Joe Rogan Experience #2098 - Matt McCusker & Shane Gillis

1. 0:00 – 3:13

   Bud Light comeback, drinking limits, and Matt’s celiac/gluten issues

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Boys.

   3. SGShane Gillis0:13

      Yes.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Salute.

   5. SGShane Gillis0:15

      Hey.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Bud Light came all the way back. (laughs)

   7. SGShane Gillis0:17

      Oh, dude. Cheers.

   8. MMMatt McCusker0:18

      They did. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      To life, baby.

   10. MMMatt McCusker0:18

       Chase the water.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       They came all the way back.

   12. SGShane Gillis0:20

       Matt, do it responsibly.

   13. MMMatt McCusker0:22

       I can't. I'm not drinking. I can't.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       Are you a non-drinker now?

   15. MMMatt McCusker0:26

       No, I drink, I just unfortunately have a, uh, bad tummy. Can't have gluten.

   16. SGShane Gillis0:30

       Oh, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Oh.

   18. MMMatt McCusker0:31

       Had- I've had it since I was, like, 21.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Is it a Crohn's thing, or is it-

   20. MMMatt McCusker0:34

       No, it's like celiac. If I have it, I'll get it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Oh.

   22. MMMatt McCusker0:36

       Like, I won't die, I'll just start burping every... you know.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Celiac is rough, man. I have a buddy who didn't know he had it until, uh, he w- I think he was, like, 25 or something like that he got diagnosed.

   24. SGShane Gillis0:47

       Yeah?

   25. MMMatt McCusker0:47

       Yep.

   26. SGShane Gillis0:47

       Yeah. It's about when you got it, right?

   27. MMMatt McCusker0:48

       21, yeah.

   28. SGShane Gillis0:49

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Well, he, you know, probably had it his whole life, just was just, like, just felt like shit.

   30. SGShane Gillis0:54

       Yeah, maybe I have it. (laughs)
2. 3:13 – 5:17

   Post-fight beers, corner swelling tools, and Tyson vs. Buster Douglas

   1. SGShane Gillis3:13

      I should make it with UFC.

   2. MMMatt McCusker3:14

      They should make the fighters drink a beer before every fight.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:16

      (laughs)

   4. MMMatt McCusker3:16

      (laughs)

   5. SGShane Gillis3:17

      Yeah, I don't think that'd be too much of a...

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:18

      You know how they, they have Monster cans in the Octagon?

   7. MMMatt McCusker3:20

      Yeah, yeah.

   8. NANarrator3:21

      (laughing)

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:22

      That probably won't happen though, but why not?

   10. SGShane Gillis3:25

       Y- yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:25

       Why can't you? Why can't you have a- just fought-

   12. SGShane Gillis3:27

       All you have to do is put Bud Light on the bottle.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:29

       What, they're gonna say-

   14. SGShane Gillis3:29

       It's not like they're drinking fucking Monster during the fight.

   15. MMMatt McCusker3:31

       That's what I was saying. Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:32

       Yeah. Are they, are they gonna say it's bad for you to have a Bud Light after a fight? That's crazy. You just got punched in the head 185 times.

   17. SGShane Gillis3:39

       Yeah, after... after the fight, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:40

       (laughs)

   19. MMMatt McCusker3:40

       Yeah.

   20. SGShane Gillis3:40

       I don't think that's a tough sell. I think those guys are cracking beers after.

   21. MMMatt McCusker3:43

       Cracking beers, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:44

       Yeah, yeah. Like who, the Stron- Sean Strickland, Dricus du Plessis fight? Those guys deserve beers.

   23. SGShane Gillis3:49

       Those guys are drinking after.

   24. NANarrator3:49

       (laughs)

   25. SGShane Gillis3:49

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       They deserve a lot of beer after that fight.

   27. MMMatt McCusker3:51

       Use them as ice packs too, like a cold-

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:53

       Yeah, it's like right on your forehead.

   29. MMMatt McCusker3:54

       Cold one, right?

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:54

       Ah, ah, feels good.
3. 5:17 – 9:42

   Ref bias, kids’ sports parents, and a dad jumping into a wrestling match

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:17

      It was definitely, but there's a few of those out there in the sport. The- this, the sport should operate on a time, like a digital timer should go off the moment someone touches the ground.

