Joe Rogan Experience #2057 - Dale Brisby

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. DBDale Brisby0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

   3. DBDale Brisby0:12

      What is going on with this, man? What's going on, man? Joe Rogan, it's good to be here.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      It's a pleasure. Pleasure to meet you.

   5. DBDale Brisby0:16

      Likewise.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      I feel like I shouldn't have these on either. Show me that hat, bro. Let's go.

   7. DBDale Brisby0:20

      Oh.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      (laughs)

   9. DBDale Brisby0:23

      There's a couple ... I hope I didn't overdo it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       I've been here for three years. It's about time I wore one of these fucking hats.

   11. DBDale Brisby0:29

       (laughs) This is, uh, my brother made this belt end buckle.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       Oh, nice. Oh, that's pretty sweet.

   13. DBDale Brisby0:34

       That was an idea I had.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Oh, that's very cool. Oh, fuck yeah. Oh, it's got my name on it and everything? Ooh.

   15. DBDale Brisby0:42

       Yeah, it's a, it's a handmade ...

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       It's got a little elk antler. Look at that, folks. It's Christmas.

   17. DBDale Brisby0:47

       Lee Willard Gibbons made that.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Christmas early.

   19. DBDale Brisby0:49

       I hope that fits.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       I hope it fits too. Here we go. I got a fat head.

   21. DBDale Brisby0:54

       Oh, it's backwards.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Oh. (laughs)

   23. DBDale Brisby0:56

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Is that good?

   25. DBDale Brisby0:58

       Oh my gosh.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       Is that good?

   27. DBDale Brisby1:01

       Bro, that fits.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       It fits. How's it look, Jamie?

   29. DBDale Brisby1:04

       All right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       You fucking ...
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Ah. …

   1. DBDale Brisby15:00

      I was throwing up.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      Ah.

   3. DBDale Brisby15:01

      It was coming out both ends, like-

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      Ah. (laughs)

   5. DBDale Brisby15:05

      Him and Tim, they're the only ones that got me like that.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      It's hard to shoot after you're that tired too.

   7. DBDale Brisby15:10

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      It's hard to stay, like stay stable.

   9. DBDale Brisby15:13

      Oh.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:13

       If I come here after lifting and I try to shoot, my arms are... just they don't communicate well.

   11. DBDale Brisby15:19

       No.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       My arm doesn't wanna stay steady. This arm's all shaky. It's just... He, you know, he calls it lift, run, shoot, but I fucking think it would- should be shoot, lift, run. I don't think you should... I don't... When I practice like archery i- in the morning, I don't do jack shit before I practice archery.

   13. DBDale Brisby15:37

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       I wanna be loose. I loosen my arms up a little, I take some breathing exercises. I don't wanna be out of breath. I don't wanna be anything. Like, I know on the mountains, there's gonna be moments where you're out of breath and all that stuff. But I feel like getting in shape is the solution for that.

   15. DBDale Brisby15:52

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       I don't think the solution is trying to shoot when you're exhausted. You just develop bad habits. But Cam doesn't really shoot before he l-... He s-... He calls it lift, run, shoot, but he really shoots before he lifts.

   17. DBDale Brisby16:03

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       And he'll tell you the same thing, like, "You know, you- you really wanna be... You wanna have confidence in your shooting." And the only way to do that really is to be like relaxed and not s-... not exhausted. You don't want your arms exhausted. The whole idea is like you're trying to build repetition over... You need thousands of reps to be able to execute the way he does.

   19. DBDale Brisby16:22

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       You know, you watch him every fucking day, he does it the same way, every day.

   21. DBDale Brisby16:28

       Every day.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       E- there is muscle memory that's just built into him. Wap.

   23. DBDale Brisby16:32

       Yeah. It was, it was intense being up there. There's a lot of similarities between him and Tim.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:38

       Mm-hmm.

   25. DBDale Brisby16:38

       You know, being around him.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:39

       Yeah.

   27. DBDale Brisby16:40

       And I'm sure you're pretty similar to both of those guys, but-

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       I'm a little more loose than those fellas.

   29. DBDale Brisby16:45

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:45

       I like to get fucked up. (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Hurt. …

   1. DBDale Brisby30:00

      trashed-

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      Hurt.

   3. DBDale Brisby30:01

      ... in the arena, and, and like having to help 'em, you know-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Right.

   5. DBDale Brisby30:04

      ... in situations like that.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Right.

   7. DBDale Brisby30:06

      I don't know. But I'm sure fighters are the same way. But-

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      But they definitely get desensitized to people getting hurt.

   9. DBDale Brisby30:13

      Yep.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:13

       For sure. You know, (laughs) one time, uh, my wife, uh, she had like a ... one of those, uh, SUVs with a hatchback thing, and she was taking something outta the back, and the, the corner of the door was above her head and she didn't know. And she stood up and slammed it, the corner of it right into the top of her head, and blood starts trickling down her face. She was freaking out.... and I looked at it, I'm like, "It's, like, that big. It's, like, a little cut. We can super glue it." I was like, "It's nothing."

