Joe Rogan Experience #1721 - Michael Malice

1. 0:00 – 1:51

   Cold open: ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ and how internet memes catch fire

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

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   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Michael Malice, has there ever been a person in history-

   4. MMMichael Malice0:15

      (laughs) Here we go.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      ... that has more support than this fellow, Brandon?

   6. MMMichael Malice0:18

      (laughs) Let's go, Brandon!

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      It seems like that is the most popular person I've ever come across. Everyone is in support of this Brandon fella.

   8. MMMichael Malice0:28

      There, there's this internet meme about, I think his name is Kyle, uh, who drinks Monster Red Bull and puts his fist through drywall. Is that the- is that Kyle- is that name Kyle? But Brandon, um-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:38

      I don't know about Kyle.

   10. MMMichael Malice0:39

       Kyle's- Kyle is a white kid who drinks a lot of Monster-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       (laughs)

   12. MMMichael Malice0:43

       ... and puts his fist through- through drywall.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       (laughs)

   14. MMMichael Malice0:46

       Uh, Brandon is, uh, everywhere.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Well, I don't know this Kyle fella though. Is this a f- a popular meme?

   16. MMMichael Malice0:51

       I thi-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Oh, here it is.

   18. MMMichael Malice0:52

       Yeah, there it is. Kyle, I was right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Okay, so Kyle just punches shit?

   20. MMMichael Malice0:55

       When he drinks a lot of Monster.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       It, uh, the- it's so crazy how, like, something will become popular. You know? Like that one guy, the- the large fella that's, uh, sitting on the edge of the bed with his giant cock hanging over the bed.

   22. MMMichael Malice1:09

       Yes, yes. That-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       That one picture of this fella and his big dick...

   24. MMMichael Malice1:13

       This is the most boomer conversation. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       (laughs)

   26. MMMichael Malice1:16

       You know how on the internet, Jamie, these pictures-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:19

       (laughs)

   28. MMMichael Malice1:19

       ... get names and the kids share them.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       How does-

   30. MMMichael Malice1:22

       And who- who- how do these pictures come from?
2. 1:51 – 3:50

   Memes as a new comedy language—and why institutions can’t handle them

   1. MMMichael Malice1:51

      I'm trying to think of what my favorite meme is. Uh, and there's one that's not a meme, it's just a funny picture, but what do I use all the time? Like, the one I use is, um, it's not a meme, it's a GIF, when f- like, people on Twitter ask me, like, a bunch of questions in a row in, like, one tweet. I just reply with The Riddler 'cause it's all these question marks.

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:08

      Oh.

   3. MMMichael Malice2:08

      But that's not that clever particularly. What is, like, some- what is the best meme? I'm blanking. I can't th- I- I can't think-

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:15

      There's a lot of good ones. There's a lot of good ones. There's so many good ones. I mean, it's just- the- the beauty of it is it's really a new form of comedy. You know? Like, internet meme comedy is a new form of comedy, and it's a brilliant form of comedy that some people are masters at. Really like a Dave Chappelle, like a- they're masters- like a comic is a master, they're masters at this weird new form that's only existed for, like, 15 years now.

   5. MMMichael Malice2:47

      And the greatest thing is that, uh, establishment figures don't know what to do with this.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:52

      Oh, this is one of my favorites. I'm gonna show you this new one.

   7. MMMichael Malice2:55

      Let me see.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:55

      Hold on. Jamie, I'm gonna send this to you. This is one of my new favorite memes because it's-

   9. MMMichael Malice3:01

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:02

       There's just so- there's so many of them, but this one is, like- this is my favorite of the time. This is ... Hold on. All right. I sent it to you, Jamie.

   11. MMMichael Malice3:13

       Let's see this.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:14

       This is my favorite-

   13. MMMichael Malice3:15

       Fun role.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:15

       ... of today, of this- this-

   15. MMMichael Malice3:17

       Oh, this is the one with the- with the drinking water? The engine coolant? Was that the one?

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:20

       No.

