Joe Rogan Experience #1844 - Tom Segura

Tom Segura is a stand-up comedian, author, and podcaster. He is the co-host of two podcasts, "Your Mom's House" with Christina Pazsitzky, and "2 Bears, 1 Cave" with Bert Kreischer," and host of his own Spanish language podcast, "Tom Segura en Español." His new book, "I'd Like to Play Alone, Please: Essays," is available now. www.tomsegura.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00 – 0:25
Tom Segura becomes a bestselling author (and the reality of writing a book)
1. NANarrator
  (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.
2. The Joe Rogan Experience.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music) Tom, you're a fucking author.
4. TSTom Segura
  I'm an author.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Not only are you an author, but you're a New York Times bestselling author.
6. TSTom Segura
  Pretty crazy, man. Pretty crazy.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  That's pretty crazy.
8. TSTom Segura
  Yeah. Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  That's pretty crazy.
10. TSTom Segura
  I know. I really didn't think that would happen, to be honest.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  It's wild.
12. TSTom Segura
  (laughs)
13. JRJoe Rogan
  You had a wild following though, pal.
0:25 – 3:20
Deadlines, editor bloodbath notes, and writing while injured
1. TSTom Segura
  I know. It's just, um... I remember there, you know... That's the whole thing. They... Once you s- once you have, like, everything in, they start talking about the sales, obviously. Like, first is the work of writing the book.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
3. TSTom Segura
  Which is its own thing, and everybody's like, "Don't do it." At least comics are. They're like, "Don't fucking do it." You know? 'Cause-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Everybody I know that's done it said exactly what you said, "It's a grind."
5. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, yeah. It is. It, it... What it is, too, is that for somebody that's out of school work for so long, it's the, it's the thing that feels like going back to school the most.
6. NANarrator
  Mm-hmm.
7. TSTom Segura
  'Cause you, you, you have deadlines. And we, we don't, we don't write dead- you don't have deadlines in standup, you know?
8. NANarrator
  Oof.
9. TSTom Segura
  It's like... And you send it and you get notes back, and they're like... There's blood all over the pages, right? Like, you got-
10. NANarrator
  (laughs)
11. TSTom Segura
  You're like... And they're like, "This doesn't even make... How do you connect these two?" And you're like, "I don't, I don't know." And they're like, "Well, that's what you have to do now. You're writing it." And you're like, "Fuck! Okay." So it's just, like, it feels like you're back to work, you know? You're back to doing work again.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  How's your typing?
13. TSTom Segura
  Um, it i- th- it was rough with the arm, with the hand, right?
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, that's right.
15. TSTom Segura
  So, I actually... I started writing this book... I, I got the deal for it in, at, when the pandemic was, like, just had t- when they, when it was clear everything was shut down. So everything started in March, and then it was like April, May. I feel like in that window is when I got the deal to do this, and I was like, "Yeah, I'm not gonna do any touring." Like, they were like... Remember? Touring is, like, done. So I'll write a book. I sent in, like... I don't know. I sent in 10,000 words, um, and then a little while later, I sent in 20,000 more, and I remember (laughs) that I, I gave it to the publisher, and she took her time with it. You know? Like, to do the, to do her notes. I mean, it's, it's, you know... I don't know how many pages that is, but it's like... Let's say it's like 100 pages or something, so it took a while. So I'm just, like, waiting to get notes back, and then when they come back, it's, like, right before I get injured. So I think I... I'm then in the hospital, and I have an arm that doesn't work for a while, and they go, "How's the, uh, how's the notes coming?" I'm like, "I'm not doing them. I, I can't write right now." (laughs) Like, 'cause I was-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
17. TSTom Segura
  ... up in... And when I finally did get to them, it took a while. Like, some, some chapters you get notes on, say things like, you know, "Just add something here and there," and, uh, "This, this works great." You know? "Make this more clear." And you're like, "Oh, that's not bad at all." And you flip the page, and the next thing is like, just, "We don't know what the fuck this story is about," and it's just, like, lines all over the place. "Lose this, add this, add humor, add..." And you're like, "Oh, my god."
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Add humor?
19. TSTom Segura
  Add humor, yeah.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
21. TSTom Segura
  That's definitely one, where they go, "This story is a good story, but it, you need to add humor to it." And you're like, "Er."
