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Episode Details
EPISODE INFO
- Released
- June 17, 2025
- Duration
- 2h 59m
- Channel
- The Joe Rogan Experience
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION
Beth Shapiro, Ph.D., is an evolutionary molecular biologist and Chief Science Officer at Colossal Biosciences. She’s also the author of “Life as We Made It: How 50,000 Years of Human Innovation Refined―and Redefined―Nature.” https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/beth-shapiro/life-as-we-made-it/9781541644151 https://colossal.com/team/beth-shapiro-ph-d/ Unlock yourself at https://join.WHOOP.com/jre for one month free 50% off your first box at https://www.thefarmersdog.com/rogan!
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EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Beth Shapiro, Joe Rogan Experience #2338 - Beth Shapiro explores De-extinction, dire wolves, and DNA: rewriting nature’s rulebook together Joe Rogan and geneticist Beth Shapiro dive into ancient DNA, de-extinction, and how humans have been reshaping nature for tens of thousands of years. Shapiro explains her path from broadcast journalism to pioneering paleogenomics and her current role at Colossal Biosciences, where she helps engineer ‘dire wolves’ and works on projects like mammoths, dodos, and red wolves. They explore the scientific, ethical, and ecological stakes of reviving lost traits and species, from Neanderthal genomes to mammoth rewilding and genetic rescue for endangered animals. Throughout, they contrast scientific curiosity and innovation with academic gatekeeping, public fear, and the real-world risks of biological manipulation and invasive species.
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