   17. MMMichael Malice3:20

       Okay.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:21

       No, no, no. That's a good one too, but that- I actually know the guy.

   19. MMMichael Malice3:23

       Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, this is a wi-

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:24

       This is my favorite.

   21. MMMichael Malice3:24

       I've- this has been around for a while. Oh, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:25

       Cover me harder, daddy. (laughs)

   23. MMMichael Malice3:27

       Yeah, yeah. But that's the NPC meme which I explained on this show-

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:31

       (laughs)

   25. MMMichael Malice3:31

       ... a few times ago when I was on.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:32

       That- this is an NPC as well?

   27. MMMichael Malice3:34

       Yeah. You- that's- they're- they're gray and they have that- that- that, uh-

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       Oh, that's what those- those things are. Okay.

   29. MMMichael Malice3:38

       Oh, yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:39

       That's right. You did explain that. NPCs, yeah.
3. 3:50 – 6:21

   Colin Powell, vaccination status, and the fight over pandemic narratives

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:50

      I saw someone today on Twitter that was ranting this, like, vitriolic, just nasty rant about unvaccinated people causing the death of Colin Powell.

   2. MMMichael Malice4:05

      So, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:07

      Well, here's the deal. The guy had blood cancer.

   4. MMMichael Malice4:11

      Oh, shit. I didn't- leukemia?

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:12

      Y- no. It's, uh, a different kind. I- an- what is it called?

   6. NANarrator4:17

      Mileom-a...

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:18

      Yeah. It's- it's a very severe form of blood cancer that d- severely impacts the immune system apparently, and might have even rendered his vaccination ineffective 'cause he was vaccinated. So-

   8. MMMichael Malice4:31

      He was double vaccinated, I believe. Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:33

      Yeah. Whatever that means, you know, fully vaccinated.

   10. MMMichael Malice4:36

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:36

       It's not even fully anymore. Do you know that at six months after the- the vaccine, some hospitals are not counting you as vaccinated six months after fully vaccinated? This comes from some woman that was working at a hospital that was talking about cases of vaccinated versus unvaccinated people that were admitted- admitted to the ICU, and she was saying the people that are in the hospital, they're- in her particular hospital, she was saying when someone's been vaccinated six months ago, they list them as unvaccinated.

   12. MMMichael Malice5:05

       Well, that's why they need those boosters in perpetuity, right? That's the-

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:07

       Yeah, but this is crazy. Like, th- they are fucking vaccinated and they're listing them in the hospital as unvaccinated and jacking up the unvaccinated numbers.

   14. MMMichael Malice5:16

       But I think it goes the other way that if it- if the efficacy is only six months, they're jacking up the numbers of people who are vaccinated to try to make it seem like only a tiny minority aren't when, oh, that 70% or whatever it is-

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:27

       Right.

   16. MMMichael Malice5:27

       ... some of them are no longer effectively vaccinated.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:29

       Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

   18. MMMichael Malice5:30

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:30

       Yeah. They're- they're making it seem like the people that are in the hospital are unvaccinated when they're actually vaccinated, but they've passed this arbitrary expiration date that this one hospital has put on it. But it's an-

   20. MMMichael Malice5:41

       Wait, is it arbitrary? I thought it has a- it- I thought it has, like, a half-life.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:45

       Well-... arbitrary in terms of the hospital making the designation, right? Me- making the distinction that this is an unvaccinated person. Like, there's nowhere else that makes that distinction. Like, the- the federal government, the- the airlines, like New York City when you go to restaurants, all these places that have vaccine mandates, the mandate in America... In Israel now, you're considered unvaccinated if you have two shots and you don't have three.

   22. MMMichael Malice6:09

       Okay.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:09

       They consider you unvaccinated. Like-

   24. MMMichael Malice6:11

       But Israel's rates are through the roof too.

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:12

       Through the roof.

   26. MMMichael Malice6:13

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:13

       But meanwhile, it's- it doesn't seem to be having an impact. The booster doesn't seem to be having an impact, except with Keith Olbermann. It seems to be making him fucking crazier.

