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Joe Rogan Experience #1892 - Sober October 4 Recap

Ari Shaffir, Tom Segura, and Bert Kreischer are stand-up comics and podcast hosts. Ari is the host of "The Skeptic Tank" podcast. His new special, "Ari Shaffir: Jew," is available now on YouTube. Together, Tom and Bert are the co-hosts of the "2 Bears, 1 Cave" podcast. Tom also co-hosts a podcast with his wife and fellow comedian Christina Pazsitzky, "Your Mom's House," as well as his own Spanish language podcast: "Tom Segura en Español." His new book, "I'd Like to Play Alone, Please: Essays," is available now. Bert hosts his own podcast, "The Bertcast," and can be seen starring on TBS's "The Go-Big Show," and the YouTube cooking program "Somethings Burning." https://www.youtube.com/c/arishaffir www.tomsegura.com www.bertbertbert.com

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Jun 27, 20243h 14mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:000:49

    Sober October ends: first scotch toast and immediate relapse jokes

    1. NA

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience. (metal music)

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (metal music)

    4. BK

      I'm really excited. I'm really excited about feeling alcohol.

    5. TS

      Nice.

    6. JR

      You haven't had any yet?

    7. BK

      I haven't had any.

    8. AS

      No. Really?

    9. JR

      We're up. All right, here it is. Cheers.

    10. BK

      I haven't had any.

    11. JR

      Cheers. No alcohol to now.

    12. AS

      God.

    13. BK

      31 days.

    14. JR

      Gentlemen, we fucking did it. (glasses clinking) .

    15. TS

      21 Year Old Glenlivet.

    16. JR

      Yes. To all y'all out there too who did it with us, salute.

    17. AS

      Cheers. Cheers.

    18. BK

      Oh, baby. Let's see what you're really like.

    19. JR

      Ooh, that's good scotch.

    20. BK

      Mm.

    21. JR

      That's 21 Year Old Glenlivet.

    22. TS

      Very nice.

    23. BK

      Damn.

    24. JR

      Very nice.

    25. AS

      Very, very nice.

    26. JR

      Like the gentleman over here with cigars.

    27. AS

      21 years.

    28. JR

      That old whiskey.

    29. TS

      We all got new shirts. It's a fucking great day.

    30. AS

      (laughs)

  2. 0:492:43

    Ari Shaffir’s special release and the craft of polishing stand-up

    1. AS

      This is... I mean, this, I just had these in my closet. Nothing to do-

    2. JR

      Great.

    3. AS

      ... with my special coming out today.

    4. TS

      Yeah, man.

    5. JR

      The special that comes out today.

    6. AS

      (laughs)

    7. BK

      It comes out today?

    8. AS

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      Today. It's on YouTube, which is the only place-

    10. BK

      Fuck yeah.

    11. JR

      ... to release the special these days. Unless you're getting-

    12. AS

      Feel degree, Noah.

    13. TS

      Congratulations.

    14. AS

      Thanks, buddy.

    15. TS

      Congratulations, Ari.

    16. AS

      Thanks. Thanks, guys. Thank you, for real.

    17. JR

      It was a good move. And it's great shit, man. It really is. Watching you work at it so, so fucking studiously and so disciplined, it was really cool to see. It really was.

    18. AS

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      And it's... I think it's your best work ever.

    20. TS

      I do, too. I really do.

    21. JR

      I really do.

    22. AS

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      It's rock solid, dude. It's so good. That set that I saw you do at the Creek and the Cave-

    24. AS

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      ... it's so well put together and it's, it's thematic, but it's not.

    26. AS

      It's just a club special.

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. AS

      Just a club stand up.

    29. JR

      It's fucking great, dude.

    30. AS

      Yeah.

  3. 2:435:07

    Bert’s love letter to drinking (and why sobriety felt good too)

    1. AS

      ... about you never quitting drinking, about how goddamn inspiring that is.

    2. BK

      Cheers.

    3. AS

      Cheers.

    4. JR

      To alcoholics.

