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Joe Rogan Experience #2426 - Cameron Hanes & Adam Greentree

Cameron Hanes is a master bowhunter, outdoorsman, elite athlete, author, and a host of the podcasts “Keep Hammering Collective," "Sh*t Talkers Weekly," and "Lift. Run. Shoot." His most recent book is "Undeniable: How to Reach the Top and Stay There." https://www.cameronhanes.com https://www.youtube.com/@cameronhanes https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250365941/undeniable/ Adam Greentree is an Australian bowhunter, photographer, outdoorsman, and entrepreneur. https://www.youtube.com/@adamgreentree_official https://www.atlaswild.com.au Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Go to https://ExpressVPN.com/ROGANYT to get 4 months free Don’t miss out on all the action - Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up at https://dkng.co/rogan or with my promo code ROGAN GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit https://gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit https://ccpg.org (CT), or visit https://www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). Pass-thru of per wager tax may apply in IL. 1 per new customer. Must register new account to receive reward Token. Must select Token BEFORE placing min. $5 bet to receive $200 in Bonus Bets if your bet wins. Min. -500 odds req. Token and Bonus Bets are single-use and non-withdrawable. Token expires 1/11/26. Bonus Bets expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 1/4/26 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK.

Adam GreentreeguestJoe RoganhostCameron Hanesguest
Dec 16, 20253h 8mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:000:19

    Cold open + catching up with the “lobby mountain lion”

    1. NA

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    2. NA

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hey.

    3. AG

      We're live?

    4. NA

      We're live.

    5. AG

      Hey.

    6. JR

      Gentlemen, what's happening?

    7. AG

      (laughs) What is going on?

    8. JR

      Good to see ya. Good to see you guys again.

    9. AG

      Bow hunting brothers.

  2. 0:194:09

    Adam’s Colorado mountain lion hunt: dogs, ethics, and a brutal livestock kill

    1. JR

      You know, we were just talking about the mountain lion that we have in the lobby, and how insane that thing is. So Adam, you shot that mountain lion when?

    2. AG

      I think it was about six or seven years ago now.

    3. JR

      And you ate it, and I ate some of it. You sent some to me. It's really good, believe it or not, ladies and gentlemen.

    4. AG

      You wouldn't think so, but it's incredible. I-

    5. JR

      Everybody says it's like ... They, they, the way they describe it is like a sup- I think Rinella said this, a superior pork.

    6. AG

      Yeah. Yeah. It's like ... I, I think of it as a cross between venison and chicken. And then ... And I only did a quick on the barbecue, and I'm not a great cook, but it was that tender and that tasty.

    7. JR

      But the, the story behind the mountain lion's nuts. Like, that was a, like a murderous mountain lion-

    8. AG

      Mm.

    9. JR

      ... that-

    10. AG

      It was ... I felt a bit funny about it to start with, because like the dogs do all the hunting, right? The dogs smell it, dogs find it, they put it up in a tree, but the further I looked into it, I'm like, well, you need the tree 'cause you wanna sex it, and you wanna age it, you know? You wanna make sure it's a lion that's, you know, old, and it has to be a male to shoot it in Colorado, at least at the time you had to, anyway. So, it was actually the perfect way to hunt, but then seeing how destructive that individual lion was, at least, um, I was telling Cam about this when we got here, that it must've grabbed the cow, like a beef cow. It must've grabbed it on the neck. Um, and the cow couldn't move, you know, but it was still fully alive internally, and vocally it was still alive, and when we got there, the mountain lion was like eating it from its rear end-

    11. JR

      (exhales)

    12. AG

      And it'd been there for at least an hour or two, because there was quite a lot of meat that had been eaten out from the cow's ass.

    13. JR

      Oh.

    14. AG

      And, um- Kicking its hooves. Yeah, and it just ... But it ... The cow couldn't get up, so it was f- it was literally eating it while it was still alive-

    15. JR

      (exhales)

    16. AG

      And as the dogs were running down there, you could hear this cow off in the distance just like screaming, like mooing flat out.

    17. JR

      Oh.