   2. MMMatt McCusker5:26

      Yeah.

   3. SGShane Gillis5:26

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:26

      That's how it should go. Because if you're a guy and you, you know, you're, maybe you like this guy more.

   5. SGShane Gillis5:31

      Yeah, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:31

      You know? Like, the fighters and the referees, they know each other. Like, I'm, you know, I'm around these guys all the time in MMA and it's just, you get to be friends with them. I'm friends with these guys.

   7. MMMatt McCusker5:41

      Damn, so there's no official clock, it's just the ref-

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:43

      No.

   9. MMMatt McCusker5:43

      ... is in their head? I didn't... That's great. I used to do that.

   10. NANarrator5:45

       Well, in MMA-

   11. SGShane Gillis5:45

       Yeah, he starts a count. Yeah.

   12. MMMatt McCusker5:46

       That's crazy.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:46

       ... obviously this will count.

   14. SGShane Gillis5:47

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:47

       But in boxing, I'm sure it's kind of a similar situation where they all know each other.

   16. MMMatt McCusker5:51

       Oh, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:51

       Like, "Hey, what's up? What's going on? How you doing?"

   18. SGShane Gillis5:53

       Yeah.

   19. MMMatt McCusker5:53

       Dude, I used to ref kids' basketball when I was in high school.

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:56

       (laughs)

   21. MMMatt McCusker5:56

       And as soon as a kid talked shit to me, I'm like, in my head I was like, "Your team's losing." I'm gonna do everything in my power.

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:00

       (laughs)

   23. NANarrator6:01

       (laughs)

   24. SGShane Gillis6:01

       (laughs)

   25. MMMatt McCusker6:01

       Like, as soon as they're like, "Are you serious?" If a parent, if a parent spoke up, I'm like, "You just, you just lost this game for your son."

   26. SGShane Gillis6:06

       Congratulations.

   27. MMMatt McCusker6:07

       Yeah, like way to go, dickhead, and that was just... the whole time.

   28. JRJoe Rogan6:10

       ... you're just high as fuck- (laughs) ... coaching kids' basketball. (laughs) I was getting 15 bucks a game. Some parents are insufferable. Dude, it's insane. They're so insufferable. You see it in, uh, combat sports too. You see it, like some parents are just so crazy. Yeah. Jesus. And they think, they, they almost want to hit the other kid that, that fought their kid. Like, "Hey-" I guess- "... this is the deal." That makes sense though. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. No, no, I'm saying like- It does though. ... because you see your kid getting hit, it's not like a sport, like a football- Yeah. ... or something. Yeah. There's like an instinct to be like, "I gotta go beat that kid's ass." Oh, for sure. (laughs) But you, you know, there's- Yeah. Everybody knows what's going on here. This is like, it's very important you don't violate that, especially with kids and adults. And it's like, you're, you're allowing another child to possibly knock your kid unconscious. Yeah. And then that's, that's the agreement you're making. Jesus. And you're trying to have... Your kid is trying to knock that kid unconscious. (laughs) Yeah. Yeah, it is what it is. It's intense, man. Uh, when I used to coach kids, I used to take ki- take kids to fights, like young teenagers, take them to fights. (laughs) You know, and, and sometimes their parents would just be fucking freaking out. (laughs) You know? It's like, I'm so used to seeing people get kicked in the face. To me- Yeah. ... it's like normal. I don't have any kids. I'm 21. Yeah. And I'm like, "Okay, how do I talk to these parents and get them to relax and understand, like this is the agreement that's been made here." Yeah. Like, "You can't freak out." Yeah, you're gonna freak your kid out. Yeah, you're gonna freak your kid out. You're putting too much pressure on your kid. Like, H- Helio Gracie used to give his children toys and presents if they lost. That's kinda cool. Yeah. He wanted th- them to b- he just wanted them to get better, and he's like, the, the, the fear of competition, the fear of losing is so overwhelming, he would do everything he could to mitigate it. And so instead of him getting fucking angry and hyped up, he would hug them and give them toys and give them things if they lost. Hmm. That's really nice. Yeah. That's kind of a good way to go about it, 'cause even like basketball and football, like I've seen parents like spazz, dude. Yeah, 'cause if you think- Yeah. ... about it, like the kid's gonna try to win anyway. He's not gonna try to get his ass kicked by a GI Joe. (laughs) (laughs) You know what I mean? He's gonna try to win anyway. He starts throwing the match. So if he wins, he gets the win, and if he loses, he gets a fucking toy. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I had a bet once, my dad, if I scored three baskets in a game, I'd be able to rent Mortal Combat. (laughs) Whoa. (laughs) My whole team was trying to get... My friends were trying to get me the ball. (laughs) I sucked. (laughs) Six points? I, again, needed six points. Jumping six in a Summer League game is not easy. That's why... No, I was young. We were young, dude. It was tough. Oh, it sucked. It was so hard. Yeah. There was a wrestling match that was recently... This video went viral because this kid, the, these two guys are wrestling, and it looks like this kid doesn't have an arm in. It looks like he's just on the neck, which is illegal in wrestling. You're supposed to have an arm in- Yeah. ... and the, the dad jumps in, and I think he hits the kid. (laughs) Oh, no. Yeah, it's kid... The, the, the dad, I believe, got banned for life. That... Yeah, that- Yeah. ... should do it. Oh, he actually jumped in and beat the dude's ass? Yeah, he thought it was WWE rules. (laughs) He felt he had to interfere. He gave him the steel chair. (laughs) Pull his ankles through... (laughs) Yeah. (laughs) I don't know what the rules are to wrestling, so I can't tell you whether or not this... I, I really know very little about wrestling. So I don't know whether or not the kid was doing something that was highly illegal. And Jujitsu looks normal. It's like- Yeah. ..., "Oh, yeah, he got his neck." But I guess in wrestling, you can't just grab the neck. Yeah. You have to have- Probably. ... an arm in. I, I t- I shouldn't even be talking about this. I really should... I ac- honestly should know. No, you're right. (laughs) (laughs) It's the things that I should know. (laughs) You know, what the, what the limitations of their sport are, but I just... I'm always like, "It's so silly." I guess you can choke in wrestling. Like, I think you could maybe, like a classic

