Joe Rogan Experience #1924 - Andrew Santino

1. 0:00 – 1:04

   Post-show hang & Hans Kim’s scooter vs. motorcycle fantasy

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Hello, Andrew Santino.

   4. ASAndrew Santino0:15

      Hello, Mr. Joseph Rogan. How are you, sir?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      I'm good, brother. What's crackalackin'?

   6. ASAndrew Santino0:18

      Nothing, man. Had so much fun last night. Thank you. (bell rings) Appreciate it.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Well-

   8. ASAndrew Santino0:22

      Had a fun show.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      Welcome to God's country.

   10. ASAndrew Santino0:24

       It was wonderful.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       (laughs)

   12. ASAndrew Santino0:25

       Me, you, Brian Simpson, Tony.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Fun times.

   14. ASAndrew Santino0:29

       So fun, dude. Cheers, brother.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Cheers, my friend.

   16. ASAndrew Santino0:30

       Cheers to you. (glasses clink)

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       Hans Kim.

   18. ASAndrew Santino0:32

       Yeah, Hans Kim. That was the first time I've seen him live.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       He's a funny motherfucker. (glasses clink)

   20. ASAndrew Santino0:36

       Dude, I thought when he walked in there-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Ooh, what is that?

   22. ASAndrew Santino0:39

       Little bit of Balcones, uh-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Ah. (slurps)

   24. ASAndrew Santino0:41

       ... uh, when he walked in the room, he took off his helmet, and he had a jacket on, and I was like, "This dude bought a bike, huh?" I was like, "What kind of bike do you have?" He's like, "It, it's a scooter." I was like, "Oh."

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       He goes-

   26. ASAndrew Santino0:51

       But he's-

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       ... "It's very fuel efficient."

   28. ASAndrew Santino0:53

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       That's how he thinks.

   30. ASAndrew Santino0:54

       Dude, he's got the getup though. He has the helmet, the jacket matched his shoes. I was like, "For sure-"
2. 1:04 – 2:27

   Handlebar design rant: style vs. steering control

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:04

      You know what he should have? A Harley.

   2. ASAndrew Santino1:05

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:06

      Hans should have a Harley. (laughs) Yeah, with those big handlebars? No. No, though, those are stupid. (laughs) Those, you can't steer. Why would you drive around on a bike that's, like, very important to get the fuck out of the way of stuff- Yeah. And your arms are up like this? Like, you, you don't, you do not have good leverage.

   4. ASAndrew Santino1:22

      Although if you're lanky, it looks cool. Like, lanky dudes, it's kinda like a vibe for them to... You know what I mean? It's like a style choice. It's, it's, it's-

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:28

      I have a real problem with those handlebars.

   6. ASAndrew Santino1:30

      Yeah, well, you're not the, you're not the tallest guy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:33

      I love those bikes.

   8. ASAndrew Santino1:33

      That's, you know, that's tough.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:34

      That's true, too.

   10. ASAndrew Santino1:35

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:35

       But even if I was, I mean, even if you made it to my body, like-

   12. ASAndrew Santino1:38

       Yeah, like here, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       ... yeah, it's still stupid.

   14. ASAndrew Santino1:40

       It still looks dumb. You know-

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:42

       I, like, this, this you could steer.

   16. ASAndrew Santino1:44

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:44

       Right there. Like, the racecar-

   18. ASAndrew Santino1:46

       This is fun.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:46

       ... the, the racing bike guys?

   20. ASAndrew Santino1:47

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:47

       Why do they have their handlebars down there? Why? Because that's the best way to steer.

   22. ASAndrew Santino1:50

       Yeah, it's efficient.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       Look at, that's-

   24. ASAndrew Santino1:52

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:52

       Come on, son. That's fucking preposterous.

   26. ASAndrew Santino1:56

       Yeah, but dude, that, the style is kind, like, there's something about it that makes me go-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:59

       Yeah.

   28. ASAndrew Santino1:59

       ... "That's fucking wild."

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:00

       Yeah. There's something about, well, that's not terrible.