    5. BK

      Jack Os- Jack Osbourne hit me up last night. Jack, I hope you're cool with this. And, uh, he was like, "I've been sober 19 years and I just watched this video. I've never wanted to drink more in my life." (laughs) And I'm... I should watch it right now to fire myself up for getting fucking wasted.

    6. JR

      It's legit.

    7. BK

      That shot got something in you.

    8. AS

      You're a Jack Osbourne now?

    9. BK

      (sighs) I will never quit drinking.

    10. AS

      Who is that guy? He's cool.

    11. BK

      I will never quit drinking. I will always make sure that I can keep my body healthy enough so that I can always drink.

    12. TS

      I think that's, like, so addicting.

    13. AS

      It's, it's a... It's a real sweet.

    14. TS

      What's that?

    15. BK

      I love seeing a sunrise with a cocktail-

    16. AS

      It's what?

    17. BK

      ... seeing a sunset with a cocktail-

    18. AS

      Oh.

    19. BK

      ... having friends walk into your house with a bottle of wine. Getting on a plane, "Can I get you something?" Double Jack on the rocks-

    20. AS

      Double Jack on the rocks.

    21. TS

      Lots of rocks.

    22. BK

      ... lots of rocks.

    23. AS

      (laughs)

    24. BK

      I love the moment someone says, "Hey, we should get a drink." And you, and you're not supposed to.

    25. AS

      (laughs)

    26. BK

      That feeling, it's like your first kiss.

    27. JR

      Driving? (laughs)

    28. BK

      You don't get that first kiss when... Kisses when you're married. You get to have those first drinks. At a brunch, someone goes, "Should we do mimosas?" And then the waiter goes, "Actually, we have bottomless mimosas." And you're like, "This is gonna be the best day ever."

    29. JR

      Dude, you just hyped me the fuck up.

    30. BK

      (laughs)

  4. 5:0710:27

    Joe’s morning weed-and-writing routine and finding bits on stage

    1. JR

      It's nice. It's nice to be away from it, but it's nice to be back at it. Um, the, the thing with marijuana with me is writing. I was telling you today, like, it was the first day I s- I did my, my routine, which is either in the morning I usually get up early, everybody goes to school, and I fucking spark up. I spark up and I write. And that's make it-

    2. TS

      Is that pretty routine for you?

    3. JR

      It has been. Uh, it was for a last few months before October.

    4. AS

      In the morning?

    5. JR

      Yeah, the morning-

    6. AS

      Like you're back.

    7. JR

      I used to do it late at night after shows, and I still do, but there's a thing where I'm tired.

    8. AS

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      Late at night after shows, like, I force myself to write, but I don't think it's as good.

    10. TS

      When you-

    11. JR

      I think in the morning I som- sometimes I have some of my best ideas.

    12. AS

      Morning you're so... Your brain's so rested sort of time.

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. TS

      No, no, it ju- when you do that... 'Cause I don't do that. When you do that and you start writing, is it...... I am wri- like, is your mindset in this "I'm, I'm writing material," like you're trying to write ma- or, or is it literally just, like, stream of consciousness, whatever comes out?

    15. JR

      It's stream of consciousness about subjects.

    16. TS

      Okay.

    17. JR

      Right? So you're bringing up a topic.

    18. TS

      So you bring up a few top- you're off topics?

    19. JR

      Yeah, like, today I did. Luckily I had an idea that I wanted to fuck with. And so then once I start writing, I'm not writing... 'Cause if I write within the confines that this has to be material-

    20. TS

      Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

    21. JR

      ... it, it would be too constrained. I'm like, "I gotta set up punchline, set up punchline."

    22. GU

      Right, 'cause then it feels like it has to go around stage and all that jazz.

    23. TS

      So it could literally be, be like something like a gun cont- like, people, something, a topic, and then-

    24. JR

      Yes. I just write, like, almost like an essay. Like, but I'll repeat myself over and over again in the essay, like, I'll start again. Like, I'll start with the subject this way and I'll go, "You know, one more time. I'll try it this way again."

    25. TS

      All right.

    26. JR

      And then I do it again, and I'm just trying to extract stuff.

    27. TS

      Yeah.