4. 9:42 – 15:12

   Old-school MMA submissions, vale tudo ‘tighty-whities,’ and getting robbed in Brazil

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:42

      headlock? I don't know. Yeah, you get hit in the fucking... (laughs) Yeah. Can you... But do you, don't you have to have an arm in though? I have no clue. Don't you have to have an arm in? I don't know any rules about wrestling at all. I don't kn-... I don't either. I was also saying it's hard to drop- I, I don't understand it. I was saying it's hard to drop six in a Summer League game. Oh, yeah. I wasn't- Yeah, yeah, no. I wasn't pooh-poohing your effort. I'm like- No, Matt, I'm talking about- If I dropped six in a Summer League game, I was like, "Oh." Yeah. Fell down 10 times. (laughs) Dude. (laughs) There's a choke where you put someone completely unconscious with one arm, with the, just the, like, uh, like a headlock. It's called like a, a bulldog choke or a schoolyard choke. Yeah. They call it a schoolyard choke. That's how, um, Carlos Newton beat Pat Miletich for the welterweight title, like way, way back in the day. It's a crazy picture, 'cause Carlos Newton is fucking shredded. Yeah. And he's just got ahold- Is that the one you have here? Oh. No, no, no. 'Cause that's- That's, that's Alexander Karelin. That's a scary one. (laughs) That's the scariest guy that's ever lived. (laughs) That's the scariest thing I've ever seen. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's the scariest guy that ever lived. That guy used to just throw people around. (laughs) But that, that... So there's no way that's legal, 'cause you could put someone unconscious with that. Yeah, I don't think you're allowed. Yeah, probably not. Jimmy, what are the rules for wrestling? Are you allowed to grab someone by their neck? (laughs) Can you show me the video with the kid, uh, where the dad jumps in?

   2. JVJamie Vernon10:47

      That's, uh, I, I'm-

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:47

      It's kind of-

   4. JVJamie Vernon10:48

      I'm not sure if I found the right one. This one I found was the point-

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:50

      Yeah, that's that... But the one you just showed, showed that picture again? That's Carlos Newton when he caught Pat Miletich. Jesus. Oh, yeah, with the...

