The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #2426 - Cameron Hanes & Adam Greentree
CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 0:19
Cold open + catching up with the “lobby mountain lion”
The episode kicks off with Joe welcoming Cameron Hanes and Adam Greentree back, immediately jumping into the mounted mountain lion in the lobby. They set the tone as “bowhunting brothers,” teasing the story behind the cat and the fact that they ate it.
- 0:19 – 4:09
Adam’s Colorado mountain lion hunt: dogs, ethics, and a brutal livestock kill
Adam recounts how lion hunting with dogs works—treeing the cat so it can be aged/sexed and hunted legally. The story turns dark when he describes finding a lion actively eating a live cow, which shifts his mindset from “sport” to urgent predator control.
- 4:09 – 6:27
Predator-prey is happening everywhere: feral cats, ‘war’ in nature, and balance
Joe zooms out into a broader point: modern life insulates people from the constant violence of ecosystems. A small moment—watching a feral cat hunt a mouse—becomes a metaphor for how predator-prey interactions are nonstop and essential to balance.
- 6:27 – 8:53
Why predator management exists: Colorado quotas and Japan’s bear crisis
Cameron explains how tightly Colorado manages lion harvest via quotas and data collection. Joe contrasts that with Japan, where declining hunter participation contributes to emergency-level brown bear attacks and military involvement.
- 8:53 – 11:27
Japan field story: stumbling into huge brown bear sign while bowhunting
Adam shares a personal Japan hunt where he unknowingly entered brown bear country. Discovering a ravaged sika carcass and massive tracks—and later seeing gruesome evidence from a man-eating bear incident—drives home how quickly things can go sideways in wild places.
- 11:27 – 16:54
California mountain lions: depredation numbers, hidden kills, and pets as prey
The conversation shifts to California’s approach: no general lion hunting but frequent depredation removals. Joe and Cam try to pin down the numbers, arguing that regulated hunting could match removal totals while generating revenue and utilizing meat.
- 16:54 – 20:20
Sponsor break: ExpressVPN
A mid-episode ad read focuses on online privacy and security. Joe pitches ExpressVPN’s encryption, IP masking, and promotional pricing.
- 20:20 – 32:59
Up-close lion reality: sneakiness, rare sightings, and the runner-chased video
They emphasize how rarely people actually see mountain lions—and how that rarity leads to public misunderstanding. The centerpiece is a video of Cameron’s brother describing a lion stalking and chasing him at night near suburban California.
- 32:59 – 49:33
Urban voting vs wilderness reality: dogs, baiting, and selecting the “right” animal
Joe and Cam argue that practices that sound cruel (dogs for lions, baiting bears) can be the most selective and management-friendly. They frame the core challenge as educating non-hunters who vote on wildlife policy without understanding field realities.
- 49:33 – 1:08:17
The ‘fake world’ vs the wild: purpose, contentment, and voluntary suffering
The episode pivots into a philosophy discussion: modern life feels artificial compared to the primal clarity of survival tasks. They link mental health, anxiety, and meaning to exertion, nature exposure, and choosing difficult challenges on purpose.
- 1:08:17 – 1:17:47
Peak moments compared: Adesanya’s speech vs the elk pack-out high
Joe plays Israel Adesanya’s post-fight speech about earning profound happiness through adversity. Cameron contrasts that arena peak with his own peak: the brutal, joyful satisfaction of a successful backcountry elk pack-out with trusted “mountain men.”
- 1:17:47 – 1:26:04
High-stakes bowhunting scenarios: steep-angle shots, dense forests, and elk sounds
Cameron revisits a dramatic Arizona shot taken steeply downward off a cliff, then talks about how unpredictable scenarios create the sport’s “magic.” They also riff on Oregon’s thick “Jurassic Park” terrain and the visceral impact of elk vocalizations.
- 1:26:04 – 1:56:51
Precision and ethics in the moment: wind, sun, slow movement, and tough animals
They break down stalking and shot execution details from a sable hunt, emphasizing how ‘everything matters’—wind, thermals, glare, noise, and animal behavior. The discussion expands into animal toughness, blood trails, calm kills, and how adrenaline affects outcomes (and possibly meat).
- 1:56:51 – 2:01:54
Tree stands, cold misery, and why modern layering/gear changed the game
Joe describes the mental grind of sitting motionless in freezing tree-stand conditions, contrasting it with the mobility of mountain hunting. Cam explains how modern gear—heated layers and well-designed systems like Sitka—dramatically improves comfort without sacrificing draw mobility.
- 2:01:54 – 2:05:46
Optics, stabilization, and the tech arms race—plus the ‘line’ (Garmin, OnX, thermals)
They praise breakthroughs like image-stabilized binoculars and mapping tools that improve safety and effectiveness. Then they argue over where technology stops being “helpful” and starts undermining fair chase—especially thermals that reveal hidden animals instantly.
- 2:05:46 – 2:47:30
Archery history and evolution: releases, judging distance, and old-school accuracy
Joe and Cam nerd out on the origins of archery releases and how shooters used to estimate distance purely by feel. They compare old pins, early rangefinders, and the difficulty of shooting slower bows—highlighting how skill and repetition used to compensate for lack of tech.
- 2:47:30 – 2:52:30
Training for longevity: hypoxic rooms, better cardio tools, and ‘prime’ at 50+
They explore how modern training, recovery, and wellness tech can let older hunters perform at a high level. Adam explains building a hypoxic (altitude-simulated) gym room, and Joe raves about new conditioning tools like the StepR bike and the compounding advantages of science plus experience.
- 2:52:30 – 3:08:34
Peptides, stem cells, and distrust of institutions—then season takeaways to close
The final stretch turns into a skeptical critique of medical gatekeeping, FDA incentives, and pharma influence, with BPC-157 and stem cells as examples of contested but popular interventions. They end by sharing what each learned this hunting season—conditioning, health, and finding purpose in helping others succeed.
