Joe Rogan Experience #1960 - Andrew Schulz

1. 0:00 – 1:22

   Archery first-timer: Schulz nails a 40-yard compound-bow shot

   1. ASAndrew Schulz0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) What's happening, big dog?

   3. ASAndrew Schulz0:13

      Mm. What's up, my man?

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Hey. First archery shot ever.

   5. ASAndrew Schulz0:18

      Oh, that was cool.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      40 yards with an 80-pound compound bow. You got it right in the fucking vitals.

   7. ASAndrew Schulz0:26

      It was cool.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:26

      That's an amazing thing. You should probably quit now.

   9. ASAndrew Schulz0:29

      Yeah. Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       I mean, to take ... First of all, the bow's not even set up for you.

   11. ASAndrew Schulz0:33

       Yeah. (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       The way the bow is set up is, for me, I have shorter arms than you.

   13. ASAndrew Schulz0:36

       Correct.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       You would have a longer draw length, so you have to kind of, like, move your body a little, and you center that peep sight. Bro, that's a long shot for a first shot ever in a bow, 40 yards in an indoor range.

   15. ASAndrew Schulz0:49

       And what were you-

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       And you got it right in the vitals.

   17. ASAndrew Schulz0:51

       Yeah. Now, what were you thinking when I struggled to pull it back?

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Uh, normal. It's weird. It's-

   19. ASAndrew Schulz0:57

       Oh, that is a-

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       It's awkward.

   21. ASAndrew Schulz0:57

       ... common thing that happened?

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       Yeah. Oh, you didn't have any excuses at least. Bryan Callahan had a fucking ...

   23. ASAndrew Schulz1:03

       Wait, what did he say?

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Just reading a scroll of excuses.

   25. ASAndrew Schulz1:05

       (laughs) Wait, what did he say? (laughs) "My labrum-"

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       "It's tech- probably technique," you know something. Like, no, it's, it's a strength thing.

   27. ASAndrew Schulz1:10

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       I mean, it is technique, but it's just ... 80 pounds is 80 pounds.

   29. ASAndrew Schulz1:14

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       It's, it's a lot of weight.
2. 1:22 – 4:23

   Mongol warfare, strategy, and the rise-and-fall lesson for modern empires

   1. ASAndrew Schulz1:22

      Like, it puts in perspective, like, the people who can do it on horseback. You know, you see it in the movies and shit like that, and like, I don't know why I didn't think it was that hard, but ...

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:30

      Yeah, that's a next level thing. The horseback thing is crazy.

   3. ASAndrew Schulz1:32

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:32

      The Mongols would time their shot when the horse was in the air.

   5. ASAndrew Schulz1:36

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:37

      So when the horse was in the air, then they would release it.

   7. ASAndrew Schulz1:38

      Oh, mid-gallop.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:39

      Yes, so there would be less disturbance, less jolt on their body.

   9. ASAndrew Schulz1:43

      So was that ... Yeah, we always talk about, like, Genghis Khan and how he was able to take over the world. Was the competitive advantage horseback weaponry?

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:54

       They had a lot of things going for them. They had strategy, first of all.

   11. ASAndrew Schulz1:57

       Mm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:58

       They, they had devious, wild strategies. Like, they would set people up. Like, they would, they would send a small party out, and those people-

   13. ASAndrew Schulz2:07

       I heard of it.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:07

       ... would go after the small party and chase them down, and they would lead them into, like, a canyon-

   15. ASAndrew Schulz2:11

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:11

       ... filled with Mongols and just slaughter-

   17. ASAndrew Schulz2:13

       Yeah. (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:13

       ... everybody and block the exit.

   19. ASAndrew Schulz2:15

       (laughs) Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:16

       They would, uh, hold a siege. They, they would attack a city, and they would bring so much food and so much ... so many supplies, they could just camp out inside, outside the city-

   21. ASAndrew Schulz2:27

       Oh, and wait for them to starve.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:28

       ... until everybody's starved out. And then, they would start killing people and lighting them on fire and putting them on catapults and launching them over the walls-

   23. ASAndrew Schulz2:39

       (laughs) Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:39

       ... and light their own houses on fire-

   25. ASAndrew Schulz2:41

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:41

       ... with the dead bodies of people they killed.