   6. JVJamie Vernon10:56

      The arm, son.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:56

      Oh. That's the fucking big brother, dude. Oh. Look at that arm, son. If you had an arm like that- Is that lunch money? ... you'd let it sit out the window all day long. Oh, God. Hey, ladies. Look at that arm.

   8. JVJamie Vernon11:04

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan11:04

      Good Lord. Bro, he's so shredded. Fuck. Yeah, Carlos Newton was a sensational submission guy too. He also fought Matt Hughes and choked Matt Hughes unconscious, but Matt Hughes slammed him to the ground and knocked him unconscious, and Matt Hughes woke up first. And Matt Hughes was like, "I won?" Like he didn't even know he won. What? Oh, no. 'Cause th-... What happened was Carlos got him in a standing triangle, and Carlos is putting him out while he's standing up. And then Matt, in like his last ditch effort, slams him to the ground as he's going out. Wow. It's like the end of a movie. Carlos goes out, and he goes out, and then Matt wakes up. And I remember being there. Matt, Matt was like, "I win?" (laughs) And he won from waking up first? Oh, he was the fucking man, dude. Back in the day, he was the man. Matt Hughes was like the first, like truly elite wrestler that learned like black belt level submission skills. (laughs) So they're both out. What the fuck? They're both out. (laughs) And so, like, Matt's like, "Wha-" He doesn't know what's going on. (laughs)

   10. JVJamie Vernon11:59

       But he sat up, so he's good.

   11. JRJoe Rogan12:00

       And someone- Dude, getting slammed wearing fucking tighty-whities sucks, dude. (laughs)

   12. JVJamie Vernon12:04

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan12:04

       That sucks so bad. (laughs) Ugh, it was a great fight. Matt Hughes was the fucking man, dude. I'm telling you. Tighty-whities is a wild move, dude. Yeah, yeah, that is pretty nuts, dude.It is a wild move. But everybody wore them back then. The, the Brazilian vale tudo guys, they all wore Speedos.

   14. MMMatt McCusker12:19

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan12:19

       'Cause they fought, like, they fought on the beach. "Come on, boa." Goddamn.

   16. MMMatt McCusker12:22

       Yeah, pretty boys.

   17. JRJoe Rogan12:23

       Yeah.

   18. SGShane Gillis12:23

       You got in a fight with some Brazilians on the beach.

   19. MMMatt McCusker12:25

       I got robbed in Brazil on the beach.

   20. JRJoe Rogan12:26

       (laughs)

   21. MMMatt McCusker12:26

       Oh, no.

   22. SGShane Gillis12:27

       They told me that- Were they in their undies?

   23. MMMatt McCusker12:29

       Uh, no, they were just in some trunks, respectable trunks.

   24. JRJoe Rogan12:31

       Damn.

   25. MMMatt McCusker12:31

       But yeah, they told me not to walk home on the beach by myself-

   26. JRJoe Rogan12:34

       And you just did?

   27. MMMatt McCusker12:34

       ... late at night or early in the morning. I was like, late at night I could see, (can opening) but I was like early in the morning, at sunrise. And I got robbed at gun, or at, uh, knife point. Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan12:41

       Damn.

   29. MMMatt McCusker12:41

       So, yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan12:42

       Damn. That must have been terrifying.
5. 15:12 – 19:40

   Currency jokes, counterfeiting methods, and LA’s bizarre enforcement priorities

   1. SGShane Gillis15:12

      We were in Australia...

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      (laughs)

   3. SGShane Gillis15:13

      Dude, we were in Australia, and Matt was like, "This is USD."

   4. MMMatt McCusker15:16

      I tried to pay with $20 in US money.

   5. SGShane Gillis15:19

      He tried to pay with US dollars. (laughs)

   6. MMMatt McCusker15:19

      And they were like, "We don't take that." I'm like, "Come on, man." It's like-

   7. SGShane Gillis15:21

      "Come on, man, this is 10 times your money."

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:22

      (laughs)

   9. MMMatt McCusker15:23

      (laughs)

   10. SGShane Gillis15:23

       It's like, dude, this is American.

