Joe Rogan Experience #1997 - Cameron Hanes

1. 0:00 – 4:21

   Launching “Elk Blood” (Kill Cliff collab), caffeine, and sugar talk

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hello, Cameron Hanes. Oh, God. I'm- I'm nervous. Dude, this is the launch day. Gah, shut the fuck up. I'm nervous. Drink day. How can you be nervous? You run thousands of miles-

   4. NANarrator0:21

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      ... and you're a psycho. Um, this is the collaboration that we did, uh, with Kill Cliff. It's out today. It's, uh, a spicy cherry. What's it called? It's called Elk Blood. Elk Blood. (laughs) (can pops) The other one's- How sick is that? Cheers, sir. Thank you. You too. How sick- Mm. ... is that Elk Blood? Oh, it's good too. We went over like, man, how many iterations did we go over? About 20. There's... Yeah, there was a shitload. We kept tweaking it and, you know, it's just like- it's kinda the same thing that we did with the Flaming Joe. You gotta get it right. Takes a long time, but those guys, whatever they're doing, that f- whatever fucking alchemy they're doing- Yeah. ... to make this stuff so delicious. Yeah, this is good. This is really good. And I just- Yeah. ... love that it's... Well, first it says, "Cam Hanes and Joe Rogan Elk Blood." (laughs) And it's- How sick is that? ... CBD, so it's got- Yeah. ... 25 milligrams of CBD, and we're gonna do an Ignite version as well that has- No sugar? ... yeah, no sugar. It's got caffeine. How much caffeine does it have?

   6. NANarrator1:20

      125.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:20

      125. Yeah. That ain't shit, bro. We've been drinking those- It's like a cup of coffee. ... Black Rifle coffees. (laughs) Those Black Rifle coffees will ruin you. They're so good. Have you had them? They're good. You want one of them? They're... I love them. We'll bust them out too. Lot of sugar. Ooh, there's so much sugar. Yeah, that's like- That's cheating. I- I... I know. I was drinking that and I was like, "Holy shit, this thing is so good." (laughs) And then I was like, "What- what is going on here?" Then I look and I'm like, "Oh, that's why." Is... How many milligrams does it have of sugar?

   8. NANarrator1:46

      I don't know.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:46

      Go- go gl-... Well, you just go grab a few for us. Infinity. I loved them. I loved them. I'm gonna drink one right now. I'm gonna be- They- they-

   10. NANarrator1:51

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       ... a good boy. They are so good. I mean, if you're not hung up on sugar like I am... I'm hung up on it too. Yeah. I... You should be. You really should be. But it's- it's a j-... it's a wonderful treat occasionally. It is. Yeah, if you reward yourself. Yeah. Yeah. So if you... Say, if you run a 100 miler- Right. (laughs) ... I'm like, "I can have it. I can have a good Black Rifle coffee, uh, ready to drink with some sugar." Well, you know Floyd Mayweather drinks Coca-Cola or Pepsi, I forget which one, but he drinks it like... Uh, he just drinks soda essentially right after he works out sometimes. And, uh, I talked to a nutritionist and he said, "Actually, like post-rigorous exercise like that-" Mm-hmm. "... it's actually a pretty effective way of dumping glucose back into your body." Sounds gross. Yeah. You dr-... Y- y- you know, you work out, you're the best boxer of all time, (laughs) you know, and you're fucking... Thank you. These are the... not the 300s though.

