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Joe Rogan Experience #1892 - Sober October 4 Recap

Ari Shaffir, Tom Segura, and Bert Kreischer are stand-up comics and podcast hosts. Ari is the host of "The Skeptic Tank" podcast. His new special, "Ari Shaffir: Jew," is available now on YouTube. Together, Tom and Bert are the co-hosts of the "2 Bears, 1 Cave" podcast. Tom also co-hosts a podcast with his wife and fellow comedian Christina Pazsitzky, "Your Mom's House," as well as his own Spanish language podcast: "Tom Segura en Español." His new book, "I'd Like to Play Alone, Please: Essays," is available now. Bert hosts his own podcast, "The Bertcast," and can be seen starring on TBS's "The Go-Big Show," and the YouTube cooking program "Somethings Burning." https://www.youtube.com/c/arishaffir www.tomsegura.com www.bertbertbert.com

Joe RoganhostBert KreischerguestTom SeguraguestAri ShaffirguestGuestguest
Jun 27, 20243h 14mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:49

    Sober October ends: first scotch toast and immediate relapse jokes

    The crew kicks off by celebrating 31 days of Sober October with a toast and a high-end 21-year Glenlivet. Bert’s giddy return to alcohol becomes the first running bit, as everyone riffs on how fast sobriety disappears.

    • Celebratory cheers after 31 days sober
    • 21-year Glenlivet scotch and cigar vibe
    • Bert immediately finishes his drink and wants more
    • Jokes about being alcoholics and ‘back to November’
    • Sets the loose, party-recap tone
  2. 0:49 – 2:43

    Ari Shaffir’s special release and the craft of polishing stand-up

    They pivot to Ari’s special releasing on YouTube and praise how disciplined the build was. The conversation turns into a mini-masterclass on timing, revision, and why waiting can improve a special.

    • Ari’s special drops on YouTube; congrats and praise
    • Discussion of waiting through shutdowns and revisiting material
    • ‘First draft is shit’ (Hemingway) as a writing mantra
    • Why distance helps shorten setups and sharpen jokes
    • Supportive peer feedback from Joe and Tom
  3. 2:43 – 5:07

    Bert’s love letter to drinking (and why sobriety felt good too)

    Bert delivers an over-the-top speech about the romance of drinking—sunrises, airports, brunch mimosas—while the others needle him about identity. Tom and Joe admit sobriety also felt great, creating a funny push-pull between health and indulgence.

    • Bert’s ‘I will never quit drinking’ proclamation
    • Alcohol as ritual: travel, sunsets, brunch, social cues
    • Tom notes drinking is central to Bert’s identity; group disputes it
    • Joe and Tom acknowledge sobriety’s benefits
    • Comedic escalation: locker-room speech energy
  4. 5:07 – 10:27

    Joe’s morning weed-and-writing routine and finding bits on stage

    Joe explains how marijuana fits his creative process and why morning writing works best for him. He describes a stream-of-consciousness ‘essay’ method to generate seeds, then pressure-tests them on stage until they evolve—or get cut.

    • Joe’s routine: morning spark-up and writing
    • Stream-of-consciousness essays vs. forced punchline structure
    • Extracting ‘seeds’ and letting them wobble on stage
    • Honesty as the filter; abandoning bits that won’t work
    • Carlin-style writing reference and iterative editing
  5. 10:27 – 13:54

    Kanye West: musical genius vs chaotic conversation, plus brand hypocrisy

    The group debates Kanye as a creative genius whose rapid-fire mind works in music but collides in interviews. They riff on cultural backlash, corporate hypocrisy (Adidas/Nazi origins), and how public accountability drives brand decisions.

    • Charitable framing of Kanye’s strengths and conversational pitfalls
    • Lex Fridman interview reactions and sympathy/critique
    • ‘Put it to a beat’ jokes and catalog praise
    • Epstein/bank hypocrisy riff and public pressure on companies
    • Adidas origins and the messiness of ethical consumerism
  6. 13:54 – 24:38

    Made-in-America debate: sneakers, supply chains, and LA sweatshops

    Joe digs into what ‘made in America’ really means, focusing on assembly vs full domestic sourcing. He recounts touring downtown LA garment factories during Fear Factor and connects it to labor violations, homelessness, and the reality behind branding.

    • New Balance ‘make or assemble’ nuance and outsourcing loopholes
    • Why truly domestic manufacturing is difficult and costly
    • Origen/Jocko example: transparency and one unavoidable imported part
    • Fear Factor-era visit to American Apparel-style factories in LA
    • Discussion of sweatshops, labor enforcement stats, and Skid Row’s growth
  7. 24:38 – 35:35

    Schools, ideology, and kids: pledges, racial exercises, and bullying

    They debate how far educators should go in exposing kids to sensitive topics, spurred by stories about extreme school exercises and ‘racism pledges.’ The conversation broadens into child aggression, bullying, and the unintended harm of performative lessons.