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Why do you have to add humor to a story?
23. TSTom Segura
  'Cause you're a comedian.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, but you're also a podcaster.
25. TSTom Segura
  Mm-hmm. Yeah.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Right?
27. TSTom Segura
  Mm-hmm.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Isn't that the best thing about podcasting?
29. TSTom Segura
  Mm-hmm.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause, like, you don't have to, like, hit a very specific note. You can kinda talk about anything. Serious, goofy. Sh-
3:20 – 5:31
Standup rhythm: pauses, crowd energy, and when to skip slow bits
1. TSTom Segura
  And y- you get comfortable. It's weird, because most comedians, you see it, are so uncomfortable with moments without laughter sometimes.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Marc Normand.
3. TSTom Segura
  And, and... Marc... Oh, really? Comedy.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5. TSTom Segura
  Uh...
6. JRJoe Rogan
  He's not uncomfortable. He's just-
7. TSTom Segura
  But it... No.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  He just can't help himself with the one-liners.
9. TSTom Segura
  Oh, yeah, yeah. He just zings. Uh-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  He, it's kinda like he- he's got, like, a file in his head that just comes flying out.
11. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, it does. It comes flying out.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
13. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, I just did his podcast with, uh, with Sam Morril. It's fun.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah?
15. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, very fun. Uh, We Might Be Drunk, it's a great podcast.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah?
17. TSTom Segura
  Um, but, you know, you, you see comics who also, on stage... I mean, obviously, you wanna get laughs on stage, but there's comics who can't even take a beat, a moment.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Right. They get scared, yeah.
19. TSTom Segura
  They get real scared. Like, "There's not laughter right now." And then you see people who really are super comfortable-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
21. TSTom Segura
  ... setting up those moments.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Gillis is great with that.
23. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  He's locked in.
25. TSTom Segura
  It's one of my favorite things to watch in standup, is I c- I really enjoy being taken on a ride.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
27. TSTom Segura
  You know? And that-
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
29. TSTom Segura
  And that, and a comic who's really masterful at pauses-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
5:31 – 11:21
Hecklers, theater crowds, and the “balcony pisser” incident
1. JRJoe Rogan
  There was a guy the other night at the Vulcan. Like, while I was on stage, everything's like, "Yeah, definitely."
2. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  "Oh, no way."
4. TSTom Segura
  That's the worst. That's one of the worst.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  "Don't do that." Like, oh, Jesus, bro. Shut... And everyone around him is like, "Shut the fuck up."
6. TSTom Segura
  Yeah. "You tell them, Joe."
7. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
8. TSTom Segura
  And you're like, "That's what I'm doing." Uh, do you know what I just had, had happen at the show that... I don't know. I mean, this is so crazy that this happened at a show. I'm in Baltimore and doing a great venue there, like, the Lyric. Um, and it's, it's probably 30 minutes into the show.... and somebody says something, you know, and it's a b- it's a theater. There's, I don't know, 2,500 or something people at the show, so... But somebody says something on the, on like a pause, right? So everybody hears it. Sometimes you, you navigate whether to deal with something or not in... The bigger the rooms get, you know, you ignore things. This person says it like, "Why is Bert fat?" Or something like that. Um, because he eats too much. I don't fucking know, right? But my response made other people go, "Oh, this is when we can..." Right?
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, no, I've had that happen. Yeah.