   30. ASAndrew Santino2:02

       No.
3. 2:27 – 4:30

   Why Joe never bought a motorcycle: crash stories & risk reality

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:27

      You know, I went for a period of time where I took motorcycle classes, and I was ready to ride a bike, but then a dude that I worked with on Fear Factor crashed and fucked up his shoulder, and then Frank Mir, who worked for the UFC, he got hit by a car and broke his leg and it took him outta action for, like, he was really never the same again. He was, like, one of the best in the w- well, he's, he was one of the best in the world for a long time even after that, but that was, like, in the prime of his life.

   2. ASAndrew Santino2:52

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:52

      He got his femur shattered to the point where they, I mean, it was, when you get your femur shattered, it's touch and go whether or not you lose your leg.

   4. ASAndrew Santino2:59

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:59

      And he wasn't the same guy after that f- that, like, fighting. It took a long time before he really got his groove back.

   6. ASAndrew Santino3:05

      Did you have a bike? He, did you ever own a bike?

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:07

      No, no, so th- then that happened, and then a friend of mine saw somebody get hit on a bike all within, like, two weeks while I was taking classes, and I was like, "Fuck this." And the, a bunch of the guys that I worked with on Fear Factor, we all went to the classes together.

   8. ASAndrew Santino3:21

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:22

      And then, you know, a couple guys that worked in production and one of the guys that was a stunt guy, and we, we all were like, "Hey, let's get bikes." And then one of them kept it. One, one takes his fucking bike everywhere now, and I always envy him.

   10. ASAndrew Santino3:34

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:34

       Like, that rebel- (laughs) ... that wild motherfucker. He just rides his bike. He says it's the best. He goes, "I'm never in traffic." He goes, "I ride my bike everywhere." He's a single guy.

   12. ASAndrew Santino3:43

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:43

       He just gets around. (imitates motorcycle revving)

   14. ASAndrew Santino3:45

       I've thought about it, man, over the years, but I- I'm, I'm sketched out about other people. One of my closest childhood friends, him and his wife both rode professionally, like, he would do motocross and all that shit and trick shows internationally. That's where he met his wife overseas, and they both gave it up because she, I don't know if she was with them or saw it happen, one of her good friends die on a bike, and she was like, "That's it, never, never again." And both of them, and dude, he was, the, the whole time I knew this kid when we were teenagers, he was a fucking nutbag. I mean, he loved bikes, loved a- a- anything with two wheels that he could fly, he loved it. And then as soon as that happened, it was like never again. Ever.

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:24

       (sighs)

   16. ASAndrew Santino4:24

       Fast cars, though. That's it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:25

       Fast cars you have a l- little more protection.

   18. ASAndrew Santino4:27

       Oh, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:27

       Well, a lot, a lot more protection.

   20. ASAndrew Santino4:29

       Yeah, a lot.

4. 4:30 – 7:29

   Car accidents, calm mindset, and Joe’s ‘apocalypse’ Land Cruiser build

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:30

      Yeah, you can get in an accident and not get hurt at all. I was telling you, somebody rear-ended my Porsche-

   2. ASAndrew Santino4:33

      Hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:34

      ... in, back in LA-

   4. ASAndrew Santino4:35

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:35

      ... and it didn't get hurt. That was, like, fascinating time, because I was doing a lot of yoga. I was doing yoga, like, three times a week, and, uh, I did it that day. And when the guy hit my car, I was like, "Well, what are you gonna do?" Like-

   6. ASAndrew Santino4:47

      Calm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:47

      ... literally didn't, it didn't aff- it's, it was wild. I was like, "This is fascinating." I'm not mad at this dude. The guy didn't have a license.

   8. ASAndrew Santino4:54

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:54

      He was illegal. And I go, "What are you doing, man?" And he goes, "I work." I'm like, "That's a good answer." (laughs)

   10. ASAndrew Santino5:00

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:00

       (laughs) Fucking solid answer. The guy has to work, and I'm putting myself in his shoes.

   12. ASAndrew Santino5:04

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:04

       I'm like, "The fuck would I do if I snuck over here?"

   14. ASAndrew Santino5:07

       Yeah, fuck it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:07

       I'd, I'd fucking drive, too, man.

   16. ASAndrew Santino5:09

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:09

       He just, unfortunately he was on his phone, and there was a, they had stopped the lanes to move everybody into one lane, and he didn't see it in time, and he slammed on his brakes-

   18. ASAndrew Santino5:18

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:18

       ... and just fucking plowed into me.