    28. GU

      'Cause ideally you want to get to every piece of it that you think about.

    29. JR

      Seeds.

    30. GU

      Like South Park where they'll cover all sides.

  5. 10:2713:54

    Kanye West: musical genius vs chaotic conversation, plus brand hypocrisy

    1. BK

      You should do, you should do a podcast with Kanye.

    2. GU

      I would love to.

    3. JR

      On CNN.

    4. GU

      I would love to.

    5. BK

      Yeah.

    6. GU

      I would tell him, like, "Dude, listen. I know you're up to something."

    7. BK

      (laughs)

    8. GU

      "So, like, I'm not gonna attack you, I'm not gonna claim you're crazy. What you got, bro? You're an artist. What are you talking about?"

    9. BK

      I'm not even following it that closely, so I know that he's saying, like, crazy stuff. I know... I listened to Lex Friedman and him.

    10. GU

      Uh-huh.

    11. BK

      And I get, I, it's not fascinating to me, so I just tap out pretty quick.

    12. TS

      Mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      Well, Kanye, this is what, the way I've described it. I'm gonna describe it in the, the most charitable way possible.

    14. BK

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      The same thing that makes him a great artist, he's like, boom, bam, boom.

    16. BK

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      It's like one thing to another and every rap flows with the fucking beat.

    18. BK

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      And it's, it's so catchy, it's so good. And he's in full control.

    20. BK

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      He's on the throttle, he's working the blinkers, he's got the brake, shifting gears.

    22. GU

      He's a musical genius. He's a musical genius.

    23. JR

      He's a genius.

    24. BK

      He's a, he's a, he's a genius. He's a genius.

    25. JR

      When you apply that same thing, when you apply that same thing to conversation-

    26. BK

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      ... you wanna dominate the conversation, you wanna say wha- and then enforce what you're saying and then, like, try to, uh, try to, you know, figure out a way to make what you're saying valid.

    28. BK

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      Even if it's not. You're, like, wrestling with the, your initial idea that you put out there.

    30. GU

      Just put it-

  6. 13:5424:38

    Made-in-America debate: sneakers, supply chains, and LA sweatshops

    1. JR

      Is there a single sneaker that you could buy that's fucking, uh, 100% made in America?

    2. BK

      Conflict free. No, not, not a made in America.

    3. JR

      Oh, what about New Balance?

    4. GU

      Tom, Toms of Maine?

    5. JR

      I think that is American made. I think New Balance might be. Is that real? Find out if that's true. Is everything s- like...

    6. GU

      My favorite, my favorite Ms. Pat joke was after Black Lives Matter and everybody's, like, yelling and screaming, she goes, "Calm down white people, ain't nobody trying to take your New Balance." (laughs)

    7. JR

      (laughs)

    8. BK

      (laughs) That was, that was where I saw David Lucas fuck around with an audience.

    9. JR

      Look at this, "We're proud to be the only major company to make or assemble more than four million pairs of athletic footwear per year in the USA."

    10. BK

      I saw that in flip-flops.

    11. GU

      Which represents a l- (laughs)

    12. JR

      But hold on, there's a, there's a word, there's a word.

    13. GU

      Represents a limited portion of our UFOs.

    14. JR

      But there's a, but there's a word in there that's a little bit of a problem-

    15. BK

      Oh, yeah.

    16. JR

      ... that's "assemble." The assemble parts are wh- uh, that's a little problem because that might mean they're getting parts from overseas and they're assembling in the United States.

    17. GU

      To make or assemble more than four...

    18. JR

      'Cause there's a lot of shit-

    19. BK

      They put, they put the laces in over here.

    20. JR

      ... it's hard to get in the United States, like, or- How about that second one? Which, what sneakers are made in the United States?

    21. BK

      Okay.

    22. GU

      Yeah, New Balance, Adidas-

    23. JR

      Oh, these are like a specific- Adidas best road running shoes- ... actual shoe. ... they're made in America. Oh. Right, but the thing is, like-

    24. BK

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      ... when they say, "Made in America," do they just mean assembled? Like-

    26. BK

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      ... where are the parts coming from? Right, right, right. Like, Origen is a company that I work with that makes American... It's Jocko's company. They make American-made jeans, American-made- Sure. ... jujitsu gis, American-made boots. But even the American-made boots, everything that you can get is American-made, except one thing you can't get that's from South America.