   27. ASAndrew Schulz2:43

       That's motivational.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:44

       Bro.

   29. ASAndrew Schulz2:45

       Yeah. I lo- Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:45

       Those motherfuckers killed 10% of the population.
3. 4:23 – 6:24

   Nukes, China ‘slow war’ theories, and Putin vs. the unthinkable first strike

   1. ASAndrew Schulz4:23

      Now, did those civilizations have nukes?

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:26

      No. (laughs) No. That's the problem.

   3. ASAndrew Schulz4:29

      That's the tricky thing.

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:31

      Yeah, the problem is if we go out, we go out ugly, but unless-

   5. ASAndrew Schulz4:35

      Everybody goes out.

   6. JRJoe Rogan4:35

      ... China is clever, and they slowly dismantle our power grid and slowly pollute our country with, like, bombing chemical factories and do it slow over a long period of time ... Like, if you were a real conspiracy theorist, like one of them Reddit-

   7. ASAndrew Schulz4:53

      Let's go deep. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan4:54

      ... tinfoil hat-

   9. ASAndrew Schulz4:55

      Let's go deep, my boy.

   10. JRJoe Rogan4:57

       ... (laughs) you would think that China would not do a big thing-

   11. ASAndrew Schulz5:01

       It's-

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:01

       ... but a constant series of small things that people get accustomed to.

   13. ASAndrew Schulz5:05

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:06

       You know, cyberwarfare. They would start, you know, hacking into Google servers, Amazon servers, crash everything.

   15. ASAndrew Schulz5:15

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan5:15

       Financial disruption.

   17. ASAndrew Schulz5:17

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan5:18

       Crash power grids. Do it slow.

   19. ASAndrew Schulz5:20

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:20

       Do it over decades, you got plenty of time. As long as you don't no- nuke United States first, they're not gonna nuke you.

   21. ASAndrew Schulz5:26

       That's right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:26

       They're not gonna ... We already did-

   23. ASAndrew Schulz5:27

       Like-

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:27

       ... that once.

   25. ASAndrew Schulz5:28

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:28

       We're not gonna do that.

   27. ASAndrew Schulz5:29

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan5:29

       If anybody is gonna be a first bomber, it's not gonna be us. It's not gonna be us.

   29. ASAndrew Schulz5:34

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:35

       There's no way.
4. 6:24 – 8:52

   TikTok ban talk: data harvesting, manipulation, and culture-war leverage

   1. ASAndrew Schulz6:24

      So, is that the concern with TikTok?

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:26

      Oh, yeah. There was some fascinating conversations today. Uh, w-

   3. ASAndrew Schulz6:29

      'Cause it looks like they're gonna ban it.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:32

      For sure, they're not telling the truth.

   5. ASAndrew Schulz6:34

      Mm-hmm.

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:34

      Like, the way this CEO was talking to the senator today is like, oh my God. It's like, they just want to say whatever they have to say to get out of there.

   7. ASAndrew Schulz6:43

      Wow, what did he say? (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:43

      Like, he doesn't answer the questions. He dances around, and the, the senator keeps trying to say, "That's a yes or no question."

   9. ASAndrew Schulz6:49

      Right.

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:49

       "That's a yes or no question."

   11. ASAndrew Schulz6:50

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan6:51

       Like, these dudes have been sending data to China from day one.

   13. ASAndrew Schulz6:55

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:55

       And they're doing something with that data.

   15. ASAndrew Schulz6:57

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:57

       They're accumulating, they're finding out how coordinated our kids are.

   17. ASAndrew Schulz7:00

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:00

       They, they got facial recognition on all of them.

   19. ASAndrew Schulz7:02

       That's what the dances are about? They're just trying to find out how coordinated?

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:05

       Imagine.

   21. ASAndrew Schulz7:06

       Bro. Wow, every TikTok trend is just a little bit of p-... a little information about our youth. Hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:13

       Also, how easily, like, led they are. You could get them to that app.