   20. ASAndrew Santino5:20

       I got hit, uh, I got hit in my neighborhood. The woman, it was a (clears throat) this was my first, like, car accident. I'd been in, like, fender bender stuff. You know what I mean? But this was like, actually we got hit s- on our side, and I, time slowed down a little bit. Like, it was creepy as shit because I hit the brakes. I had enough time-

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:40

       Oh my God.

   22. ASAndrew Santino5:40

       ... to brake, horn, turn. I did it at, almost like simultaneously. Like (imitates horn) , and I started to slide away from her 'cause I could see she wasn't looking. She came flying out of her driveway. Her head was the other way.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:49

       Oh.

   24. ASAndrew Santino5:49

       And as soon as she turned, I swear to God, like out of a fucking m- movie, like our e- I zoomed in on her eyes. Like, I saw her fucking eyes-

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:57

       Oh my God.

   26. ASAndrew Santino5:57

       ... and then smoked us right in the side.

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:59

       (sighs)

   28. ASAndrew Santino5:59

       Everybody was fine, but that was, like, the first time I got into, like, a real car accident.... legitimate. 'Cause I've been, you know, nicked, bumped, whatever, but nothing like that. That was-

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:09

       I had my Land Cruiser built with rock sliders-

   30. ASAndrew Santino6:13

       (laughs)
5. 7:29 – 9:13

   Jet packs, wing suits, and the perils of being an early adopter

   1. ASAndrew Santino7:29

      How much longer until you get a, a jet pack?

   2. JRJoe Rogan7:32

      (inhales) I'm not getting a jet pack.

   3. ASAndrew Santino7:33

      Come on, dude.

   4. JRJoe Rogan7:34

      No. I will, I will not be an early adopter of jet packs.

   5. ASAndrew Santino7:36

      Oh, I'd do it.

   6. JRJoe Rogan7:37

      I don't skydive.

   7. ASAndrew Santino7:37

      If I had the money, I would jet pack the fuck a- everywhere.

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:40

      They only go for... I, I knew this dude back when I used to do the radio in, uh, Denver. And, um, they had this, uh, this fucking guy who was a jet pack guy. And this guy had been doi- using these experimental jet packs, and he had no knees. His knees were destroyed.

   9. ASAndrew Santino7:57

      'Cause you have to land with them.

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:58

       'Cause he had fucking blown his knees out.

   11. ASAndrew Santino7:59

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan8:00

       But this guy kept doing it. So, like-

   13. ASAndrew Santino8:01

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan8:01

       ... before the launch, this guy has to strap his knees in. So he has, like, these crazy braces and strapping his knees down and Velcro in this. I go, "What are you doing?" And he goes, "Dude, I've blown both my knees out, they're both useless." But he's still flying around in this fucking jet pack.

   15. ASAndrew Santino8:17

       I would do it. Fuck yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan8:17

       And it could only... Back then, it could only go up in the air for 30 seconds.

   17. ASAndrew Santino8:21

       Yeah, but now they, now they last a long time.

   18. JRJoe Rogan8:24

       How long do they last?

   19. ASAndrew Santino8:24

       I saw the dude doing it over the... You have to look it up how long it... I saw a guy doing it, like, over a body of water. Legitimately, it looked like two minutes. He was just chilling above the water.

   20. JRJoe Rogan8:31

       They have some with wings now. Have you seen the ones with wings?

   21. ASAndrew Santino8:34

       No.

   22. JRJoe Rogan8:34

       Yeah.

   23. ASAndrew Santino8:35

       See, dude, that, this is what I want.

   24. JRJoe Rogan8:36

       They caught some dude flying around near the airport with it. There was, like, reports of him.

   25. ASAndrew Santino8:40

       (laughs) In restricted airspace?

   26. JRJoe Rogan8:42

       Yeah.

   27. ASAndrew Santino8:42

       The one place you can't go?

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:44

       He was flying n- near where jets go.

   29. ASAndrew Santino8:45

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan8:45

       This fucking crazy asshole.
6. 9:13 – 11:54

   Flying cars, drone racing, and VR-first-person control

   1. GUGuest9:13

      This car.

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:14

      What?

   3. GUGuest9:14

      Air car.

   4. JRJoe Rogan9:15

      What is this?

   5. GUGuest9:15

      They showed this at CES.