   12. NANarrator2:39

       You just... I thought that's what you want, one of these? Yes. For those... Who wants the other camera? This is the real bad boy. I- I better have one too. But, yeah, no. Yeah, these are... But these are fucking awesome too, man. These have too much sugar as well. (laughs) No, I know because- They definitely all have too much sugar. Dan the Fitness Man came and trained with me one time, you know, Elk Shape? Yeah. Dan Satan? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he gave- I love his podcast. Oh. He's got great YouTube videos too. He is good. I mean, he's just like- Seems like a great guy. ... he's a legit... He's just a elk hunter. Yeah. You know what I mean? And just a good guy who works his ass off. Yeah, seems like it. Doesn't talk shit about me. Seems like a real good guy. That makes me like him. That's a nice thing. (laughs) But- A lot of people talk shit about you, Cam Hanes. I know. But he gave me one of these and that's where I was like, "Wait a second. I got a little..." Why is this so good? (laughs) It's too good. (laughs) It's too good. But- What is the milligrams of sugar? I don't know. You can read this. I can't read this with a light this dim. Where, where is it? Um... Does it say 16? 18. Total sugars, 18 grams. 18, yeah. That's like- That's a lot. That's like- That's a lot. That's actually not too bad. Well, it's not compared to apple juice. I thought it was more. Do you know how much fucking apple juice has in it? Total sugars- My daughter- Yeah, this is- ... pointed this out to me. This has tw-... this says 28. What do you da-... What's the matter? You guys have bad eyes.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:48

       It doesn't say 18? This- this is... That says 28. It says 18, right?

   14. NANarrator3:51

       He's putting on his light though just to make sure.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:52

       (laughs) Oh, he has good eyes.

   16. NANarrator3:54

       Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, this says 18. He-... No, he has crazy vision, dude. Yeah. He can see weird shit. Like, I dropped my phone once when we were at Tejon Ranch. I dropped it on the ground and he saw it cracked. I go, "Where?" (laughs) And he's like, "In the middle." I'm like, "No way. Really?" And I'm like fucking doing this... He's like saw it from... He... I was holding it over here and he saw it. Yeah, but you're three months older than me. Yeah, I am older. So in three months- But my- my eyes are not as good. ... in three months, I'll- I'll be where you are. No, no, no, no. You have weird vision. (laughs)

2. 4:21 – 6:28

   Cameron’s unusually sharp vision and running at night without a light

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:21

      You really do. Hmm. Like your vision is extraordinary, and I always wonder, I wonder if that's from so much time in the mountains. Because one of the things they say that's fucking with people's eyes is we're constantly looking at short distances, and it's sort of distorting- Mm-hmm. ... our eyes because of that. And, uh, that's why Andrew Huberman recommends looking at great distances for like a good period of the day. Like it's- it's actually a good thing to do for your eyes. Hmm. Well, you know, what I- what I've a- always done still, but I used to... I've talked about it a few times, but I will run at night and I never wear a light. Hmm. Like I'll run on Pisgah, the mountain I run, and never have a headlight. Bro, are you trying to get eaten? What are you doing? No... Well, I'm not worried about that, but- Don't people get eaten up there? ... in my head, no. But in my- Come on. And- and- Didn't someone- Didn't someone- In Pisgah? ... in Oregon recently get eaten? I don't think so. Not that I know of. Was it... There was- there was two people last year that got- got got in the Pacific Northwest. In Elbur-... In Alberta, uh, a woman was killed by a black bear last year. Yeah. I heard about that one. But wasn't there a couple of people that were killed by mountain lions last year?

   2. NANarrator5:23

      I gotta... 2018, hiker, broken neck puncture wounds by cougar.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:27

      (laughs) Broken neck from a cougar. You imagine that motherfucker grabbing your neck? Speaking of my neck, look at this. What's going on? Look at this bling. Look at the bling. (laughs) You get to see each bling. I wore this bling. I've only had this on... This is the second time. Oh my God. Are you hanging out with rappers? (laughs) I know. What's going on? I'm like, "I'm celebrating my JRE, uh, uh- (laughs) ... appearance. But, uh... So that was- that was the whole reason why I wore it, just to do that right there. That's adorable. Scooby D. Jeweler-

   4. NANarrator5:53

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:53

      ... made that for me and he hand-delivered it. That's amazing. Yeah. That's amazing. Um... Well, that's when you can wear bling, when someone gives it to you. What I was gonna say was- It's cool. ... so I-... If you went out and bought that for yourself, it's a little questionable. (laughs) ... right? Unless you're, like, uh, a Machine Gun Kelly-type person.

