

   6. MMMichael Malice0:18

      (laughs) Let's go, Brandon!

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      It seems like that is the most popular person I've ever come across. Everyone is in support of this Brandon fella.

   8. MMMichael Malice0:28

      There, there's this internet meme about, I think his name is Kyle, uh, who drinks Monster Red Bull and puts his fist through drywall. Is that the- is that Kyle- is that name Kyle? But Brandon, um-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:38

      I don't know about Kyle.

   10. MMMichael Malice0:39

       Kyle's- Kyle is a white kid who drinks a lot of Monster-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       (laughs)

   12. MMMichael Malice0:43

       ... and puts his fist through- through drywall.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       (laughs)

   14. MMMichael Malice0:46

       Uh, Brandon is, uh, everywhere.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Well, I don't know this Kyle fella though. Is this a f- a popular meme?

   16. MMMichael Malice0:51

       I thi-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Oh, here it is.

   18. MMMichael Malice0:52

       Yeah, there it is. Kyle, I was right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Okay, so Kyle just punches shit?

   20. MMMichael Malice0:55

       When he drinks a lot of Monster.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       It, uh, the- it's so crazy how, like, something will become popular. You know? Like that one guy, the- the large fella that's, uh, sitting on the edge of the bed with his giant cock hanging over the bed.

   22. MMMichael Malice1:09

       Yes, yes. That-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       That one picture of this fella and his big dick...

   24. MMMichael Malice1:13

       This is the most boomer conversation. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       (laughs)

   26. MMMichael Malice1:16

       You know how on the internet, Jamie, these pictures-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:19

       (laughs)

   28. MMMichael Malice1:19

       ... get names and the kids share them.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       How does-

   30. MMMichael Malice1:22

       And who- who- how do these pictures come from?
2. 1:51 – 3:50

   Memes as a new comedic medium—and why institutions can’t handle them

   1. MMMichael Malice1:51

      I'm trying to think of what my favorite meme is. Uh, and there's one that's not a meme, it's just a funny picture, but what do I use all the time? Like, the one I use is, um, it's not a meme, it's a GIF, when f- like, people on Twitter ask me, like, a bunch of questions in a row in, like, one tweet. I just reply with The Riddler 'cause it's all these question marks.

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:08

      Oh.

   3. MMMichael Malice2:08

      But that's not that clever particularly. What is, like, some- what is the best meme? I'm blanking. I can't th- I- I can't think-

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:15

      There's a lot of good ones. There's a lot of good ones. There's so many good ones. I mean, it's just- the- the beauty of it is it's really a new form of comedy. You know? Like, internet meme comedy is a new form of comedy, and it's a brilliant form of comedy that some people are masters at. Really like a Dave Chappelle, like a- they're masters- like a comic is a master, they're masters at this weird new form that's only existed for, like, 15 years now.

   5. MMMichael Malice2:47

      And the greatest thing is that, uh, establishment figures don't know what to do with this.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:52

      Oh, this is one of my favorites. I'm gonna show you this new one.

   7. MMMichael Malice2:55

      Let me see.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:55

      Hold on. Jamie, I'm gonna send this to you. This is one of my new favorite memes because it's-

   9. MMMichael Malice3:01

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:02

       There's just so- there's so many of them, but this one is, like- this is my favorite of the time. This is ... Hold on. All right. I sent it to you, Jamie.

   11. MMMichael Malice3:13

       Let's see this.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:14

       This is my favorite-

   13. MMMichael Malice3:15

       Fun role.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:15

       ... of today, of this- this-

   15. MMMichael Malice3:17

       Oh, this is the one with the- with the drinking water? The engine coolant? Was that the one?

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:20

       No.

   17. MMMichael Malice3:20

       Okay.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:21

       No, no, no. That's a good one too, but that- I actually know the guy.

   19. MMMichael Malice3:23

       Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, this is a wi-

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:24

       This is my favorite.