   6. JRJoe Rogan9:16

      Oh, my god.

   7. GUGuest9:17

      It says it's real, it works, and, uh, I don't know w- how we're gonna use it, but it's a four-seater air car. It's like a drone, but-

   8. ASAndrew Santino9:24

      Wait, does it not have a video of it-

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:26

      Wow.

   10. ASAndrew Santino9:26

       ... of the, of a te- of, like, a test run or some shit?

   11. GUGuest9:29

       I believe it does, yeah, yeah.

   12. ASAndrew Santino9:29

       Fuck yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:29

       It says preorder. I ain't preordering shit, bro. I need to hear some reports.

   14. ASAndrew Santino9:34

       Yeah, dude. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:34

       (laughs)

   16. ASAndrew Santino9:34

       Test it out, man. Take it for a couple trial runs.

   17. GUGuest9:37

       I think it's, like, an Uber version of it. Like you could take an Uber.

   18. JRJoe Rogan9:39

       What? So you can just get it?

   19. ASAndrew Santino9:41

       Oh, that's cool.

   20. GUGuest9:42

       This is the future or something.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:42

       You remember that rental car company? Does that car still, company still around where you had an app and you could just rent a car and they would dr- drive it right to you?

   22. GUGuest9:49

       Yeah, I think so. I think so.

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:51

       It's still around?

   24. ASAndrew Santino9:51

       That's cool, how it transforms.

   25. GUGuest9:53

       Look at this fucking thing.

   26. ASAndrew Santino9:53

       Yeah, it's a drone. It's like a drone car.

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:55

       Oh, my god.

   28. GUGuest9:56

       Nice.

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:56

       And drones today, have you seen those competitions where they have, like, drone competitions-

   30. ASAndrew Santino10:02

       It's unreal.
7. 11:54 – 13:22

   Skill gaps in sports: golf, pool, and what ‘pro level’ really means

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:54

      It's literally like everything else. Like, we were just practicing driving golf balls out there earlier.

   2. ASAndrew Santino12:00

      It's fun.

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:00

      I can't even hit it. I'm missing. I'm whacking the ground.

   4. ASAndrew Santino12:04

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:04

      I can't... I, I don't know how to do it. And we were all j-... You guys are giving me pointers and shit, but I don't... I've never done it. I, I, I've done... Went to Topgolf a couple times to just whack the ball.

   6. ASAndrew Santino12:13

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:13

      I don't know what I'm doing.... but when I'm watching you guys, it's fascinating. I'm like, "How are you doing that?" 'Cause you hit it so fucking hard.

   8. ASAndrew Santino12:19

      (laughs) I fucking, I, I was-

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:20

      It's wild.

   10. ASAndrew Santino12:21

       ... I was trying to show off for Jamey a little bit, I'm not gonna lie.

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:23

       But, dude, you can, you can drive a fucking golf ball. That shit is impressive as fuck. Your technique is amazing.

   12. ASAndrew Santino12:29

       I want you to come with me.

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:29

       It's so smooth.

   14. ASAndrew Santino12:30

       I would love for you to see it live.

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:32

       I wanna see it live 'cause Jamey talks a lot of shit.

   16. ASAndrew Santino12:34

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:35

       I wanna see you, Jamey, and Hinchcliffe going at it.

   18. ASAndrew Santino12:37

       Fuck yeah. I mean- No, but I'm saying, you-

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:38

       ... just get baked and drive the car.

   20. ASAndrew Santino12:39

       Hell yeah. If you see pros live though-

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:42

       Hmm.

   22. ASAndrew Santino12:42

       ... I, I don't know if you've ever seen pros in person, but it's... The way that you're... even this gap of you being like, "I don't ever golf," and then I'm... You're like, "Wow, dude, you're good at that." When I watch those guys, it's l- it's the same feeling when you go to professional sports, and you're like, "That's un-fucking-real-

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:56

       Of course.

   24. ASAndrew Santino12:56

       ... how good they are."

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:57

       Yeah. Oh, yeah.

   26. ASAndrew Santino12:57

       It's, like, shocking to watch live.

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:59

       And if you are really good yourself and you are really good at golf, then you can really appreciate a pro.

   28. ASAndrew Santino13:03

       Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan13:04

       Whereas I can kind of appreciate it, but I don't know what's going on. It's sort of like with the UFC.

