Joe Rogan Experience #2357 - Sarko Gergerian

ℹ️ EPISODE INFO

Released

July 30, 2025

Duration

1h 59m

Channel

The Joe Rogan Experience

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📝 EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Sarko Gergerian is a law enforcement professional, mental health counselor, and advocate for psychedelic self-care. He is a founding member of Community and Law Enforcement Assisted Recovery (CLEAR), a recovery oriented community policing methodology. He shares ideas of his own and doesn't claim to represent the beliefs of his employer, organizations, and/or city. https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org The ultimate wireless hack. Make the switch at https://visible.com/rogan

🎤 SPEAKERS

• Sarko Gergerian

  guest

• Joe Rogan

  host

• Narrator

  other

🧾 EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Sarko Gergerian and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan Experience #2357 - Sarko Gergerian explores Police Lieutenant Champions Psychedelics To Heal Trauma And Reform Policing Joe Rogan speaks with Massachusetts police lieutenant and therapist Sarko Gergerian about using psychedelics to treat first-responder trauma and rethinking the war on drugs. Gergerian recounts discovering MDMA-assisted therapy through Rick Doblin and MAPS, his own mystical treatment experience, and the staggering PTSD and suicide rates among law enforcement. They critique Schedule I drug laws, trace the political and economic roots of prohibition from cannabis to psychedelics, and argue for regulated safe supply rather than cartel-controlled black markets. The conversation closes with concrete examples of “recovery-oriented community policing” and a call to reorient law enforcement toward guardianship and public health.

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