Joe Rogan Experience #2052 - Shane Dorian

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. SDShane Dorian0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) What's up, Shane Dorian?

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      How are you, brother?

   3. SDShane Dorian0:14

      I'm doing great, man.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Good to see you.

   5. SDShane Dorian0:15

      Thanks. Good to see you too.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      What's cracking? What's the latest and your greatest?

   7. SDShane Dorian0:19

      Lots of stuff, man. I feel like... I don't know. I feel like normally I don't have that much that's the latest and greatest, but yeah, a lot- a lot's been happening. I've been crazy busy, but all good stuff, so nothing to complain about.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      What's been happening? What's crazy busy?

   9. SDShane Dorian0:33

      Um, let's see. In the last, last three months, four months, been to Mexico twice, El Salvador once, California four or five times, Indonesia for a month, Tahiti, uh, France, Mexico.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Damn, son.

   11. SDShane Dorian0:49

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       World traveler.

   13. SDShane Dorian0:50

       A lot.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       What you been doing?

   15. SDShane Dorian0:52

       A lot of surfing.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Yeah?

   17. SDShane Dorian0:54

       A lot of surfing.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       How's your knee?

   19. SDShane Dorian0:56

       It's great.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Is it 100%?

   21. SDShane Dorian0:58

       It's f-

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Close?

   23. SDShane Dorian0:59

       It's amazing. It's not 100%, but it's... I never thought it would be this good again, honestly. It's really, really good. I have slight range of motion that's not as good as, as the other, which is sup- you know, to be expected, but it's great. I surf with no brace. I snowboard with no brace. Um, I go hunting all the time with no brace. I never, I never, I never really think about it, which is amazing.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:19

       For people that don't know, uh, you were in a snowboarding accident.

   25. SDShane Dorian1:21

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       And you fucking demolished your knee.

   27. SDShane Dorian1:24

       Yeah, I ran right into a tree.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       Sh- which is-

   29. SDShane Dorian1:26

       Wrapped my knee around a tree.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       Always my fear when I see people skiing and snowboarding and some... 'Cause I, I quit skiing because of a- an accident. I fucked my knee up, and I cracked my shin bone. I got an insufficiency fracture in the top of my shin bone.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   You were looking ripped,…

   1. SDShane Dorian15:00

      like, four weeks from now. Um, and then, but it's difficult, you know? Like, at my, uh, at my age, I'm 51 and, and for, like, 18 months, I've been pretty on it, like, trying to be fit, try-, trying to get my fitness better, try-, you know, really trying to get in shape.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:14

      You were looking ripped, dude. You sent me a picture.

   3. SDShane Dorian15:16

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      You were looking good.

   5. SDShane Dorian15:18

      Yeah. It's funny how guys will do that, huh? The guy- guys will be like, "Hey, update right here." (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:24

      (laughs)

   7. SDShane Dorian15:24

      Especially when you're, when you work freaking hard, dude.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:26

      Yeah, you want people to see it.

   9. SDShane Dorian15:28

      It takes a long time, especially me. I'm like a ... I don't know. The, like, the way my body works, like, if I don't work out, like ... So right now, if I didn't work out for, like, three months, p- I'll lose so much, right? Like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       Yeah.

   11. SDShane Dorian15:40

       ... just bec-, do, like, I feel like I'm gonna turn to mush.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       Right.

   13. SDShane Dorian15:44

       Once I mush, it, it might take a year-

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       (laughs)

   15. SDShane Dorian15:46

       ... to get back.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       Right.

   17. SDShane Dorian15:48

       That what I lost in, like, you know, one month or six weeks or something.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       I know.

   19. SDShane Dorian15:51

       Which is wild.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       Yeah.

   21. SDShane Dorian15:52

       Yeah. It sucks.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       And it's a bummer.