   30. ASAndrew Santino13:09

       Right.
8. 13:22 – 28:52

   Pool obsession deep dive: breaking perfection, equipment, and Fargo ratings

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:22

      You know, when you see, like, golfing or... We had this guy, Fedor Gost, came in. What... How old's Fedor? 23?

   2. ASAndrew Santino13:29

      22.

   3. JRJoe Rogan13:30

      22?

   4. ASAndrew Santino13:30

      I think so, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan13:31

      22, 23 years old. If not the best pool player in the world, top three for sure. We came in here, and we played him on that table. It was wild.

   6. ASAndrew Santino13:39

      Did you stand a little bit of a chance? You're good.

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:40

      I won the first two games.

   8. ASAndrew Santino13:41

      Oh, really?

   9. JRJoe Rogan13:42

      I ra- I ran out the first game, and I, and I won the second game.

   10. ASAndrew Santino13:44

       Take that, Fedor.

   11. JRJoe Rogan13:44

       I got lucky. Well, he gave me a shot in the first game. Like, uh, I think, uh, he broke and didn't have a shot on the, the, um, object ball. He pushed out, and I ran out.

   12. ASAndrew Santino13:55

       Where's he from?

   13. JRJoe Rogan13:55

       Something like that. Or he missed and ran out? I forget. He's from Russia originally, and, uh, he's got a green card, playing pool in the United States. But, dude, he is incredible. Like, wa- the level between me and him-

   14. ASAndrew Santino14:07

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan14:07

       ... who's like... I'm, like, a B player, you know, probably like you are in golf. I'm, like, a B player.

   16. ASAndrew Santino14:11

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan14:12

       And then watching him play, like, "Holy fuck, man."

   18. ASAndrew Santino14:15

       It's a different world.

   19. JRJoe Rogan14:16

       It's humiliating. (laughs)

   20. ASAndrew Santino14:18

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:18

       It's... He's so good, and his cue ball position is so perfect. Like, when he's moving the ball around, it's so effortless and smooth.

   22. ASAndrew Santino14:27

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan14:27

       And that ball just slides right where it's supposed to go, and then, whap, whap, knock- knocks that ball in. The ball slides right where it's supposed to go, and it's all the same speed. It's just this smooth, effortless stroke. Oh, my God, it's amazing.

   24. ASAndrew Santino14:41

       But that's what you do. That's the difference. That's what I s- like... I, I, I'm, you know, mediocre at best at pool, but it's because I don't have a... My fluidity is off with that. I'm not good at it.

   25. JRJoe Rogan14:50

       Yeah.

   26. ASAndrew Santino14:51

       Where, like, yours is like that. That's the same thing with golf. It's like it's all fluidity.

   27. JRJoe Rogan14:55

       I can play... If I played every day for, like, a year, I could be a shitty pro at-

   28. ASAndrew Santino15:02

       At pool?

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:02

       Yeah.

   30. ASAndrew Santino15:02

       Yeah.
9. 28:52 – 43:11

   Pressure, coaching, and why repeatability beats ‘perfect form’

   1. JRJoe Rogan28:52

      I played pool for a long time before I got coached. I got coached a little bit a couple of times. There were a few lessons when I was starting out in the beginning, in the early days. But then, uh, I met this dude, Max Eberl, who's, like, a professional instructor and also, like, a top-flight pro, and he coached me. Like, he, he gave me actual lessons.

   2. ASAndrew Santino29:09

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan29:09

      And when he gives you a-... Like, you learn so much. You learn what you're doing wrong, you learn why he's doing it this way. You learn, like, position play, which the right way to move a ball to another ball.

   4. ASAndrew Santino29:20

      Is everybody... You know, b- but, like, in golf, like, uh, everyone's stroke can be different.

   5. JRJoe Rogan29:26

      Mm-hmm.

   6. ASAndrew Santino29:27

      So, like, is there a... is there a single, like, uh, perfect stroke that everyone's trying to emulate?

   7. JRJoe Rogan29:32

      No.

   8. ASAndrew Santino29:32

      No. So, it's the same thing.

   9. JRJoe Rogan29:33

      Yeah, it's the same thing.