   6. CHCameron Hanes6:08

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:08

      A very flamboyant-

   8. CHCameron Hanes6:09

      But I haven't.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:09

      ... like a rapper or some rock star.

   10. CHCameron Hanes6:12

       You sh- you might get one and rock it hard.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:14

       (sighs) I can't.

   12. CHCameron Hanes6:14

       No, my vision, my vision-

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:15

       I wear old man shoes. People make fun of my shoes.

   14. CHCameron Hanes6:18

       And every so often, you break out your-

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:18

       I know. You should be wearing these fuckers. But, hey-

   16. CHCameron Hanes6:20

       I would, I would wear those.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:22

       But listen. So my vision is the bling with a, a bear skin jacket. Mm. I like it.

   18. CHCameron Hanes6:28

       That, that-

3. 6:28 – 11:54

   Bear hunting, bear pepperoni, and making wild game taste incredible

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:28

      A bear that you killed?

   2. CHCameron Hanes6:29

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:29

      Yeah.

   4. CHCameron Hanes6:30

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:30

      Yeah, everybody's got to shut the fuck up if you actually killed a bear.

   6. CHCameron Hanes6:33

      Yeah. Right?

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:34

      I ate him too. We ate his pepperoni.

   8. CHCameron Hanes6:35

      Right. Dude.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:36

      We're eating bear pepperoni. It's delicious. It's very, very good.

   10. CHCameron Hanes6:40

       So good. So good.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:41

       Shout-out to, uh, whoever processed that for you, whatever butcher did that for you.

   12. CHCameron Hanes6:45

       Mm. This is in Cottage Grove, Oregon and, uh, Gates.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:50

       Yeah.

   14. CHCameron Hanes6:50

       Gates Family Tradition Meats.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:52

       There's a bunch of those folks out there that are, uh ... It's like they're the unsung heroes of the wild game world.

   16. CHCameron Hanes6:58

       That is so good.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:59

       Yeah.

   18. CHCameron Hanes6:59

       And that's bear.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:00

       Oh, yeah.

   20. CHCameron Hanes7:00

       And people are like, "Oh, you can eat bear?"

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:02

       Summer sausage. I've had bear summer sausage. It was delicious.

   22. CHCameron Hanes7:05

       He-

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:05

       You know who's the best for, uh, talking about all this stuff? 'Cause, uh, you know, y- you know Jesse Griffiths? The guy who's the, the chef of, uh, Dai Due?

   24. CHCameron Hanes7:13

       Mm-mm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:14

       It's a restaurant here in Austin, and I actually heard him on Steve's podcast, uh, Rinella's, The Meat Eater podcast, before, um, I met him. So I'd heard him there, and then I had him on as a guest. Fucking super interesting guy.

   26. CHCameron Hanes7:27

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:28

       But he's the best at taking wild game and making it insanely delicious.

   28. CHCameron Hanes7:34

       Mm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:34

       He's just such ... 'Cause he's a, an excellent chef, and he loves food and he loves hunting.

   30. CHCameron Hanes7:39

       Yeah.
4. 11:54 – 23:13

   Predators in reality: bear attacks, “surplus killing,” and Disney narratives

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:54

      ... than what anybody experiences. And what ... You know, when people get rushed by bear ... I, I don't know if you've seen the video of these guys that are on a dirt bike.

   2. CHCameron Hanes12:00

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:01

      And, uh, this guy wipes out in front of a bear's den.

   4. CHCameron Hanes12:04

      Oh, yeah, den. I saw that.

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:07

      Oh.

   6. CHCameron Hanes12:07

      That thing comes boiling out of there.

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:09

      Oh.

   8. CHCameron Hanes12:10

      ... intense.

   9. JRJoe Rogan12:11

      Oh, my God. Pull that up, Jamie.

   10. CHCameron Hanes12:13

       (laughs)

   11. NANarrator12:14

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan12:14

       We have to see it 'cause it's so scary.

