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Joe Rogan Experience #2505 - Tom Segura

Tom Segura is a comedian, actor, author, and restaurateur. He hosts “Your Mom’s House” with his wife, comedian Christina Pazsitzky, and “Two Bears, One Cave” with comedian Bert Kreischer. He is also the owner of Ciccio Bomba, a chain of Italian cafes with three locations in Austin, Texas, and the author of “I’d Like to Play Alone, Please: Essays.” Season two of his series “Bad Thoughts” is streaming on Netflix. https://www.netflix.com/title/81740857 https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/tom-segura/id-like-to-play-alone-please/9781538704615/ https://www.cicciobomba.com https://www.youtube.com/@YMHStudios https://www.ymhstudios.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Get a free welcome kit with your first subscription of AG1 at https://drinkag1.com/joerogan

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May 25, 20262h 44mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:02 – 1:17

    Tom Segura’s ‘Bad Thoughts’ Season 2: absurd sketches, full creative control, and why it works

    Joe opens by raving about Tom Segura’s new season and specific sketches that made him cry laughing. They talk about how rare it is for a show to feel like one person’s brain on screen, and how Netflix’s lack of restraints enables the most unhinged ideas to land.

    • Joe highlights standout sketches (dance episode, Freaky Friday-style premise) without spoiling too much
    • Tom describes the show as the most fun he has creatively
    • Discussion of how unusual it is to get near-total freedom in TV production
    • Kevin Nealon episode as an example of the show’s tone and absurdity
  2. 1:17 – 2:42

    Bert Kreischer’s dance rivalry and the motivation of “unhinged confidence”

    They pivot to Bert’s surprise dance video and how it sparked a competitive back-and-forth. The conversation becomes a broader riff on why Bert’s confidence is simultaneously irritating and impressive—and how it shows up in athletic results.

    • Bert drops a dance video first, turning it into a rivalry
    • Joe and Tom joke about why Bert claiming he’s “better” is so triggering
    • Bert’s athleticism and confidence are linked
    • Bert’s 5K improvement and major weight loss as proof he can execute
  3. 2:42 – 3:47

    Weighted vests, training for hunting season, and the reality of mountain packs

    Joe explains how he uses weighted vests and heavy pack rigs to prepare for hunting and hiking. They compare weights, talk about where the strain hits (neck/shoulders), and why carrying weight transforms conditioning.

    • Weighted vest training: 25–35 lbs for daily walks, up to 90 lbs on a frame pack
    • How added weight changes perceived effort and joint/neck load
    • Why this training is especially useful before hunting season
    • Backcountry hunting pack weights and the logistics of long trips
  4. 3:47 – 5:00

    Texas pig hunting: infestation scale, open season rules, and why they must be culled

    Joe offers to take Tom (and his kids) pig hunting on a Texas lease, describing the state’s massive wild hog problem. They get into reproduction rates, ecological damage, and the unusual ‘any time, any day’ approach to hog hunting.

    • Texas wild hog population estimates and rapid breeding cycles
    • Ecological destruction caused by feral pigs
    • Hog hunting is effectively year-round and can include night vision
    • Safety/ethics and the excitement of introducing kids to hunting
  5. 5:00 – 9:52

    From field to plate: cooking wild hog, trichinosis risks, and Jesse Griffiths’ hunt-butcher-cook school

    Joe explains why wild hog can be delicious but requires careful cooking due to what pigs eat and parasite risk. He praises chef Jesse Griffiths (Dai Due) and describes Griffiths’ ‘New School of Traditional Cookery’ that teaches shooting, butchering, and cooking end-to-end.

    • Wild hog flavor vs. food-safety realities (undercooking and parasites)
    • Dai Due restaurant and Texas wild game menu highlights
    • New School of Traditional Cookery: firearms safety, range work, hunting, butchery, cooking
    • Tom’s enthusiasm for cooking and wanting to do the course
  6. 9:52 – 12:29

    Special-ops pig raids and Tannerite feeder explosions: Texas feral hog warfare

    The pig problem escalates into stories of extreme eradication methods—from organized “mission” style hunts to explosive setups at feeders. Joe describes viral videos and the legal culture in Texas that allows aggressive hog control.

    • Taylor Sheridan’s ranch and bringing in ‘special ops’ style teams to kill pigs
    • Tannerite explosions at feeders and why pigs dominate bait sites
    • Helicopter hunting and the legality of aggressive hog control in Texas
    • Tom reacts to the brutality while agreeing the population is out of control
  7. 12:29 – 30:23

    Dictators and pure sadism: Uday Hussein’s reign of terror (and why it’s ‘modern’ horror)

    Tom shifts to his deep dive into dictators, focusing on Uday Hussein as an unusually sadistic figure. They recount horrific anecdotes, discuss childhood trauma versus innate evil, and marvel at how recent and well-documented this brutality was.

    • Uday as a sadist versus ‘politically motivated’ violence by dictators
    • Examples: random executions, torture, party deaths, intimidation culture
    • Uday’s control over athletics and documented torture of athletes
    • How shockingly contemporary the accounts feel compared to ancient tyrant stories
  8. 30:23 – 39:48

    AI is here: deepfakes, AI OnlyFans, and why students are booing commencement speeches

    After an ad break, the conversation turns to the accelerating realism of AI and the confusion it creates online. They debate whether rejecting AI is naive, what job displacement could look like, and how quickly the “new normal” arrived.

    • AI deception: war footage, deepfakes, and ‘you can’t trust your eyes’ online
    • AI OnlyFans and synthetic personas monetizing attention at scale
    • Students booing pro-AI messages vs. the argument that it’s unavoidable
    • Data centers, power demands, and fears of mass job replacement
  9. 39:48 – 44:06

    When your best work gets called fake: AI accusations, arrogant teachers, and motivation through spite

    They explore the social fallout of AI: people suspecting others of using it, and the emotional sting when real effort is dismissed. The topic broadens into teachers and critics who can derail (or fuel) ambition—especially in comedy and music.