   21. MMMichael Malice3:24

       I've- this has been around for a while. Oh, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:25

       Cover me harder, daddy. (laughs)

   23. MMMichael Malice3:27

       Yeah, yeah. But that's the NPC meme which I explained on this show-

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:31

       (laughs)

   25. MMMichael Malice3:31

       ... a few times ago when I was on.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:32

       That- this is an NPC as well?

   27. MMMichael Malice3:34

       Yeah. You- that's- they're- they're gray and they have that- that- that, uh-

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       Oh, that's what those- those things are. Okay.

   29. MMMichael Malice3:38

       Oh, yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:39

       That's right. You did explain that. NPCs, yeah.
3. 3:50 – 6:21

   Colin Powell’s death, vaccine status, and how ‘vaccinated’ gets redefined

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:50

      I saw someone today on Twitter that was ranting this, like, vitriolic, just nasty rant about unvaccinated people causing the death of Colin Powell.

   2. MMMichael Malice4:05

      So, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:07

      Well, here's the deal. The guy had blood cancer.

   4. MMMichael Malice4:11

      Oh, shit. I didn't- leukemia?

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:12

      Y- no. It's, uh, a different kind. I- an- what is it called?

   6. NANarrator4:17

      Mileom-a...

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:18

      Yeah. It's- it's a very severe form of blood cancer that d- severely impacts the immune system apparently, and might have even rendered his vaccination ineffective 'cause he was vaccinated. So-

   8. MMMichael Malice4:31

      He was double vaccinated, I believe. Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:33

      Yeah. Whatever that means, you know, fully vaccinated.

   10. MMMichael Malice4:36

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:36

       It's not even fully anymore. Do you know that at six months after the- the vaccine, some hospitals are not counting you as vaccinated six months after fully vaccinated? This comes from some woman that was working at a hospital that was talking about cases of vaccinated versus unvaccinated people that were admitted- admitted to the ICU, and she was saying the people that are in the hospital, they're- in her particular hospital, she was saying when someone's been vaccinated six months ago, they list them as unvaccinated.

   12. MMMichael Malice5:05

       Well, that's why they need those boosters in perpetuity, right? That's the-

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:07

       Yeah, but this is crazy. Like, th- they are fucking vaccinated and they're listing them in the hospital as unvaccinated and jacking up the unvaccinated numbers.

   14. MMMichael Malice5:16

       But I think it goes the other way that if it- if the efficacy is only six months, they're jacking up the numbers of people who are vaccinated to try to make it seem like only a tiny minority aren't when, oh, that 70% or whatever it is-

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:27

       Right.

   16. MMMichael Malice5:27

       ... some of them are no longer effectively vaccinated.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:29

       Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

   18. MMMichael Malice5:30

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:30

       Yeah. They're- they're making it seem like the people that are in the hospital are unvaccinated when they're actually vaccinated, but they've passed this arbitrary expiration date that this one hospital has put on it. But it's an-

   20. MMMichael Malice5:41

       Wait, is it arbitrary? I thought it has a- it- I thought it has, like, a half-life.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:45

       Well-... arbitrary in terms of the hospital making the designation, right? Me- making the distinction that this is an unvaccinated person. Like, there's nowhere else that makes that distinction. Like, the- the federal government, the- the airlines, like New York City when you go to restaurants, all these places that have vaccine mandates, the mandate in America... In Israel now, you're considered unvaccinated if you have two shots and you don't have three.

   22. MMMichael Malice6:09

       Okay.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:09

       They consider you unvaccinated. Like-

   24. MMMichael Malice6:11

       But Israel's rates are through the roof too.

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:12

       Through the roof.

   26. MMMichael Malice6:13

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:13

       But meanwhile, it's- it doesn't seem to be having an impact. The booster doesn't seem to be having an impact, except with Keith Olbermann. It seems to be making him fucking crazier.