   13. CHCameron Hanes12:17

       Do we-

   14. JRJoe Rogan12:17

       They're, they're so scary.

   15. CHCameron Hanes12:19

       Do we have a Pull It Up Jamie shirt?

   16. JRJoe Rogan12:21

       I think Jamie has one.

   17. CHCameron Hanes12:22

       Oh, good.

   18. NANarrator12:23

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan12:23

       Jamie, you have Pull It Up Jamie shirts, right?

   20. NANarrator12:24

       I think so.

   21. JRJoe Rogan12:25

       Is it on Jamie r- is it on pullij- pullupjamie.com?

   22. NANarrator12:28

       No way.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:28

       Youngjamie.com?

   24. NANarrator12:29

       It should have been on that, but it isn't.

   25. JRJoe Rogan12:30

       It should be on pullitupjamie.com, these fucking scoundrels.

   26. NANarrator12:33

       There's a link on that website.

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:34

       Oh, thanks, Eric.

   28. NANarrator12:36

       (laughs)

   29. NANarrator12:37

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan12:37

       Um...
5. 23:13 – 25:36

   Animal instincts at home: cats, dogs, squirrels, and turtle chaos

   1. CHCameron Hanes23:13

      They play with 'em. You know what's weird? It's like, so Marshall.

   2. JRJoe Rogan23:17

      Yeah.

   3. CHCameron Hanes23:17

      You just... You see dogs, they see a squirrel outside, they're automatically in hunt mode. I don't know if... Is Marshall?

   4. JRJoe Rogan23:22

      Oh, dude. He killed two last week.

   5. CHCameron Hanes23:24

      Right.

   6. JRJoe Rogan23:24

      He's been on a rampage. So now it's fucked up because-

   7. CHCameron Hanes23:27

      And the nicest, fluffiest, sweetest dog.

   8. JRJoe Rogan23:30

      Oh. Oh.

   9. CHCameron Hanes23:30

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan23:30

       A bundle of love.

   11. CHCameron Hanes23:31

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan23:32

       He's all love, but he wants to fuck up squirrels and, uh, also turtles, so we have to keep... Protect the turtles from him now. So, now I have to wander around my fucking yard looking for turtles.

   13. CHCameron Hanes23:43

       He kills 'em?

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:43

       He kills 'em.

   15. CHCameron Hanes23:44

       Hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:45

       Yeah, he fucked one of his teeth up g- biting the shit out of this turtle shell. I'm like, "Bro." Like, "What are you doing?"

   17. CHCameron Hanes23:52

       So, does he-

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:52

       So good-... Where... Well, who's... Where's the real Marshall? Where's my buddy?

   19. CHCameron Hanes23:55

       (laughs) Does he try to get their... 'Cause they-

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:56

       He's trying to kill 'em.

   21. CHCameron Hanes23:57

       They go in.

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:57

       Yeah.

   23. CHCameron Hanes23:57

       Does he just crush a whole shell?

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:59

       He's trying to fucking chew at 'em while they're in there.

   25. CHCameron Hanes24:02

       Man, Marshall.

   26. JRJoe Rogan24:03

       Yeah, it's horrible.

   27. CHCameron Hanes24:04

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan24:04

       It was horrible. He's done it to a couple of 'em now.

   29. CHCameron Hanes24:07

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:07

       So now when we go outside, we have to look for turtles first.
6. 25:36 – 32:23

   Snapping turtles and venomous snakes: fear, beauty, and bad identification rules

   1. JRJoe Rogan25:36

      Let me tell you something. Whoa, look at the size of that thing.

   2. CHCameron Hanes25:38

      See, that would kill-

   3. JRJoe Rogan25:39

      That's a snapping turtle? It looks like Yoda.

   4. CHCameron Hanes25:41

      That would kill somebody.

   5. JRJoe Rogan25:42

      That would, that would bite your fucking hand right off your wrist.

   6. CHCameron Hanes25:45

      (laughs) Yeah, it would.

   7. JRJoe Rogan25:46

      Snap. Ah. Look at that monster.