    28. GU

      What is that?

    29. JR

      It's like there's like a part of the sole-

    30. GU

      Like a leather thing.

  7. 24:3835:35

    Schools, ideology, and kids: pledges, racial exercises, and bullying

    1. BK

      It's, I was saying to Tom though today-

    2. GU

      That's so brave.

    3. JR

      That's so gross. That's so atrocious.

    4. BK

      I've never had an abortion.

    5. JR

      Imagine showing that to a kid and thinking that's the right way to handle it. Yeah. Like, before their parents get to talk to them about it. Like, you don't... Like, do they, do you have to sign a waiver?

    6. GU

      You just traumatized the shit out of them.

    7. BK

      No. No. Yeah, yeah, what the fuck?

    8. JR

      Sign a waiver.

    9. BK

      I gotta be honest with you, I, I mean, I, I, I could call someone and find out exactly. I wanna say it was ninth grade. And I wanna say they played it in English class. (laughs)

    10. GU

      Rough.

    11. BK

      Like, I don't even think it was religion, I think it was English.

    12. GU

      That was a, that was a hungover teacher who was like, "Uh, what am I allowed to put? I don't feel like it today."

    13. JR

      Yeah. (laughs)

    14. GU

      "What's on the list I'm allowed?"

    15. JR

      I want them to shut the fuck up. (laughs)

    16. BK

      My buddy, my buddy-

    17. JR

      But there's also teachers that feel like they have to explain things to kids, if the kids aren't learning from their parents.

    18. GU

      True.

    19. JR

      And there's a good argument on both sides of that, right?

    20. BK

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      There's a good argument like, "Hey, I don't want you teaching my kid something that I don't wanna teach him." And then the other, the other argument is, "You know what? Maybe it's the job of the educator to expose your kid to ideas that maybe you, they won't get at home."

    22. BK

      Yeah, I don't wanna teach them math so you do it.

    23. GU

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      But it's like, at what point in time does he cross that line?

    25. GU

      It's a valid discussion.

    26. JR

      The line is... Yeah, it's a valid discussion.

    27. BK

      Yeah.

    28. GU

      It came up recently a lot and it made me really think about it. When they're like, "I don't want my kids learning that." All that whatever stuff. And it was like, oh yeah, I guess you should have the right.

    29. JR

      You kinda should, but also, maybe not. You know, the, the problem is like, like, exposing people to only one narrow band of ideas, that doesn't seem fair to a kid either.

    30. BK

      Yeah.

  8. 35:3539:17

    When tough guys pick the wrong fight: Leon Edwards and Bas Rutten stories

    1. TS

      You have my favorite line about somebody almost getting punched, which is some- I won't give away who.

    2. JR

      Yeah, don't give that away.

    3. TS

      But that somebody was mouthy to somebody you were with who's a fighter.

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. TS

      And that, and like, uh, like, somebody's talking shit to, like, a UFC fighter that Joe's with. And then Joe's like, "Look, man. I know you've made a lot of mistakes in your life, but you're about to make a critical one."

    6. NA

      Uh-huh.

    7. TS

      "Because this fucking UFC..." I mean, if you talk shit to somebody like that, who gets upset?

    8. JR

      Let me just tell you what it is.

    9. TS

      That's your worst-

    10. JR

      It was Leon Edwards.

    11. NA

      Wow.

    12. TS

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      (laughs) Some guy was talking shit-

    14. NA

      Just talking shit.

    15. JR

      ... to Leon Edwards. And, um, I said, "You are making a critical mistake."

    16. TS

      (laughs)

    17. NA

      (laughs)

    18. TS

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. NA

      You don't have all the information.

    21. TS

      Yeah, yeah.

    22. JR

      And I go, "Let me just, let me just step in right here."