4. 6:21 – 12:13

   Keith Olbermann vs. trolling: why silliness disarms rage

   1. MMMichael Malice6:21

      Did you see how I clowned him-

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:22

      Yes, I did.

   3. MMMichael Malice6:22

      ... so badly?

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:23

      It was beautiful.

   5. MMMichael Malice6:23

      It was so fun.

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:24

      It was beautiful.

   7. MMMichael Malice6:25

      It was so fun. But he-

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:26

      He doesn't know who he's fucking with.

   9. MMMichael Malice6:27

      (laughs) He-

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:28

       He doesn't know.

   11. MMMichael Malice6:28

       He knows now, motherfucker.

   12. JRJoe Rogan6:31

       (laughs)

   13. MMMichael Malice6:31

       This angry old lesbian-

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:33

       (laughs)

   15. MMMichael Malice6:33

       ... it's ... Here's the thing. If- if- if Jamie, if you go to my likes on my Twitter, you'll see this-

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:37

       What this means-

   17. MMMichael Malice6:37

       ... side by side.

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:37

       ... what you're saying is rude to angry old lesbians-

   19. MMMichael Malice6:39

       Okay, that's-

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:40

       ... 'cause there's a lot of angry old lesbians that are really cool.

   21. MMMichael Malice6:42

       Fine. Let's just say he's doing a very bad Bea Arthur impression.

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:44

       (laughs)

   23. MMMichael Malice6:44

       Here's the thing, the guy has a resume that can't be beat. Sportscaster-

   24. JRJoe Rogan6:48

       Yes.

   25. MMMichael Malice6:48

       ... political ... Uh, he's got this enormous career.

   26. JRJoe Rogan6:50

       I used to enjoy him.

   27. MMMichael Malice6:51

       And then you, single-handedly you and Alex, make him into an internet laughingstock, and he doesn't know what to do about it, and he starts yelling about rogan mutton heads-

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:01

       (laughs)

   29. MMMichael Malice7:01

       ... like an 80 ... "You rogan mutton head."

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:03

       But he called me Mr. Afraid.
5. 12:13 – 16:28

   Lex Fridman, Austin migration, and why big cities feel broken

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:13

      ... with a screen behind them. Like Lex, is a perfect example. Right?

   2. MMMichael Malice12:17

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:17

      (laughs)

   4. MMMichael Malice12:17

      I do.

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:19

      Why are you laughing?

   6. MMMichael Malice12:19

      Well, 'cause I- I-

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:20

      'Cause we were talking about him before.

   8. MMMichael Malice12:21

      But also 'cause Lex is-

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:22

      Yeah.

   10. MMMichael Malice12:22

       ... always makes me smile. He's such a sweet kid, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:24

       I love him to death.

   12. MMMichael Malice12:24

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:25

       But-

   14. MMMichael Malice12:25

       I'm just trying to imagine Lex as Keith Olbermann standing on the balcony, "You need to get vaccinated. Joe Rogan's a mountain head."

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:31

       He's the opposite.

   16. MMMichael Malice12:32

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:32

       Right? His v- his monologues are all about love and learning and growth-

   18. MMMichael Malice12:39

       And humility.

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:39

       ... and humility.

   20. MMMichael Malice12:40

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:41

       Yeah, yeah. And he's becoming huge because of it. Because of that, Lex Fridman is one of the most respected and interesting commentators on the internet. I mean, his- (clears throat) his internet, uh, d- discussions with people are fucking amazing. His- his David Fravor, the one with that, uh, that fighter pilot that encountered that strange craft-

   22. MMMichael Malice13:00

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan13:00

       ... off the coast of San Diego is one of the best interviews I've ever seen in my life. I mean, he's so good at communicating with people, again, with humility, but the way he discusses things, even when they're (clears throat) controversial, when, you know, he feels like something needs to be said, the way he says things is never like, "I am better than you." He's a fucking scientist from MIT.