   8. CHCameron Hanes25:49

      See, that w- that one's scary.

   9. JRJoe Rogan25:50

      Look at the scales on that thing.

   10. CHCameron Hanes25:52

       Oh, my God. That thing's coming for Marshall.

   11. JRJoe Rogan25:54

       That thing doesn't even look like a real thing. Nah, he'd, I don't think they hunt.

   12. CHCameron Hanes25:58

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan25:59

       But my dog's so dumb, he'd probably try to bite it.

   14. CHCameron Hanes26:01

       (laughs) .

   15. NANarrator26:03

       He's got an eye.

   16. CHCameron Hanes26:04

       Wow.

   17. JRJoe Rogan26:05

       Oh, my God, that's its eyeball.

   18. CHCameron Hanes26:06

       Look at his nose. His nose looks, like, weird, kind of weird too.

   19. JRJoe Rogan26:08

       Bro. That looks like something right out of Doom.

   20. NANarrator26:10

       There are p- pig-nosed turtles ............................

   21. CHCameron Hanes26:13

       Yeah.

   22. NANarrator26:13

       ... too.

   23. JRJoe Rogan26:13

       (sighs)

   24. CHCameron Hanes26:14

       I don't know, but that-

   25. JRJoe Rogan26:15

       What is the biggest snapping turtle?

   26. CHCameron Hanes26:18

       I, uh-

   27. JRJoe Rogan26:18

       Is there ... 'Cause I think there's a few different species. I think there's, isn't there one called an alligator snapping turtle?

   28. NANarrator26:24

       That's the one where I did x- that's the one where I found it.

   29. JRJoe Rogan26:25

       (gasps) Look at that thing, it's 70 pounds.

   30. CHCameron Hanes26:27

       (laughs)
7. 32:23 – 49:03

   Jelly Roll, powerful songwriting, and why music hits like shared experience

   1. CHCameron Hanes32:23

      I think ... Didn't ... See, here's, here's why I was nervous coming on, because that reminded me of Theo Von said something about, like, Suzanne Somers. That's got ... That got you guys-

   2. JRJoe Rogan32:31

      (laughs) What about Suzanne Somers?

   3. CHCameron Hanes32:32

      I think of, like, a Golden Retriever running, like, with flowing hair. Didn't ... Wasn't that-

   4. JRJoe Rogan32:37

      Oh, right, her hair was like that.

   5. CHCameron Hanes32:38

      Yeah, so then that, that got-

   6. JRJoe Rogan32:39

      He said something like that. Yeah.

   7. CHCameron Hanes32:39

      That got you guys onto Thigh Master. But anyway, so yeah, like Marshall, Suzanne Somers running towards you is what I envisioned.

   8. JRJoe Rogan32:45

      Yeah, but trying to eat you.

   9. CHCameron Hanes32:46

      Yeah. (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan32:47

       Out of your shell. Like, what the fuck?

   11. CHCameron Hanes32:48

       Well ... Oh, but the point was I'm pretty nervous because I'm like, "How can ... I can't follow Theo Von, who-"

   12. JRJoe Rogan32:55

       Well, there's been a couple people on since Theo, right?

   13. CHCameron Hanes32:57

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan32:57

       So you're all right. Don't worry.

   15. CHCameron Hanes32:59

       But ... And then before that-

   16. JRJoe Rogan33:00

       Go ahead.

   17. CHCameron Hanes33:01

       ... it was Jelly Roll, who-

   18. JRJoe Rogan33:02

       Yeah.

   19. CHCameron Hanes33:02

       Like, like, I feel like this podcast, your platform, is made for people like Jelly Roll because it's like-

   20. JRJoe Rogan33:09

       But you, too. It's made for everybody.

   21. CHCameron Hanes33:11

       No. But, like, he's, like-

   22. JRJoe Rogan33:12

       How ... I thought you fucking know that's why you're here.

   23. CHCameron Hanes33:14

       He's, like, this incredible talent-

   24. JRJoe Rogan33:16

       Yeah.