   11. MMMatt McCusker15:25

       I was treating them like-

   12. SGShane Gillis15:26

       We're Australians. (laughs)

   13. MMMatt McCusker15:26

       I was treating them like I was in, like, Honduras. I was like, "Yo, here's a 20 bucks." And they're like, "Well, we can't take this." I'm like, "Nah, y- they don't give you that. That's, that's good money."

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       Some money, I've l-... They have, like, clear little holes in them, and there's, like, little holograms in it. It's like-

   15. SGShane Gillis15:38

       It's all bullshit, dude.

   16. MMMatt McCusker15:38

       It's fake.

   17. SGShane Gillis15:39

       American money is the only thing that matters.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       Isn't it wild, though, that no one's-

   19. MMMatt McCusker15:42

       For sure.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       ... figured out how to completely accurately recreate money? It's just pieces of p-... Like, they had to really stay ahead of the curve.

   21. SGShane Gillis15:49

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       For the counterfeiters-

   23. MMMatt McCusker15:50

       For the counterfeits.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       ... this technology increase-

   25. MMMatt McCusker15:52

       Yeah, true. I didn't even think about that.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       ... all the printers.

   27. SGShane Gillis15:53

       Uh, it was a major problem when this country was, like, starting.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       Yeah, we-

   29. MMMatt McCusker15:56

       Yeah.

   30. SGShane Gillis15:56

       It was an easy thing to do.
6. 19:40 – 23:24

   Taylor Swift in the NFL, snow shoveling jobs, and the beauty of snow days

   1. JRJoe Rogan19:40

      You know, if he smacked Taylor Swift, that would be a real issue.

   2. MMMatt McCusker19:42

      That would be-

   3. SGShane Gillis19:42

      Yeah, yeah.

   4. MMMatt McCusker19:42

      Yeah, yeah.

   5. SGShane Gillis19:42

      Don't put your hands on our queen.

   6. JRJoe Rogan19:45

      (laughs)

   7. MMMatt McCusker19:45

      Not after last night. She had... She's- didn't she do well last night? I saw the news. She did a lot at the Grammys.

   8. SGShane Gillis19:50

      Things are going well for Taylor Swift.

   9. JRJoe Rogan19:51

      I find it-

   10. MMMatt McCusker19:52

       She's doing all right. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan19:52

       I find it so fascinating how many people are s- for whatever reason are opposed to it. They don't like that she's so popular.

   12. MMMatt McCusker20:01

       I don't understand it.

   13. JRJoe Rogan20:01

       It's really... Uh, it's normal. It's normal human behavior.

   14. MMMatt McCusker20:04

       Well, she's ruining the game of football now.

   15. JRJoe Rogan20:05

       Ah.

   16. SGShane Gillis20:06

       I can't watch it. I can't even watch it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan20:08

       She's rui- that's the new thing. (laughs)

   18. SGShane Gillis20:09

       Bro.

   19. MMMatt McCusker20:09

       She's ruined, she has ruined the game of football.

   20. SGShane Gillis20:10

       I can't even watch it anymore.

   21. JRJoe Rogan20:11

       Listen. (laughs)

   22. SGShane Gillis20:12

       'Cause it cuts to her once or twice during the game.

   23. MMMatt McCusker20:16

       And it j- every time you see her, you're like, "What..."

   24. SGShane Gillis20:16

       And I see her, and I go, "Mother f-" (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan20:17

       Why do you care?

   26. MMMatt McCusker20:19

       No, I don't at all. (laughs)

   27. SGShane Gillis20:20

       Oh. (laughs)

   28. MMMatt McCusker20:21

       It's crazy.

   29. SGShane Gillis20:22

       What- (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan20:22

       (laughs)
7. 23:24 – 30:05

   LeMaire’s fall footage, youth wrestling legality, and dads losing control (plus dog park fights)

   1. SGShane Gillis23:24

      But LeMaire fell-

   2. JRJoe Rogan23:26

      Watch the news.

   3. SGShane Gillis23:26

      LeMaire fell yesterday. That's-

   4. MMMatt McCusker23:27

      Oh, yeah.

   5. SGShane Gillis23:27

      I- I was like... But you couldn't hear him fall. He fell behind us. We were walking into the creek in the cave, and he'd slipped, and I te- I was like, "Dang, he fell like snow."