4. 6:21 – 14:16

   Keith Olbermann, trolling dynamics, and why anger loses to ridicule

   1. MMMichael Malice6:21

      Did you see how I clowned him-

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:22

      Yes, I did.

   3. MMMichael Malice6:22

      ... so badly?

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:23

      It was beautiful.

   5. MMMichael Malice6:23

      It was so fun.

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:24

      It was beautiful.

   7. MMMichael Malice6:25

      It was so fun. But he-

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:26

      He doesn't know who he's fucking with.

   9. MMMichael Malice6:27

      (laughs) He-

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:28

       He doesn't know.

   11. MMMichael Malice6:28

       He knows now, motherfucker.

   12. JRJoe Rogan6:31

       (laughs)

   13. MMMichael Malice6:31

       This angry old lesbian-

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:33

       (laughs)

   15. MMMichael Malice6:33

       ... it's ... Here's the thing. If- if- if Jamie, if you go to my likes on my Twitter, you'll see this-

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:37

       What this means-

   17. MMMichael Malice6:37

       ... side by side.

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:37

       ... what you're saying is rude to angry old lesbians-

   19. MMMichael Malice6:39

       Okay, that's-

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:40

       ... 'cause there's a lot of angry old lesbians that are really cool.

   21. MMMichael Malice6:42

       Fine. Let's just say he's doing a very bad Bea Arthur impression.

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:44

       (laughs)

   23. MMMichael Malice6:44

       Here's the thing, the guy has a resume that can't be beat. Sportscaster-

   24. JRJoe Rogan6:48

       Yes.

   25. MMMichael Malice6:48

       ... political ... Uh, he's got this enormous career.

   26. JRJoe Rogan6:50

       I used to enjoy him.

   27. MMMichael Malice6:51

       And then you, single-handedly you and Alex, make him into an internet laughingstock, and he doesn't know what to do about it, and he starts yelling about rogan mutton heads-

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:01

       (laughs)

   29. MMMichael Malice7:01

       ... like an 80 ... "You rogan mutton head."

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:03

       But he called me Mr. Afraid.
5. 14:16 – 18:33

   New York & LA decline, lockdown fallout, and small businesses getting crushed

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:16

      That's hilarious. That's amazing. I- I love that you're here. I- I mean, it's so cool. There's so many cool people moving to the city.

   2. MMMichael Malice14:22

      Blair White moved in the same day as me. Rucka Rucka Ali moved here as well. He's a- a music video guy. Uh, I don't miss New York at all.

   3. JRJoe Rogan14:31

      Yeah.

   4. MMMichael Malice14:31

      Like at all. And-

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:32

      I don't miss California at all either. LA can eat ass.

   6. MMMichael Malice14:35

      L- LA has gotten worse than New York.

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:36

      Yeah. Yeah, it has.

   8. MMMichael Malice14:37

      Which is shocking to- and it's gonna get- uh, there's no mechanism to turn it around.

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:41

      Not only is there no mechanism, it's- there's like a suicide pact to keep the same path-

   10. MMMichael Malice14:46

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:46

       ... and pretend that it's working or pretend it's the only way to do it.

   12. MMMichael Malice14:50

       I remember, uh, some time maybe 15 years ago, I was at Washington Square Park looking north up Fifth Avenue and this is when they were talking about Al-Qaeda having a dirty bomb maybe bring a suitcase and detonating it and like blowing up New York. And I thought to myself, "If they take out this city, take me with it." Like I can't- this is me.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:08

       Right.

   14. MMMichael Malice15:08

       I lived there since I was two. I still don't know how to drive. And for watching what they did to New York w- has been, I've talked about this a lot, has been so heartbreaking, uh, and- and traumatic. And moving was so hard, but now that I left, I don't miss it at all.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:26

       Listen, I love New York, but I love it to visit.

   16. MMMichael Malice15:29

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       You know, I was just there. I did Madison Square Garden a couple weeks ago. It was magic. I was like, "Oh my god, I'm doing the Garden."

