Joe Rogan Experience #1997 - Cameron Hanes

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hello, Cameron Hanes. Oh, God. I'm- I'm nervous. Dude, this is the launch day. Gah, shut the fuck up. I'm nervous. Drink day. How can you be nervous? You run thousands of miles-

   4. NANarrator0:21

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      ... and you're a psycho. Um, this is the collaboration that we did, uh, with Kill Cliff. It's out today. It's, uh, a spicy cherry. What's it called? It's called Elk Blood. Elk Blood. (laughs) (can pops) The other one's- How sick is that? Cheers, sir. Thank you. You too. How sick- Mm. ... is that Elk Blood? Oh, it's good too. We went over like, man, how many iterations did we go over? About 20. There's... Yeah, there was a shitload. We kept tweaking it and, you know, it's just like- it's kinda the same thing that we did with the Flaming Joe. You gotta get it right. Takes a long time, but those guys, whatever they're doing, that f- whatever fucking alchemy they're doing- Yeah. ... to make this stuff so delicious. Yeah, this is good. This is really good. And I just- Yeah. ... love that it's... Well, first it says, "Cam Hanes and Joe Rogan Elk Blood." (laughs) And it's- How sick is that? ... CBD, so it's got- Yeah. ... 25 milligrams of CBD, and we're gonna do an Ignite version as well that has- No sugar? ... yeah, no sugar. It's got caffeine. How much caffeine does it have?

   6. NANarrator1:20

      125.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:20

      125. Yeah. That ain't shit, bro. We've been drinking those- It's like a cup of coffee. ... Black Rifle coffees. (laughs) Those Black Rifle coffees will ruin you. They're so good. Have you had them? They're good. You want one of them? They're... I love them. We'll bust them out too. Lot of sugar. Ooh, there's so much sugar. Yeah, that's like- That's cheating. I- I... I know. I was drinking that and I was like, "Holy shit, this thing is so good." (laughs) And then I was like, "What- what is going on here?" Then I look and I'm like, "Oh, that's why." Is... How many milligrams does it have of sugar?

   8. NANarrator1:46

      I don't know.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:46

      Go- go gl-... Well, you just go grab a few for us. Infinity. I loved them. I loved them. I'm gonna drink one right now. I'm gonna be- They- they-

   10. NANarrator1:51

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       ... a good boy. They are so good. I mean, if you're not hung up on sugar like I am... I'm hung up on it too. Yeah. I... You should be. You really should be. But it's- it's a j-... it's a wonderful treat occasionally. It is. Yeah, if you reward yourself. Yeah. Yeah. So if you... Say, if you run a 100 miler- Right. (laughs) ... I'm like, "I can have it. I can have a good Black Rifle coffee, uh, ready to drink with some sugar." Well, you know Floyd Mayweather drinks Coca-Cola or Pepsi, I forget which one, but he drinks it like... Uh, he just drinks soda essentially right after he works out sometimes. And, uh, I talked to a nutritionist and he said, "Actually, like post-rigorous exercise like that-" Mm-hmm. "... it's actually a pretty effective way of dumping glucose back into your body." Sounds gross. Yeah. You dr-... Y- y- you know, you work out, you're the best boxer of all time, (laughs) you know, and you're fucking... Thank you. These are the... not the 300s though.

   12. NANarrator2:39

       You just... I thought that's what you want, one of these? Yes. For those... Who wants the other camera? This is the real bad boy. I- I better have one too. But, yeah, no. Yeah, these are... But these are fucking awesome too, man. These have too much sugar as well. (laughs) No, I know because- They definitely all have too much sugar. Dan the Fitness Man came and trained with me one time, you know, Elk Shape? Yeah. Dan Satan? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he gave- I love his podcast. Oh. He's got great YouTube videos too. He is good. I mean, he's just like- Seems like a great guy. ... he's a legit... He's just a elk hunter. Yeah. You know what I mean? And just a good guy who works his ass off. Yeah, seems like it. Doesn't talk shit about me. Seems like a real good guy. That makes me like him. That's a nice thing. (laughs) But- A lot of people talk shit about you, Cam Hanes. I know. But he gave me one of these and that's where I was like, "Wait a second. I got a little..." Why is this so good? (laughs) It's too good. (laughs) It's too good. But- What is the milligrams of sugar? I don't know. You can read this. I can't read this with a light this dim. Where, where is it? Um... Does it say 16? 18. Total sugars, 18 grams. 18, yeah. That's like- That's a lot. That's like- That's a lot. That's actually not too bad. Well, it's not compared to apple juice. I thought it was more. Do you know how much fucking apple juice has in it? Total sugars- My daughter- Yeah, this is- ... pointed this out to me. This has tw-... this says 28. What do you da-... What's the matter? You guys have bad eyes.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:48