   24. MMMichael Malice13:23

       He's also like-

   25. JRJoe Rogan13:24

       He's a brilliant guy.

   26. MMMichael Malice13:24

       ... a black belt martial artist-

   27. JRJoe Rogan13:25

       Yeah, black- black belt Brazilian jiu-jitsu.

   28. MMMichael Malice13:26

       ... and like a powerlifter.

   29. JRJoe Rogan13:27

       Yeah.

   30. MMMichael Malice13:27

       He's like an- He's the hardest working person I've ever met. He pushes himself so hard and it's- and he's- he- he- I don't- he's so driven but not in an ambitious way but kind of like seizing life by the balls kinda way.
6. 16:28 – 22:10

   Lockdowns, ‘optics,’ and the destruction of small businesses

   1. JRJoe Rogan16:28

      Well, the good thing is you could eat outside which is gonna be really fun in January (laughs)

   2. MMMichael Malice16:31

      Yeah. Yeah. But like all these great-

   3. JRJoe Rogan16:34

      (clears throat)

   4. MMMichael Malice16:34

      ... like if you walk around Park Slope which was the neighborhood next to mine, like stores there, family stores been there since the '70s, you know, for rent.

   5. JRJoe Rogan16:40

      Yeah.

   6. MMMichael Malice16:41

      Just store after store shut down.

   7. JRJoe Rogan16:42

      Yeah.

   8. MMMichael Malice16:43

      And they want us all to be part of these giant corporations and ha- do our shopping through Amazon or Target.

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:48

      Well if- even if they don't want that-

   10. MMMichael Malice16:50

       Right, so you-

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:50

       Even if that's not-

   12. MMMichael Malice16:51

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:51

       Yeah, that's just what's gonna happen because of these policies. If these policies really were put in play to b- give off the impression that they're protecting people, ultimately what they're doing is empowering places like Target and Walmart. And what they're doing is killing mom and pop shops-

   14. MMMichael Malice17:07

       Yes.

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:07

       ... and small businesses, yeah.

   16. MMMichael Malice17:08

       And- and- and with no remorse.

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:09

       Yeah, no remorse.

   18. MMMichael Malice17:10

       There- there's not like, "Okay, we-" this is the thing that's so sick about politics, uh, we bailed out the banks in 2008, but there's not really any talk about like these, uh, stores that were the staples of their neighborhood, that gave it character-

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:24

       Yeah.

   20. MMMichael Malice17:24

       ... that made it special. It's like, oh, too bad, you know? It- it's- it's- it's disgusting and dis- like, uh, Chalam Japan barely reopened, but my favorite place in New York, um, Zenkichi, which is basically, you go in, it's a secret door. Every- every seat's like a Japanese, uh, it's like a tr- uh, Oriental Express train car. You're- you're not allowed to have kids in there. They haven't reopened. Eisendieck, which is the best ice cream store in the world, they're done. So, just store after store. And if you were opening a restaurant or a boutique or a bookstore, why would you do it in New York now?

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:53

       Oh, for sure. Look, I have- I have friends who have restaurants in Los Angeles and they're talking to me about Austin. They're like-

   22. MMMichael Malice17:59

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:59

       ... "Listen, man. I gotta get out of here." Because they're scared that anything, like- like the flu rolls around. The flu rolls around, like we already have a precedent that's been set (clears throat) where-... when something that kills people, um, which most diseases kills a certain amount of people-

   24. MMMichael Malice18:14

       Of course.

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:14

       ... because some people are very, very vulnerable. And when something can kill people, now they already have a precedent set where the government can come in and dictate whether or not you can be open and whether or not your business can function. And, and make it so that people no longer have the choice as to whether or not they would like to just take a chance-

   26. MMMichael Malice18:33

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan18:33

       ... and go to a restaurant because the flu is around. Now you no longer have the chance because big daddy government is gonna look after you. And I have a friend whose brother works for the state, and he's a part of this whole COVID commission and told him point-blank... They were having a conversation about, in Los Angeles, about closing outdoor dining, and he said, "But there's been no transmission ever connected to outdoor dining." And the woman who wound up closing everything down said, "It's about the optics."