    23. TS

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      "First of all, you're out of line and you, you're being a shithead to him for no fucking reason. And you're picking the wrong-"

    25. TS

      The wrong guy, dude.

    26. JR

      "... dude." I'm like, "That is one of the best fighters on planet Earth, so shut-"

    27. NA

      You know the Bas Rutten story?

    28. JR

      The fuck...Yeah, that's-

    29. GU

      The Bas Rutten story with, from Miami Dolphin?

    30. JR

      No.

  9. 39:1741:15

    Bathroom takedown video breakdown: jiu-jitsu changes the bully game

    1. GU

      Well, like, a, a more amateur version of it was that thing caught on video where that football player, I think it was in Oklahoma somewhere, was in that bathroom.

    2. Oh, yeah.

    3. JR

      What?

    4. GU

      You know, and he, him, him and a guy who clearly you see the ears on this dude. And you're like, "This guy's ripped."

    5. Oh, that's a sign that they didn't know back then. They didn't look for it.

    6. Uh-uh.

    7. JR

      Oh, dude.

    8. GU

      What is it?

    9. Oh, you've seen it. You have to have seen it.

    10. You've seen it?

    11. Yeah.

    12. JR

      What is it?

    13. GU

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      What is it?

    15. GU

      Uh.

    16. JR

      It's a, it's a-

    17. GU

      Jamie's already cracked this one up.

    18. NA

      We played it.

    19. GU

      Yeah, you've played it. You have to have.

    20. JR

      Which one is it?

    21. GU

      I wanna see it so bad.

    22. It's in a bathroom.

    23. JR

      What happened?

    24. GU

      Uh, it's a OU football player and what happens is... Oh.

    25. NA

      No, it's there.

    26. GU

      Oh, it's there?

    27. NA

      Yeah.

    28. GU

      Was it really?

    29. You'll see it right here.

    30. And they're talking shit.

  10. 41:1548:19

    Hard Rock hallway incident: Tate Fletcher omoplata-to-choke story

    1. GU

      What about the hotel room? The hotel hallway?

    2. That's my favorite story ever.

    3. JR

      Oh, the Tate story?

    4. GU

      That's my favorite story ever.

    5. Yeah.

    6. JR

      That guy was such a fucking idiot.

    7. GU

      Don't worry, he's been practicing on the omoplatas. He's gonna do one and then choke him out.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. GU

      (laughs) What is it?

    10. JR

      So we're, we're at this, uh, Hard Rock Hotel, and, uh, it's Tate, me, and Eddie Bravo.

    11. GU

      Oh, boy.

    12. JR

      And there's this really big dude, and this really big dude is, uh, in the hallway. And he's like 6'6", big fucking athlete. You know, like, obviously everyone's scared of him.

    13. GU

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      And, you know, Tate's a big guy himself. Tate fo- fought on The Ultimate Fighter. Like, Tate's a legit Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt.

    15. GU

      Yeah.

    16. Mm-hmm.

    17. JR

      So Tate's trying to get into his room and his key's not working, like something's wrong. I forget what it was. No, Tate went inside. That's right. And then the guy-

    18. GU

      Your room, yep, your rooms are connecting.

    19. JR

      Our rooms are connected. So, so Tate goes to the room, and then the guy is trying to use his key on Tate's door. And he's saying, "You're in my fucking room." And Tate's like, "No, man, I'm pretty sure it's my room. Look, key works."

    20. GU

      Calm.

    21. Tate's sober at the time.

    22. JR

      And he's like... Yeah, Tate's totally sober.

    23. GU

      He's always sober.

    24. JR

      And the guy's like, "No, fuck you, man. You're in my room." Tate's like, "I don't know what to tell you, this is my room. See you, bye." And he shuts the door. And so our rooms are connected, we have the door open, and the- there, this guy's pounding on the door. And we're like, "Fuck." And so we, all three of us go out in the hallway with Tate. So it's me and Eddie Bravo and Tate, and this big fucking guy and his two dopey friends. And his two dopey friends don't know what to do, and this guy's gigantic.... and, uh, and he says something like, "I'll fuck you up." And this and that. I go, "Dude." I go, "You're making a fucking tremendous mistake here."

