Joe Rogan Experience #1922 - Sam & Colby

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) How'd you break your back?

   4. SGSam Golbach0:13

      So (laughs) we were just doing some stupid TikTok stuff during the pandemic, and we were all challenging each other to do, like, stupid stuff. And for some reason, I thought it was a great idea to try to jump off of a second story balcony onto a beanbag. But I missed-

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:27

      Whoa.

   6. SGSam Golbach0:27

      ... I missed the beanbag.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      Missed the beanbag completely.

   8. SGSam Golbach0:30

      (inhales) Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:30

      Oh, no.

   10. SGSam Golbach0:31

       Yeah. So-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       And you broke your back?

   12. SGSam Golbach0:33

       Yeah. Uh, I was, you know... I did it a couple times the previous week, and I was like, "Oh, I got this. This is gonna be fine." And then I missed the, the beanbag, and so, you know, I, I think I only fractured a couple bones there.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       (laughs) Only a couple.

   14. SGSam Golbach0:46

       But that, you definitely took me out for a while.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       That's a real problem though.

   16. SGSam Golbach0:49

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Is this your, your-

   18. Oh, jeez. That's definitely not it.

   19. SGSam Golbach0:51

       Oh, please God.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       We got it. Oh.

   21. SGSam Golbach0:53

       It's, it's, it's-

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       (laughs)

   23. SGSam Golbach0:53

       ... gruesome if you actually see it.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Oh, my God.

   25. So what did you, did you have to get-

   26. Oh.

   27. SGSam Golbach0:57

       Oh.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Jesus.

   29. All right, well-

   30. SGSam Golbach0:57

       God.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Right. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      can't let this guy think I can't do this," you know what I mean?

   2. Right.

   3. And vice versa. And so, yeah. Like, we were just looking up YouTube videos, like ... Honestly, like, as embarrassing as it sounds, like how to pick up girls, how to talk to people, like how to be more social and stuff like that. And then we'd take the things that we learned and then we'd go to the mall and throw ourselves in, like, the most uncomfortable situations, just to, like, get out of our comfort zone and, like, really take chances and, like, grow as people.

   4. That's actually very smart. It's a-

   5. SGSam Golbach15:25

      But-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:25

      That's the way to do it, because people are terrified of those interactions with people that make you uncomfortable. But if you just, like, seek them out over and over again, you eventually get comfortable being uncomfortable.

   7. Get used to it.

   8. SGSam Golbach15:37

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:37

      It's really smart.

   10. SGSam Golbach15:38

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       At 15, too.

   12. SGSam Golbach15:38

       Seeking failure and stuff like that. Like, if you are comfortable with failure, then you can do anything, 'cause then-

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       Yeah.

   14. SGSam Golbach15:44

       ... you just keep failing, keep failing, keep failing until one day you succeed.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       The problem with failure is a lot of times i- i- people let it define them. Like, they think of themselves as a failure because of not succeeding.

   16. SGSam Golbach15:57

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       Instead of thinking of yourself as a human being who's learning and growing, you think of yourself like, "Oh my God, I'm the guy who dropped the ball."

   18. Yeah.

   19. "I'm the guy who crashed the car. I'm the guy who did these things. I'm the ..." You know? You think of yourself as a failure. "I'm the guy who flunked out of school. I'm the guy who ... You know, the girl broke up with me." You, you start thinking of yourself as, like, a person who fails. You don't think of failure as, like ... Like, if you're playing a game and you're learning a game, what you're doing is you're trying to figure out how to be successful. But you're still you.

   20. SGSam Golbach16:30

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:30

       Right? You're still the same thing. But when you fail enough times, it stains your brain and hurts your feelings so much that you can self-define. And then you put parameters and boundaries up, and you, you define yourself-

   22. SGSam Golbach16:45

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:45

       ... as a failure. That's what's really dangerous for people.

   24. Yeah.

   25. That's why you gotta get back on the horse.

   26. SGSam Golbach16:50

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:50

       That's why people say, "You fall off the horse, get back on the horse." You got to ... Which is terrible advice, by the way.

   28. SGSam Golbach16:55

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:55

       You fall off a horse, you might fucking die falling off.