   28. MMMichael Malice19:04

       Well, it's also gui-

   29. JRJoe Rogan19:05

       But imagine, thousands of restaurants that are fucking barely hanging on after the pandemic-

   30. MMMichael Malice19:10

       And p-
7. 22:10 – 23:54

   Social media: accountability tool or anxiety accelerator?

   1. MMMichael Malice22:10

      But this is, this is why I'm so excited about social media, because if it wasn't social media, you wouldn't be able to call these people on their crap and have... There was that f- footage in, um, was it Wisconsin or Minnesota, where the k- where the, the reporter had a mask and the cameraman didn't.

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:24

      Yeah.

   3. MMMichael Malice22:24

      And people just put up their cellphones-

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:26

      Exactly.

   5. MMMichael Malice22:26

      ... and they filmed it and put... And e- So it was up on Twitter before the footage was up on the news station.

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:30

      Do you think that anything would be... Do, don't you think it works both ways though, that it's also accelerating this sort of, this chaos too?

   7. MMMichael Malice22:40

      Oh, I love... Isn't it great?

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:41

      It's... Yeah. But it's also... I know you love that.

   9. MMMichael Malice22:43

      I do.

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:45

       (laughs)

   11. MMMichael Malice22:45

       Oh, I love it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan22:45

       I know you do. But don't you think that it's also, like, what, what would it be like if there was no s- social media in terms of the hyperbole, in terms of, like, the e- everything getting, uh, blown into this wild anxiety-ridden frenzy?

   13. MMMichael Malice23:00

       We-

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:00

       Don't you think that it ex- the social media also accelerates all of the anxiety?

   15. MMMichael Malice23:05

       I think it-

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:06

       I think it does both things.

   17. MMMichael Malice23:07

       ... I think it, it, it, it, it, it... I think it's bifurcating things. There's two populations, right?

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:11

       Hm.

   19. MMMichael Malice23:11

       There's the popu- And we know what it would look like without social media 'cause it was after, uh, it was the Iraq war, because there really wasn't social media to that extent in-

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:19

       Right.

   21. MMMichael Malice23:19

       ... 2001, 2002, and the drumbeat for war was incessant.

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:24

       Mm.

   23. MMMichael Malice23:24

       And if you were saying we shouldn't go into Iraq at the time, it was much harder to get a message out. Uh, Colin Powell, who, as you just said, passed away earlier today, just went on the floor of the UN and said, uh, s- "Not only does Saddam have weapons of mass destruction. He's about to launch them." There wasn't really this kind of way to show contempt, uh, and have a parody... Like, if you go on, uh, Facebook, if you go on Twitter, if you go on YouTube, a New York Times account and a random jerk's account look basically the same. So, they do have that e- even playing field.

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:52

       Yes.

   25. MMMichael Malice23:52

       You didn't have that before social media.

8. 23:54 – 37:36

   Corporate media incentives: paid Pfizer posts, ‘horse dewormer’ framing, and authority collapse

   1. JRJoe Rogan23:54

      Did you see that CNBC had a paid tweet by Pfizer?

   2. MMMichael Malice24:01

      I, I mean-

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:01

      A paid tweet to promote Pfizer and the vaccine.

   4. MMMichael Malice24:04

      But they're promoting Pfizer for free.

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:06

      Yeah, but, but a paid tweet.

   6. MMMichael Malice24:08

      Okay.

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:09

      But there's something about that.... where you have an organization that's responsible for the news-

   8. MMMichael Malice24:14

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:15

      ... and they tweet something, and then it says, "Tweet paid for by Pfizer."

   10. MMMichael Malice24:19

       Yeah, but Joe-

   11. JRJoe Rogan24:19

       But so transparent.

   12. MMMichael Malice24:21

       But that's good, because before, they would be in Pfizer's pocket and you wouldn't know about it 'cause you'd think they're being objective.

