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Joe Rogan Experience #2022 - Jeremy Gerber, Phil Gerber, & Josh Henning

Brothers Jeremy and Phil Gerber are co-owners of The Roadster Shop. Josh Henning is its Director of Operations and Business Development. Together, they are the hosts of the Oil & Whiskey podcast.  www.roadstershop.com www.youtube.com/@OilandWhiskey

Joe RoganhostJosh HenningguestJeremy GerberguestPhil GerberguestGuest (one of the Roadster Shop team)guest
Jun 27, 20242h 37mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:000:43

    Meet the builders: Roadster Shop crew and why Joe loves their work

    1. NA

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    2. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Okay, and we're up. What's up? Hey, f- let's, uh ... First of all, thanks for coming here. Thanks for everything.

    3. NA

      My pleasure, man. Absolutely.

    4. JR

      We're very excited. Um, just introduce yourself. Start with you, Josh.

    5. JH

      I'm Josh Henning from the Roadshow Shop.

    6. JR

      Phil Gerber.

    7. JG

      Jeremy Gerber.

    8. JR

      And, uh, you guys make fucking awesome cars-

    9. NA

      Well, thank you, dude.

    10. JR

      ... for a living.

    11. JG

      I, I appreciate that.

    12. JR

      What a great job. I mean, what a fucking great job.

    13. NA

      Dude, yeah it is.

    14. JR

      You guys get to work on some of the fucking coolest cars that have ever been made. It's, uh ... You guys have an incredible gig.

    15. JG

      Living the dream, man. That's it.

    16. NA

      Yep.

    17. JG

      That's what it's all about.

  2. 0:432:19

    Joe’s 1970 Barracuda becomes his new #1: history, feel, and why manuals matter

    1. JR

      So, I drove that 1970 Barracuda, and I got here, I said, "I don't want to say shit until we get on the air."

    2. JG

      Dude, I'm sweating. I've been sweating thinking about it.

    3. JR

      That thing, that thing is a masterpiece. It's my favorite. That's my favorite car now.

    4. NA

      Fuck yeah.

    5. JR

      That's ... That just went number one. It, it b- beat all of them.

    6. JG

      Hell yeah, dude.

    7. JR

      You know, like edges, you know? The Camaro's amazing. The, my Nova that I got from Steve Strope is fucking incredible. But this thing is fucking ... It's also, it's like I have so much history with this car, and I bought this car 20 years ago, and ...

    8. JH

      So exciting.

    9. JR

      By ... Reggie Bush bought it, and then he got rid of it after a while. He dumped a bunch of money into it too, he was telling me. And then, um, when, uh, my friend Joel told me he got it back, he, he called me and he said, uh, "I have your Barracuda." I'm like, "No!" And this is like, you know, I was already thinking that I wanted to get another one. Like I, I wanted to get a ... I only like hot rods that are manuals. That's all I like. I do not like automatic hot rods. It just feels like something's wrong. When, when you're driving like a classic muscle car, it's like, "Th- this is ... Why am I not shifting?" You know? And just what you guys did to that thing is just ... You guys are artists.

    10. JG

      Well, appreciate it, man.

    11. JR

      I mean, it's really amazing.

    12. JG

      Dude, we were stoked, stoked to hear when you found that car, 'cause you could've built anything, you know?

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. JG

      So ... But that damn car was so rad, and to start with it-

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. JG

      ... revamp that sucker, and put our touch on it. Man, I had a, I had a blast doing it, dude, and I'm glad that you're digging it.

    17. JR

      I love it. I love it.

    18. JG

      I mean, that was the whole ... Everything on that, all the styling and stuff aside, it was ... The focus was making that fucker work really good so that you got something fun to drive, so.

  3. 2:193:50

    Engine swap debates and purist backlash: performance vs brand loyalty

    1. JR

      It drives so different than anything else. It's, uh, that, that high-revving, uh, naturally aspirated Mercury engine-

    2. JG

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      ... which is, uh, like very different.

    4. JG

      It's a wild motor, man.

    5. JR

      Yeah.

    6. JG

      The, like the Mopar dudes, not a big fan of it, right? Because it's-

    7. JR

      Right, 'cause it's not Mopar.

    8. JG

      ... it's Chevy, it's Chevy-based, but it's a fucking motor, you know? It's an internal combustion engine.

    9. JR

      It looks like a Hemi under the hood.

    10. JG

      Correct.