    18. AG

      And you could tell something was wrong. The dogs got there. The lion ran off. Um, we end up calling the rancher in. The rancher come out, put the cow out of its misery. Still screaming on the ground right in front of me. I was ... Uh, hey, I was teared up, like, you know-

    19. JR

      Oh, God.

    20. AG

      Like, I don't like suffering, like the next person. Um, so it was a very horrible moment. So then it was like, n- now I'm into it. Like, now I'm into finding this lion and-

    21. JR

      Brothers. It's, it's like a werewolf's loose in your town.

    22. AG

      Mm-hmm. Yeah.

    23. JR

      You know? Having a ... That ... How much did that cat weigh, by the way?

    24. AG

      I-

    25. JR

      By the way, as in weight.

    26. AG

      I, I held it up for size, and um, I could hold it for maybe 30 seconds, and I literally couldn't hold it up anymore, and I was trying to show the size of, you know, how big that lion was.

    27. JR

      It looks like it's at least 150 pounds, right?

    28. AG

      Yeah. It's giant, so it's like- I'd say 170.

    29. JR

      170? That's what you think it would be-

    30. AG

      Yeah, I would think.

  3. 4:096:27

    Predator-prey is happening everywhere: feral cats, ‘war’ in nature, and balance

    1. JR

      It's just fascinating that all these different creatures exist with us, 'cause we're so insulated for the most part, like most people are so insulated living in cities, traveling on buses and planes and cars, and never-

    2. AG

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JR

      ... never seeing a thing like this in real life.

    4. AG

      Mm-hmm.

    5. JR

      And you realize, like at the same time while you're going to Starbucks and, you know, you're, you're picking out the new iPhone, th- there's a lion running full speed at a herd of zebras right now.

    6. AG

      Mm-hmm. (laughs) Yeah.

    7. JR

      Like, right now in the world-

    8. AG

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      ... there's a lion full speed at the zebra, and it's gonna tackle it, and it's gonna grab it by its face, and all these animals exist to keep each other in check.

    10. AG

      Mm-hmm.

    11. JR

      That's the real beauty of nature. And when you really see it when ... We saw that ... We were out yesterday, Cam and I were, we were hunting for pigs, and we saw a feral cat-

    12. AG

      Oh.

    13. JR

      ... make a pounce on a mouse.

    14. AG

      Oh, shit. (laughs)

    15. JR

      Like, we were in the perfect ... It was one of the coolest things.

    16. AG

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      'Cause even though like, it's a kitty cat. Meow. Like a little, tiny kitty cat.

    18. AG

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      Little f- it was fluffy, too. It was kinda-

    20. AG

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      ... cute. We watched a predator in the rare moment when you see him executing a kill. I mean, it was only a feral cat-

    22. AG

      Yeah, yeah. This is cool.

    23. JR

      ... but it was still ... We saw, we saw his little butt wiggle. We saw that thing that they do-

    24. AG

      Getting excited.

    25. JR

      ... where they get ding and then up in the air.

    26. AG

      (laughs)

    27. JR

      And went-

    28. AG

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      Like, that is cool. It was so wild, which-

    30. AG

      And th- and tha- that's going on multiple places throughout o- on our planet right n- you know-

  4. 6:278:53

    Why predator management exists: Colorado quotas and Japan’s bear crisis

    1. CH

      Yeah. That, uh... To, to Adam's point about his lion in Colorado. It's so managed, um, that, that, that animal actually probably could have been killed off, uh... Like, because it was killing livestock.

    2. AG

      Yeah, yeah.

    3. CH

      You know? But when you kill an a- a lion in Colorado, it's very detailed, very documented and tracked. It's like you can only take... Like, in the unit I was hunting lion, I didn't kill one, but you could only kill 35 in the year.

    4. JR

      Yep.

    5. CH

      And every time a lion comes in, they, they catalog it, check it, um, get it... You know, all the information in there, and then that's one of the 35. Once you reach the 35 quota, you're done.

    6. AG

      You're done. So, yeah.

    7. JR

      So, let's put this in perspective, because if that doesn't happen... And by the way, all that money goes back to the state, goes to game wardens. It helps everybody, helps conservation. If you don't have that, you know what you have? You have what's going on in Japan.

    8. AG

      Hmm.