   13. JRJoe Rogan24:27

       Oh, no. I agree. It's good to see it, because it confirms your suspicions.

   14. MMMichael Malice24:31

       Oh, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan24:31

       But it's also crazy they're not even hi- here, I'll send it to you, Jake.

   16. MMMichael Malice24:34

       Well, here's another question. I'd like ask people on y- ask your Facebook friend, do you think the pharmaceutical companies have an incentive to force everyone to be their customer? And of course they do.

   17. JRJoe Rogan24:44

       Yeah, look at that. Paid post by Pfizer.

   18. MMMichael Malice24:46

       Wow.

   19. JRJoe Rogan24:47

       Messenger RNA, a groundbreaking technology, has immense portrayal behind fighting infectious disease. This is how it works. Paid post by Pfizer. Meanwhile, th- one of the gentlemen who created the, uh, mRNA vaccine says it should never be r- used in a, uh, in a pandemic.

   20. MMMichael Malice25:03

       Wow.

   21. JRJoe Rogan25:04

       Have you seen that?

   22. MMMichael Malice25:05

       I have not seen that.

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:05

       That guy talk about it? Yeah, he was interviewed by, um, Jimmy Dore.

   24. MMMichael Malice25:09

       Okay, who's great.

   25. JRJoe Rogan25:10

       And so a long- yeah, who's great. It's a long conversation where they, they discuss mass vaccinations during a pandemic. And this guy, I don't know if he's right or wrong. I'm not a scientist, but this guy is very, uh-

   26. MMMichael Malice25:22

       Just an equestrian?

   27. JRJoe Rogan25:24

       Yes.

   28. MMMichael Malice25:24

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan25:24

       I'm a horse. I'm basically a horse.

   30. MMMichael Malice25:26

       Centaur.
9. 37:36 – 46:24

   CNN vs. a meme: doxxing threats, the Streisand effect, and legacy-media panic

   1. MMMichael Malice37:36

      CNN threatened to sue someone for making a meme of Trump wrestling the CNN Logan, logo.

   2. JRJoe Rogan37:42

      Really?

   3. MMMichael Malice37:42

      So... Yes. You didn't know this?

   4. JRJoe Rogan37:45

      No.

   5. MMMichael Malice37:45

      They made a meme of a guy, Trump wrestling a, uh, they put CNN's logo, and they tried to find out who it is and they said, "We still reserve the right to sue you."

   6. JRJoe Rogan37:53

      Do not-

   7. MMMichael Malice37:53

      That's who's stopping people.

   8. JRJoe Rogan37:54

      Do not tell my legal team about this, 'cause they're ready to go.

   9. MMMichael Malice37:57

      Well, it's not like they listen to this show. (laughs) Do you, can you pull this up, Jamie?

   10. JRJoe Rogan38:00

       (laughs) Let me see this article.

   11. MMMichael Malice38:02

       CNN threatens lawsuit meme. This was a while ago.

   12. JRJoe Rogan38:05

       That's hilarious.

   13. MMMichael Malice38:05

       It's not hilari- I'm sorry, it's not hilarious at all.

   14. JRJoe Rogan38:07

       No. No.

   15. MMMichael Malice38:07

       When you're threatening, a, a giant corporation are threatening some kid in his mom's basement, in this case it's probably literally true, with a lawsuit for making a clearly humorous wrestling mean, meme. You are the evil corporations in every '80s dystopian sci-fi movie.

   16. JRJoe Rogan38:22

       Are we sure this isn't just some lawyer who works at CNN who oversteps his bounds?

   17. MMMichael Malice38:26

       Uh, you can find the exact quote.

   18. JRJoe Rogan38:28

       Let's... I would like to know what happened.

   19. MMMichael Malice38:28

       You could find the exact quote. I thought it was the PR person who said this.

   20. JRJoe Rogan38:31

       That... Well, that PR person is crazy.