    25. GU

      (laughs)

    26. BK

      (laughs)

    27. JR

      And we, we just step back, and, and then he tries to get out of it. And then Eddie's like, "Man, you said, you said you were gonna do something. Fucking do something."

    28. GU

      (laughs) Joe Baker.

    29. JR

      Eddie literally-

    30. GU

      Good job, Eddie.

  11. 48:1955:14

    Old-school JRE memories: early chaos, Redban, and Ari’s salvia ‘six-month life’

    1. JR

      Can I tell you that, to this day, Anthony Bourdain asked for a beer once on the first show we did? And I didn't realize that that's what he was asking for, 'cause in the middle of talking to him, and I regret it.

    2. GU

      What do you mean?

    3. JR

      'Cause I re- I realized it later. It bothers me that much.

    4. GU

      Wait, what do you mean?

    5. BK

      He's sick and having a beer?

    6. JR

      It's like looking at this beer, this beer is empty.

    7. BK

      Oh, no.

    8. JR

      And I didn't get him another beer.

    9. GU

      Oh.

    10. BK

      Oh.

    11. GU

      Fuck.

    12. BK

      Oh.

    13. JR

      Oh. It still bothers me.

    14. GU

      Sorry, buddy.

    15. JR

      It still bothers me.

    16. GU

      We-

    17. JR

      Isn't that weird?

    18. GU

      Yeah, I know.

    19. JR

      How weird shit like that-

    20. BK

      Yeah, yeah. Sticks with you forever.

    21. JR

      Like, I should've got him a beer, but I was in the middle of talking.

    22. BK

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      And I was like, "Is that what he wants? Oh my, he did want a beer. Is it too late?"

    24. BK

      He's just like, yeah, yeah.

    25. JR

      "What do I do now?"

    26. BK

      What do I do now?

    27. JR

      I didn't ... I was too high. That was back in the day when we would do the, um, the volcano.... and, uh, I don't rec-

    28. GU

      Volcano days.

    29. JR

      I don't recommend that.

    30. GU

      Yeah.

  12. 55:141:04:19

    Joey Diaz drug stories and friendship loyalty after the ‘molly incident’

    1. BK

      Joey D, Joey Diaz would get... I remember we found out Dan Murr passed away on the podcast.

    2. GU

      Oh, no.

    3. That was-

    4. BK

      And Joey goes... Joey's eyes fuckin' goes- (laughs)

    5. NA

      You gotta, you gotta say who that is first.

    6. GU

      He o- he owned a comedy club. He was a crazy drug addict tyrant.

    7. But we just found out he died.

    8. BK

      Well, you said he was a tyrant because he didn't want you on stage that one time.

    9. NA

      It was me and you. It was me and you. It was you. (laughs)

    10. BK

      And he goes, he goes, uh, "Goddammit. Life's short. That guy was a piece of shit."

    11. NA

      (laughs)

    12. BK

      "God bless him. God bless him. God bless him."

    13. NA

      God bless him. (laughs)

    14. GU

      (laughs)

    15. NA

      "A real garbage motherfucker." (laughs)

    16. GU

      "God bless his soul."

    17. BK

      He goes like, he's like, "Uh-

    18. NA

      (gasps) (laughs)

    19. BK

      ... "Yeah, he's gone. He's gone." He goes, "You know, he was a real creepy guy."

    20. NA

      "He was a real creepy guy."

    21. BK

      "Rest in peace."

    22. NA

      "Rest in peace, Dan Murr." (laughs) "Wherever you are, I'm sure it's not a good place."

    23. BK

      Yeah. Yeah, this is it.

    24. NA

      Ah. (laughs)

    25. GU

      He wouldn't give you your check. He'd be like, "Where are you guys going out tonight?" "I'll give it to you there."

    26. NA

      "This, uh, he fucking did a lot of creepy things." (laughs) "Rest in peace." (laughs)

    27. BK

      (laughs)

    28. NA

      He slaps him.

    29. BK

      Cut the man's tongue.

    30. NA

      (laughs)

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