   11. DBDale Brisby30:43

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       I was like-

   13. DBDale Brisby30:44

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       To me it was like, if it was, that was my head, I'd be like-

   15. DBDale Brisby30:47

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       ... "Oh, it's just a little cut. It's no big deal." But you're like, "Blood? Ugh."

   17. DBDale Brisby30:50

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       And I'm like, "Oh, my God," I'm so de- uh, it's the person I love more than anyone, and I'm so desensitized to, like, a little cut.

   19. DBDale Brisby30:57

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       I'm like, "This is nothing."

   21. DBDale Brisby30:59

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       "This is, like, a, barely an injury." I'm so used to seeing people just busted open, their fucking e- eyelids hanging off their face, and I'm like-

   23. DBDale Brisby31:07

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:07

       ... "Don't stop the fight. Let them fight." You know, you're so used to seeing guys that you, that probably have a broken hand, 'cause they haven't thrown it in two rounds. You're so used to seeing guys get fucked. I've seen so many guys, I've seen, like, four guys have their legs snapped from checking kicks now. You see, you see so many injuries.

   25. DBDale Brisby31:25

       Yeah. I can't-

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:26

       I get so desensitized seeing people just getting fucking knocked into another dimension with a head kick, it's so normal.

   27. DBDale Brisby31:33

       I rodeoed with a guy, um, we went together for years, Ross Sherrod, he was a marine, so he came back from Iraq and started riding bareback horses, and he got, he got, uh, jerked down into, like, a pipe vent and, uh, just, like, crushed his face.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:52

       Oh.

   29. DBDale Brisby31:52

       Like, had to, like, surgery and, like, and he just never knocked out, just, like, stood up, and he's this little stocky, you know, marine, you know, like-

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:02

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Is that what they…

   1. DBDale Brisby45:00

      And I, and when I sold him, I bought another bull just, I thought he looked cool. And now, he's at my house, and, uh, he's a bucking bull, a practice bull. But those other order buyers that were in the sale barn, if they'd have bought that bull, like, he was going to go... I guess this is just like an extension of what you're saying, like, even with rodeo, people that argue with it. Like, man, if anything, I'm giving him a better life, you know? But regardless whether that bull would've come to be a bucking bull at my house or gone to, you know, be burger, I don't know. It's-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:32

      Is that what they would normally do to them when they're done with them? They turn them into burger?

   3. DBDale Brisby45:35

      Yeah, so whenever you get, like, an older cow, an older bull, um, the ser- the, the steaks from them are just not as good. Like, you want a young, either, like I said, grain-fed for me, to the, like, this perfect point. You got people in the feedlot that'll watch them, be like, "That one's ready." And, uh, and that's what, like, if you go to these steakhouses and get a prime rib eye, like, that was a, that was calf that was... I mean, that was not an old-

   4. JRJoe Rogan46:02

      Right.

   5. DBDale Brisby46:02

      ... steer, you know? He probably weighed 11, 1200 pounds, and once he got to that weight, it was his time.

   6. JRJoe Rogan46:08

      And a steer is a castrated bull, right?

   7. DBDale Brisby46:10

      Correct.

   8. JRJoe Rogan46:10

      So they, how old are they when they castrate them?

   9. DBDale Brisby46:13

      Uh, we'll usually do it pretty young, like, uh, maybe three months old. Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       And the whole idea with that is if they grow up like that, then their meat is more tender. Then they get bigger.

   11. DBDale Brisby46:24

       Their hormones just go a completely different direction, you know? And you can tell, like in a pasture, my dad could tell just even a six-month-old. Just, he'll come down the chute. He'll look at his head, and he'll be like, "Uh, we got a heifer, got a bull." But like, uh, when they're older, like a year or two, you can tell out in the pasture. Like, that's not a steer. That's a bull. Like, the way they grow is much different.

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:46

       Mm.

   13. DBDale Brisby46:46

       They're, like a bull is gonna be more lean. A steer's gonna have more fat to him. And heifers will be that way too. They don't, they're, they're not as good to eat as, like, a steer. Like, if you're getting a prime steak somewhere, it's probably a steer.

   14. JRJoe Rogan47:00

       How come? More muscle?

   15. DBDale Brisby47:02

       Again, like those hormones. Like, they're just-

   16. JRJoe Rogan47:04

       Right.

   17. DBDale Brisby47:04

       ... they're, so like, a steer's gonna be more muscular than a heifer. Like, he just doesn't have the focus of, like, reproduction that she does.

   18. JRJoe Rogan47:13

       Right.

