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Joe Rogan Experience #1997 - Cameron Hanes

Cameron Hanes is a master bowhunter, outdoorsman, elite athlete, author, and host of the podcast “Keep Hammering with Cameron Hanes.” www.cameronhanes.com

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Jun 26, 20243h 14mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Joe Rogan and Cameron Hanes Explore Hunting, Grit, Politics, Misinformation Tsunami

  1. Joe Rogan and Cameron Hanes spend a long, free‑wheeling conversation bouncing between bowhunting stories, predator behavior, performance lifestyles, nutrition, combat sports, and media/politics. They launch and taste their new Kill Cliff ‘Elk Blood’ CBD drink, talk ultra‑running, footwear, and the mental side of pushing physical limits.
  2. A substantial section focuses on hunting ethics and predator management (bears, wolves, lions), how media and Disneyfied narratives distort public perception of wildlife, and how that intersects with hunting’s public image. They also dive into UFC matchups, weight cutting, fighter durability, and specific bouts and fighters.
  3. Later, the discussion shifts into cultural and political territory: COVID policy, vaccine mandates and passports, media manipulation, Big Pharma incentives, censorship, Tucker Carlson, RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard, and whether platforms like Rogan’s have a responsibility in politics.
  4. Throughout, Rogan repeatedly encourages Hanes’ evolution from full‑time city employee to full‑time creator, stressing the value of inspiration over jealousy and the importance of using success to elevate others and support freedoms like hunting.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Modern wildlife narratives are largely divorced from brutal ecological reality.

Rogan and Hanes walk through data on bears and wolves killing huge numbers of calves, cannibalism among predators, and surplus killing, arguing that Disney and zoo imagery make the public oppose hunting without understanding real predator impacts or ecosystem management.

Hunting content online can both inspire participation and trigger backlash.

They acknowledge criticism that social media ‘commercializes’ and overcrowds hunting spots, but counter that broader participation creates political support to keep hunting legal and that showcasing hard, ethical hunting can motivate people to work harder rather than just chase trophies.

Ultra-endurance and effective gear are built on iteration, not heroics.

Hanes talks about running ~100 miles a week, shoe design with Speedland (cushioning, BoA dials, lug patterns), and how the right footwear and methodical preparation reduce injury despite high mileage; Rogan similarly rethinks his own warmups after tweaking his back.

Weight cutting and division gaps in MMA remain structurally problematic.

Using fighters like Khamzat Chimaev, Colby Covington, and Alex Pereira as examples, they argue the 170–185 lb gap is too large, incentivizing extreme cuts and mismatches in frame size, and suggest more weight classes or fighting closer to walk‑around weight to protect athletes.

COVID policy exposed how easily fear and centralized narratives can override debate.

They criticize one‑sided messaging (“no one is safe”), suppression of dissenting scientists, lack of deep investigation into vaccine side effects, and the push for global digital health certificates, warning that emergency powers and ‘compliance’ tech can outlast crises.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We have this Disney version of animals in our head. Out in the wild, bears and wolves are just killing machines.

Joe Rogan

I used to run the wilderness and hate seeing a boot track. But those new hunters are the ones who’ll vote to keep hunting legal.

Cameron Hanes

If you’re mad at someone like you, and all you see is negative, you’re not being honest. That’s unmet needs talking.

Joe Rogan

If I believed in myself as much as you believe in me, I would’ve quit my job a long time ago.

Cameron Hanes

You can’t give people the power to force you to take medicine and then punish you if you don’t. Once they have that, they don’t give it back.

Joe Rogan

Launch of the Kill Cliff ‘Elk Blood’ CBD drink and performance nutritionBowhunting, predator-prey dynamics, and public perceptions of bears and wolvesPhysical hardship, ultra-running, footwear design, and injury managementUFC and combat sports: weight cutting, key fighters, and stylistic matchupsMedia narratives, COVID policies, vaccine passports, and pharmaceutical incentivesCensorship, Tucker Carlson, RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, and political gatekeepingJealousy vs. inspiration, internet hate, and using platforms to help others

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