   23. ASAndrew Schulz7:18

       Well, clout is the currency.

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:19

       All you have to do is... Well, it's clout, but it's-

   25. ASAndrew Schulz7:20

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:21

       ... they have so many things going for them. First of all, it's very easy to get a big following there.

   27. ASAndrew Schulz7:25

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:25

       It's very easy to get shared.

   29. ASAndrew Schulz7:26

       Instantaneous, it feels.

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:27

       You can blow up.
5. 8:52 – 11:12

   Cold War childhood fears, the Berlin Wall’s fall, and ‘90s American complacency

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:52

      I remember when the wall came down, we were so relaxed. It was amazing, because-

   2. ASAndrew Schulz8:56

      Wait, wait, take me back to this. So, there was a time-

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:58

      All right, see, when I was in high school-

   4. ASAndrew Schulz9:00

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:00

      ... okay, in the 1980s, I went, I was in... I was a freshman in 1981. And back then, we were terrified of war with Russia. It was a terrifying fear of a nuclear war with the Soviet Union.

   6. ASAndrew Schulz9:12

      And, and break this down to me. So, it's like, is it you're, you're watching the news, and they keep... Is there, like, fearmongering? Do you believe it? Does it feel-

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:19

      100% fearmongering-

   8. ASAndrew Schulz9:19

      ... like propagandist?

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:21

      100%, there was fearmongering.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz9:22

       Hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:23

       Um, there was, uh, a... There was de-... Look, it's always been if it bleeds, it leads-

   12. ASAndrew Schulz9:29

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:29

       ... in the news.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz9:30

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:30

       You know, we talk about how bad the news is today. But the reality is, like five o'clock news, when you get home from work, it was always the worst shit that happened. "Double homicide in-

   16. ASAndrew Schulz9:39

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:39

       ... Brooklyn."

   18. ASAndrew Schulz9:40

       Yeah, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:40

       It's always the worst shit of the day. And, and also out of perspective, 'cause it's the worst shit out of millions and millions of people, right? But the big one was always Russia.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz9:49

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:49

       And you would see the Soviet Union, and, you know, you would see their leaders and you would see their army, and it was terrifying.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz9:57

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:57

       They were the last great communist empire-

   24. ASAndrew Schulz10:00

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:00

       ... you know, before China.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz10:01

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:01

       Right before China really blew up militarily.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz10:03

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:04

       Back then, we weren't worried about China. Everybody was worried about the Soviet Union.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz10:07

       And you felt fear as a youth.
6. 11:12 – 14:37

   Cars, psychedelics, and the 1970 drug scheduling: a weird creativity theory

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:12

      Bad things were made in the '90s. Some of the worst American cars that have ever existed were made during the '90s. We got real sloppy in the '90s. I look at...

   2. ASAndrew Schulz11:21

      How-

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:21

      Like, one of the things I look about with America, like, how in tune America is-

   4. ASAndrew Schulz11:24

      Is, is automobiles-

   5. JRJoe Rogan11:24

      ... what's their cars like? What's their cars like?

   6. ASAndrew Schulz11:27

      So, space race produces-

   7. JRJoe Rogan11:29

      Yeah.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz11:29

      ... some of the most beautiful cars out there.

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:30

      Space race and psychedelic drugs.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz11:33

       So, space race is-

   11. JRJoe Rogan11:34

       There's a direct correlation.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz11:36

       '60s?

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:36

       Between... Yes.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz11:37

       So, you have all the cars that are coming out-

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:38

       '50s too.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz11:39

       ... '50s, '60s-

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:40

       'Cause '63 was when Kennedy says-

   18. ASAndrew Schulz11:42

       Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:42

       ... we want to put the first man on the moon.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz11:44

       So, they're using all that crazy space...... influence or, like, spaceship influence on the cars-

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:49

       Not-

   22. ASAndrew Schulz11:49

       ... and there's no restrictions, right? Like-

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:51

       Not much. Not much space influence, really. Uh-

   24. ASAndrew Schulz11:54

       I mean, some of these big, like... What is it? The big Cadillacs and stuff like that-

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:57

       Mm-hmm.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz11:57

       ... they look like a fucking spaceship, right?