   10. ASAndrew Santino29:34

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan29:34

       Everything's all weird. Like, there was a guy named Keith McCready and he had, like, the greatest stroke of all time and his arm was, like, totally sideways. It was-

   12. ASAndrew Santino29:41

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan29:41

       ... totally fucked up. Like, you're supposed to... It's supposed to be, like, 90 degrees-

   14. ASAndrew Santino29:44

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan29:44

       ... from your elbow down.

   16. ASAndrew Santino29:45

       Yeah, like, forward.

   17. JRJoe Rogan29:46

       If, if someone was teaching you... Like, if you watch a snooker player, for example, they call it snooker.

   18. ASAndrew Santino29:50

       Snooker.

   19. JRJoe Rogan29:51

       Like, they're playing on a giant-ass table with little tiny balls, so they have to have perfect technique.

   20. ASAndrew Santino29:55

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan29:56

       The way they hit the ball is so straight and so smooth. And they make really good pool players. A lot of those guys come over and start playing pool and dominate 'cause they're so accurate, 'cause they're used to these little tiny balls and th- they're used to having this perfect stroke. But pool players, they do all kinds of different shit. Like, some guys, you got, like, the guys who, like, have that slip-stroke thing going on.

   22. ASAndrew Santino30:17

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       You got guys who are like Keith McCready, who's the, the rarest of the rare, who's totally sideways with his arm. Like, his arm would be like this while he's playing. He wouldn't be playing like this.

   24. ASAndrew Santino30:25

       But it's out here.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       It's out, out on the side.

   26. ASAndrew Santino30:27

       But it works.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       'Cause he learned how to play when he was a little kid and he couldn't reach the table.

   28. ASAndrew Santino30:31

       Oh, wow. That's-

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       So he had to have his arm up there like this.

   30. ASAndrew Santino30:33

       So he was up like this.
10. 43:11 – 47:53

    Cirque du Soleil awe, Beatles craftsmanship, and songwriting ‘magic’

    1. ASAndrew Santino43:11

       Have you seen the one where they jump in the water?

    2. JRJoe Rogan43:13

       Which one?

    3. ASAndrew Santino43:13

       Uh, um, the Cirque du Soleil, uh, Le Rêve. Did you ever heard of this?

    4. JRJoe Rogan43:19

       No.

    5. ASAndrew Santino43:20

       Bro, I don't even know if it's around anymore. But when I went to Vegas one time, I got fucking baked out of my mind and went to see them.

    6. JRJoe Rogan43:24

       (laughs)

    7. ASAndrew Santino43:24

       And dude, I audibly, like an old lady, I'd be like, "Ha!"

    8. JRJoe Rogan43:28

       (laughs)

    9. ASAndrew Santino43:28

       'Cause I got nervous. They would jump in these little tiny, tiny holes from, like, 70 feet up, just into a little tiny... But if they missed, they, they're dead. The, the floor moves underwater.

    10. JRJoe Rogan43:38

        Oh my God.

    11. ASAndrew Santino43:39

        So, you'll watch it raise up underwater, shift heights, they'll climb up from one of the... And acrobatically climb to the other one, and then it'll drop into the water out of nowhere, and then it'll raise up a little tiny window they have to dive into. Dude, it's... Have you seen... Uh, Le Rêve, I think is what it was called. It will... I don't know if it's around, but if it's still around, go see it, 'cause that was the wildest shit I've ever seen.

    12. JRJoe Rogan43:58

        That sounds so dangerous.

    13. ASAndrew Santino43:58

        Oh, dude. Every show, to me, has to be such a high level of precision. There is no, like... You know when, like, a band is like, "Dude, you missed that fucking..."

    14. JRJoe Rogan44:06

        Right. You can't miss shit.

    15. ASAndrew Santino44:08

        You're not missing a chord. (laughs)

    16. JRJoe Rogan44:09

        (laughs)

    17. ASAndrew Santino44:10

        It's your, it's your neck in the water. I saw it years ago-

    18. JRJoe Rogan44:13

        I saw the, The Beatles one at The Mirage.

    19. ASAndrew Santino44:15

        Oh yeah, I think I... No, I think I saw that.

    20. JRJoe Rogan44:16

        It's called Love.

    21. ASAndrew Santino44:16

        Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan44:16

        It's fucking great.

