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Episode Details
EPISODE INFO
- Released
- October 10, 2025
- Duration
- 2h 31m
- Channel
- The Joe Rogan Experience
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION
John Kiriakou is a former CIA counter-terrorism officer and the first U.S. official to confirm the agency's torture of detainees. Punished for being a whistleblower, he served nearly 2 years in a federal prison. https://www.johnkiriakou.com Buy 1 Get 1 Free Trucker Hat with code ROGAN at https://happydad.com
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EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and John Kiriakou, Joe Rogan Experience #2392 - John Kiriakou explores CIA Whistleblower Explains Torture Program, Deep State, And Retaliation Joe Rogan interviews former CIA officer John Kiriakou about his role in capturing high‑value al‑Qaeda targets, his refusal to participate in the post‑9/11 torture program, and the U.S. government’s subsequent prosecution and imprisonment of him after he spoke publicly. Kiriakou describes in detail the so‑called “enhanced interrogation techniques,” why they constituted torture, and how they were largely ineffective compared to traditional FBI interrogation methods. He lays out how internal dissent was punished, how the intelligence bureaucracy outlasts presidents and shapes policy, and how political actors like John Brennan allegedly weaponized the Espionage Act against whistleblowers. The conversation expands into broader issues: FBI entrapment cases, January 6, propaganda laws, U.S.–Israel politics, and the structural incentives that push American security institutions toward abuse and secrecy.
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