The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1924 - Andrew Santino
CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 1:04
Post-show hang & Hans Kim’s scooter vs. motorcycle fantasy
Joe and Andrew open by recapping the previous night’s show in Austin and riffing on Hans Kim’s full riding gear—only to reveal he’s on a scooter. The conversation turns into playful speculation about what kind of motorcycle would fit Hans, and why certain “style” choices look cool (or don’t).
- •Recap of the lineup and having fun in Austin
- •Hans Kim’s helmet/jacket/shoes ‘biker’ look
- •Scooter reveal and Hans’ practical mindset (“fuel efficient”)
- •Harley idea and joking about Hans handling a real bike
- 1:04 – 2:27
Handlebar design rant: style vs. steering control
Joe goes deep on why high ‘ape hanger’ handlebars are a bad idea, emphasizing leverage and steering control. Andrew counters with the idea that lankier riders can pull off the look, framing it as an aesthetic choice even if impractical.
- •Joe’s critique of high handlebars and reduced leverage
- •Efficiency of low handlebars (racing bikes) as a steering advantage
- •Style vs. function in motorcycle culture
- •Humor around body size and what looks ‘cool’
- 2:27 – 4:30
Why Joe never bought a motorcycle: crash stories & risk reality
The motorcycle talk turns serious as Joe explains how seeing coworkers and fighters get badly injured changed his mind about riding. Andrew shares similar fears—less about his own skill and more about unpredictable drivers and fatal incidents he’s seen through friends.
- •Fear Factor coworker crash and Frank Mir’s life-changing injury
- •A friend witnessing a rider get hit during Joe’s training period
- •Andrew’s friend couple quitting bikes after a death
- •Fast cars as ‘safer’ adrenaline compared to bikes
- 4:30 – 7:29
Car accidents, calm mindset, and Joe’s ‘apocalypse’ Land Cruiser build
They swap car accident stories—Joe’s yoga-era calm after being rear-ended, and Andrew’s time-slowing side-impact experience. Joe explains why he outfitted his Land Cruiser with lifts, steel bumpers, and rock sliders: part safety, part emergency-escape vehicle thinking.
- •Joe’s rear-end collision story and unexpected calm response
- •Andrew’s first ‘real’ accident and perceptual time dilation
- •Land Cruiser modifications: lift, steel bumpers, rock sliders
- •Wildfire/evacuation fears and ‘terrain access’ as preparedness
- 7:29 – 9:13
Jet packs, wing suits, and the perils of being an early adopter
A joke about upgrading to a jet pack becomes a discussion of real jet pack experiments, injuries, and limited flight time. They riff on the ‘jet pack guy’ with destroyed knees, then segue into modern wing-assisted systems and the insanity of flying near airports.
- •Joe refuses to be a jet-pack early adopter; doesn’t skydive
- •Story of an experimental jet-pack flyer with blown-out knees
- •Modern versions: longer flight time, wing-assisted systems
- •LAX ‘jet pack mystery’ and flying in restricted airspace
- 9:13 – 11:54
Flying cars, drone racing, and VR-first-person control
Jamie pulls up footage of a CES ‘air car’ and drone tech, prompting amazement at how fast and precise drone racing has become. They discuss FPV headsets, the skill curve, and how VR could make these experiences even more immersive.
- •CES ‘air car’ concept and skepticism about preorders
- •Drone racing obstacle courses and neon-lit tracks
- •FPV VR headset control and first-person piloting
- •Practice sims and cost/learning curve for competitive skill
- 11:54 – 13:22
Skill gaps in sports: golf, pool, and what ‘pro level’ really means
Golf practice leads into a broader conversation about elite performance and appreciating mastery. Joe compares the difference between casual competence and world-class ability using pool (Fedor Gost) and combat sports as parallels to golf pros.
- •Joe struggling with golf fundamentals vs. others’ technique
- •Watching pros live as ‘unreal’ compared to amateur skill
- •Pool example: Fedor Gost’s dominance and precision
- •UFC analogy: experts see details casual viewers miss
- 13:22 – 28:52
Pool obsession deep dive: breaking perfection, equipment, and Fargo ratings
Joe goes into extreme detail on the craft of pool—especially Shane Van Boening’s break and the repeatability of elite technique. They cover cue mechanics, slip strokes, the obsession-level practice required, and how Fargo scoring quantifies performance.
- •Shane Van Boening’s break making multiple balls (10-ball)
- •‘Slip stroke’ mechanics and why grip style matters
- •Mosconi Cup as a crowd-friendly pool event
- •Fargo scoring system and what top numbers look like
- 28:52 – 43:11
Pressure, coaching, and why repeatability beats ‘perfect form’
The conversation widens from pool to performance psychology: technique must hold under pressure, not just in practice. Joe and Andrew discuss coaching, how bad training habits are hard to undo, and why different ‘weird’ forms can work if repeatable.
- •Pre-shot routines and anxiety management under pressure
- •Value of coaching and correcting ingrained bad habits
- •No single ‘perfect’ stroke—variation exists across athletes
- •Examples: unconventional golfers/archers vs. consistent results
- 43:11 – 47:53
Cirque du Soleil awe, Beatles craftsmanship, and songwriting ‘magic’
Andrew describes a dangerous, precision-based Cirque show (Le Rêve), which leads into Joe’s love for the Beatles Cirque production. They discuss how greatness is built through intense repetition (Hamburg era) and the mysterious process of forming lyrics and melodies.