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:58

       They do. Yeah, the old ones.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz12:00

       And there was no restrictions, right?

   29. JRJoe Rogan12:02

       Yeah.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz12:02

       Like, you didn't have to go, "Okay, it has to have this much gas mileage." Or-
7. 14:37 – 18:16

   Low-stakes conspiracies: pyramids, cataclysms, and ‘lost’ branches of technology

   1. ASAndrew Schulz14:37

      I was... I was, uh, I was, I was messaging you, I think, about, um, after we had Ben, Ben van Kirkuk on the pod, and, um, UnchartedX, the guy who does the pyramids.

   2. JRJoe Rogan14:46

      Yes.

   3. ASAndrew Schulz14:47

      And, um-

   4. JRJoe Rogan14:47

      He's great.

   5. ASAndrew Schulz14:47

      Uh, he's, he's great. And, uh, e- everybody was like, "Dude, it's so awesome Shane Gillis' dad showed up to the pod." And I was like, "What?" And I guess they think that he, that he looks like Shane.

   6. JRJoe Rogan14:58

      (laughs)

   7. ASAndrew Schulz14:58

      An older version of Shane. (laughs) But what I loved about the pyramid conspiracy is that the stakes are so low, right?

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      Yeah.

   9. ASAndrew Schulz15:04

      There's no pedophilia.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:05

       Nothing.

   11. ASAndrew Schulz15:05

       Nobody's dying.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:06

       Nothing.

   13. ASAndrew Schulz15:07

       It's like, did it happen? Did it not happen?

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:09

       It's just, how old is this civilization?

   15. ASAndrew Schulz15:11

       That's it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       That's it.

   17. ASAndrew Schulz15:11

       Is it 4,000? Is it 10,000?

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:12

       But do you know that even with that... 'Cause Graham Hancock has a whole series-

   19. ASAndrew Schulz15:16

       Oh, yeah. The- they call you racist and shit like that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:17

       They call him a racist.

   21. ASAndrew Schulz15:18

       I'm not saying that Black people didn't still do it. He- it's just older Black people.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       Well, listen, 100% was Black people.

   23. ASAndrew Schulz15:23

       Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       It was 100% people in Africa.

   25. ASAndrew Schulz15:25

       (laughs) Yeah. State the facts. Yeah, yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:25

       The pyramids were 100% built by people who lived in Africa.

   27. ASAndrew Schulz15:29

       Yes, yeah, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       That's it.

   29. ASAndrew Schulz15:30

       Yeah, yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       And all Graham Hancock is saying-
8. 18:16 – 22:10

   ChatGPT as ‘god,’ Hedy Lamarr’s frequency-hopping, and old Hollywood violence

   1. ASAndrew Schulz18:16

      It's, it's the same way that, like, do you fuck with the ChatGPT thing at all?

   2. JRJoe Rogan18:20

      Yeah.

   3. ASAndrew Schulz18:20

      Okay. I, I, I don't even know what to ask it because I'm not familiar enough with what AI can do. So-

   4. JRJoe Rogan18:29

      Usually-

   5. ASAndrew Schulz18:29

      ... I would still ask it, like, Google questions 'cause that's what I'm fluent in.

   6. JRJoe Rogan18:33

      Yeah. I think you could-

   7. ASAndrew Schulz18:34

      Does, does that make sense?

   8. JRJoe Rogan18:35

      I think you can talk to ChatGPT-4 as if it's a god.

   9. ASAndrew Schulz18:40

      So, so I would just... (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan18:42

       (laughs)

   11. ASAndrew Schulz18:42

       Oh, I got some questions. Uh-

   12. JRJoe Rogan18:44

       Right? Am I close?

   13. NANarrator18:45

       Uh, sure.

   14. JRJoe Rogan18:46

       Maybe ChatGBT-5?

   15. ASAndrew Schulz18:48

       Can we chat GBT now?