   21. MMMichael Malice38:33

       They're not crazy. They're smart, 'cause they know they have the power and they're gonna use it.

   22. JRJoe Rogan38:36

       But they're crazy in that now we know about it because it became a national story.

   23. MMMichael Malice38:40

       Sure. Sure. The Streisand effect.

   24. JRJoe Rogan38:41

       And we're... And the wor- exactly.

   25. MMMichael Malice38:42

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan38:43

       The Streisand effect's beautiful. It really is. It's a beautiful thing. And it's the th- it's a thing about the internet. Like, the, the, if people don't know the Streisand effect, will you please explain how it happened with her house?

   27. MMMichael Malice38:53

       Sure. Barbara St-

   28. JRJoe Rogan38:53

       The story.

   29. MMMichael Malice38:53

       There was some picture of, uh, I, I don't remember exactly, of basically a bunch of houses on the beach.

   30. JRJoe Rogan38:57

       She has this massive house, I think, like, over l- on a bluff.
10. 46:24 – 1:16:30

    Sanjay Gupta ‘hostage video’ media tour: clips, framing, and natural immunity debate

    1. JRJoe Rogan46:24

       The Erin Burnett one is hilarious.

    2. MMMichael Malice46:25

       Oh, I haven't seen that one.

    3. JRJoe Rogan46:26

       Because, uh, I said to him, 'cause he said, "You should get a vaccine even though you've already had COVID." And I said, "Why would I do that?" I said, "You should get COVID." I go, "You'd have real protection."

    4. MMMichael Malice46:35

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan46:36

       And Erin Burnett apparently... I haven't seen that. Have you seen it? Go to, his appar- my wife said it is a comedy sketch.

    6. MMMichael Malice46:42

       Oh, okay.

    7. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       She goes, it's so hilarious. She goes, it's bad acting, like soap opera acting. She goes, like, "Do you think he really wanted you to get COVID?"

    8. MMMichael Malice46:49

       Oh, my God.

    9. JRJoe Rogan46:49

       Like, app- I haven't seen it, so we should watch it together in real time.

    10. MMMichael Malice46:53

        Yes, please. Please.

    11. JRJoe Rogan46:53

        But it's-

    12. MMMichael Malice46:54

        But that is worse than what they said with the C-... They're saying, if they're implying that you want him to get COVID, that's really bad.

    13. JRJoe Rogan46:59

        I do think he should get COVID.

    14. MMMichael Malice47:00

        No, but you don't want him to get COVID in the sense that you hope he, I hope he gets sick.

    15. JRJoe Rogan47:03

        No. I, I think it'd be good for his immune system.

    16. MMMichael Malice47:05

        You want him to... Right. But you want him to get COVID and get healthy, not get COVID and die.

    17. JRJoe Rogan47:09

        Exa- 100%.

    18. MMMichael Malice47:11

        You-

    19. JRJoe Rogan47:11

        I, I love that guy. I really do. I, I, I really love him. I think he's a really nice guy. I really do. I really, really do. I l- I'm, I'm a fan of Sanjay Gupta as a person. I have had, uh, m- many chances to talk to him. I'm gonna send you something else, Jamie, that's important.

    20. MMMichael Malice47:28

        Okay.

    21. JRJoe Rogan47:28

        Um, I like him. Like, uh, my, uh, my dealings with him, uh, whether it was on the show or off the show-

    22. MMMichael Malice47:34

        Oh, I can't wait.

    23. JRJoe Rogan47:35

        ... were nothing but flattery.

    24. MMMichael Malice47:35

        I can't wait. I can't wait.

    25. JRJoe Rogan47:36

        Let me hear this.

    26. NANarrator47:36

        Oh, hold on. Whoa.

    27. JRJoe Rogan47:38

        Yeah. (laughs)

    28. MMMichael Malice47:40

        Past.

    29. NANarrator47:43

        If you're, like, 21 years old-

    30. JRJoe Rogan47:44

        No, no, no. This is not-

Episode duration: 3:14:35