    11. JR

      People have to get over that shit.

    12. JG

      Yeah, yeah they do.

    13. JH

      Like, um, uh, there's a bunch of people that are taking V8s, like LS engines, and putting them in the back of Porsches.

    14. JG

      Yeah. Yeah.

    15. JR

      And people are like, "Man, I don't know." They're doing those like 964s, air-cooled engines.

    16. JG

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      But dude, do you know how fun that would be? It's probably lighter than the Porsche engine. It's got way more torque.

    18. JG

      Oh, yeah.

    19. JR

      Way more horsepower. Totally different sound.

    20. JH

      It's, I mean, it's upgrades. It doesn't have to fit. It's not like you've gotta stick with whatever came in at factory. You can make it better.

    21. JR

      You could really ... It's hot-rodding. They gotta let that shit go.

    22. JH

      Yeah, they do.

    23. JR

      They gotta let that shit go. The people who are the wor- worst about it is Ferrari people. Ferrari will sue you.

    24. JG

      I know, man. I've f- I've heard that. There's a-

    25. JR

      That is so crazy. If you buy a Ferrari and you paint it weird colors, they'll fucking sue you.

    26. JG

      Yeah. Yeah, you see there's a couple things floating around. You got that dude that just, uh ... Man, he swapped a, like a K- Honda motor, turbo Honda motor into a real 308. Every comment's like, "When's the cease and desist letter coming?"

    27. JR

      Yeah, I wonder if they can do that with classic ones.

    28. JG

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      'Cause I know that there's a bunch of people that have hot-rodded some old GTOs, and they really are incredible.

    30. JG

      They're cool, dude.

  4. 3:504:50

    80s/90s nostalgia, Testarossa talk, and the ‘Lambo truck with warrants’ riff

    1. JG

      I talk about it all the time. I'm, I'm itching to like Restomod a Testarossa.

    2. JR

      Ooh.

    3. JG

      It's gonna happen one of these days, but ...

    4. JR

      I don't know why, but I think-

    5. JH

      '80 and '90s coming back.

    6. JR

      I seen those car- ... Those cars never did it for me.

    7. JG

      Really?

    8. JH

      Really?

    9. JR

      They were like, it looks like junk.

    10. JG

      Oh, man.

    11. JR

      That side thing with the, like vents? Like get the fuck out of here.

    12. JH

      Dude, it's-

    13. JR

      What is that?

    14. JH

      (laughs)

    15. JG

      It's the generation. It's the generational gap, you know?

    16. JR

      No, it was like, that was Miami Vice. I was a kid. I remember Miami Vice. Everybody wanted a Testarossa.

    17. JH

      I wanted to do the, like that Lambo LP2000 or whatever, the Lambo truck, the vintage one.

    18. JG

      Oh yeah.

    19. JR

      Oh, the one Mike Tyson had.

    20. JH

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      Mike Tyson had one of those back in the day.

    22. JH

      Get those with mid-travel.

    23. JG

      You, you only want to do that because you picture that fucking, uh, Doberman sitting in the front seat of that.

    24. JH

      Yeah. (laughs)

    25. JG

      That's a perfect car for like Doberman, Rottweiler.

    26. JH

      I've got a li- yeah, I got a-

    27. JG

      Yeah, that's your style, for sure.

    28. JR

      Yeah, that's a guy with warrants.

    29. JH

      (laughs)

    30. JG

      (laughs) Yeah.

  5. 4:507:44

    How the ’Cuda drives: 8,400 RPM, exhaust maturity, and a 50/50-balanced muscle car

    1. JG

      So, dude, did you rip that 'cuda? You drove it here, right?

    2. JR

      Oh, yeah. I drove it here.

    3. JG

      So you got-

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. JG

      ... you got a few miles on it?

    6. JR

      Yeah. Oh my God. Dude, it's so different. That, that engine is a, it's just a ... The high-revving engine. I mean, what's the, uh, what's the red line on that thing?

    7. JG

      You could shift it at like 83, 8400 RPM.

    8. JR

      That's so crazy for a V8.

    9. JG

      Wow.

    10. JR

      It's so crazy, and it sounds so different. It's like, it sounds like, um, a combination of like the voodoo engine from the, uh, the Shelby GT350-

    11. JG

      Yep.

    12. JR

      ... and a m- like an exotic car. It's real weird.