   30. SGSam Golbach16:57

       Yeah, or run away. (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   (laughs) …

   1. SGSam Golbach30:00

      lot, like (laughs) w-

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      (laughs)

   3. SGSam Golbach30:01

      ... and even in Kansas, like, when we first started, what we realized is, you know, being young-looking kids that are doing this and, like, we kind of got better and better at it, like, we figured out, okay, we can talk our way out of the cops, like, every once in a while. And that definitely happened. And I think at that point, we were just like, we find it so much more interesting to have that, like, sort of fear of we will get caught.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:22

      Yeah.

   5. SGSam Golbach30:22

      Uh, because no one else is doing that. Like, imagine seeing someone actually putting, you know-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:26

      Crimes.

   7. SGSam Golbach30:26

      ... crime on, on the li- online.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:28

      (laughs)

   9. SGSam Golbach30:28

      And like running-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       Minor crime.

   11. Minor.

   12. By bad people.

   13. SGSam Golbach30:31

       Trust, trust, trespassing, for sure.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:32

       A little bit of trespassing.

   15. SGSam Golbach30:33

       Exactly.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       But we got arrested eventually.

   17. Did you?

   18. So ... Yeah.

   19. SGSam Golbach30:36

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:36

       Where'd you guys get arrested?

   21. Tampa, Florida.

   22. SGSam Golbach30:39

       Oh, boy. Which is-

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       Yep. Yep.

   24. (laughs)

   25. SGSam Golbach30:40

       ... our first mistake, for sure.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       Did you get thrown into the hooch? Like, into the l- the lockdown with everybody?

   27. Um-

   28. SGSam Golbach30:46

       He did.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:46

       I did for 24 hours. Sam didn't because (laughs) this is so stupid.

   30. You, you got locked in for 24 hours?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah, old dark places…

   1. SGSam Golbach45:00

      and stuff.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      Yeah, old dark places make you freak out.

   3. SGSam Golbach45:03

      For sure, yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      Exactly. This is the first conversation, we should say, that we've had. So, up until that point, did you believe in ghosts before? And like, what is the, what is the feeling like when you have to sort of process the end of that day?

   5. SGSam Golbach45:16

      So that was a monumental change in not only, like, our career, but also, like, our, at least my, like, thought process in life. Because, yes, I had the idea that maybe something's else, something else is out there, like, I'd gr- grown up a Christian. Um, but at that time, we'd gone to so many scary places. We, we'd, you know, tackled a bunch of, like, life questions, philosophical questions, uh, throughout our time together, and we're like, "Okay." Like, after asking about it, like, for me, I was, like, losing, like, faith in something else. I was like, "Okay, maybe, maybe we're just the only things out here." And after that moment, I had, like, a full-on, like, breakdown the next day. Like, I, like, I was like, "Everything that I had thought was not real now becomes real." And I had, like, pretty much lost any, any sort of, like, faith at that point. But there is even a video of me online, like, sitting on my bedroom floor, like, crying to camera saying, like, "I truly didn't believe, and now this instance opens up this whole world. Like, maybe I don't immediately believe 100%, but the question of if there is something else out there is now back in my brain, and I want to chase that." And so, after the whole arrest and going to the haunted stuff, that was like... It wasn't necessarily we were like 1,000% believers the second we, like, had this experience, but it was so intriguing. Because it was one of those things that we couldn't explain. We told this story so many times, and the audio of this actually happening, the knocks, is online. So many people don't believe it because they weren't there, and w- we wouldn't believe it if we weren't there. And so we, we understand that people don't believe us when we talk about these things.

   6. JRJoe Rogan46:47

      Yeah.

   7. SGSam Golbach46:47

      How- however, just the idea that it could be real and the idea that it could happen again is what's so intriguing, and is why we got into it. And we're like, "Okay, if we can just keep doing this and keep getting more and more proof," like, that feeling of hope-

   8. JRJoe Rogan47:01

      Mm-hmm.

   9. SGSam Golbach47:01

      ... of like, "Okay, there is something else out there, and it is not just, okay, we're just gonna live and die here on the planet."

   10. JRJoe Rogan47:07

       Yeah.

   11. SGSam Golbach47:07

       It's so special.

