Joe Rogan Experience #2057 - Dale Brisby

Brisby explains that bull and bronc riders face severe injuries—broken necks, back surgeries, dislocations, and unmeasured CTE—but keep returning because the purity of the “fight” and the camaraderie behind the chutes become central to their identity.

Rogan and Brisby argue that a key 1960s sugar-industry-funded paper wrongly blamed saturated fat for heart disease, distorting public policy for decades, while sugar and processed carbs are the real drivers of obesity and heart problems for most people.

They distinguish brutal factory farming from pasture-based, regenerative systems where animals live naturally, recycle nutrients, can be close to carbon-neutral, and often have better lives and deaths than wildlife, challenging simplistic 'meat is killing the planet' claims.

Both men describe feeling best on meat-heavy or carnivore diets—steady energy, less brain fog, fewer crashes—and see cutting sugar, processed foods, and most carbs as more impactful than obsessing over dietary cholesterol.

Brisby parallels bronc riding, MMA, and combat: success depends on executing fundamentals while terrified—ignoring intuition that screams 'get away'—which builds a unique mental toughness that carries into other areas of life.