    9. JR

      Where Japan is having massive brown bear attacks. So just last year, they had a kill, I think it was 1,000... It's at least 1,000. I think it was more than 1,000 bears last year.

    10. CH

      Right.

    11. JR

      And this year is projected to be even higher than last year. So the bears at the fucking military-

    12. AG

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      ... has to go in and o- They're having a war on giant brown bears.

    14. CH

      That are killing, I don't know how many people already this year.

    15. JR

      A shit ton.

    16. CH

      Yeah, yeah.

    17. JR

      A shit ton.

    18. AG

      They, they are-

    19. JR

      So when you put that into Perplexity, our sponsor, how many people have been killed in Japan by grizzly bears? Or, well, they're not grizzly bears, but they're essentially brown bears.

    20. AG

      They're, they're a type of brown bear, yeah.

    21. JR

      They're a brown bear. Record surge of brown bear attacks in 2025, with at least 13 fatalities and over 200 injuries. Holy fuck! Make- making it the deadliest year for bear attacks in recent history. Majority of fatal attacks have occurred in Ho- Hodok... How do you say that?

    22. AG

      Hokkaido.

    23. JR

      Hokkaido, Hokkaido, where brown bears are more prevalent, and the number of attacks has prompted emergency responses, including the deployment of military personnel in some regions. Dude, I've been hearing people in Montana and people in Wyoming that have been saying, "We're seeing more brown bears than ever before." Guys who are going on elk hunts and getting freaked out.

    24. AG

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      And like, they have to de-list these fucking things.

    26. AG

      Mm-hmm.

    27. JR

      Like, they are totally fearless. They, they've never been hunted.

    28. AG

      Hmm.

    29. JR

      So they have no fear of humans. How many guys have you heard where the gun goes off and the bear shows up after the gun goes off-

    30. AG

      Yeah.

  5. 8:5311:27

    Japan field story: stumbling into huge brown bear sign while bowhunting

    1. AG

      I flew into Hokai- kaido. Japan had a period where they would let foreigners hunt, and it had to be with a bow. And I was chasing seek- sika stags over there, and I had no idea they had a brown bear at all. (laughs) And, uh, I was going through this big reedy area, like, you know, the reeds are up above your head, and there was just a game trail going in there, like wh- that the deer had been using. And as I was going through there, I could see that it was, it was starting to open up a little bit more, like a flattened-out section, maybe like, uh, where the deer had been bedded. And I got in there, and there was a sika deer just like the rib cage all chewed out, and it was just a big muddy clearing, where this brown bear had got in there and just like rolled around with this carcass. But the prints in the mud were like that.

    2. CH

      Oh, my word.

    3. AG

      I had no i- Like, I had no idea there was even bears there. So I'm getting-

    4. JR

      Wait a minute. What year is this?

    5. AG

      Uh, it'd have to be 10 or 11 years ago now.

    6. JR

      But Google is still around, right?

    7. AG

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      You didn't check? You didn't go, "Hey, what's in the area before I even thought about it?"

    9. CH

      I didn't even wonder about it. I wouldn't thought about it.

    10. AG

      I started messaging the outfitter and being like, "Dude, there's bears here."

    11. JR

      Look at that bear.

    12. AG

      Yeah. And then he thu- he started telling me that the- it's some of the biggest brown bears there is.

    13. JR

      Bro, that bear fucked up that guy's hood. Look at this.

    14. AG

      Oh, yeah. That's a big, that's a big bear.

    15. CH

      Yeah.

    16. AG

      But the police force, 'cause I believe there was an unarmed police force at the time, they had an issue with a bear where it had killed two hunters there, and he had to go in and shoot this bear. He had photos on a tractor, and I don't do the gruesome photos, but he's just flicking through his phone, and the next photo is a guy with his face missing from this brown bear attack. And another photo, the bear... When they, when he went in to shoot the bear, the bear was in a stream holding the guy down in the water, eating him in the water.

    17. JR

      Oh.

    18. AG

      And it like... So, yeah, pretty gruesome.

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. AG

      So it was pretty full on. But up until that point, I never even knew there was a brown bear in Japan.