- •Le Rêve’s high-risk staging and tiny dive targets
- •Cirque ‘Love’ and rediscovering Beatles music in a new context
- •Malcolm Gladwell ‘Outliers’ Beatles-in-Hamburg practice story
- •Songwriting via humming/placeholder words (Rick Rubin examples)
- 47:53 – 54:20
Hip-hop favorites, sampling realities, and licensing pitfalls
Joe and Andrew celebrate classic hip-hop and unpack the art of sampling—along with the legal trouble it can cause years later. Andrew shares how he tried to license Pharoahe Monch’s ‘Simon Says’ for a special, only to learn a Godzilla sample was never cleared.
- •Nas, Wu-Tang, and ‘songs that instantly move you’
- •Andrew’s walkout music choice and crowd reaction on tour
- •DJ Premier explains the uncleared Godzilla sample issue
- •Digging crates: why sampling is both art and legal risk
- 54:20 – 1:01:48
Godzilla & King Kong: how ‘scary’ effects age and why practical feels real
They hunt down the Godzilla sample source and end up laughing at old monster-movie visuals and dubs. Joe contrasts early-era effects (including King Kong 1933) with modern CGI—arguing physical practical effects often feel more ‘real’ than digital spectacle.
- •Finding the Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992) soundtrack cue
- •Mocking old dubs and costume-era monster choreography
- •King Kong 1933: kids laughing at once-terrifying effects
- •CGI vs. practical effects and why tactile interaction sells reality
- 1:01:48 – 1:09:36
Demons, death as a ‘vessel,’ and Vatican darkness (scandals & mysteries)
A discussion of The Exorcist pivots into belief: Andrew says he believes in demons as external negative forces, and both describe the eerie feeling that a person is ‘gone’ when you see a body. From there, the Vatican’s power and scandals dominate—priest abuse, immunity-like protections, and the ‘Vatican Girl’ disappearance.
- •Belief in demons as entities fueled by negative energy
- •Seeing a loved one dead and sensing the ‘person’ has left
- •Pope Benedict controversies and church abuse cover-ups
- •Vatican City sovereignty, ‘Vatican Girl’ (Emanuela Orlandi) case
- 1:09:36 – 1:24:12
Religion loopholes, tax-exempt status, and cult dynamics (from Entheon to soaking)
They debate how easily ‘religion’ can be defined—especially when tax exemptions and power are involved. Joe brings up Alex Grey’s Entheon as a sincere example, then they pivot to cult documentaries and how authority tends to corrupt, ending with comedic detours into Mormon ‘soaking’ and ‘jump humping.’
- •Tax-free religion status and comparisons (Scientology, churches)
- •Alex Grey’s Entheon as an art-driven spiritual ‘church’
- •Cults sliding toward exploitation, sex, and control
- •Mormon ‘soaking’ and ‘jump humping’ as absurd moral loopholes
- 1:24:12 – 1:35:03
Artificial wombs, when souls ‘arrive,’ and UFO disclosure skepticism
Talk of fertility and modern science leads to artificial womb speculation and whether something essential (emotion, stress signals, ‘soul’) could be missing. They then switch to UFO claims: what the government has and hasn’t admitted, and the credibility (and look) of key figures tied to ‘off-world vehicles’ reports.
- •Artificial womb concept and concerns about bonding/emotional transfer
- •Ancient ‘ensoulment’ beliefs (Aristotle timelines)
- •What Pentagon/UFO statements actually claim vs. clickbait
- •Eric W. Davis ‘off-world vehicles’ quote and credibility jokes
- 1:35:03 – 1:43:03
Retirement-party communities, Austin’s comedy boom, and building new rooms
Andrew brings up ‘Some Kind of Heaven’ and The Villages—retirement life as a strange, party-fueled ecosystem—then they joke about creating a comedian retirement community. The conversation shifts back to Austin’s fast-growing comedy scene, Rogan’s club build, and why great rooms have an almost unexplainable ‘feel.’
- •The Villages/retirement culture: golf carts, partying, drugs
- •Idea of an ‘old comics’ community as a future plan
- •Austin comedy momentum and comics considering moving
- •Designing a ‘kill box’ room and the intangible vibe of great venues
- 1:43:03 – 3:20:26
NYC reset, helicopters & flight stories, air-show danger, and old-school weird contests
Andrew explains wanting a New York ‘shake-up’ and the East Coast gig convenience, sparking travel/traffic talk and Burr flying himself in a helicopter. They trade aviation stories—from Cessnas to Blue Angels G-force rides—then close on British ‘gurning’ competitions and the brutal history of jesters pushing their luck.
- •Andrew’s plan to base in NYC temporarily and why it helps creatively
- •Helicopters: Burr commuting to gigs; rich-people trolling by rotor wash
- •Joe’s Blue Angels ride and handling high G-forces
- •Gurning contests, jesters, and the risks of performing for power