       It doesn't say 18? This- this is... That says 28. It says 18, right?

   14. NANarrator3:51

       He's putting on his light though just to make sure.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:52

       (laughs) Oh, he has good eyes.

   16. NANarrator3:54

       Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, this says 18. He-... No, he has crazy vision, dude. Yeah. He can see weird shit. Like, I dropped my phone once when we were at Tejon Ranch. I dropped it on the ground and he saw it cracked. I go, "Where?" (laughs) And he's like, "In the middle." I'm like, "No way. Really?" And I'm like fucking doing this... He's like saw it from... He... I was holding it over here and he saw it. Yeah, but you're three months older than me. Yeah, I am older. So in three months- But my- my eyes are not as good. ... in three months, I'll- I'll be where you are. No, no, no, no. You have weird vision. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:21

       You really do. Hmm. Like your vision is extraordinary, and I always wonder, I wonder if that's from so much time in the mountains. Because one of the things they say that's fucking with people's eyes is we're constantly looking at short distances, and it's sort of distorting- Mm-hmm. ... our eyes because of that. And, uh, that's why Andrew Huberman recommends looking at great distances for like a good period of the day. Like it's- it's actually a good thing to do for your eyes. Hmm. Well, you know, what I- what I've a- always done still, but I used to... I've talked about it a few times, but I will run at night and I never wear a light. Hmm. Like I'll run on Pisgah, the mountain I run, and never have a headlight. Bro, are you trying to get eaten? What are you doing? No... Well, I'm not worried about that, but- Don't people get eaten up there? ... in my head, no. But in my- Come on. And- and- Didn't someone- Didn't someone- In Pisgah? ... in Oregon recently get eaten? I don't think so. Not that I know of. Was it... There was- there was two people last year that got- got got in the Pacific Northwest. In Elbur-... In Alberta, uh, a woman was killed by a black bear last year. Yeah. I heard about that one. But wasn't there a couple of people that were killed by mountain lions last year?

   18. NANarrator5:23

       I gotta... 2018, hiker, broken neck puncture wounds by cougar.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:27

       (laughs) Broken neck from a cougar. You imagine that motherfucker grabbing your neck? Speaking of my neck, look at this. What's going on? Look at this bling. Look at the bling. (laughs) You get to see each bling. I wore this bling. I've only had this on... This is the second time. Oh my God. Are you hanging out with rappers? (laughs) I know. What's going on? I'm like, "I'm celebrating my JRE, uh, uh- (laughs) ... appearance. But, uh... So that was- that was the whole reason why I wore it, just to do that right there. That's adorable. Scooby D. Jeweler-

   20. NANarrator5:53

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:53

       ... made that for me and he hand-delivered it. That's amazing. Yeah. That's amazing. Um... Well, that's when you can wear bling, when someone gives it to you. What I was gonna say was- It's cool. ... so I-... If you went out and bought that for yourself, it's a little questionable. (laughs) ... right? Unless you're, like, uh, a Machine Gun Kelly-type person.

   22. CHCameron Hanes6:08

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:08

       A very flamboyant-

   24. CHCameron Hanes6:09

       But I haven't.

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:09

       ... like a rapper or some rock star.

   26. CHCameron Hanes6:12

       You sh- you might get one and rock it hard.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:14

       (sighs) I can't.

   28. CHCameron Hanes6:14

       No, my vision, my vision-

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:15

       I wear old man shoes. People make fun of my shoes.