    23. ASAndrew Santino44:17

        Dudes on rollerblades doing flips and shit too.

    24. JRJoe Rogan44:19

        But it's the music. You, you, it also, you sort of rediscover the music of The Beatles. Like, you forget how good their music was sometimes.

    25. ASAndrew Santino44:28

        So good.

    26. JRJoe Rogan44:28

        And when you hear it in that amazing arena where they have the Cirque du Soleil, and the sound is incredible, and the visuals are incredible-

    27. ASAndrew Santino44:36

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan44:36

        ... you're like, "These guys."

    29. ASAndrew Santino44:38

        Unreal.

    30. JRJoe Rogan44:39

        Goddamn.
11. 47:53 – 54:20

    Hip-hop favorites, sampling realities, and licensing pitfalls

    1. JRJoe Rogan47:53

       Because he'll, like, he'll do a rap backwards. Like, he'll do the whole... You remember that song Reverse?

    2. ASAndrew Santino47:57

       I love that song, yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan47:58

       That song's incredible.

    4. ASAndrew Santino47:59

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan47:59

       That is, like, one of the most lyrically complicated and beautiful songs ever in the history of hip-hop.

    6. ASAndrew Santino48:05

       And it also has the ability to just toss in there, "He's getting a blowjob and throws up." That's also my favorite. (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan48:10

       (laughs)

    8. ASAndrew Santino48:10

       He's a poet, and he's like, she's like, "Spits the nut back into my, spits the nut back into my dick. The drink goes back into my cup. I throw up." Dude, it's-

    9. JRJoe Rogan48:19

       Yeah.

    10. ASAndrew Santino48:19

        ... it's so cool how he was able to tell that story backwards, but also still keep it in his vibe. Do you know what I mean?

    11. JRJoe Rogan48:27

        Yes.

    12. ASAndrew Santino48:27

        Like, it didn't break character. It was still Nas telling a story-

    13. JRJoe Rogan48:30

        Yeah.

    14. ASAndrew Santino48:30

        ... like Nas would. It didn't get corny at any point or, like, change shape.

    15. JRJoe Rogan48:33

        His new shit is great too.

    16. ASAndrew Santino48:35

        I love Nas.

    17. JRJoe Rogan48:35

        His new shit, he, he stays fantastic. He stays relevant. Like, if you're, uh, a, like, a Nas fan, you will not be disappointed. His new shit is-

    18. ASAndrew Santino48:44

        I love him.

    19. JRJoe Rogan48:44

        ... just like his old shit. It's great. He's so good.

    20. ASAndrew Santino48:46

        That was the hip-hop that I liked.

    21. JRJoe Rogan48:48

        Yeah.

    22. ASAndrew Santino48:48

        Jamie and I talk sometimes about hip-hop, but I... The new stuff, uh, some new shit I, I like a lot, but it... You know, stuff like-

    23. JRJoe Rogan48:55

        Bro, his sh-

    24. ASAndrew Santino48:55

        ... Illmatic and...

    25. JRJoe Rogan48:56

        Hip Hop is Dead.

    26. ASAndrew Santino48:57

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan48:58

        Come on, son. That song comes... (singing)

    28. ASAndrew Santino48:59

        So good. (singing)

    29. JRJoe Rogan49:01

        That song comes on, you're like, "Oh, shit."

    30. ASAndrew Santino49:04

        Yeah.
12. 54:20 – 1:01:48

    Godzilla & King Kong: how ‘scary’ effects age and why practical feels real

    1. JRJoe Rogan54:20

       Try to find ... You find Godzilla's Emergence?

    2. GUGuest54:22

       No, that's, that's it. It's from a 1992 film.

    3. ASAndrew Santino54:25

       Hmm.

    4. JRJoe Rogan54:26

       That sound is?

    5. GUGuest54:26

       Yes.

    6. JRJoe Rogan54:27

       Oh, it's the 1992 Godzilla?

    7. GUGuest54:28

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan54:28

       Probably a way better Godzilla.

    9. GUGuest54:29

       This is, uh, it's from, it's from a soundtrack. 1992.

    10. ASAndrew Santino54:32

        So it's not the original Godzilla?

    11. GUGuest54:34

        That ... The original ... So it's f- this says it's from Go- Whether or not this is right or not, I guess we'll have to go into that, but this-

    12. JRJoe Rogan54:39

        Godzilla versus Mothra?