    13. JG

      It's got a sweet sound. Like, the voodoo engines in all those Coyotes are cool, but like, me even being a car guy, if I'm on the highway and I'm just cruising like with my family and some asshole kid flies by you in one of those with an exhaust system on it, I'm like, "What the fuck is-"

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. JG

      "Jesus, man."

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. JG

      "Have a little respect."

    18. JR

      I don't think you need an exhaust system-

    19. JG

      They sound bad.

    20. JR

      ... on one of those.

    21. JH

      (laughs) Yeah.

    22. JR

      They sound good when they're straight from the factory.

    23. JH

      Yeah.

    24. JG

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      I like that sound. But dudes go crazy with their exhausts.

    26. JG

      Oh, yeah.

    27. JR

      It's like, isn't that annoying to you? Like ...

    28. JG

      Yeah, it, it's like a maturity thing, I think, you know?

    29. JR

      Yeah.

    30. JG

      It's ... You gotta ... You want the exhaust tone. Like that car too, we put that little bypass on it.

  6. 7:449:47

    Barracuda vs supercharged Camaro: ‘sports car’ balance vs ‘bar brawler’ torque

    1. NA

      Uh, you drove the, you drove the Camaro yesterday, you were talking about.

    2. JG

      Yeah.

    3. NA

      So it's interesting, back to back two days, jumping out of the Camaro because you know like the Camaro.

    4. JR

      The Camaro's way more sketchy. The Camaro is like, if you're taking a right turn, you give it a little juice, you're gonna kick out.

    5. NA

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      Like, it's so powerful at the low end. It's so whoom! It's got that whoom.

    7. NA

      Oh, yeah.

    8. JR

      It just wants to go. Like, you, you gotta be, like, very careful with the throttle in the Camaro.

    9. JG

      Yeah, you gotta respect the Camaro a lot more-

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. JG

      ... than this one. This-

    12. JR

      This, this one just lets you feel where the balance ... It just, like, you know where the limitations are. It just-

    13. NA

      Right.

    14. JR

      It f- it's, like, giving you more information it seems like.

    15. JG

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      The Camaro's just like a bar brawler. You know, the Camaro's-

    17. NA

      (laughs)

    18. JR

      ... like some crazy dude who comes into a bar and he's doing coke.

    19. NA

      (laughs)

    20. JR

      And he just wants to start smashing shit.

    21. JG

      Fucked up. (laughs) Yeah.

    22. JR

      You know, it's like, that's what it's like.

    23. JG

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      It's like, I mean, it handles gr- for one of those cars, for a '69, I mean, you don't get a '69 Camaro that handles better. It handles amazing. But it just ha- it's so rowdy. And it has-

    25. NA

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      What is that, like, 850 horsepower?

    27. JG

      Yeah, 850 horse. It's the supercharge, man.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. NA

      Yeah.

    30. JG

      The torque's like fucking-

  7. 9:4714:15

    Trucks, attention magnetism, and freak accidents: from C10 appeal to trees and trains

    1. JG

      And for me, I'm like, you know, you drive something like that to a, a ga- just to fill it up with gas, and you're like, dude, everybody's best friend. Everybody's got something to say.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. JG

      Those old pickup, '70s pickup trucks too, same fucking situation there.

    4. JR

      Oh, yeah. People who love those old pickup trucks, that's, like, a very specific breed of person.

    5. JG

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      Those C10s.

    7. JG

      It is.

    8. JR

      You know.

    9. JG

      It, you know, it's, it is and it isn't 'cause you get, it, like, transcends just the, like, C10 dudes 'cause chicks love those ... Dude, C10s.

    10. JR

      Really?

    11. JG

      Oh, yeah.

    12. JR

      Chicks?

    13. JG

      Like, square bod- square body Chevys.

    14. JR

      Really?

    15. JG

      Man, if you're that-

    16. JR

      Interesting.

    17. JG

      ... you're a single dude and you're trying to roll some, some broads, man.

    18. NA

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      Really?

    20. JG

      Get, get a fucking-

    21. JR

      Oh.

    22. JG

      ... square body-

    23. JR

      Old truck. There's guys out there right now taking notes and they're like, "Okay."

    24. JG

      They're like, "So you sure?"

    25. NA

      I don't know.

    26. JG

      "You sure about this?"

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. NA

      Solid sales pitch.

    29. JG

      Which, yeah. So the year range, what do we got? 73 to 79, that's what I would say.

    30. NA

      How we doing? Yeah, those, those Legend series or whatever.