   25. CHCameron Hanes33:16

       ... that, like, everybody should know about-

   26. JRJoe Rogan33:18

       Right.

   27. CHCameron Hanes33:18

       ... but, but hasn't until lately.

   28. JRJoe Rogan33:20

       Right.

   29. CHCameron Hanes33:20

       And so to me, I'm like, "This is why you created this thing." You know, to, to have people that deserve ... Just have this immense ability and deserve to have a, a spotlight shone on them.

   30. JRJoe Rogan33:32

       Yeah, but that's not why I created it. I created it just to do it.
8. 49:03 – 53:41

   Pop culture detour: Madonna vs. Roseanne, beauty standards, and cosmetic dysmorphia

   1. CHCameron Hanes49:03

      So, but I mentioned Madonna's long song.

   2. JRJoe Rogan49:06

      Yeah.

   3. CHCameron Hanes49:06

      That reminded me of another thought.... did you, could you ever see a time when Madonna was so hot, like she was-

   4. JRJoe Rogan49:13

      Right.

   5. CHCameron Hanes49:14

      ... to where Roseanne Barr would be hotter than her? Like right now?

   6. NANarrator49:18

      (drum roll)

   7. CHCameron Hanes49:18

      Roseanne Barr is way hotter than Madonna.

   8. JRJoe Rogan49:22

      (laughs)

   9. CHCameron Hanes49:22

      I mean, if you'd have looked at back in the day, Madonna, sex symbol-

   10. JRJoe Rogan49:26

       Right.

   11. CHCameron Hanes49:26

       ... incredible, and Roseanne. And now-

   12. JRJoe Rogan49:30

       Right.

   13. CHCameron Hanes49:30

       Right?

   14. JRJoe Rogan49:31

       Well, I think-

   15. CHCameron Hanes49:32

       'Cause I thought ... Wasn't Roseanne at your club?

   16. JRJoe Rogan49:35

       Yeah, she looked wonderful.

   17. CHCameron Hanes49:36

       Isn't she ... She looks good.

   18. JRJoe Rogan49:37

       She looks lovely. She looks healthy, she's happy-

   19. CHCameron Hanes49:39

       She looks great.

   20. JRJoe Rogan49:39

       ... she's lost a bunch of weight. Yeah, she's doing standup.

   21. CHCameron Hanes49:41

       Yes.

   22. JRJoe Rogan49:42

       Loving it.

   23. CHCameron Hanes49:43

       Yeah, look at that. No ... Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan49:45

       Something's going on with Madonna. If that picture is accurate.

   25. CHCameron Hanes49:49

       No, that is.

   26. JRJoe Rogan49:49

       Like, what that is, is like the same thing that leads to anorexia, the same thing that leads to bodybuilders that get just-

   27. CHCameron Hanes49:55

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan49:55

       ... so massive they don't feel that big.

   29. CHCameron Hanes49:56

       Dysmorphia.

   30. JRJoe Rogan49:56

       Yeah, it's dysmorphia.
9. 53:41 – 1:05:46

   UFC deep dive: weight cutting, commissions, and fight breakdowns

   1. JRJoe Rogan53:41

      They really get down to about five pounds. What does Colby cut? He doesn't cut much.

   2. CHCameron Hanes53:44

      No. He's probably 85 down to-

   3. JRJoe Rogan53:47

      Yeah.

   4. CHCameron Hanes53:47

      ... 170.

   5. JRJoe Rogan53:47

      See, he's one of the best at that. I think 85 to 70 is really good.

   6. CHCameron Hanes53:52

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan53:52

      Because that's not that hard for an athlete like that with all that muscle.

   8. CHCameron Hanes53:56

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan53:56

      You could dry that out pretty easy. But one of them fucking Alex Pereira guys? When you're, you're talking about weighing in at 185 and then walking around at 230 or 220? Colby Covington claims he lost over one stone in just a day to be backup for UFC 286 opponent.