   23. SDShane Dorian15:54

       And I'm not cool with it at all, so.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       Yeah. It's, it really makes you appreciate it though once, once you do get it back. Like-

   25. SDShane Dorian16:02

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       ... once, if you do get out of shape and then you get back in shape, you realize how hard it is. That's one, um, one of the reasons why I'm so fanatical about working out, because I know that when I've gotten out of shape, that road back is a lot different at 56-

   27. SDShane Dorian16:15

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:15

       ... which is how old I am, versus 30 or 25.

   29. SDShane Dorian16:19

       Yeah, the road back's long.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       The road back at 25 is a couple weeks-
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Right. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      foods. And when you talk about, like... There's, there's a bunch of goofy e- epidemiology, uh, studies-... that talk about how meat increases your rate of cancer. But w- what that... The way those studies work is someone will fill out a form, like, "How many days a week do you eat meat?" And they're, "I eat meat six days a week." And what they don't ask is what kind of meat.

   2. SDShane Dorian30:23

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:23

      Are you eating a Jack in the Box cheeseburger? Do you have any fries with that?

   4. SDShane Dorian30:26

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:26

      Do you have a shake? Do you have soda? Like, there's a bunch of other things that people do eat. So, there's a thing called healthy user bias, right? So, if you're, if you're someone who says, like, "I don't eat any meat," and, um, well, well you're probably listening to a lot... You're, you're probably trying to do the right thing for your health, so you're listening to what would be, like, mainstream conventional doctor's wisdom on diet, which is almost m- certainly off. Because most of these doctors that are talking about this, they're n- they're not up on the latest studies. They're not like Huberman or Layne Norton or... And, and it's like, like, if you really want to know, like, what's good for you and what's bad for you, I always say listen to jacked scientists. Like, those are the guys that are gonna tell you, like, "These are the foods that are actually good for you."

   6. SDShane Dorian31:12

      Okay.

   7. JRJoe Rogan31:12

      "These are the foods that..." And almost everyone agrees, sugar's terrible for you. Sugar, breads, pastas. And then you get into the more controversial areas of seed oils. Seed oils, which essentially were initially... They were initially invented to be industrial fir- um, lubricants.

   8. SDShane Dorian31:30

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan31:30

      For machinery. And they figured out... Have you ever, like, seen the process where they take, like, canola oil, which, like, you think of as, like, "Oh, canola, must be corn."

   10. SDShane Dorian31:39

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:39

       "Must be healthy." No, it's rapeseed, which is a... That word, people don't like. Like, "Rapeseed?"

   12. SDShane Dorian31:45

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:46

       "What the fuck is that thing? I don't want... Have nothing to do with that plant."

   14. SDShane Dorian31:49

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:49

       Well, that's what canola oil is. And then there's, like, saffo il- saf- flower oil and sunflower oil. Oh, those sound wonderful. Not good for you at all.

   16. SDShane Dorian31:58

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:59

       Avocado oil is, though. Avocado oil is very good for you. Uh, olive oil, very good for you. There's a lot of oils that are very good for you. That's another thing that I'm using.

   18. SDShane Dorian32:06

       Those two in particular are definitely the best.

   19. JRJoe Rogan32:08

       Yeah. I... This is another thing I really like to do with meat. I'll pour olive oil on it.

   20. SDShane Dorian32:11

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan32:12

       Put a little salt, put a little olive oil. That's the way I'm getting a lot of healthy fats.

   22. SDShane Dorian32:15

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan32:16

       And so, so with my diet, I, I, uh, have to make sure that I get healthy fats because, uh, you just eat just only, like, elk. There's not enough fat.

   24. SDShane Dorian32:24

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:25

       They're too lean.

   26. SDShane Dorian32:26

       Yeah, definitely.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:26

       But ribeyes, you could eat all ribeyes all day.

   28. SDShane Dorian32:28

       If I ate all elk, I, I would probably weigh 130 pounds.

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:31

       You'd be shredded though, son.

   30. SDShane Dorian32:32

       Shredded like crazy.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   (laughs) …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      share it and be like, "Hey, next workout, you gotta try this."