    21. CH

      Mm-hmm.

    22. JR

      Bro, before you go someplace with a bow-

    23. AG

      It makes sense.

    24. JR

      ... do a, do a cursory internet search.

    25. CH

      (laughs) Yeah.

    26. AG

      I'm from Australia, like come on.

    27. JR

      You know, even if it's... You guys have the internet. Shut the fuck up.

    28. AG

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      You were telling me some startling things going by.

    30. CH

      No, they're, they're way, they're way behind in Australia, though.

  6. 11:2716:54

    California mountain lions: depredation numbers, hidden kills, and pets as prey

    1. CH

      Another, another layer to that Japan story is, the reason why they have to deploy the military is 'cause all the hunters are aging out. So, there was hunters there.

    2. AG

      Yeah. Huh.

    3. CH

      But because hunting is kind of like this dying thing-

    4. AG

      Hmm.

    5. CH

      ... for this next generation-

    6. AG

      Ah.

    7. CH

      ... there's not enough hunters. So they have to get the military involved. Otherwise, it would be hunters like, you know, you going over there and... They've talked about, like...I mean, I know there's Americans who would volunteer to do it. But, that's another part of it is, um, this next generation just isn't hunting. I have another question. Jamie, put this into Perplexity, please. Um, how many mountain lions were killed with depredation tags in 2024 in California? 'Cause what I had read, o- on a forum, so it has to be correct. (laughs) Must be true.

    8. JR

      'Cause those guys are all experts.

    9. CH

      Oh, yeah, they're dialed in.

    10. JR

      Uh, I had read that an equal number of mountain lions had been killed with depredation tags by like experts with dogs, like they bring them in, than if they gave the tags out.

    11. CH

      Hmm.

    12. JR

      So, if they had given tags out and let people mountain lion hunt, you would have the exact same amount of mountain lions that they had to kill.

    13. CH

      Hmm.

    14. JR

      And instead of that, you would have revenue.

    15. CH

      Yeah. Money going-

    16. JR

      Yeah. Instead of paying. Instead of paying. Instead of the opposite.

    17. CH

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      Right, instead of paying.

    19. NA

      And the collection of the meat, obviously.

    20. JR

      All right. California's not yet published a full 2025 total, but the best available data as of July 2025 shows at least a 167 mountain lions reported taken under depredation permits in 2020, and 166 in 2022, with annual totals of over 100 in recent years. So, every year they have to kill- kill at least 100 mountain lions.

    21. CH

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      Probably quite a bit more. It looks like 67 more, 66 more.

    23. CH

      And I would say it's only went up since then.

    24. JR

      Yeah, well, th- the thing is like they're doing nothing to curb the population.

    25. CH

      Mm-hmm.

    26. JR

      And this is, the thing is like people go, "Oh, it's okay. Let nature do its thing." No, it doesn't do its thing. It kills your dog. Okay?

    27. CH

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      One of the things they found out in San Francisco, in the Bay Area, was when they do shoot these mountain lions, they've done an analysis of their diet. It's 50% dogs and cats.

    29. CH

      Wow.

    30. JR

      50% of their diet is eating people's pets.

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    2. CH

      I think they-

    3. JR

      Oh, it says... Oh, oh. It say, k- okay. It says of the permits, 52 were authorized to kill them. So it says lethal take. So it's authorized to kill them. And 20 were actually reported as lethally killed.

    4. CH

      So-

    5. JR

      So they're saying it's only 20.

    6. CH

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      That seems cooky.

    8. CH

      So, but that is, that's for, uh, like a ranch owner to do the killing.

    9. JR

      Okay.

    10. CH

      So they, they say, "Hey, this lion's been killing my calves 480 times." And 222 of those they said, "Okay, go ahead and kill the lion."

    11. JR

      Okay. Right. So this is permits that were released rather than-

    12. CH

      Right.

    13. JR

      ... the agency doing the depredation work.

    14. CH

      Right. Right.

    15. JR

      Okay.

    16. CH

      So you, you would add this total to the other number we have.

    17. JR

      Right. Because the depredation thing too, you gotta think, it's ranchers. Right?