   6. MMMatt McCusker23:35

      (laughs)

   7. SGShane Gillis23:36

      Like, it was dead silent.

   8. JRJoe Rogan23:37

      (laughs)

   9. MMMatt McCusker23:37

      (laughs)

   10. SGShane Gillis23:37

       We didn't hear him fall. He didn't make a noise.

   11. JRJoe Rogan23:40

       Oh, shit.

   12. SGShane Gillis23:40

       Oh, we got the security footage. I sent it to Jamie.

   13. JRJoe Rogan23:41

       Oh, you got the security footage of him falling?

   14. SGShane Gillis23:43

       Bro, I immediately got the security footage. Look at him.

   15. MMMatt McCusker23:46

       Oh, my God.

   16. SGShane Gillis23:48

       (laughs)

   17. MMMatt McCusker23:50

       Oh.

   18. SGShane Gillis23:50

       (laughs)

   19. MMMatt McCusker23:50

       (laughs)

   20. SGShane Gillis23:51

       You gotta get the other angle.

   21. JRJoe Rogan23:52

       That was fairly graceful.

   22. MMMatt McCusker23:54

       Yeah, I mean, he laid there.

   23. JRJoe Rogan23:54

       It seems like there's steps there, defaulting steps.

   24. SGShane Gillis23:57

       He, he jumped over the curb, and he stepped on the bottom of that. (laughs)

   25. MMMatt McCusker24:00

       Oh.

   26. JRJoe Rogan24:00

       Oh, boy. Boy, it doesn't take a lot to trip him.

   27. MMMatt McCusker24:03

       No.

   28. SGShane Gillis24:04

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan24:04

       Look at that.

   30. MMMatt McCusker24:05

       That's...
8. 30:05 – 36:57

   Poodles aren’t ‘soft,’ Andrew Tate talk, and Austin cedar fever + vocal strain

   1. MMMatt McCusker30:05

      Poodles are working, poodles are a working breed.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      (laughs)

   3. MMMatt McCusker30:08

      A big poodle.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      A real big one.

   5. MMMatt McCusker30:09

      A big poodle, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      Yeah.

   7. MMMatt McCusker30:10

      Those things are nasty.

   8. What are they doing?

   9. They're big. A big poodle would-

   10. What do they work on?

   11. ... bird hunting, probably.

   12. SGShane Gillis30:15

       Poodles?

   13. MMMatt McCusker30:15

       Yeah, poodles are bird hunters.

   14. SGShane Gillis30:17

       Is that what they are?

   15. MMMatt McCusker30:17

       I'm pretty sure. A, a big poodle, not a little Euro- like, a little-

   16. SGShane Gillis30:20

       Right, right.

   17. MMMatt McCusker30:20

       ... toy dog, yeah.

   18. SGShane Gillis30:21

       Toy, yeah. Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       I've heard they're actually good watchdogs, the big poodles.

   20. MMMatt McCusker30:24

       Dude, I'm telling you, the big poodles are not pussy to be shit.

   21. SGShane Gillis30:26

       God, everything the French do is so good.

   22. MMMatt McCusker30:27

       I was, I was a dog walker, dude.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       (laughs)

   24. SGShane Gillis30:28

       Every single thing, dude. I- imagine being, like, an aristocrat with a poodle.

   25. MMMatt McCusker30:31

       Dude, they're sexual dogs too.

   26. SGShane Gillis30:33

       Everything the French do is sexual, dude.

   27. MMMatt McCusker30:35

       Poodles are very sexual. I used to dog walk in the... I had a big, black poodle I walked, and he tried to fuck me the whole time.

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       Jesus.

   29. SGShane Gillis30:40

       That was you, dude. You were just looking at him.

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       (laughs)
9. 36:57 – 52:13

   Karaoke saves marriages, bombing gigs, and the brutal comedy ‘grind’ years

   1. SGShane Gillis36:57

      We watched... We might have watched it here when Matt sang at the holiday party at the Mothership.

   2. MMMatt McCusker37:01

      Oh, yeah, yeah.

   3. SGShane Gillis37:02

      Bro.