   2. SDShane Dorian45:02

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      "It's like that good. It's like pre-workout but the whole thing."

   4. SDShane Dorian45:04

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      Yeah. It's interesting how mental, something that happens to you that's inspirational, like some sort of mental fuel-

   6. SDShane Dorian45:14

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      It's like a physical drug. Your, your body responds to it like a physical drug-

   8. SDShane Dorian45:18

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:18

      ... and you get fired up.

   10. SDShane Dorian45:20

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:21

       Yeah, it's, it's real. Like music is like that. Like, uh, uh most of the time I don't work out to music, I just work out.

   12. SDShane Dorian45:30

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:30

       Uh, I usually watch something on TV. I'll watch fights or something on TV. But every now and then I work out with music on and my god, you got like an extra gear-

   14. SDShane Dorian45:36

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       ... because of the music. You get fired up by a good song. Like say if you're doing like Tabata sprints on the Airdyne bike, a good song comes on and you're like, "Fuck yeah."

   16. SDShane Dorian45:45

       Right. Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:47

       It just, it just gives you extra energy.

   18. SDShane Dorian45:49

       Yeah. And it feels so good when you're done, when you've really worked hard.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       Yeah.

   20. SDShane Dorian45:52

       I love that feeling.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       It's a drug. I mean, inspiration-

   22. SDShane Dorian45:55

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       ... is a drug. Inspiration through music, inspiration through movies, inspiration through little short Instagram clips.

   24. SDShane Dorian46:01

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       It's a drug.

   26. SDShane Dorian46:02

       Yeah. It's crazy how what you listen to through your headphones can completely change the way your brain's thinking and just give you more output physically-

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       Mm-hmm.

   28. SDShane Dorian46:09

       ... like it's like... (mimics music through headphones) Pretty damn cool.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       It is cool. We're just very fortunate that there's so many sources of inspiration today.

   30. SDShane Dorian46:16

       Yeah, no kidding.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:07:35

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

   2. SDShane Dorian1:00:00

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      I enjoy it. I don't know wh- I enjoy when it's over.

   4. SDShane Dorian1:00:03

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      I enjoy success. I enjoy-

   6. SDShane Dorian1:00:04

      No doubt.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:05

      ... pulling off.

   8. SDShane Dorian1:00:06

      That was a huge challenge.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      Yeah.

   10. SDShane Dorian1:00:07

       The, the, the battle to overcome fear or pressure-

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:11

       Yes.

   12. SDShane Dorian1:00:11

       ... in the moment is huge.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

       Yes.

   14. SDShane Dorian1:00:13

       And that's why I love bow hunting.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

       Yes.

   16. SDShane Dorian1:00:14

       That's why I love it. That moment when there's that elk, and you know that this is your time, this is your window-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

       Yeah.

   18. SDShane Dorian1:00:19

       ... and every single thing that you've done in the last six months, every shot that you've taken, every target you've worn out is just critical on that specific moment, and you have to keep mentally...... you know, calm, like you said, in the zone, and you see that arrow hit exactly where you aimed-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

       Yes.

   20. SDShane Dorian1:00:33

       ... in that pressure cooker situation. It's, there's nothing like it. And-

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       Well-

   22. SDShane Dorian1:00:37

       ... I never thought I'd find something like that besides, like, surfing really big waves.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       Right.

   24. SDShane Dorian1:00:41

       And now I have. It's incredible.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:43

       Well, a lot of fighters say that too, and a lot of athletes. Like Derek Wolf, who played for the NFL-

   26. SDShane Dorian1:00:47

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       He, he's found a, a, a great relief and a great discipline in bow hunting, and he's, like, really dived full into it. But it's like, that, uh, that's a thing for a lot of folks.

   28. SDShane Dorian1:00:56

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       A lot of veterans that return back, that's a thing that really helps them, like, like, assimilate and just find some new thing that's like this-

   30. SDShane Dorian1:01:03

       Yeah.

Episode duration: 2:21:27