  8. 14:1524:56

    Scooter chaos and the ‘getting older hurts’ reality check

    1. JG

      It's an adrenaline thing too, you know. We were out ripping those scooters, those little rental (laughs) fucking electric-

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. JG

      ... scooters and Sean was, a buddy of mine, he fucking throttles down on this thing. I'm like, "Dude, don't do that."

    4. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    5. JG

      Right in front of the train. It looked like something out of a movie.

    6. JR

      Oh, goddammit.

    7. JG

      Like if we had fireworks going off in the background-

    8. JR

      Oh, goddammit.

    9. JG

      ... it would've been-

    10. JR

      I forgot all about that. Yeah.

    11. JG

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      I had, I had a concussion. That's why I forgot about it. (laughs)

    13. JG

      (laughs) And you're trusting some fucking rental scooter. Right.

    14. JR

      Like what are the odds that that thing is not beat to shit?

    15. JG

      You're driving around Austin, yesterday-

    16. JR

      After we drove them.

    17. JG

      ... those things just, they leave them wherever, huh?

    18. JR

      Ever.

    19. JG

      Like-

    20. JR

      You have an app, you just find one, pick it up, start riding.

    21. JG

      Ah, you're in the middle of the road, like yesterday-

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. JG

      ... we were driving around, they're just fucking everywhere.

    24. JR

      It's a great way for people to get around though. If you, like, look, Austin is a great walking around city. There's a lot of places just like, like where my club is on 6th Street-

    25. JG

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      They shut the street down on the weekends and it's just for people walking around. It's amazing. It's fucking cool.

    27. JG

      A group of those-

    28. JR

      Just everybody just wandering around going to bars. It's, it's really prime- For a bachelorette party on about six or seven of those scooters.

    29. JG

      Oh yeah, dude. Just-

    30. JR

      Oh, they're always happening.

  9. 24:5628:15

    Modern speed vs analog joy: Tesla Plaid shock, but muscle cars win on experience

    1. JG

      But, dude, the- the horsepower and the performance is pretty mind-blowing on that stuff. Like, if you think, everybody raves about, like, the muscle car era.

    2. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JG

      But if you stop and think, like, dude, you could go into the dealership right now and buy 1000 horsepower car-

    4. JR

      Or drop.

    5. JG

      ... a car that runs nine second quarter miles.

    6. JR

      Jamie just got a brand new Tesla Plaid, and I don't know if you've driven one of those. But, look, I love muscle cars, but that car makes every car feel stupid.

    7. JG

      That's what I heard.

    8. JR

      Stupid. I mean, stupid. It goes zero to 60 in two seconds. It flies.

    9. JG

      It's nuts.

    10. JR

      It goes so fa- it goes so fast, it's like it's time traveling. It goes whoosh. Like, it moves into positions that no other car can do it. And somehow it does it silently, so you don't feel like a douchebag. Hmm. Like, you're like bah, bah!

    11. JG

      (laughs)

    12. JR

      And getting in front of something, you just go whoosh.

    13. JG

      And you're gone.

    14. JR

      How wild is it, Jamie?

    15. GT

      It's crazy. I mean, I- I barely drove it yesterday 'cause I was like, I took it in the back and was like, "Oh, my God, this is a little... Okay, hold on."

    16. JR

      And they-

    17. JG

      It's fast.

    18. JR

      I think it's 1100 horsepower.

    19. JG

      Holy shit.

    20. JR

      Is it controllable, or does it just like-

    21. GT

      100%.

    22. JG

      Go by itself? It's so electronically done.

    23. JR

      It- it, it's-

    24. JG

      It's dialed.

    25. JR

      It's so dialed in, there's never wheel spin. I mean, when you take off, there's no wheel spin. It's all completely electronically managed. The base of the thing is all batteries, so the weight is low.

    26. JG

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      So it's got an amazing center of gravity. 1020 horsepower (laughs) .

    28. JG

      Oh, back to your point.

    29. JR

      1.9 seconds zero to 60.

    30. JG

      See?

  10. 28:1549:49

    Analog connection obsession: raw Porsches, Chris Harris’ perfect sports car, and car media tangents

    1. JG

      Are you jamming out to any music in that, or do you just listen to the motor?

    2. JR

      I- I jammed out to music until I was halfway here, and I'm like, I didn't want to hear the music anymore.

    3. JG

      Yeah.

