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Joe Rogan Experience #1877 - Jann Wenner

Jann S. Wenner is the founder, co-editor, and publisher of "Rolling Stone" magazine and author of several books. His most recent is "Like a Rolling Stone: A Memoir." https://www.littlebrown.com/titles/jann-wenner/like-a-rolling-stone/9780316415392/

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Jun 26, 20242h 51mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Rolling Stone’s Legacy: Counterculture, Gonzo Journalism, Politics, and Power

  1. Joe Rogan and Jann Wenner trace the rise of the baby boom generation, the 1960s counterculture, and how music, psychedelics, and political disillusionment led Wenner to create Rolling Stone in 1967.
  2. They explore Rolling Stone’s role as the primary voice of that new culture, especially through figures like Hunter S. Thompson and Annie Leibovitz, and how the magazine bridged rock music, politics, and serious investigative journalism.
  3. A large portion of the conversation centers on Hunter S. Thompson—his genius, excesses, fame, and decline—and how gonzo journalism reshaped political coverage and youth engagement.
  4. They also debate drugs, the war on drugs, economic inequality, climate change, the internet, and political corruption, contrasting idealistic goals with the structural limits of government and media today.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Cultural movements need their own media to survive and grow.

In 1967, mainstream outlets dismissed rock and youth politics; Rolling Stone stepped into that vacuum, becoming the ‘tribal telegraph’ that connected a scattered generation and legitimized its music, ideals, and anger.

Psychedelics profoundly shaped both personal outlooks and cultural change.

Wenner credits LSD with deepening his sense of interconnectedness, wonder, and commitment to rock music, arguing that psychedelics helped many young people rethink authority, war, and social norms.

Gonzo journalism can be “least factual, most accurate.”

Hunter S. Thompson freely blended fact and fiction (e.g., the Muskie ibogaine story) yet captured the emotional and political truth of campaigns and Watergate better than conventional reporting, helping young readers understand how politics actually felt.

Fame and drugs reinforce each other and can destroy talent.

From Hunter S. Thompson to Sam Kinison, John Belushi, and Michael Jackson, they describe how celebrity expectations plus stimulants like cocaine create a loop of ego, performance, and self-sabotage that often ends careers and lives.

The war on drugs was structurally racist and strategically dishonest.

They highlight harsher crack vs. powder cocaine sentencing, anti-marijuana propaganda like “This is your brain on drugs,” and policies that funneled money to defense contractors and private prisons while disproportionately jailing Black and poor communities.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Music was the only medium that young people could speak to each other and share values and ideas.

Jann Wenner

Hunter became just the DNA of Rolling Stone… his spirit, his thinking, his sense of adventure.

Jann Wenner

The problem with the Partnership for a Drug-Free America is you can’t tell the truth about pot. Until you can tell the truth, nobody’s going to trust you about anything else.

Jann Wenner

Fame is a drug. It’s also a drug that most people don’t understand; there’s not a roadmap of how to navigate this correctly.

Joe Rogan

Don’t let perfect be the enemy of the good.

Jann Wenner

The 1960s cultural revolution: baby boomers, Vietnam, civil rights, and psychedelicsFounding and evolution of Rolling Stone as a countercultural voiceHunter S. Thompson’s influence, gonzo journalism, and political coverageDrugs, addiction, the war on drugs, and honest retrospective on substance useEconomic inequality, billionaire wealth, taxation, and policy captureTrust, corruption, and limits of American politics and media (both legacy and online)Fame, celebrity psychology, and how it distorts artists, politicians, and public figures

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