10. TSTom Segura
  Right. So they start going, they start saying other things like podcast jokes or, you know, "Bikes," and like s- shit from like other standup shows and I'm like, "Okay." And then at one point it ha- it happens, you know, like 10 people in a row. I go, "Do you guys... Do you wanna keep doing the show or do you want me to not do this?" And they're all like, "Yeah, do the show." And when I say that, another guy jumps in from the balcony with another comment, you know. Like, "Do you like Old Bay on your crab?" Or (laughs) you know, something like that. And I go, "I hope you die in a house fire." Or so- something like-
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
12. TSTom Segura
  ... aggressive and rude. And people laugh and I, you know, I just... And then I turn back and I do, I just continue with the show. But moments after that, you know when you can... You don't even hear something, you feel commotion.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14. TSTom Segura
  Where it's like an energy.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
16. TSTom Segura
  You're like... So I'm, I'm up there and I'm moving on and I'm like, "What is that?" But I, I don't say it, I just... 'Cause I just got through dealing with chaos. But I feel it and I look up there and I'm just like, "Whatever." And it, it kinda dies down after a moment and I just keep doing the show. So when I get off stage, I see, uh, Dave Okin, uh, who, who you met, uh, my tour manager who was at the, the party, and he's like, "You're not gonna believe what happened." I go, "Where?" He goes, "Up in the balcony." I go, "Oh, yeah. I, I, I sensed that something was going on there." He goes, "A guy pulled his dick out and started pissing on people in the audience." And I'm like-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
18. TSTom Segura
  ... "What?" (laughs) What? And he goes-
19. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
20. TSTom Segura
  He goes, "Yeah." But, you know, we... What we learn is that he was aiming for somebody, but sprayed-
21. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
22. TSTom Segura
  ... a bunch of other people. And... (laughs)
23. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
24. TSTom Segura
  And the reason we know this is that one of the people that got-
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Ugh.
26. TSTom Segura
  ... some collateral damage is a friend of another guy I work with on the tour, Kier. So he's like, "Yeah, my friend was sitting in that section," and he goes, "I see this guy pull his dick out," right? And what we learn is that... Remember the guy that said the thing and I'm like, "I hope you die in a house fire."
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
28. TSTom Segura
  The guy behind him was like, "You don't fuck with Tom's show." Pulled-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  So he's... (laughs)
30. TSTom Segura
  So he's, he's on my side.
11:21 – 13:52
Comedians behaving badly: peeing in bottles, nudity, and legendary “balls” lore
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Ari's done it in the studio 100 times.
2. TSTom Segura
  In the studio?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
4. TSTom Segura
  Oh.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  He pulls out his dick and sticks it in a kombucha bottle.
6. TSTom Segura
  He always likes pulling out his dick, though.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  He loves pulling out his dick. He did it the other day. We had a podcast and he, he went... He left to go pee-
8. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  ... but he didn't pee in a bathroom. He pissed in a whiskey bottle in the hallway and we got video footage of it 'cause we have cameras.
10. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  We have security cameras. He's like, "Why are you filming me?" I go, "No, no, we're filming everything 'cause you have security cameras. The real question is, why are you pissing in my hallway?"
12. TSTom Segura
  He didn't see that? Like...
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Look at him.
14. TSTom Segura
  Why couldn't he walk... The bathroom's 10 feet away.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  'Cause he's Ari. It's part of his fun. Part of his fun is he's just completely inappropriate.
16. TSTom Segura
  The pull your dick out move is usually for-... having a real nice-looking dick, a big one-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
18. TSTom Segura
  ... or comically, if you have a very small one. It's like a-
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
20. TSTom Segura
  ... fun move too.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Like a Bobby Lee move.
22. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, yeah.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  So, what has he got?
24. TSTom Segura
  I don't know. I mean, I don't remember the la- I haven't, I've seen it before but I don't really remember it. I've, I dare to say-
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm.
26. TSTom Segura
  ... it's not a memorable dick.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  It's a regular dick.
28. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  It's not a bad dick.
30. TSTom Segura
  No, it's not bad.
13:52 – 23:43
Bert Kreischer as ‘The Machine’: when your persona consumes you
1. TSTom Segura
  Him and, I feel like him and Bert probably have the most like, "I don't wanna know the results."
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
3. TSTom Segura
  Mentality (laughs) .
4. JRJoe Rogan
  For sure.
5. TSTom Segura
  You know? They're like, "Don't tell me."
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Bert got his blood work done. He's like, "Oh, thank God, my liver panel's good."
7. TSTom Segura
  Mm-hmm.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  I'm like, "How? How is it, how is it possible that it's good?"
9. TSTom Segura
  He got, he got a call, he said, from the cardiologist, and he was in a panic. And then she goes, "I don't know how you did it, but looks good. Go, go celebrate, like go have a good time." And he was like, "You just gave me orders to do that? Okay." And then he just-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
11. TSTom Segura
  I was like, "She doesn't really mean that. It just means congratulations."
12. JRJoe Rogan
  We were talking about it today, like he is becoming The Machine.
13. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  He's not Bert Kreischer anymore.