    4. JR

      I just wanted to hear the engine. You know, there's both things. Like, I have a Porsche, a 1993 RS America. It's the rawest car I have. It's not fast at all. It only has, like, 300 horsepower. It has no power steering. It has no air conditioning. It has no radio. It has no nothing. And it weighs like, you know, w- it's like, I don't know, 2000 something pounds.

    5. JG

      Fair.

    6. JR

      It weighs nothing. And it's so fun.

    7. JG

      I'll bet.

    8. JR

      It's so different than any other experience. And it's not the fastest cr- it's the slowest car I have, for sure. It's not that fast. But it's every s- every mile per hour, everything, you're fucking feeling in your ass and in your hands.

    9. JG

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      And it's this raspy air cooled... (imitating engine revving)

    11. GT

      (laughs)

    12. JG

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      You don't have to be going fast. It's just the feeling you're getting. You're on a ride. It requires all of you-

    14. JG

      All of you.

    15. JR

      ... to- to do it. It's like a motorcycle.

    16. GT

      Yeah, yeah, you're connected.

    17. JG

      All of you.

    18. GT

      You're making everything happen. You're the one controlling it. There's no computers. There's no traction control, that...

    19. JR

      You have to really-

    20. GT

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      ... steer that bitch too, because there's no power steering. So, like, when you're parallel parking, you gotta fucking work your-

    22. JG

      Like, you fucking muscle in that thing.

    23. JR

      You gotta work your forearms.

    24. GT

      (laughs)

    25. JR

      It's a lot. But the feeling, the feedback you get is unprecedented. It's just like... And they say it's even more so if you get to, like, these 1970 ones. Like, when they take, when they do... Like, uh, Chris Harris did that once. He took a nine... I think this was a 1970 or '71 911T. See if you can find that video. It- it's like Chris Harris, My Perfect Sports Car. And so he took this 911T and he brought it to this guy who makes race cars, and he had him fit it with a roll cage and, you know, ramp up the engine and tune the suspension. And there's a video of him driving around the British countryside in this green 1970s Porsche, and it's fucking amazing.

    26. JG

      Dude.

    27. JR

      It's amaze- it's the- it's what everybody loves about driving just in one video. This guy who's an automotive enthusiast, he can kind of get any car he wants. I mean, Chris Harris is like the premier auto journalist-

    28. JG

      True.

    29. JR

      ... of our time. And he chooses to have this one little tiny lightweight stripped down car that he has built. See if, if you found it?

    30. GT

      Uh.

  11. 49:491:06:59

    Work, purpose, and craft culture: building cars vs trophy-chasing show builds

    1. PG

      Speaking of-

    2. NA

      That-

    3. PG

      ... stage, fucking last night, dude, thank you. It was phenomenal.

    4. JR

      Thank you.

    5. PG

      What-

    6. JR

      Glad you guys had a good time.

    7. JG

      Had a phen-

    8. PG

      Yeah.

    9. JG

      ... phenomenal time.

    10. PG

      You run that place and your whole entire staff, I mean, hats off. It's like a fuck- watching an orchestra, like seriously.

    11. JR

      Yeah, they're all very good. Everybody's great. It's, it's a, it's a, it's a lovely little environment that we've created. It's real fun, and everybody loves it. It's like everybody's having a good time. It's, it's, it's real nice, you know.

    12. PG

      And you're working your fucking ass off.

    13. JG

      Fuck.

    14. JR

      Yeah, we're doing a lot of work.

    15. JG

      Dude, you-

    16. JR

      But it's not work.

    17. JG

      (laughs)

    18. JR

      It's, it's talking shit.

    19. JG

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      It's fun (laughs)

    21. JG

      I mean, I was, dude, my fucking hat's off to you the way, I mean, you're busting ass there, and that's, I don't know where the fuck you get the energy from.

    22. JR

      Vitamins.

    23. JG

      I'm 40 years old and I look at you, I'm like, "Goddam." Dude, what am I doing wrong?

    24. JR

      I'm used to doing it though, but I'm used to doing it.

    25. JG

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      I do it every day, you know, it's normal.

    27. JG

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. PG

      Yeah, you're on the gas, dude.

    30. JR

      No, it's fun. But it's fun. It's just fun, you know, when you're doing standup, like the hard part is the writing, the writing and the creating new bits and working them out on stage. That's the, the tricky part, the hard part, but the fun part is just like having a good time and people have fun, you know. It's just having a good time, that's all... You're just making a good time.

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