   18. MMMichael Malice15:34

       Yeah, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       "This is amazing."

   20. MMMichael Malice15:34

       Of course.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       And then I couldn't wait to get the fuck out of there.

   22. MMMichael Malice15:37

       Yeah. It's- 'cause all the things that make New York special have been destroyed.

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       De Blasio ruined everything.

   24. MMMichael Malice15:42

       De Blasio did more damage to New York than Mohammed Atta. It's not even close.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Way more.

   26. MMMichael Malice15:46

       Way more. It's not even close.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       Way more.

   28. MMMichael Malice15:47

       And intentionally. And he's gonna do a lot of nasty things on his way out and it's not even a question. Um-

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       What do you think he's gonna be able to do?

   30. MMMichael Malice15:52

       I don't know. But there's no way- like what- what about Cuomo? Cuomo pardoned that terrorist on his way out. So, one of the weathermen-
6. 18:33 – 22:10

   ‘It’s about the optics’: COVID rules, anxiety culture, and moralized fear

   1. JRJoe Rogan18:33

      ... and go to a restaurant because the flu is around. Now you no longer have the chance because big daddy government is gonna look after you. And I have a friend whose brother works for the state, and he's a part of this whole COVID commission and told him point-blank... They were having a conversation about, in Los Angeles, about closing outdoor dining, and he said, "But there's been no transmission ever connected to outdoor dining." And the woman who wound up closing everything down said, "It's about the optics."

   2. MMMichael Malice19:04

      Well, it's also gui-

   3. JRJoe Rogan19:05

      But imagine, thousands of restaurants that are fucking barely hanging on after the pandemic-

   4. MMMichael Malice19:10

      And p-

   5. JRJoe Rogan19:10

      ... and then someone comes along and has the fucking balls or ovaries to say, "It's about the optics," and they're just gonna shut down-

   6. MMMichael Malice19:18

      What about the waitstaff, right-

   7. JRJoe Rogan19:20

      Yeah.

   8. MMMichael Malice19:20

      ... who are not making good... What about the busboys-

   9. JRJoe Rogan19:22

      Yeah.

   10. MMMichael Malice19:22

       ... and the illegal aliens working in the kitchen, who are-

   11. JRJoe Rogan19:23

       Everybody.

   12. MMMichael Malice19:24

       They're, there's no r- remorse or concern for their, uh, uh, thinking.

   13. JRJoe Rogan19:27

       The chefs-

   14. MMMichael Malice19:28

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan19:28

       ... who, like, p- put their heart and soul into creating this menu and the, the business owners that have financed this. And it's fucking crazy.

   16. MMMichael Malice19:35

       But what this has done is allowed, uh, educated urban people who live in a state of anxiety, neurosis, and fear to have an external reason for their state of mind. It's not that I'm messed up. It's not-

   17. JRJoe Rogan19:46

       Right.

   18. MMMichael Malice19:47

       ... that I'm a, a neurotic. It's that everyone is living under the gun, so it's appropriate that I'm living in this state.

   19. JRJoe Rogan19:53

       Right.

   20. MMMichael Malice19:53

       I don't have to look inward. I can look outward. Now COVID's obviously a very big deal. A lot of people have died. But it doesn't explain their extreme sense of terror. They're more scared of getting COVID than of having COVID-

   21. JRJoe Rogan20:06

       Yes.

   22. MMMichael Malice20:06

       ... because in their heads, if they get COVID, that means that they've done something wrong.

   23. JRJoe Rogan20:11

       Yeah, moral superiority.

   24. MMMichael Malice20:13

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan20:13

       (clears throat) Here's another meme that I love.

   26. MMMichael Malice20:15

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan20:16

       Hold on. I'll send you this one, Jamie. This one I, I gotta go into my meme folder.