   19. DBDale Brisby47:13

       You know? And now, he does, he, he doesn't have any focus of reproduction now that you castrated him. And so, like, he's all about... His only deal is he's going to grow and sleep. He's gonna eat and sleep.

   20. JRJoe Rogan47:25

       Mm.

   21. DBDale Brisby47:26

       And so you grow them and eat them to this perfect point in the feedlot. They'll start on a cow-calf. There's three phases. When they're born, it's called cow-calf, and that's the more sexy part of cowboying and ranching is like, you see them out in the pasture. And then that middle phase is the stocker phase, and, uh, and that's where, like, a yearling, you'll wean them at, like, 600 pounds in almost a year. Then you'll send them to a wheat pasture, and they'll be there for, you know, they'll gain however much weight, maybe get to like 900, and then they'll go to the feedlot till maybe 1200 pounds. So, that's the third phase, is the feedlot, and they'll get finished out, and then they'll get slaughtered at-

   22. JRJoe Rogan48:06

       Have you ever eaten an old bull?

   23. DBDale Brisby48:08

       Yeah. Yeah, so I had a old bull get, um, crippled, and I was like, "Well, let's just try it." Like, I got some rib eyes. Now that I'm on carnivore, like, I need the meat, you know?

   24. JRJoe Rogan48:16

       Right.

   25. DBDale Brisby48:16

       And I had this old bull get crippled. And sometimes when they get real bad crippled, you don't wanna take them to the sale barn, so we'll just process them. And, uh, it is so much tougher. It's so much tougher. Like, it, they wouldn't even sell it at the grocery store. Like a, like a 10-year-old bull, if you get that rib eye, it's just not good.

   26. JRJoe Rogan48:35

       Did you try different ways of cooking it? Did you try, like... 'Cause I would think that would be, that it would be similar.

   27. DBDale Brisby48:40

       There, there's probably some ways you could doctor it up.

   28. JRJoe Rogan48:42

       Yeah.

   29. DBDale Brisby48:42

       And when I say it's not good, I'm talking like, compared to a prime one steak from-

   30. JRJoe Rogan48:47

       Right. But is it more like wild game? Like, what is it like?
5. 1:00:00 – 1:11:28

   Why do you know…

   1. DBDale Brisby1:00:00

      for maybe like Tim Kennedy when he got back from Afghanistan.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      Why do you know you guys call it bullfighting? This is interesting. Like what is the difference between bull riding and bullfighting?

   3. DBDale Brisby1:00:08

      Oh, no. So... No. I'm sorry, I was talking while that video was playing.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      Right.

   5. DBDale Brisby1:00:10

      They were, there's guys around the bull ride...

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      Mm-hmm.

   7. DBDale Brisby1:00:14

      ... that are bullfighters. And their role is to, when he gets bucked off, they go in and distract that bull.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

      Right.

   9. DBDale Brisby1:00:20

      So I think that was Nate Justice was fighting bulls there at that rodeo, and he snuck in, got that bull's attention so JB can get out.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

       And so you're basically goading the bull to attack you?

   11. DBDale Brisby1:00:30

       Correct. But you got on cleats and pads and you're, you know... This guy? Yeah, that's Nate. And, uh...

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       Oh, look how he fell, Jesus Christ.

   13. DBDale Brisby1:00:38

       And I think that's, that's either Nathan Harp or Cody Webster around to the right, like he's already getting that bull's attention. So like- That's Brandon. And we're talking about like the best of the best bullfighters, so that, JB's got no chance at getting hooked a second time.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Right. Goddamn, the way he landed, that is crazy.

   15. DBDale Brisby1:01:00

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       Oof.

   17. DBDale Brisby1:01:02

       There's certain ways you get thrown into the, into the air that's like scary, that... (sniffs) I- I- I've... The scariest moments are like when you're flying through the air and you can't, you can't control how you land.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:15

       Right.

   19. DBDale Brisby1:01:16

       Another scary moment is when you get hung up.There's a bad hang-up on my, on my Instagram. It was, like, two or three videos ago. Like, y- when you get hung up by your hand, it's bad. But when you get hung up by your foot, it's-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:29

       (inhales deeply)

   21. DBDale Brisby1:01:30

       And this kid almost dies, like, in my arena at my house.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:33

       Ooh.

   23. DBDale Brisby1:01:34

       But, like, 'cause then you can't do anything. When you're on a... When you're hung up by your foot, by your hand, you're standing up so your head's not under the bull.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:42

       Uh-huh.

   25. DBDale Brisby1:01:45

       Yeah, that's, uh, Tyler Kipps on a bull we called Prison Mike. Good bull ride, and now he's about to get off.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:55

       And that's-

   27. DBDale Brisby1:01:56

       And see his foot?

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:56

       Yeah.

   29. DBDale Brisby1:01:57

       See his foot is hung?

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:57

       Oh, Jesus Christ.

Episode duration: 3:00:59