    18. CH

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      So these guys are all out in the middle of nowhere. A lot of the depredations though that they might be listing is what we were talking about with San Francisco, where they found that they're eating people's cats-

    20. CH

      Yeah.

    21. NA

      Mm-hmm.

    22. JR

      ... and dogs. So maybe they get depredations. It's not like... But you, you can't give it out to the fucking homeowner.

    23. CH

      Yeah.

    24. NA

      No.

    25. JR

      Yeah.

    26. CH

      Yeah. Yeah, see-

    27. NA

      That, that would-

    28. JR

      So you only give those tags out to ranchers-

    29. CH

      Right.

    30. JR

      ... it seems like.

  8. 20:2032:59

    Up-close lion reality: sneakiness, rare sightings, and the runner-chased video

    1. NA

      I've, I've seen maybe two in all the hunting that I've done, just naturally in the wild.

    2. CH

      Mm-hmm.

    3. NA

      And you would have seen more, but it's not a big number.

    4. CH

      Yeah.

    5. NA

      They're out there, but they're just so sneaky, right?

    6. JR

      Oh, they're so fucking sneaky.

    7. CH

      Right.

    8. JR

      We saw one... I told you the story. We saw the one in Utah with Colton.

    9. CH

      Yeah.

    10. NA

      Mm-hmm.

    11. CH

      Yeah, a huge one.

    12. JR

      Like that one.

    13. CH

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      He was like his big as yours. It was fucking terrifying. Inside of a car, 30 yards away, and I'm shitting my pants.

    15. CH

      Yeah. (laughs)

    16. NA

      Not-

    17. JR

      I'm not even... (laughs)

    18. CH

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      And we're armed.

    20. NA

      Yeah, right.

    21. CH

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      You know? And we have bows, we have... (laughs) You know?

    23. CH

      So the, the difference between Oregon and California and Texas, you know, Texas being able to shoot them like coyotes is, that's politics, you know?

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. NA

      Mm-hmm.

    26. CH

      Of course, West Coast is liberal and different.

    27. JR

      Well, Utah changed it though. Utah has it now, like coyotes.

    28. CH

      Perfect.

    29. JR

      Yeah.

    30. NA

      Yeah.

  9. 32:5949:33

    Urban voting vs wilderness reality: dogs, baiting, and selecting the “right” animal

    1. JR

      I guarantee you're not out there as much as you are or you are. That's the difference between people that really understand what we're talking about, and people that are looking at this from this knee-jerk love and compassion for nature r- perspective. Like-

    2. AG

      Well, back to what Cam said. It's like, the- the majority of the votes are people that don't get in that environment.

    3. JR

      Yeah.

    4. AG

      You know, and it's not just about hunting. That's for farmers anywhere, as well. There's people in the city that are making votes for people that live in the country, and the lifestyle is completely different.

    5. JR

      And they don't understand what they're talking about, especially the BC ban. "Look, we're gonna ban trophy hunting. Trophy hunting's bad."

    6. AG

      Mm-hmm.

    7. JR

      Now, but what about monster control?

    8. AG

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      Isn't that good? I'm on fucking team people, okay?

    10. AG

      Yeah. (laughs)

    11. (laughs)

    12. JR

      I love animals, but I am on team people. You know?

    13. AG

      Imagine if they knew how soft we were, they don't have to spit out hair.

    14. JR

      No. (laughs)

    15. AG

      (laughs) Yeah.

    16. Like, the flesh is right here. It's soft. It's so easy to get into.

    17. JR

      Our stomach? Because they usually go in at the stomach, you know, or the abs.

    18. AG

      Oh, it's a soft bit.

    19. JR

      It's like our stomach, how soft does our-

    20. AG

      Straight for the organs. (laughs)

    21. JR

      Yeah, that's right. Right to the good stuff, you know? Yeah. Not good. And it's like-

    22. AG

      If they knew-

    23. JR

      Even-

    24. AG

      ... not good.

    25. JR

      I don't think people ... Like, even a dog can turn into, like ... Uh, I killed a buck, you know, before we went on that last hunt. I killed a buck and, like, for the treat for the dog, you cut off the nuts, give them the nuts. So it's got hide on it, it's got the- the buck's nuts, basically.