   28. MMMichael Malice20:20

       Do you have a meme folder? (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan20:21

       Oh, yeah, I have a meme folder. Yeah, look.

   30. MMMichael Malice20:23

       (laughs)
7. 22:10 – 23:54

   Social media: accountability engine and chaos accelerator (Iraq War as contrast)

   1. MMMichael Malice22:10

      But this is, this is why I'm so excited about social media, because if it wasn't social media, you wouldn't be able to call these people on their crap and have... There was that f- footage in, um, was it Wisconsin or Minnesota, where the k- where the, the reporter had a mask and the cameraman didn't.

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:24

      Yeah.

   3. MMMichael Malice22:24

      And people just put up their cellphones-

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:26

      Exactly.

   5. MMMichael Malice22:26

      ... and they filmed it and put... And e- So it was up on Twitter before the footage was up on the news station.

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:30

      Do you think that anything would be... Do, don't you think it works both ways though, that it's also accelerating this sort of, this chaos too?

   7. MMMichael Malice22:40

      Oh, I love... Isn't it great?

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:41

      It's... Yeah. But it's also... I know you love that.

   9. MMMichael Malice22:43

      I do.

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:45

       (laughs)

   11. MMMichael Malice22:45

       Oh, I love it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan22:45

       I know you do. But don't you think that it's also, like, what, what would it be like if there was no s- social media in terms of the hyperbole, in terms of, like, the e- everything getting, uh, blown into this wild anxiety-ridden frenzy?

   13. MMMichael Malice23:00

       We-

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:00

       Don't you think that it ex- the social media also accelerates all of the anxiety?

   15. MMMichael Malice23:05

       I think it-

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:06

       I think it does both things.

   17. MMMichael Malice23:07

       ... I think it, it, it, it, it, it... I think it's bifurcating things. There's two populations, right?

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:11

       Hm.

   19. MMMichael Malice23:11

       There's the popu- And we know what it would look like without social media 'cause it was after, uh, it was the Iraq war, because there really wasn't social media to that extent in-

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:19

       Right.

   21. MMMichael Malice23:19

       ... 2001, 2002, and the drumbeat for war was incessant.

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:24

       Mm.

   23. MMMichael Malice23:24

       And if you were saying we shouldn't go into Iraq at the time, it was much harder to get a message out. Uh, Colin Powell, who, as you just said, passed away earlier today, just went on the floor of the UN and said, uh, s- "Not only does Saddam have weapons of mass destruction. He's about to launch them." There wasn't really this kind of way to show contempt, uh, and have a parody... Like, if you go on, uh, Facebook, if you go on Twitter, if you go on YouTube, a New York Times account and a random jerk's account look basically the same. So, they do have that e- even playing field.

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:52

       Yes.

   25. MMMichael Malice23:52

       You didn't have that before social media.

8. 23:54 – 37:36

   Corporate press credibility crisis: Pfizer promotion, ivermectin framing, and incentives

   1. JRJoe Rogan23:54

      Did you see that CNBC had a paid tweet by Pfizer?

   2. MMMichael Malice24:01

      I, I mean-

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:01

      A paid tweet to promote Pfizer and the vaccine.

   4. MMMichael Malice24:04

      But they're promoting Pfizer for free.

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:06

      Yeah, but, but a paid tweet.

   6. MMMichael Malice24:08

      Okay.

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:09

      But there's something about that.... where you have an organization that's responsible for the news-

   8. MMMichael Malice24:14

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:15

      ... and they tweet something, and then it says, "Tweet paid for by Pfizer."

   10. MMMichael Malice24:19

       Yeah, but Joe-

   11. JRJoe Rogan24:19

       But so transparent.

   12. MMMichael Malice24:21

       But that's good, because before, they would be in Pfizer's pocket and you wouldn't know about it 'cause you'd think they're being objective.

   13. JRJoe Rogan24:27

       Oh, no. I agree. It's good to see it, because it confirms your suspicions.