   4. MMMatt McCusker37:02

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan37:02

      Yeah. What did you sing? I forget.

   6. MMMatt McCusker37:04

      Unchained Melody.

   7. JRJoe Rogan37:05

      Uh, we watched from the balcony. (laughs)

   8. MMMatt McCusker37:08

      (laughs)

   9. SGShane Gillis37:08

      Yeah. It was incredible.

   10. MMMatt McCusker37:09

       Me and my wife were fighting and then we both had karaoke songs come up and I'm like, "We don't have time for this. Let's go sing our karaoke." (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan37:16

       Ugh.

   12. MMMatt McCusker37:16

       And we got... We made up. It was nice.

   13. JRJoe Rogan37:17

       That's hilarious.

   14. MMMatt McCusker37:19

       I think you guys poisoned me with this water.

   15. JRJoe Rogan37:21

       Made up of karaoke? No, it's the dog.

   16. SGShane Gillis37:22

       You, you guys seem like they're getting better.

   17. MMMatt McCusker37:23

       They are. It's going, it's going. It happens every now and then.

   18. JRJoe Rogan37:24

       (laughs)

   19. SGShane Gillis37:24

       I think it's the dog.

   20. MMMatt McCusker37:26

       I do.

   21. JRJoe Rogan37:26

       You should probably... It's always in your... You gotta blow your nose, and then-

   22. SGShane Gillis37:29

       You probably got some sort of-

   23. MMMatt McCusker37:29

       I did. It was something that was in my nose.

   24. SGShane Gillis37:30

       You got a kennel cough.

   25. MMMatt McCusker37:33

       (laughs)

   26. SGShane Gillis37:33

       That dog, that's a new dog. Dude, you got a fucking weird dog disease.

   27. MMMatt McCusker37:36

       My body will fight it off.

   28. JRJoe Rogan37:37

       It is a new dog.

   29. SGShane Gillis37:37

       Hopefully.

   30. MMMatt McCusker37:38

       My body will fight it off.
10. 52:13 – 59:16

    Clydesdales, Bud Light tours, and the weirdly epic legacy of Prohibition

    1. SGShane Gillis52:13

       Matthew, would you please hand me a Bud Light?

    2. MMMatt McCusker52:15

       Absolutely.

    3. SGShane Gillis52:15

       Responsibly.

    4. MMMatt McCusker52:16

       Absolutely.

    5. SGShane Gillis52:17

       Wow, what a fucking beer, dude.

    6. JRJoe Rogan52:20

       (laughs)

    7. MMMatt McCusker52:20

       (laughs)

    8. SGShane Gillis52:20

       God damn, dude. Something about it.

    9. MMMatt McCusker52:22

       Dude, it's-

    10. SGShane Gillis52:23

        I met the Clydesdales.

    11. MMMatt McCusker52:25

        Did you really?

    12. JRJoe Rogan52:26

        You had to meet horses?

    13. SGShane Gillis52:27

        I had to meet some horses.

    14. JRJoe Rogan52:28

        Hmm.

    15. SGShane Gillis52:29

        And then I got, I got really responsible. It was in New Orleans. And I got extremely responsible that night. (laughs)

    16. JRJoe Rogan52:33

        Around the horses?

    17. MMMatt McCusker52:34

        (laughs)

    18. JRJoe Rogan52:35

        Around the horses?

    19. SGShane Gillis52:35

        No, then I called my dad and he didn't answer. It was late. And I was like, "I met horses." (laughs)

    20. JRJoe Rogan52:43

        (laughs)

    21. MMMatt McCusker52:43

        (laughs)

    22. SGShane Gillis52:43

        I left him like a voicemail.

    23. MMMatt McCusker52:44

        (laughs)

    24. JRJoe Rogan52:44

        (laughs)

    25. SGShane Gillis52:44

        I was like, "Dad, it was a good time in New Orleans. I saw horses."

    26. JRJoe Rogan52:47

        (laughs)

    27. MMMatt McCusker52:47

        (laughs)

    28. JRJoe Rogan52:47

        "I met the Clydesdales."

    29. SGShane Gillis52:49

        He was like, "Jesus Christ." (laughs)

    30. MMMatt McCusker52:50

        Oh my god.

Episode duration: 3:11:31