   12. JRJoe Rogan47:07

       No matter what you believe in, no matter what religion you have, it's like, we realized that that experience for us, it taught us that there is something else. It's, it's more spiritual than anything. Um, and we wanted to spread that message as well to as many people as possible. Um, again, no matter what they believed in. But your roommates thought it was demonic.

   13. SGSam Golbach47:27

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan47:27

       They were... They took, like, the Christian route, and that's-

   15. SGSam Golbach47:29

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan47:29

       ... again, that's up to whoever is viewing this or experiencing it themselves. But yeah, they, they took it very religiously. What... How did you feel? Did you feel like it was a demon, or did you feel like it was a ghost or dead people? What'd you think it was?

   17. SGSam Golbach47:43

       I don't know. At the time, I definitely thought it was, like, a demon because these two guys are, like, yelling at me saying like-

   18. JRJoe Rogan47:47

       Freaking out?

   19. SGSam Golbach47:47

       ... "Dude, this is 100% without a shout of a doubt, like, a demon." And I'm like, "Well, I don't know exactly what I believe in." Like, "This is already, like, rattling my brain right now." Um, but it was scary.

   20. JRJoe Rogan47:58

       Mm-hmm.

   21. SGSam Golbach47:58

       And what was, what was scarier, um, is trying to go back into it and repeating the process, 'cause like, we didn't know what we were messing with. If it was a demon, like, hell. Maybe if it is all real, are we just screwing ourselves over by, like, going in all these places?

   22. JRJoe Rogan48:12

       Right, are you inviting that thing into your life? Right.

   23. SGSam Golbach48:15

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan48:15

       Did... How many times did you guys go to the Queen Mary? Three, four times?

   25. SGSam Golbach48:19

       Yeah, three or four times.

   26. JRJoe Rogan48:20

       So you went back after that? We did.

   27. SGSam Golbach48:22

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan48:22

       Did you leave the, uh, roommates home? (laughs)

   29. SGSam Golbach48:25

       At that point, yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan48:26

       We did, we did.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:03:47

   Right. (laughs) …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      skirts and sexy makeup. Like, what the fuck are you doing?

   2. Right. (laughs)

   3. And so it, it became this thing. So, we lived in Boulder for a while, and we were looking at real estate in Boulder, and there was this one house, like, "This is a pretty nice house. Like, why, you know, why is this house so cheap?" It was, it was weird. It's like, it seemed like it should have been-

   4. SGSam Golbach1:00:18

      Must be a deal.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      ... more expensive. And then I googled it.

   6. Uh-oh.

   7. And I found out that, oh, that's the house where JonBenét Ramsey had been killed.

   8. Oh, man.

   9. Yeah. I don't know if it ever sold. But, like, the, the entire time we were there, uh, it was for sale. It was for sale before then, for, for years. I, I think they might have even changed the name of the street-

   10. Hmm.

   11. ... to try to sell the house. Some weird shit like that.

   12. SGSam Golbach1:00:41

       I've definitely heard of that happening before. How they're like, "Oh, no one's sell, no one's buying this-"

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:45

       Yeah.

   14. SGSam Golbach1:00:45

       "... because of that."

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

       Well.

   16. SGSam Golbach1:00:47

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       It's a thing. Like, people, no one wants to buy a house for a little girl's murder.

   18. Oh, for sure.

   19. SGSam Golbach1:00:52

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

       And might have been murdered by her parents.

   21. SGSam Golbach1:00:54

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       Like...

   23. Like, that was the, the real-

   24. SGSam Golbach1:00:55

       Oh, really?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       ... the scary part about it, was that was the accusations, that the mother did it. They brought in these handwriting experts, and the handwriting experts compared the ransom note with the mother's handwriting, and they were trying to say that the mother wrote the ransom note. And like, who fucking knows?

   26. (laughs)

   27. But it's gross enough that no one wanted to have anything to do with that house.

   28. Right. Yeah. No, it makes sense.

   29. SGSam Golbach1:01:17

       There was this one time... Well, at one of the creepiest places we've ever been is kind of a story like that. Um, have you ever heard of the Villisca Ax Murders?

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       No. Never heard that.

Episode duration: 2:42:57