   14. MMMichael Malice24:31

       Oh, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan24:31

       But it's also crazy they're not even hi- here, I'll send it to you, Jake.

   16. MMMichael Malice24:34

       Well, here's another question. I'd like ask people on y- ask your Facebook friend, do you think the pharmaceutical companies have an incentive to force everyone to be their customer? And of course they do.

   17. JRJoe Rogan24:44

       Yeah, look at that. Paid post by Pfizer.

   18. MMMichael Malice24:46

       Wow.

   19. JRJoe Rogan24:47

       Messenger RNA, a groundbreaking technology, has immense portrayal behind fighting infectious disease. This is how it works. Paid post by Pfizer. Meanwhile, th- one of the gentlemen who created the, uh, mRNA vaccine says it should never be r- used in a, uh, in a pandemic.

   20. MMMichael Malice25:03

       Wow.

   21. JRJoe Rogan25:04

       Have you seen that?

   22. MMMichael Malice25:05

       I have not seen that.

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:05

       That guy talk about it? Yeah, he was interviewed by, um, Jimmy Dore.

   24. MMMichael Malice25:09

       Okay, who's great.

   25. JRJoe Rogan25:10

       And so a long- yeah, who's great. It's a long conversation where they, they discuss mass vaccinations during a pandemic. And this guy, I don't know if he's right or wrong. I'm not a scientist, but this guy is very, uh-

   26. MMMichael Malice25:22

       Just an equestrian?

   27. JRJoe Rogan25:24

       Yes.

   28. MMMichael Malice25:24

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan25:24

       I'm a horse. I'm basically a horse.

   30. MMMichael Malice25:26

       Centaur.
9. 37:36 – 46:24

   CNN, memes, and the Streisand effect: the Reddit user controversy

   1. MMMichael Malice37:36

      CNN threatened to sue someone for making a meme of Trump wrestling the CNN Logan, logo.

   2. JRJoe Rogan37:42

      Really?

   3. MMMichael Malice37:42

      So... Yes. You didn't know this?

   4. JRJoe Rogan37:45

      No.

   5. MMMichael Malice37:45

      They made a meme of a guy, Trump wrestling a, uh, they put CNN's logo, and they tried to find out who it is and they said, "We still reserve the right to sue you."

   6. JRJoe Rogan37:53

      Do not-

   7. MMMichael Malice37:53

      That's who's stopping people.

   8. JRJoe Rogan37:54

      Do not tell my legal team about this, 'cause they're ready to go.

   9. MMMichael Malice37:57

      Well, it's not like they listen to this show. (laughs) Do you, can you pull this up, Jamie?

   10. JRJoe Rogan38:00

       (laughs) Let me see this article.

   11. MMMichael Malice38:02

       CNN threatens lawsuit meme. This was a while ago.

   12. JRJoe Rogan38:05

       That's hilarious.

   13. MMMichael Malice38:05

       It's not hilari- I'm sorry, it's not hilarious at all.

   14. JRJoe Rogan38:07

       No. No.

   15. MMMichael Malice38:07

       When you're threatening, a, a giant corporation are threatening some kid in his mom's basement, in this case it's probably literally true, with a lawsuit for making a clearly humorous wrestling mean, meme. You are the evil corporations in every '80s dystopian sci-fi movie.

   16. JRJoe Rogan38:22

       Are we sure this isn't just some lawyer who works at CNN who oversteps his bounds?

   17. MMMichael Malice38:26

       Uh, you can find the exact quote.

   18. JRJoe Rogan38:28

       Let's... I would like to know what happened.

   19. MMMichael Malice38:28

       You could find the exact quote. I thought it was the PR person who said this.

   20. JRJoe Rogan38:31

       That... Well, that PR person is crazy.

   21. MMMichael Malice38:33

       They're not crazy. They're smart, 'cause they know they have the power and they're gonna use it.