    13. GUGuest54:40

        Yeah, this says it's from Godzilla versus Mothra, which came out in 1992.

    14. ASAndrew Santino54:43

        Okay.

    15. GUGuest54:43

        And then I found that movie, but I have no idea where they would've used that 12-second sample 'cause-

    16. ASAndrew Santino54:48

        (singing)

    17. GUGuest54:49

        ... it's-

    18. ASAndrew Santino54:49

        ... it's on the soundtrack.

    19. JRJoe Rogan54:51

        This is, this is the whole movie of Godzilla versus Mothra?

    20. GUGuest54:53

        Yeah, like, uh-

    21. JRJoe Rogan54:53

        Just show Godzilla coming out so let's see-

    22. ASAndrew Santino54:55

        Yeah, let's see him.

    23. JRJoe Rogan54:56

        ... what happens.

    24. GUGuest54:56

        I guar- it's ... There's a hard ...

    25. JRJoe Rogan54:58

        It's hard to find it?

    26. GUGuest54:59

        Yeah, I don't know where ... I've never seen this movie.

    27. ASAndrew Santino55:01

        I never seen this-

    28. JRJoe Rogan55:01

        Well, this g- (laughs)

    29. GUGuest55:04

        (laughs)

    30. JRJoe Rogan55:04

        And then Godzilla versus Mothra-
13. 1:01:48 – 1:09:36

    Demons, death as a ‘vessel,’ and Vatican darkness (scandals & mysteries)

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:01:48

       Do you believe in demons now?

    2. ASAndrew Santino1:01:49

       Still do, yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:01:50

       Do you?

    4. ASAndrew Santino1:01:50

       For sure.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:01:51

       They might be real.

    6. ASAndrew Santino1:01:52

       They gotta be. There's gotta be external forces around. I can't imagine that all this energy in your body goes to nowhere. I don't buy it.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:02:01

       Well, that's not even the, the question about demons. Like, what you, what energy, where your energy goes is a, is a really good question. But the question about demons is are there external forces that are playing against you-

    8. ASAndrew Santino1:02:11

       Oh, yeah.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:02:11

       ... that are actual entities?

    10. ASAndrew Santino1:02:13

        But I think negative energy goes into those things. That's what I guess I mean, is like-

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:02:17

        Hmm.

    12. ASAndrew Santino1:02:17

        ... I think what builds those things is negative-

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:02:20

        Right.

    14. ASAndrew Santino1:02:20

        ... really toxic, evil shit-

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:02:22

        Hmm.

    16. ASAndrew Santino1:02:22

        ... builds negative things.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:02:23

        In another dimension.

    18. ASAndrew Santino1:02:24

        Fuck yeah.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:02:25

        Ooh.

    20. ASAndrew Santino1:02:26

        I definitely believe that.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:02:27

        Right. And if you're doing, like, evil shit, you're probably even more haunted by those things.

    22. ASAndrew Santino1:02:31

        When you die, it doesn't just go awa- it goes somewhere, into a thing. I don't, like, I wholeheartedly believe that. And it, and honestly, like, uh, the first time I really felt, like when I saw, uh, wh- you know, the Irish, f- for some reason, we love wakes. We like to see people when they're dead. I like how the Jews do it. They're like, "I'm not fucking looking at that person when they're dead."

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:02:50

        I had the same experience. I know what you're gonna say.

    24. ASAndrew Santino1:02:52

        And I wa- I, I couldn't see, look at my grandmother the whole time, and then my mom was like, "We're gonna leave, so you oughta say goodbye." And I was like, "All right," and I walked up there and, uh, I, like I felt this sense of relief because I was like, "Oh, the thing I loved isn't even in there anymore."

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:03:09

        Right.

    26. ASAndrew Santino1:03:10

        This was a vessel.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:03:11

        Yes.

    28. ASAndrew Santino1:03:11

        And whatever was in there is somewhere better and it's, uh, it just, I felt immediately, like, this weird, like someone was telling me, like-

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:03:20

        Yeah.

    30. ASAndrew Santino1:03:20

        ... "This is just the shell, man. The thing you like, it's in a really great place here. All, it's all good." It's-

Episode duration: 3:20:26