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Joe Rogan Experience #2396 - Andrew Schulz

Andrew Schulz is a stand-up comic, actor, and podcaster. He's the host of the "Flagrant" podcast with Akaash Singh, and the "Brilliant Idiots" podcast with Charlamagne Tha God. https://www.theandrewschulz.com https://www.youtube.com/theandrewschulz

Joe RoganhostAndrew Schulzguest
Oct 18, 20253h 36mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:29

    AI-generated 50 Cent soul remixes and how easy the prompts are

    Andrew Schulz opens by playing an AI rework of 50 Cent—turning classic rap into a vintage soul style—and Joe reacts to how well the lyrics translate. They dig into whether this is complicated production work or just simple prompting, with Jamie mentioned as someone who’s experimented with it.

    • AI flips 50 Cent tracks (e.g., “What Up Gangsta”) into a 1950s/soul arrangement
    • Joe’s reaction to the flow and how it changes appreciation of the lyrics
    • Discussion of prompt simplicity vs. real music production/iteration
    • AI remix makes the writing feel newly “discoverable”
  2. 2:29 – 7:15

    Cigars, 50 Cent stories, and the “clean security” travel problem

    They light cigars and riff on status, masculinity, and 50 Cent’s humor. The conversation turns into touring logistics and how security realities change when traveling internationally, including Joe’s story about bringing “clean” (non-felon) security into certain countries.

    • Foundation Cigars talk: origin, strength, Maduro preference
    • 50 Cent’s jokes and why his persona lands comedically
    • Andrew’s brief 50 Cent encounter via UFC work years ago
    • International travel constraints: felonies, visas, and “clean” security
  3. 7:15 – 16:44

    Dehumanization online: Charlie’s death, algorithms, and flattening people into cartoons

    A darker turn: they discuss public reactions to a controversial figure’s death (Charlie) and how people celebrate harm when they’ve dehumanized someone through clips. Joe and Andrew argue the internet creates incompatible realities, rewarding outrage and stripping nuance via algorithmic incentives.

    • People no longer share the same “reality” due to online media ecosystems
    • Joe’s personal anecdote: Charlie DM’d to verify a misleading headline
    • Context collapse: 30-second clips replacing full conversations
    • Left/right versions of a person become mutually exclusive caricatures
  4. 16:44 – 18:30

    AI video and the slippery slope: deepfakes, porn, and ‘moral police’ debates

    They pivot from funny AI video examples into the uncomfortable implications of uncensored AI generation—especially sexual content and deepfakes. The discussion highlights how quickly tech outpaces norms and why celebrities (and families) become targets.

    • Sora-style AI video absurdity and “it’s not real” humor logic
    • OpenAI/AI platforms, censorship, and the ‘not our job’ stance
    • Deepfake porn as an escalation of old Photoshop/face-swap culture
    • Ethical asymmetry: people may laugh until it targets spouses/family
  5. 18:30 – 23:25

    ‘Matches for the first time’: AI governance, fire analogies, and arsonist chaos

    They compare today’s AI moment to humanity first gaining fire—powerful, democratized, and dangerous. From there, the conversation detours into real-world chaos: arsonists during wildfires, opportunistic criminals, and how disorder attracts predators.

    • Analogy: AI as giving everyone matches/fire without rules
    • LA-area fire discussion: arsonists, suspicious behavior, fake fire-truck story
    • Chaos as cover for crime—looting and burglary during disasters
    • ‘Broken window’ logic: one disruption triggers wider collapse
  6. 23:25 – 25:54

    Rebuilding after disaster: red tape, permits, and why bureaucracy enrages people

    They connect disaster recovery to the broader problem of governance and permitting—especially in California. Joe contrasts necessary regulation with paralysis, using examples of fast-tracked infrastructure rebuilds when rules are temporarily stripped away.

    • Adam Carolla’s point: rebuilding is hard due to permits and delays
    • Example of bridge/infrastructure rebuilt rapidly after regulations were eased
    • Nuanced view: some red tape protects quality and safety; too much blocks progress
    • How public frustration grows when emergency action proves speed is possible
  7. 25:54 – 27:52

    California politics and policy fights: PFAS ‘forever chemicals’ and Newsom critiques

    The conversation focuses on regulation where it matters most: health and consumer safety. They discuss PFAS in cookware, skepticism about political messaging, and why some leaders frame basic protections as disruptive “product shifts.”

    • PFAS/forever chemicals in non-stick cookware as a public health issue
    • Anger at vetoing restrictions framed as pro-industry/profit behavior
    • Why food/consumer regulation matters (companies cut corners without oversight)
    • Media spin vs. plain-language: ‘the bill stops poison’
  8. 27:52 – 30:40

    Why people are leaving California: NIMBYism, housing, and Hollywood production flight

    They argue California can be the best state geographically while still being mismanaged politically. The discussion includes NIMBY dynamics, construction constraints, and a major claim: film/TV production is increasingly leaving LA for places offering better incentives and fewer obstacles.