    • Arguments for/against educators teaching controversial ideas
    • Story: kids of color standing on chairs yelling at white kids (as claimed)
    • Kindergarten ‘anti-racism pledge’ anecdote and age appropriateness
    • Bullying scars and kids’ emotion regulation
    • Concern about propagandizing vs rational discussion and unity
  8. 35:35 – 39:17

    When tough guys pick the wrong fight: Leon Edwards and Bas Rutten stories

    The tone swings into fight stories where cocky people nearly get destroyed by elite fighters. Joe recounts stepping in during an incident involving Leon Edwards, then they tell a classic Bas Rutten almost-fight tale and break down why it would’ve been disastrous.

    • Joe warning a heckler: ‘You’re making a critical mistake’ (Leon Edwards)
    • Bas Rutten story: challenger invited outside and everyone panics
    • Bas Rutten résumé: Pancrase, striking, violence and aggression
    • Why size and athleticism don’t equal fighting ability
    • Bully dynamics and the desire to see ‘big guy energy’ checked
  9. 39:17 – 41:15

    Bathroom takedown video breakdown: jiu-jitsu changes the bully game

    They pull up and narrate a viral bathroom fight where a trained guy handles a larger football player. The play-by-play becomes a lesson on grappling leverage, composure, and why untrained aggression backfires.

    • Watching and narrating the bathroom fight clip
    • Takedown, control, choke sequence; ‘don’t start fights if you can’t fight’
    • Injury detail: bicep tear while lifting/slamming
    • Jiu-jitsu as the equalizer against ‘big guy’ intimidation
    • Comedic running commentary while analyzing technique
  10. 41:15 – 48:19

    Hard Rock hallway incident: Tate Fletcher omoplata-to-choke story

    Joe tells the infamous hotel hallway confrontation where Tate Fletcher neutralizes a huge drunk guy. The story turns technical as Joe explains the omoplata position and how Tate transitioned to a choke, ending the conflict without striking.

    • Mistaken-room confrontation escalates in a hotel hallway
    • Eddie Bravo prods the aggressor back into conflict
    • Tate pulls guard, locks an omoplata, then puts him to sleep
    • Joe explains mechanics: shoulder lock position and choke access
    • Aftermath: friends drag the guy away; apologies and de-escalation
  11. 48:19 – 55:14

    Old-school JRE memories: early chaos, Redban, and Ari’s salvia ‘six-month life’

    They reminisce about early podcast days—being too high, tiny setups, and realizing people were actually listening. Ari recounts a legendary salvia hit that felt like living months under the sea, sparking a brief tangent on consciousness and alternate lives.

    • Joe’s regret about missing Bourdain’s beer cue; ‘volcano’ days
    • Early JRE setup with Redban and realizing audience size
    • Viewing old 2009 clips and joking about being ‘barbecued’
    • Ari’s salvia story: months underwater, hard re-entry to reality
    • Speculation: psychedelics and ‘alternative lives’ concept
  12. 55:14 – 1:04:19

    Joey Diaz drug stories and friendship loyalty after the ‘molly incident’

    Bert gets emotional recounting how Ari dosing him with molly derailed Sober October—and how Joey Diaz showed up instantly to help. The group talks about loyalty, standing by friends during backlash, and the strange bonds formed in comedy life.

    • Bert’s molly story: panic, managing family, heading to the Comedy Store
    • Joey Diaz arrives fast and guides Bert through the high
    • Reflections on defending friends publicly and taking heat
    • Bert’s dad’s advice: respect for loyalty and standing by friends
    • Emotional reset as drinking resumes and the mood swings comedic again
  13. 1:04:19 – 1:13:21

    Leaking ‘The Machine’ teaser on-air: legal panic, then trailer reaction

    Bert tries to show a restricted teaser for his movie, triggering Joe’s paranoia about lawsuits and studio permissions. After a chaotic ‘call Egypt’ bit, they play the teaser and praise how it balances action with ridiculous comedy.

    • Argument over permissions, IP, and who’s liable (Jamie/Joe)
    • Bert’s improvised justification and calling producers overseas
    • Teaser plays; immediate laughter and approval from the room
    • Discussion of releasing during Ukraine/Russia tensions and audience reception
    • Bert’s pride in going ‘hard’ for real comedy in movies
  14. 1:13:21 – 1:41:50

    Why big comedies disappeared: studio fear, cancel culture, and being ‘dirty’

    They discuss how modern studios avoid risk and how online backlash shapes creative decisions. The conversation shifts to stand-up career advice: being true to your voice, the old push to be clean for TV, and managers/club owners who steer comics wrong.

    • Theater comedy experiences (Borat) and why group laughter matters
    • ‘Go hard’ ethos vs modern caution and social-media reprisal
    • Old industry model: Tonight Show/sitcom requires clean material
    • Joe’s early Boston/Long Island bar story that changed his manager’s mind
    • Managers and gatekeepers: some great, many clueless—success via authenticity
  15. 1:41:50 – 3:14:43

    Sober October recap begins—then devolves into push-up trash talk

    Joe steers the group back to the actual Sober October recap: why a shared challenge beats cutthroat competition for them. Almost immediately, the competitive itch returns via a spontaneous push-up debate that threatens to trigger Joe’s ‘winner’ brain.

    • Joe’s love of Sober October as a yearly ritual
    • Challenge-only format vs winners/losers; why it works better
    • Joe admits competition flips a switch and can get unhealthy
    • Push-up contest talk: counts, form standards, pacing rules
    • Ends with form critiques and escalating bravado

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