   16. NANarrator18:49

       If you tell it, if you tell it it's a god, it'll definitely start talking to you-

   17. ASAndrew Schulz18:51

       Wait, can we talk to it now?

   18. NANarrator18:53

       ... like it is.

   19. JRJoe Rogan18:53

       Can... Yeah, you can talk to it. Hey, you know who invented wifi?

   20. ASAndrew Schulz18:56

       Who?

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:57

       Hedy Lamarr.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz18:58

       Who's that?

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:58

       The actress. That's true, right? It's not Bluetooth, right? It was wifi she invented. Is that correct? Hedy Lamarr, who was this gorgeous actress, uh, was a brilliant woman who, like, had a, a, quite a few inventions.

   24. NANarrator19:13

       Technically both.

   25. JRJoe Rogan19:13

       Yeah.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz19:15

       Stunning.

   27. JRJoe Rogan19:15

       Although she died in 2000, Lamarr was inducted into the nash- National, National Inventors Hall of Fame for the development of her frequency hopping technology in 2014. She did it way before 2014 though. Uh, such achievement has led Lamarr to be dubbed the Mother of Wifi and other wireless communications like GPS and Bluetooth.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz19:33

       Wait, and why did she invent this? For playback or something like that?

   29. JRJoe Rogan19:36

       Do- I don't... I think she was a scientist before she was an actress. She was just hot and no one gave a fuck. (laughs)

   30. ASAndrew Schulz19:42

       I mean, she is stunning.
9. 22:10 – 23:28

   Parenting and discipline: why Joe rejects hitting kids

   1. ASAndrew Schulz22:10

      You would never discipline?

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:12

      Never. You don't have to do that.

   3. ASAndrew Schulz22:14

      Hmm.

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:15

      They, they want you to love them.

   5. ASAndrew Schulz22:17

      Okay, question-

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:18

      They make mistakes. You gotta communicate with 'em.

   7. ASAndrew Schulz22:20

      I have a question about that. What about when they are... How do you communicate with a child before he understands verbal commands, and how do you communicate right from wrong?

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:32

      Well, I mean, before they understand verbal commands, you're, you're talking about babies, right?

   9. ASAndrew Schulz22:36

      Mm-hmm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:36

       They don't real... I mean, they can't even walk yet. They start talk-

   11. ASAndrew Schulz22:39

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan22:39

       My daughter started talking when she was nine months old.

   13. ASAndrew Schulz22:41

       Was that early?

   14. JRJoe Rogan22:42

       Yeah. She's walking then too. She's walking and talking very early.

   15. ASAndrew Schulz22:47

       Hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan22:48

       One of my daughters. Um, but the other one was, like, a year. But, uh, what I'm saying is, like, when their l- verbal commands or just learning things, like, they're babies.

   17. ASAndrew Schulz22:58

       Hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan22:59

       They can't do anything.

   19. ASAndrew Schulz23:00

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:00

       They can't even run away from you.

   21. ASAndrew Schulz23:01

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:01

       Like, they're, they're little tiny babies.

   23. ASAndrew Schulz23:03

       So at that age, you're not even-

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:03

       Toddlers.

   25. ASAndrew Schulz23:04

       ... teaching right from wrong?

   26. JRJoe Rogan23:05

       You are.

   27. ASAndrew Schulz23:06

       You're just kind of-

   28. JRJoe Rogan23:06

       You are. You're... But you're talking to them. You know, you talk to them with, like, sweetness, but you always talk... I always try to talk to my children-

   29. ASAndrew Schulz23:13

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan23:13

       ... like they are, uh, an adult that I respect.
10. 23:28 – 39:13

    Comedy Mothership: building a club to develop talent (not maximize profit)

    1. ASAndrew Schulz23:28

       And, uh, it was, it was a cool side to see. The club is just fantastic, man.

    2. JRJoe Rogan23:32

       The club's wild, right?

    3. ASAndrew Schulz23:33

       It was so cool.

    4. JRJoe Rogan23:34

       It's a dream, dude.