15. TSTom Segura
  No, no.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  He's now The Machine.
17. TSTom Segura
  He's morphed, yeah.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. It's like how Andrew Silverstein became Dice Clay.
19. TSTom Segura
  Yeah, yeah.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  For people that don't know, The Dice Man was part of Dice's act, um, part of Andrew's act. Andrew had an act where he does great impressions. Dice has-
21. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  ... fucking fantastic impressions. He used to do John Travolta and a bunch of other people.
23. TSTom Segura
  You can find them on YouTube. He-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
25. TSTom Segura
  He does really good impressions.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  And then he had this character that he created called The Dice Man, and he would put on the leather jacket and, "Oh," and then it became his whole act. It became him.
27. TSTom Segura
  Mm-hmm.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  S- uh, Sam Kinnison, same thing. He became The Beast, you know? Like he even talked about it, how it kinda like ruined his life. Hunter Thompson talked about that, that he-
29. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  ... he became Gonzo. He became this guy.
23:43 – 25:51
‘I’m Coming Everywhere’ tour: 198 shows, arenas, and why some cities rule
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Dude, you're going so hard.
2. TSTom Segura
  It is, it's wild.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't know anybody who, who's doing a tour like you.
4. TSTom Segura
  I don't, I-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  I've never, I've never done nathing- anything like that.
6. TSTom Segura
  No, I've never even honestly heard of it.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  (clears throat)
8. TSTom Segura
  Totally. Uh, I mean, people... We tour aggressively, but this is kind of other level.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  The name of it, though, is amazing.
10. TSTom Segura
  It's pretty great.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  I'm Coming Everywhere (laughs) .
12. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Is this what you're doing? (laughs)
14. TSTom Segura
  And we haven't even announced-
15. JRJoe Rogan
  (clears throat)
16. TSTom Segura
  ... the, uh, the final leg.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  That is so crazy you have more legs.
18. TSTom Segura
  Yeah. So we, we have everything remoun- announced through this year.... uh, domestically, so I do- I do so many ... This just-just ... So, the tour started in '21, right? And just in '22, this year I'll do 198 shows.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, my God.
20. TSTom Segura
  And I did, I think ... Because I started in August of '21. I think I did 70-something between August and December of last year.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  (sighs)
22. TSTom Segura
  And then I do Australia/New Zealand in January. And then I announce the final leg, which is more international shows.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Are you doing mostly theaters, mostly arenas? Are you doing, like, half and half?
24. TSTom Segura
  It's, uh, it's a lot of theaters, and then the arenas have started to increase, so I, you know, I started to do a couple. I have a few, uh, Canadian, uh, arenas, and then I'm doing ... Well, I'm doing ... I have a big ... I'm doing two ball arenas in Denver, July 23rd and 24th.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Nice.
26. TSTom Segura
  So that's- that's- that's big. I'm doing-
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Double, double arenas.
28. TSTom Segura
  Double arena.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Ooh.
30. TSTom Segura
  Mohegan Sun Arena, um, and we have a couple others on the- on the books.
25:51 – 30:50
Homelessness and city policy: Austin cleanup vs LA sprawl
1. JRJoe Rogan
  The homeless thing's out of control there, though.
2. TSTom Segura
  In Denver?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, they have a very liberal mayor, and they're- they're nuts.
4. TSTom Segura
  What did we do with them here?
5. JRJoe Rogan
  We killed them.
6. TSTom Segura
  When I got ... (laughs) Did we throw them in the- in the river?
7. JRJoe Rogan
  No, the river's not gonna get polluted by homeless people.
8. TSTom Segura
  Oh. I, uh, I remember when I got here, it was a library.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
10. TSTom Segura
  Like, on Cesar Chavez, was, um-
11. JRJoe Rogan
  (coughs) Totally taken over.
12. TSTom Segura
  Completely taken over.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
14. TSTom Segura
  And then just one day, you go- you drive by and you're like, "What happened here?"
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. They did a good job. They fixed it. They brought them into shelters. They brought- they- they bought hotels. They spent a lot of money, and they cleaned it up. And they cleaned it up substantially. Like, no other city that I've ever been a part of, and it was a- a- just a great relief that this city is doing the right thing.
16. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  The gate, they got them shelter. They took care of them.
18. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  You know? And they- they moved them out of the streets. You can't litter on the street.
20. TSTom Segura
  Right.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  You also can't camp there.
22. TSTom Segura
  Sure.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Both those things are true. And you-
24. TSTom Segura
  But you have to have a solution, right?
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
26. TSTom Segura
  You can't just be like, "Well, you can't do this, and we have nothing, no option for you."
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
28. TSTom Segura
  So ...
29. JRJoe Rogan
  No, they did a good job.
30. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
30:50 – 35:15
LA crime stories, Subway chaos, and ‘bread that isn’t bread’
1. TSTom Segura
  I just read about the guy that... He killed a Subway worker, you saw that? Over too much mayo.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yep.
3. TSTom Segura
  And he had just gotten out.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Shot her in front of her da- her daughter.
5. TSTom Segura
  (sighs) He's a career criminal too.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
7. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Too much mayo.
9. TSTom Segura
  I like mayo. That's why it-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  I love it too.
11. TSTom Segura
  ... really stuck with me, but-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  I like a juicy Subway sandwich.
13. TSTom Segura
  ... but that story really stuck with me.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Do you know the bread in Subway sandwich has so much sugar you can't legally call it bread?
15. TSTom Segura
  No. (laughs)
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
17. TSTom Segura
  Really?
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, it's like a pastry.
19. TSTom Segura
  (laughs)
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, pull that up.
21. TSTom Segura
  Eat fresh, man. (laughs) That's their fucking slogan.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Remember when Jared the pedophile was eating bread from Subway and claiming that that's how he-
23. TSTom Segura
  You remember that he was my buddy and that I have his phone number?
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, that's right.
25. TSTom Segura
  We shot commercials together.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
27. TSTom Segura
  (laughs)
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Jesus Christ, that's crazy.
29. TSTom Segura
  We split a pizza at the W Hotel in New York.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  That's crazy.
35:15 – 1:29:30
Tax loopholes, Forbes obsession, and Trump’s ‘John Barron’ tape
1. TSTom Segura
  ... there's the big tax loophole that exists in Ireland, right, which, uh, corporations funnel their money through them.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah?
3. TSTom Segura
  Uh-huh.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  What is that? What's the loophole?
5. TSTom Segura
  So I believe the loophole has to do with, you know, when... If you, if you route your money through certain, uh, countries and they're, they have laws that allow, they allow you to go, like, "Our money is actually deposited here." They collect a tax on it, but it's far less than what they would pay if they kept it, let's say, here.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
7. TSTom Segura
  So they end up... It's essentially housing that money there to pay less tax.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
9. TSTom Segura
  So it's, I, I believe it's the Irish... It's called, like, the Irish corporate tax loophole or something like that.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Just so many tax loopholes.
11. TSTom Segura
  It's loo- But it's a big one, and they, like, you know, there's, uh, American politicians who have, like, lobbied to try to get that done away with, like, uh, ban the ability to do that so that people would have to pay more taxes here. But so far...
12. JRJoe Rogan
  The problem with paying more taxes is they're just gonna find more ways to spend your money. I don't necessarily think it's gonna make anything better.... you know? I think the, the bureaucracy in this country is so clogged up and fucked up and ineffective. I just, I don't think they'd be better if they ... Like, if we all just gave 75% taxes-
13. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  ... they, they're not gonna fix the streets, they're not gonna cure the homeless problem, fix all the crime.
15. TSTom Segura
  Yeah. They would just figure out more ways to spend.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
17. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  They'll find new ways to tell you that the rich people are not paying their share, so you turn on them.
19. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  You ever see ... There's like a ... I love memes. I've been fucking meme happy lately.
21. TSTom Segura
  Yeah? (laughs)
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, yeah. They're so funny. It's like when things are gone, gone crazy-
23. TSTom Segura
  Mm-hmm.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  ... like, I love memes.
25. TSTom Segura
  Mm-hmm.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Because it just seems like those are the ... That's the shit that makes-
27. TSTom Segura
  They sometimes summarize things perfectly, right?
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
29. TSTom Segura
  Yeah.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  But, uh, someone just sent me one, um, about ... Here, let me find it for you. About people with pitchforks turning on the people with torches. Hold on a second. I'm fucking this up. It's not good? Bro, my vision is dog shit.