Joe Rogan Experience #2399 - Daryl Davis & Jeff Schoep

Daryl Davis is a blues musician, race relations expert, and author of several books, including "The Klan Whisperer." Jeff Schoep led America's largest neo-Nazi organization, the National Socialist Movement, for nearly three decades before renouncing its ideology. He is the author of "American Nazi: From Hate to Humanity." https://www.daryldavis.com https://www.jeffschoep.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Don’t miss out on all the action - Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up at https://dkng.co/rogan or with my promo code ROGAN. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit https://gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit https://ccpg.org (CT), or visit https://www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in NH/OR/ONT. Eligibility restrictions apply. Terms: https://draftkings.com/sportsbook. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). Fees may apply in IL. 1 per new customer. Must register new account to receive reward Token. Must select Token BEFORE placing min. $5 bet to receive $300 in Bonus Bets if your bet wins. Min. -500 odds req. Token and Bonus Bets are single-use and non-withdrawable. Token expires 11/23/25. Bonus Bets expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 11/16/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://BetterHelp.com/JRE

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Oct 23, 20252h 17mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: October 23, 2025
Duration: 2h 17m
Channel: The Joe Rogan Experience
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Daryl Davis is a blues musician, race relations expert, and author of several books, including "The Klan Whisperer." Jeff Schoep led America's largest neo-Nazi organization, the National Socialist Movement, for nearly three decades before renouncing its ideology. He is the author of "American Nazi: From Hate to Humanity." https://www.daryldavis.com https://www.jeffschoep.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Don’t miss out on all the action - Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up at https://dkng.co/rogan or with my promo code ROGAN. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit https://gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit https://ccpg.org (CT), or visit https://www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in NH/OR/ONT. Eligibility restrictions apply. Terms: https://draftkings.com/sportsbook. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). Fees may apply in IL. 1 per new customer. Must register new account to receive reward Token. Must select Token BEFORE placing min. $5 bet to receive $300 in Bonus Bets if your bet wins. Min. -500 odds req. Token and Bonus Bets are single-use and non-withdrawable. Token expires 11/23/25. Bonus Bets expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 11/16/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://BetterHelp.com/JRE

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Joe Rogan
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Daryl Davis
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EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Jeff Schoep and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan Experience #2399 - Daryl Davis & Jeff Schoep explores former Neo-Nazi Commander Reveals How Conversation Defeats Violent Extremism Joe Rogan speaks with Daryl Davis, a Black musician known for befriending Ku Klux Klan members, and Jeff Schoep, the former commander of the largest neo‑Nazi group in the U.S. They trace Jeff’s path from fourth‑grade fascination with Nazism to 27 years of leadership in the National Socialist Movement, and then his eventual de‑radicalization and public renunciation of hate. Daryl explains his method of engaging extremists through patience, curiosity, and respect, emphasizing shared human values rather than direct ideological combat. Together they outline how fear, identity loss, echo chambers, and demographic anxiety fuel extremism—and how genuine relationships and new purpose can pull people out.

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