    5. ASAndrew Schulz23:35

       I know. And it's a-

    6. JRJoe Rogan23:35

       It's a dream that I didn't even have. I didn't even have that dream. I didn't wanna own a club.

    7. ASAndrew Schulz23:38

       Yeah, no comic goes into it going, "I wanna own a club."

    8. JRJoe Rogan23:41

       Yeah.

    9. ASAndrew Schulz23:42

       And then you do it. But it was an interesting thing, like I had this weird sensation. I said to you yesterday, but I was just like, I'm, like, proud of you, but I don't mean that in like a, I don't know, patronizing way. Like-... I'm genuinely proud of you, but there's a specific thing, and I was thinking about this last night when I went back, about the club. And you kept talking about, like, this way of, like, funneling and nurturing talent. You're like, "Yeah, these are the comics that are gonna come up and we're gonna invest in these, like, local Texas comics. And then they're gonna go do these shows around the world, or around the country, and we're gonna send..." What was it? The, the, "This is the mothership, the Mothership Presents," and it's in all these, you know, comedy clubs around. And I thought of the club and I did both of the rooms, and the rooms do separate things for comedic growth that are, is really important.

    10. JRJoe Rogan24:34

        Yeah.

    11. ASAndrew Schulz24:36

        That little room teaches intimacy and connection.

    12. JRJoe Rogan24:38

        Yeah.

    13. ASAndrew Schulz24:39

        You can't just go up there and say words.

    14. JRJoe Rogan24:41

        Right.

    15. ASAndrew Schulz24:41

        You have to connect with them.

    16. JRJoe Rogan24:42

        Yeah.

    17. ASAndrew Schulz24:43

        Sometimes in big rooms you can just say words, and you don't have to connect because the connection is a little bit off.

    18. JRJoe Rogan24:49

        Yeah.

    19. ASAndrew Schulz24:49

        There's a little bit of a filter, so you can perform, which is another thing you have to learn. But the small rooms, which is a lot of the times the New York guys that we get really good at, is like, those laughs die quick, so you better tag up that joke. You better punch it up hard. You better make sure you're cooking. It, it is, there's like a pace that you can kind of build.

    20. JRJoe Rogan25:06

        Yeah.

    21. ASAndrew Schulz25:07

        So the small room, they get to learn how to really fucking put your foot on somebody.

    22. JRJoe Rogan25:11

        You know another thing that comes out of the, the, these, uh, rooms on the East Coast-

    23. ASAndrew Schulz25:15

        Mm.

    24. JRJoe Rogan25:15

        ... is the cold weather. Cold weather makes people impatient. They don't wanna hear your bullshit.

    25. ASAndrew Schulz25:20

        Hm. Hm. Hm. Hm. Hm.

    26. JRJoe Rogan25:20

        It's freezing outside.

    27. ASAndrew Schulz25:21

        Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan25:21

        They, they wanna go, go, go, go, go.

    29. ASAndrew Schulz25:23

        (laughs)

    30. JRJoe Rogan25:23

        Jesus fucking Christ. They get inside-
11. 39:13 – 1:02:56

    Stand-up craft: Lenny Bruce to Pryor, reps, arena timing, and the muse

    1. JRJoe Rogan39:13

       Here's the other thing about it is, though, that, like, um, in Barry's time, there really... Comedy was new. We have really had to have, have to understand our art form in a historical perspective. What do you want on the end of that one?

    2. ASAndrew Schulz39:25

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan39:25

       In a historical perspective?

    4. ASAndrew Schulz39:27

       Mm-hmm.

    5. JRJoe Rogan39:27

       Because our art form really didn't even branch off into what you and I do until Lenny Bruce.

    6. ASAndrew Schulz39:35

       Hm.

    7. JRJoe Rogan39:36

       So, we're... What is Lenny Bruce's era? Is like late '50s, early '60s, and into... Like, when did Lenny die? He die-... When he died, the end of Lenny's career... And by the way, I'm a giant Lenny Bruce fan. I mean, if you go walk into my club, one of the first things you see is, is a big-ass picture of Lenny Bruce.