    • California’s unmatched geography vs. governance-driven quality-of-life problems
    • NIMBYism and the Martha’s Vineyard migrant example as a hypocrisy case
    • Hollywood economics: tax incentives abroad (e.g., Australia) vs. LA feasibility
    • Downstream impact: working-class crew jobs and studios moving to places like NJ
  9. 30:40 – 37:16

    New York vs. LA psychology: attention, money, and ‘American Psycho’ motivations

    They zoom out into cultural anthropology: what drives people in major cities and how that shapes community. LA becomes the “attention economy,” New York the “money economy,” and both are framed as responses to insecurity—just expressed differently.

    • LA as ‘attention to fix childhood,’ NYC as ‘money to fix childhood’
    • Why New York still celebrates niche excellence (skaters, street artists) more readily
    • Entertainment industry distortions in LA: status follows what’s “hot,” not what’s best
    • How community bubbles form and why certain subcultures thrive in NYC
  10. 37:16 – 48:29

    Pool culture deep dive: hustling rules, aliases, and the art of getting someone ‘on the hook’

    They go all-in on pool as a hidden ecosystem with its own ethics and language. From famous hustlers to weight/spot negotiations, they explain why deception can be “part of the fun” among insiders—but becomes dangerous when used on naïve ‘lemons.’

    • How hustling works: losing early, raising stakes, then turning it on
    • Negotiating ‘weight’ (spots) like giving the 8-ball, wild vs. call-shot
    • Aliases and legends: Efren Reyes/Cesar Morales, Wade Crane/Billy Johnson
    • Ethics line: hustling gamblers vs. exploiting amateurs (‘lemons’ can retaliate)
  11. 48:29 – 56:12

    Mastery hobbies as mental health: pool mechanics, flow states, and humility through losing

    From cue technique and long-session endurance, the talk broadens into why difficult hobbies matter—especially for successful people. They compare pool, archery, jiu-jitsu, and padel as ‘truth’ activities: you either execute or you don’t, and that keeps the ego in check.

    • Skill mechanics: light grip, slip stroke, ‘throwing the cue,’ cue-ball control
    • Long-format matches (first to 100/120) and endurance/concentration as weapons
    • Why non-monetized mastery hobbies stabilize artists and public figures
    • Losing as resilience training; danger of never learning to lose
  12. 56:12 – 1:04:59

    Parenting, gender differences, and raising kids without forcing ambition

    They discuss childhood stardom, stage parents, and the risks of engineering a child into a ‘project.’ Joe and Andrew emphasize supporting a kid’s authentic interests, while also joking about how boys and girls often socialize differently in early childhood.

    • Why child stars often struggle: identity, pressure, and warped development
    • Stage parents and the non-merit realities of child acting ecosystems
    • Parenting philosophy: support ambition without imposing your own
    • Observed early differences in how older girls vs. boys treat younger kids
  13. 1:04:59 – 1:14:30

    Fight world tangent: Jon Jones vs. Pereira hype, fighter injuries, and Conor’s promoter ‘final form’

    They pivot to MMA: Jon Jones’ fight strategy as “pool hustling,” Pereira’s pressure and setups, and the reality that fighters are rarely healthy. Conor McGregor’s BKFC persona becomes the punchline—part hype, part performance art.

    • Jon Jones as a strategist: controlling narrative, staying unpredictable
    • Alex Pereira fight breakdown: pressure, stance switching, timing, and power
    • Camp reality: injuries/illness are constant; excuses vs. truth in fighting
    • Conor as elite promoter—charisma vs. substances, and why it sells
  14. 1:14:30 – 3:36:05

    War, opinions, and free speech: Trump’s leverage, Saudi comedy, bots, and UK speech policing

    The conversation merges geopolitics with media dynamics: ceasefires, Israel/Lebanon strikes, and whether Americans can speak on what they fund. They then connect online manipulation (bots and campaigns) to cultural backlash, and close on free speech contrasts—especially the UK’s speech enforcement and the importance of American legal protections.

    • Trump/Netanyahu/Hamas dynamics framed as transactional leverage politics
    • ‘We’re funding it, we get an opinion’ vs. claims people should stay silent
    • Saudi performances and selective outrage; backlash cycles and waiting them out
    • Organized online campaigns, bot amplification, and narrative warfare
    • UK enforcement examples (incitement vs. speech) and why definitions matter
    • American free speech as exceptional—and worth protecting against global trends

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