   30. CHCameron Hanes6:18

       And every so often, you break out your-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. CHCameron Hanes15:00

      wild, and you see the, like... Where I was just, w- bear hunting last week in Alberta, these bear come in. And it was, it was funny because the sows would come in, and they would just be growling, fighting, doing the alarm call, getting all puffed up. A- and I'm like, "They live with, with each other every single day all year. W- why are you so pissed off?" I mean, it's like, why would you be so mad at somebody you live with every day, right?

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:27

      Yeah.

   3. CHCameron Hanes15:27

      But they're just, they are just so competitive. And then the males come in, and it's breeding season, and then the boar I killed came in. And it was, it was pretty fascinating, because you wouldn't even see him, and the bear would all- be looking up, the other bear, the smaller bear, the smaller boars or the sows. They'd be looking towards where he's coming, and then he'd show up. And so, it was, it was pretty cool, because I, I remember back the day before, I saw a sow, and she was, like, walking and, like, kind of doing like this, like really hard steps. And I'm like, "Are they f- picking up vibration from the walking?" And so she's trying to sound bigger, like this.

   4. JRJoe Rogan16:09

      Mm.

   5. CHCameron Hanes16:09

      Because then I, 'cause I put it together when the boar I killed, giant boar, he was coming... Before they could see him, they were looking and getting startled running up trees. And I'm like, "Are they feeling that vibration of a heavy anim- a heavier animal coming?"

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:25

      Wow.

   7. CHCameron Hanes16:25

      A bigger boar.

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:26

      They have that much sensitivity on the ground.

   9. CHCameron Hanes16:27

      I think.

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       I bet it makes sense.

   11. CHCameron Hanes16:28

       Because I saw the smaller sow, like, trying to stomp.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:32

       Mm.

   13. CHCameron Hanes16:32

       And I'm like, it, it just makes sense that that was going on, because they would knew that, they knew that the bear I killed was coming long before they could see him.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:41

       Mm. So, a bear the size of the bear you killed is like a tyrant.

   15. CHCameron Hanes16:46

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:46

       Right? He kills all the babies.

   17. CHCameron Hanes16:48

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:48

       He kills whatever he can get ahold of. He, he kills younger bears. They cannibalize.

   19. CHCameron Hanes16:54

       Right. They-

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:54

       That's what's-

   21. CHCameron Hanes16:55

       ... inf- inficide.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:56

       Yeah, there's so much of that, that they... Well, and cannibalize. Like if-

   23. CHCameron Hanes17:00

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:00

       ... if a bear gets shot by a hunter, and you get to it, it, there's a possibility that other bears are eating it already.

   25. CHCameron Hanes17:07

       Right. Yeah, that happens.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:08

       Like real good possibility.

   27. CHCameron Hanes17:09

       That happens often.

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:10

       That happens often.

   29. CHCameron Hanes17:11

       If you have to leave it overnight-

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:12

       Yes.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   You can't get that…

   1. NANarrator30:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      You can't get that close.

   3. CHCameron Hanes30:01

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      'Cause you get that close, you've fucked up.

   5. CHCameron Hanes30:03

      Right. So-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      You, uh, you should be backing up.

   7. CHCameron Hanes30:05

      So, I guess-

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      That's what you should be doing.

   9. CHCameron Hanes30:06

      I was right, but this is gonna be tough to find out.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:08

       I ran over a rattlesnake once.

   11. CHCameron Hanes30:10

       Mm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:10

       And I didn't know it was a rattlesnake until I was mid, mid-leap over it.It was in the middle of the road.

   13. CHCameron Hanes30:17

       Oh.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       My dogs ran over it, too.

   15. CHCameron Hanes30:18

       Running, yeah. Oh, God.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:19

       We were running in the ... You know my old house?

   17. CHCameron Hanes30:21

       Yes.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       The, the canyon?

   19. CHCameron Hanes30:21

       Yeah, that trail. Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       So we're running down that trail, and we run over this thing that looks like, like, uh, you know, like a branch in the road.

   21. CHCameron Hanes30:30

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       Like, a kind of thick branch-

   23. CHCameron Hanes30:31

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       ... in the road. And as I'm over it, I realize it's a fucking huge rattlesnake.