    8. ASAndrew Schulz39:58

       Well-

    9. JRJoe Rogan39:58

       So, he died in 1966. And you have to understand, like, the last couple years of his life-

    10. ASAndrew Schulz40:05

        Hm.

    11. JRJoe Rogan40:06

        ... were completely entangled in legal battles.

    12. ASAndrew Schulz40:09

        Yep.

    13. JRJoe Rogan40:10

        So, like, the Lenny Bruce that we're talking about... So, like, late '50s, this guy in-... literally invents an art form, because it just didn't really exist that way. I mean, Mark Twain did some spoken word stuff where he read some of his books, and he was apparently very funny. And p- people talk about Mark... Maybe Mark Twain was, like, the first standup.

    14. ASAndrew Schulz40:30

        Hm.

    15. JRJoe Rogan40:30

        The first guy to do standup.

    16. ASAndrew Schulz40:31

        Hm.

    17. JRJoe Rogan40:31

        But then there was guys who just did jokes, and they would, like, tell... Like two Jews walk into a bar, those kind of jokes.

    18. ASAndrew Schulz40:37

        Like the Borschtel comedians-

    19. JRJoe Rogan40:37

        Borschtel comedians.

    20. ASAndrew Schulz40:38

        ... that were coming up. Yeah, the Catskills, yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan40:39

        And they would s- they would all steal from each other. They would all have-

    22. ASAndrew Schulz40:41

        It, it was like house jokes.

    23. JRJoe Rogan40:42

        Yeah.

    24. ASAndrew Schulz40:43

        Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan40:43

        House jokes. Lot of house jokes.

    26. ASAndrew Schulz40:44

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan40:44

        It was a lot of really dumb shit.

    28. ASAndrew Schulz40:47

        Mm-hmm.

    29. JRJoe Rogan40:47

        And then... But, you know, funny. Good times, you know? Whatever.

    30. ASAndrew Schulz40:50

        And there was guys who could deliver-
12. 1:02:56 – 1:07:52

    Fame, spending, nostalgia tech, and the ethics of modern supply chains

    1. ASAndrew Schulz1:02:56

       Like, I wanna create and not have a fucking care in the world, you know? I, I don't know. You said something to me r- th- ye- yesterday that was like, "You don't wanna be any more famous."

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:03:06

       (laughs)

    3. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:07

       And it was like (laughs) , like, it's a wild thing to say, but I get it 'cause it's like the more that comes with it, maybe the more restriction you feel.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:03:19

       Well, you're more, you're s- more susceptible to criticism. You're more susceptible to people being upset with you. You're more susceptible to people thinking that it's not fair, 'cause it's not fair.

    5. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:32

       Mm-hmm.

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:03:32

       There's no fair. That's what's weird about life.

    7. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:34

       Mm-hmm.

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:03:35

       It's one of the weirdest things. Like, it doesn't necessarily make sense what becomes successful and what's not and who's making money and who's not. It's not about how much effort you're putting in.

    9. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:45

       Mm-hmm.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:03:46

        It's not about that.

    11. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:47

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:03:47

        It's, like, it's a weird game we're all playing.

    13. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:50

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:03:50

        You know? And the more successful you get, and they're like, "Would you wanna be the richest guy in the world?" Like, what the fuck-

    15. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:56

        No.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:03:56

        ... is that?

    17. ASAndrew Schulz1:03:57

        Mm-mm.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:03:57

        Is he living any better than number 39? (laughs) They leave 39 alone. (laughs) 39, 39 is probably worth five billion. That dude's chilling.

    19. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:07

        What are they saying about th-

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:04:08

        And they don't say jack shit about that guy.

    21. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:10

        No.

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:04:10

        That guy's eating filet mignon-

    23. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:11

        He's totally-

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:04:11

        ... and drinking Dom Pérignon.

    25. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:13

        Same jets.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:04:14

        Yeah.

    27. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:14

        Same hotels.

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:04:15

        And having a great ass time.

    29. ASAndrew Schulz1:04:16

        Great time. Same Instagram models.

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:04:18

        Exactly the same shit.

Episode duration: 2:51:45