   22. JRJoe Rogan38:36

       But they're crazy in that now we know about it because it became a national story.

   23. MMMichael Malice38:40

       Sure. Sure. The Streisand effect.

   24. JRJoe Rogan38:41

       And we're... And the wor- exactly.

   25. MMMichael Malice38:42

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan38:43

       The Streisand effect's beautiful. It really is. It's a beautiful thing. And it's the th- it's a thing about the internet. Like, the, the, if people don't know the Streisand effect, will you please explain how it happened with her house?

   27. MMMichael Malice38:53

       Sure. Barbara St-

   28. JRJoe Rogan38:53

       The story.

   29. MMMichael Malice38:53

       There was some picture of, uh, I, I don't remember exactly, of basically a bunch of houses on the beach.

   30. JRJoe Rogan38:57

       She has this massive house, I think, like, over l- on a bluff.
10. 46:24 – 1:16:57

    Sanjay Gupta fallout: ‘hostage video’ optics, natural immunity, and vaccine efficacy debates

    1. JRJoe Rogan46:24

       The Erin Burnett one is hilarious.

    2. MMMichael Malice46:25

       Oh, I haven't seen that one.

    3. JRJoe Rogan46:26

       Because, uh, I said to him, 'cause he said, "You should get a vaccine even though you've already had COVID." And I said, "Why would I do that?" I said, "You should get COVID." I go, "You'd have real protection."

    4. MMMichael Malice46:35

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan46:36

       And Erin Burnett apparently... I haven't seen that. Have you seen it? Go to, his appar- my wife said it is a comedy sketch.

    6. MMMichael Malice46:42

       Oh, okay.

    7. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       She goes, it's so hilarious. She goes, it's bad acting, like soap opera acting. She goes, like, "Do you think he really wanted you to get COVID?"

    8. MMMichael Malice46:49

       Oh, my God.

    9. JRJoe Rogan46:49

       Like, app- I haven't seen it, so we should watch it together in real time.

    10. MMMichael Malice46:53

        Yes, please. Please.

    11. JRJoe Rogan46:53

        But it's-

    12. MMMichael Malice46:54

        But that is worse than what they said with the C-... They're saying, if they're implying that you want him to get COVID, that's really bad.

    13. JRJoe Rogan46:59

        I do think he should get COVID.

    14. MMMichael Malice47:00

        No, but you don't want him to get COVID in the sense that you hope he, I hope he gets sick.

    15. JRJoe Rogan47:03

        No. I, I think it'd be good for his immune system.

    16. MMMichael Malice47:05

        You want him to... Right. But you want him to get COVID and get healthy, not get COVID and die.

    17. JRJoe Rogan47:09

        Exa- 100%.

    18. MMMichael Malice47:11

        You-

    19. JRJoe Rogan47:11

        I, I love that guy. I really do. I, I, I really love him. I think he's a really nice guy. I really do. I really, really do. I l- I'm, I'm a fan of Sanjay Gupta as a person. I have had, uh, m- many chances to talk to him. I'm gonna send you something else, Jamie, that's important.

    20. MMMichael Malice47:28

        Okay.

    21. JRJoe Rogan47:28

        Um, I like him. Like, uh, my, uh, my dealings with him, uh, whether it was on the show or off the show-

    22. MMMichael Malice47:34

        Oh, I can't wait.

    23. JRJoe Rogan47:35

        ... were nothing but flattery.

    24. MMMichael Malice47:35

        I can't wait. I can't wait.

    25. JRJoe Rogan47:36

        Let me hear this.

    26. NANarrator47:36

        Oh, hold on. Whoa.

    27. JRJoe Rogan47:38

        Yeah. (laughs)

    28. MMMichael Malice47:40

        Past.

    29. NANarrator47:43

        If you're, like, 21 years old-

    30. JRJoe Rogan47:44

        No, no, no. This is not-

Episode duration: 3:14:35