   25. CHCameron Hanes30:36

       Oh, man.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       And I have two pit bulls with me. And they've been bit a bunch of times.

   27. CHCameron Hanes30:41

       Really?

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       Oh, they're-

   29. CHCameron Hanes30:41

       By rattlesnakes?

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       They don't give a fuck.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Every kid wants to…

   1. NANarrator45:00

      guitar, used to play every night. And now, he's in a rock and roll outfit and everything's all right. Don't cha know?

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      Every kid wants to be this guy.

   3. NANarrator45:16

      (softly singing) Johnny told his mama, "Hey Mama, I'm going away."

   4. CHCameron Hanes45:20

      That was... Love that song too.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:21

      Fuck yeah.

   6. NANarrator45:22

      Going where the big time is where.

   7. CHCameron Hanes45:22

      But we were the same age.

   8. NANarrator45:23

      I'm going to be a big star.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:25

      Yeah, but I'm three months older than you. Trust me.

   10. NANarrator45:27

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:27

       I know things. (laughs)

   12. NANarrator45:29

       With a teardrop in her eye. Johnny said, "Don't cry, Mama. Just smile and wave goodbye." Don't cha know?

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:38

       I mean, all of it, it's just like...

   14. NANarrator45:43

       Don't cha know that you are a shooting star? Don't cha know? Don't cha know? Don't cha know that you are a shooting star? And all the world will love you just as long. As long as you are.

   15. CHCameron Hanes46:08

       Yeah, but it... Doesn't it take a turn?

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       It ends bad, yeah.

   17. NANarrator46:10

       Yes.

   18. CHCameron Hanes46:10

       Takes a turn.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:11

       This is the part I like. (laughs)

   20. NANarrator46:14

       (laughs)

   21. CHCameron Hanes46:14

       (laughs) No, 'cause he proved everybody wrong. He got to number one.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:17

       But he didn't. He didn't prove anybody wrong. That's the problem with the story.

   23. CHCameron Hanes46:19

       But he got to number one.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:21

       But n- he didn't have to prove anybody wrong, 'cause he did... He was a kid.

   25. CHCameron Hanes46:24

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:24

       He was just a wizard.

   27. CHCameron Hanes46:25

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:25

       Johnny's just a wizard who just got instant pussy and hot rods.

   29. CHCameron Hanes46:29

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:29

       The whole story makes no sense.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:10:45

   Probably. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      agony while he's doing something like that-

   2. CHCameron Hanes1:00:01

      Probably.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      ... you know?

   4. CHCameron Hanes1:00:02

      What's your prediction on Leon-Kolbe?

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:05

      That's a great fight. That's a great fight. Leon is so goddamn dangerous on the feet-

   6. CHCameron Hanes1:00:10

      Do you want me to tell you what's gonna happen?

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      Tell me.

   8. CHCameron Hanes1:00:11

      Kolbe.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      Yeah, well, you're his friend.

   10. CHCameron Hanes1:00:13

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

       Listen, Leon's so dangerous.

   12. CHCameron Hanes1:00:16

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

       And th- the fact that Kamaru couldn't take him down in the last fight, that was a big deal.

   14. CHCameron Hanes1:00:20

       Yeah, but, you, okay, so how about this? So Kamaru gets KO'd.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

       Mm-hmm.

   16. CHCameron Hanes1:00:25

       That obviously gives Leon confidence, but-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       For sure.

   18. CHCameron Hanes1:00:29

       ... also, ev- no matter who wants to admit it, that has to affect the confidence of Kamaru, 'cause he's been-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       He's a human being.

   20. CHCameron Hanes1:00:35

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       He's a human being.

   22. CHCameron Hanes1:00:36

       Right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       Yeah.

   24. CHCameron Hanes1:00:36

       So it's like, that is such a crazy tra- I mean, that one moment, the fight was pretty much over. That one shot changed the trajectory of everything.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

       Yup.

   26. CHCameron Hanes1:00:46

       And-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

       And it changed the way Kamaru fought in the second fight.

   28. CHCameron Hanes1:00:50

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       He was a little bit more cautious.

   30. CHCameron Hanes1:00:51

       And Leon was at home. He had more confidence.

Episode duration: 3:14:35