Joe Rogan Experience #2069 - Dr. Shawn Baker

Baker reports thousands of cases (and a Harvard survey of 2,000 carnivores) where shifting to near‑all‑meat diets improved or resolved conditions like type 2 diabetes, autoimmune disease, chronic pain, and mental health issues—arguing it’s at least a legitimate clinical intervention even if not universally necessary.

They describe how major asset managers hold large stakes in both processed food and drug companies, creating incentives to promote cheap, addictive foods that drive chronic disease and then profit again from the medications used to manage, rather than reverse, those conditions.

Examples include sugar industry’s historical funding to demonize saturated fat, Harvard epidemiology that classifies lasagna and sandwiches as 'red meat,' USDA modeling a 91% ultra‑processed 'healthy' menu, and diet guideline committee members with ties to drug and food companies.

Baker previews an upcoming study of 'lean mass hyper-responders'—fit individuals with extremely high LDL on low‑carb diets—whose advanced imaging reportedly shows minimal plaque compared with reference cohorts, potentially challenging the “LDL alone” heart disease model for this subgroup.

They discuss research suggesting gut bacteria and ketones can provide similar short‑chain fatty acids without fiber, and that in some autoimmune conditions (e.g., rheumatoid arthritis) high‑fiber diets may exacerbate symptoms, implying fiber is helpful mainly when displacing junk in a standard diet.