    • Tells for AI-generated writing vs. genuinely strong writers getting accused
    • Tom’s college story: professor claims he didn’t write a freshman paper
    • Joe’s story about his daughter being accused by a tutor
    • How dismissive authority figures can become long-term motivation
  10. 44:06 – 52:40

    The comedy grind: odds of making it, growth vs. stagnation, and disappearing prop/character acts

    Joe and Tom talk about the brutal probability of turning open-mic ambition into a real career. They contrast hard work with misdirected effort, then riff on how comedy styles evolve—prop acts fading, character acts changing, and the outliers who still dominate.

    • How rare it is to go from open mic to professional headliner
    • Why some comics stagnate despite getting on stage constantly
    • Bobcat Goldthwait’s evolution and audience expectations
    • Prop acts: Carrot Top’s monopoly, Otto & George, and Jeff Dunham’s scale
  11. 52:40 – 1:03:31

    UK comedy themes, Ari Shaffir’s ‘Jew,’ and ancient anxieties about masturbation (Kabbalah demon lore)

    They compare US and UK comedy structures, especially the Edinburgh-style “one theme for an hour” challenge. That leads into Ari Shaffir’s themed special and a long tangent on religious rules around masturbation—escalating into Kabbalah folklore about demon pregnancies.

    • Edinburgh festival encourages long-form themed shows
    • Ari Shaffir’s ‘Jew’ as a successful themed special and its origins
    • Talmudic restrictions and extreme-sounding prohibitions/penances
    • Kabbalah/folklore: the ‘demon woman gets pregnant from semen’ story
  12. 1:03:31 – 1:13:25

    Noah’s Ark claims and the Durupinar site: radar scans, tourism incentives, and flood-story origins

    Joe brings up alleged modern evidence for Noah’s Ark in Turkey, including ground-penetrating radar and soil tests. They weigh scientific uncertainty against how compelling the location and shape seem—then argue flood myths may come from local disasters later scaled into scripture.

    • Durupinar formation discovery history and claims of ‘boat-like’ dimensions
    • Newer GPR/ERT/LIDAR analysis and disputed interpretation
    • Tourism/PR pressures vs. genuine curiosity about an ancient vessel
    • Flood narratives as local events mythologized into universal stories
  13. 1:13:25 – 1:17:31

    Catastrophe geology: Younger Dryas impact theory, megaflood evidence, and Jupiter as Earth’s “bodyguard”

    They expand from flood myths to large-scale Earth-shaping events, citing Randall Carlson’s arguments about rapid canyon carving and megaflood markers. The conversation touches on comet threats, crater evidence, and why many cultures independently preserve flood legends.

    • Younger Dryas impact theory and rapid climate disruption concepts
    • Megaflood landforms (e.g., Columbia River / scabland-style features)
    • Great Lakes as remnants of glacial systems and massive meltwater dynamics
    • Jupiter’s gravitational role in reducing impact risk
  14. 1:17:31 – 1:21:29

    Deep ocean mysteries: ‘moving domes,’ undersea UFO bases, and James Cameron’s Mariana Trench dive

    A strange Google Earth ‘two-mile dome’ claim becomes a springboard into undersea UFO theories and the limits of ocean mapping. They argue the ocean is the perfect place for an advanced base—then pivot to James Cameron’s record-setting deep dive and the alien-like life found below.

    • Skepticism about Google Earth ocean data and how seafloor maps are made
    • Theory: extraterrestrials operating from deep ocean locations
    • James Cameron’s solo dive and what 36,000 feet underwater implies
    • Deep-sea biodiversity and how little of the ocean is truly understood
  15. 1:21:29 – 1:37:42

    Titan sub disaster lessons, carbon fiber obsession, and the ‘fun vs fast’ philosophy of car collecting

    They dissect the Titan sub implosion as a case study in ego-driven engineering and unsafe material choices. That rolls into why people love carbon fiber aesthetically, and a long car-nerd segment about collections, old vs modern performance, and what makes a car genuinely fun.

    • Titan sub: weight/cost tradeoffs, whistleblowers, and carbon fiber risks
    • Why carbon fiber appeals (looks ‘future’) despite poor crash/repair realities
    • Private mega-collections where cars rarely get driven
    • Fun vs fast: convertibles, muscle cars, Porsches, and emotional driving experiences
  16. 1:37:42 – 2:44:28

    Back to comedy & culture wars: working new hours, Netflix freedom, Canada’s MAID program, and outrage at institutional incentives

    They circle back to comedy reps and Tom’s plans, then praise Netflix again for letting ‘Bad Thoughts’ exist despite industry pushback. The tone darkens into Canada’s speech politics and medically assisted dying statistics, then continues into extreme suicide stories, fight-fixing talk, insider-trading-in-Congress cynicism, and government provocation narratives—before landing on LA’s decline and wildfire fallout.

    • Tom building a new hour; Joe invites him to perform at the club
    • Netflix as a uniquely permissive platform; actors/agents sometimes refuse material
    • Canada: shifting language norms, free speech concerns, and MAID prevalence
    • Suicide extremes (guillotine timer story), assisted dying ethics, and seasonal depression controversy
    • Combat-sports betting/fight-fixing suspicions (Ray J clip) and ‘insider info’ questions
    • Congress trading, government informants/agent provocateurs, and broader distrust of institutions
    • LA politics and wildfire damage (Altadena/Palisades) as a closing real-world gut punch

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