   10. CHCameron Hanes54:13

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan54:13

       But didn't even fight.

   12. CHCameron Hanes54:15

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan54:16

       So one stone is 13 pounds?

   14. NANarrator54:18

       Uh, 18 pounds.

   15. JRJoe Rogan54:20

       One stone is 18?

   16. NANarrator54:21

       I think that says.

   17. JRJoe Rogan54:22

       Oh. Like, over one stone, so- Oh, over one stone.

   18. NANarrator54:25

       Yeah, he lost 18 pounds.

   19. JRJoe Rogan54:26

       18 pounds. 18 pounds in a day.

   20. CHCameron Hanes54:27

       He's a company man.

   21. JRJoe Rogan54:29

       Yeah.

   22. CHCameron Hanes54:29

       He did that.

   23. JRJoe Rogan54:29

       Well, he's right there, you know?

   24. CHCameron Hanes54:31

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan54:31

       It's, uh, it's him, and you got Bilal Muhammad. You know, you've got a lot ... Khamzat, ah- uh ... At 170, he's the motherfucker, right?

   26. CHCameron Hanes54:43

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan54:43

       But it's like, can you be assured that he's going to make 170?

   28. CHCameron Hanes54:46

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan54:46

       Or, or here's another possibility. Did the Athletic Commission fuck him?

   30. CHCameron Hanes54:52

       Hmm.
10. 1:05:46 – 1:22:46

    Striking craft: leg kicks, training setups, and “levels” in elite fighting

    1. CHCameron Hanes1:05:46

       Yeah, not good. Yeah. And for Melvin, Melvin has been knocked out a lot.

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:05:52

       Oh, I-

    3. CHCameron Hanes1:05:53

       There's a lot of videos. Joe Schilling knocked him out. There's a, there's a crazy video of Robbie Lawler knocking him out in Strikeforce. The cra- the Robbie Lawler one's amazing 'cause Robbie is getting fucked up. In that fight, look at this.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:06:08

       Oh.

    5. NANarrator1:06:09

       He's out.

    6. CHCameron Hanes1:06:09

       Boom.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:06:09

       Out.

    8. CHCameron Hanes1:06:09

       Boom, he's out. And he-

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:06:10

       Ooh, stop that.

    10. CHCameron Hanes1:06:11

        ... gets him in the neck with... And then get someone... another one.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:06:15

        Yeah, so-

    12. CHCameron Hanes1:06:15

        Yoel Romero. But see... Pull up, uh, Robbie Lawler versus Melvin Manhoef. So this was when Melvin was in his prime. Everybody was terrified of him.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:06:24

        Oh, he used to be a monster.

    14. CHCameron Hanes1:06:26

        A monster.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:06:26

        He was one of the best kickboxers to ever fight in MMA, and one of the most explosive kickboxers of all time. I mean, he was so good-

    16. CHCameron Hanes1:06:33

        Hmm.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:06:34

        ... and so dangerous. And this is after he had already fought in Pride. This is after, you know, he had had some crazy fights overseas in Japan.

    18. NANarrator1:06:46

        Now, Robbie Lawler's body. Three minutes now gone into this round. Manhoef looking to-

    19. CHCameron Hanes1:06:47

        Oh, God.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:06:47

        See, he's, he's teeing off on Robbie.

    21. CHCameron Hanes1:06:49

        Mm-hmm. Those body shots must be terrible.

    22. NANarrator1:06:55

        ... going to tee off with power. Very impressed with Manhoef's patient heart.

    23. CHCameron Hanes1:06:57

        Ooh.

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:06:57

        Look at this. Look how hard he's getting kicked in his legs, man.

    25. CHCameron Hanes1:07:00

        I know.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:07:00

        I mean, he's just getting lit up.

    27. NANarrator1:07:02

        He's going to have to stick more...

    28. CHCameron Hanes1:07:03

        Yeah. Robbie's-

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:07:04

        So it looks terrible for him, right?

    30. CHCameron Hanes1:07:05

        It does, yeah.

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