    26. AG

      Mm-hmm.

    27. JR

      Dog takes off, so they're just, like, ripping into it. It's like delicacy, right? That's just a normal dog.

    28. AG

      Mm-hmm.

    29. JR

      So, a lion who's born and bred to kill, I mean, that's just the level of what animals-

    30. AG

      Yeah.

  10. 49:331:08:17

    The ‘fake world’ vs the wild: purpose, contentment, and voluntary suffering

    1. CH

      Yeah. Is- isn't it weird to think that, uh... I mean, most society doesn't know anything about the wild these days, you know what I mean?

    2. JR

      Yeah. We're domesticated.

    3. CH

      Yeah. So it's... But even, like... I don't know. I, I always say that... And I mean, we talked about this, I'm pretty sure, 'cause I talk about it all the time. But, like, I always think that society, like, this regular life here is fake. It's like it's not even, not even real, it's not even how humans were designed to, to live and survive.

    4. AG

      Mm-hmm.

    5. CH

      Where the wild is actually where... that's how, that's what we're designed to do, live in the mountains or, or hunt and survive, things like that. And so the fake life, I don't know, it's just crazy to me to think about that-

    6. JR

      The fake life is what we think of as the real life.

    7. CH

      Yeah, is the real life.

    8. AG

      Mm-hmm.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. CH

      And it's not, it's not real. It's, like, what we're doing, yeah, it's just not, not real life.

    11. AG

      We're, we're, yeah. We're, we're made to live in a society that's not by mind or your design.

    12. CH

      Right.

    13. AG

      You know? And it's sort of like... And that, that's... I always feel out of it in society because I just feel like it's not for me. But it is, it's here and we got to live in it. I do like going to the rest of the world and getting a good injection. (laughs)

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. CH

      (laughs)

    16. AG

      So... But I just want to go when I want to go, right? (laughs)

    17. JR

      Yeah, that's the s- that's the way to do it. Attack it from the outside.

    18. CH

      Yeah.

    19. AG

      Mm-hmm.

    20. JR

      Go in, go to a nice restaurant, get back out to the country.

    21. AG

      Yeah.

    22. CH

      Right.

    23. JR

      And just fucking relax.

    24. AG

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      It's better for people. You ever see that, um, sp- uh, the old days of Vice, when Vice used to do really cool stuff?

    26. AG

      Mm-hmm.

    27. JR

      They had Vice Guide to Travel. And, uh, there's this one guy who lives in the Arctic Circle and this dude is... He's been there since the 1970s. He got a job up there and got permitted where he's, like, grandfathered in to allow to live in a small cabin up there, like the last guy there. He has, like, a permit on his door.

    28. AG

      Mm-hmm.

    29. JR

      And this guy has been living up there ever since... He saw 9/11 in a photograph, like, a year after it happened.

    30. AG

      Mm-hmm.

  11. 1:08:171:17:47

    Peak moments compared: Adesanya’s speech vs the elk pack-out high

    1. JR

      Do you remember Israel Adesanya's speech after he knocked out Pereira?

    2. NA

      Yes.

    3. CH

      What'd he say?

    4. JR

      He, he goes, "I wish," and he goes, "People of the world, I w-" Play it. Let's play it, because it's fucking amazing.

    5. NA

      Yeah, it's unreal. Yeah.

    6. JR

      It's fucking amazing.

    7. CH

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      So, this is Alex Pereira. This is the guy that had beaten him three times.

    9. CH

      Three times, yeah.

    10. JR

      Knocked him out in kickboxing. Knocked him out in MMA, and then finally he knocked him out.

    11. CH

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      And this was like, everybody was, like, terrified of him taking this rematch. "Pereira can't be stopped. Pereira's a destroyer. He's the scariest guy ever." But he asked me to, to give him the microphone.

    13. NA

      And new-

    14. JR

      Look at that.

    15. NA

      ... champion of the world-

    16. NA

      (laughs)

    17. NA

      ... Israel "The Last Stylebender" Pereira!

    18. NA

      (laughs) What a human.

    19. NA

      Oh, my God!

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. CH

      Yeah, I love Stylebender.

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