The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1922 - Sam & Colby
CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 1:07
Sam’s TikTok stunt: missing the beanbag and fracturing his back
The conversation kicks off with Sam recounting a pandemic-era TikTok challenge that went disastrously wrong: a second-story jump meant to land on a beanbag. Joe reacts to the injury footage and asks about recovery, setting a tone of risk-taking and consequences.
- 1:07 – 6:26
Do hauntings follow you? The curtain incident and skepticism about “mediums”
Joe pivots from the back injury to the idea that paranormal activity might attach to investigators and travel home with them. They discuss the odd timing of a curtain falling in the studio, and the broader problem of incentives and fakery in psychic/paranormal claims.
- 6:26 – 11:09
The Comedy Store’s haunted reputation: mob history, tunnels, and a stage encounter story
Joe explains why he believes The Comedy Store is haunted, citing its past as a mob nightclub and the lore around underground passageways. He shares a vivid story from comedian Carl LaBeau about being grabbed and pulled off the stage in the dark main room.
- 11:09 – 20:49
From Kansas band camp to confidence “boot camp” at the mall
Sam & Colby trace their friendship back to band camp and describe intense social anxiety in their teens. They deliberately trained confidence by challenging each other to embarrassing public tasks—essentially a year-long self-made social boot camp.
- 20:49 – 30:34
Vine era, mall ban, and moving to LA: grinding without a plan
They describe transitioning from pranks and challenges into early social media fame, starting with Vine. After getting banned from their mall “training ground,” they push toward LA, prove earnings to their parents, and live extremely frugally while building revenue streams.
- 30:34 – 37:30
Trespassing turns into felonies: Tampa arrest, jail, and a career inflection point
Their abandoned-exploration phase escalates when they’re arrested in Tampa for trespassing on a construction site treated as government property. Colby spends the night in jail due to multiple felonies (including old fake IDs), and the incident unexpectedly boosts their notoriety and forces a content pivot.
- 37:30 – 47:27
The Queen Mary B340: faucet, knocks, and a 35-minute yes/no ‘conversation’
They recount the pivotal paranormal origin story: investigating the Queen Mary’s once-closed B340 room. After hours of nothing, a faucet blasts on, and later they experience structured knocks answering questions—captured unintentionally via an audio recording in a friend’s pocket.
- 47:27 – 1:01:17
Belief after the first shock: demons, faith crisis, and why they kept going back
The Queen Mary experience becomes a psychological turning point—especially for Sam—reopening questions about faith, spirituality, and the possibility of something beyond death. They debate whether it was demonic or simply unexplained phenomena and discuss returning to the ship multiple times despite fear.
- 1:01:17 – 1:09:00
True-crime horror meets ‘energy’ theory: JonBenét and why places feel heavy
Joe and the guests explore the idea that traumatic events can leave a residue—whether as “energy,” memory in objects, or a psychological/placemaking effect. Joe shares a personal real-estate anecdote involving the JonBenét Ramsey house and discusses why stigma clings to certain locations.
- 1:09:00 – 1:21:26
Villisca Axe Murders: the most disturbing location and ‘Man from the Train’ theory
They dive into the Villisca Axe Murder House case—an unsolved massacre of a family and visiting children—and describe the oppressive feeling of being inside. The discussion expands into suspects and the ‘Man from the Train’ hypothesis connecting similar family slayings near rail junctions.
- 1:21:26 – 1:29:38
Conjuring House lore and the cost of extraordinary experiences (UFO parallels)
They discuss the Conjuring House’s reported phenomena, the Perron family, and the role of Ed and Lorraine Warren—plus the idea of a layered “demonic controller” behind hauntings. Joe then connects the social fallout of paranormal claims to UFO experiencers like Travis Walton, asking whether it’s worth being disbelieved.
- 1:29:38 – 1:45:41
Most intense moments and the tools: EMF, Rem-Pod, cat toys, and the Waverly setup
Colby describes a standout solo moment in Texas where a door slams on cue, provoking an emotional reaction. They then explain core ghost-hunting tools and experiments—especially EMF detectors and the Rem-Pod—using Waverly Hills footage and the infamous rolling ball setup as examples.
- 1:45:41 – 1:50:15
Are they ‘opening a doorway’? Access to locations, egregores, and manifestation debates
Joe questions whether repeated engagement makes paranormal experiences more likely—like building accessibility to something unseen. They discuss access barriers to famous sites, the “egregore” idea (belief manifesting reality), and broaden into manifestation, work ethic, and the creator economy’s psychological traps.
- 1:50:15 – 1:58:37
International danger stories: Romania’s Dracula history and Ukraine catacombs near-disaster
The conversation shifts from ghosts to real-world risk: traveling for investigations and exploration. They recount Romania’s Vlad the Impaler context and then a harrowing Odessa catacombs trip involving a shady guide, getting lost, and discovering a booby-trapped pipe bomb.
- 1:58:37 – 2:04:29
Held at gunpoint in Florida and defining ‘real danger’ vs haunted danger
They recount being mistaken for a threat near an elementary school while leaving an abandoned site, resulting in guns drawn and aggressive detainment. Joe then asks them to distinguish that kind of danger from the fear of haunted environments, teeing up their most unsettling haunted-object stories.
- 2:04:29 – 2:09:59
Zak Bagans museum deep dive: Dybbuk Box, Devil’s Rocking Chair, and the Estes Method
They review Joe’s recent visit to Zak Bagans’ museum and how staging can blur psychology and the paranormal. The discussion focuses on the Dybbuk Box lore and their intense experience with the Devil’s Rocking Chair—using the Estes Method (sensory deprivation + spirit box) to test for responsive communication.
- 2:09:59 – 2:42:57
Haunted dolls and ‘paranormal hangovers’: Robert the Doll, Annabelle, and the long tail
They describe visiting Robert the Doll in Key West and the widespread belief in its curse, including thousands of apology letters and celebrity anecdotes. Sam details an intense nausea/dry-heaving episode afterward—interpreted as possible “trauma echo” from a yellow-fever corridor—before they close by discussing longevity and future expansion beyond haunted content.
