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Tom Segura’s ‘Bad Thoughts’ Season 2: absurd sketches, full creative control, and why it works
- JRJoe Rogan
Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- TSTom Segura
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
During my day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. Gummy buns.
- TSTom Segura
What's that name?
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I watched, uh, two episodes of the new season.
- TSTom Segura
Oh, thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's ridiculous.
- TSTom Segura
It's great.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so ridiculous, so you.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, that's fair.
- JRJoe Rogan
That show is so you. I don't wanna give anything away, but the, the dance one, I was fucking crying.
- TSTom Segura
[laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
I was crying. And the, uh, Freaky Friday one. [laughs]
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, yeah, I was thinking... [laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God. Oh my God, they're so fun. I-
- TSTom Segura
They're so fun
- JRJoe Rogan
... it seems so fun for you. Like, like-
- TSTom Segura
It's the most fun I have. It's-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like, it's so... It, it is one of the best examples of like, of one mind.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like one person's mind in a show.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Without like a whole bunch of people saying, "Don't do that. Don't do this."
- TSTom Segura
They, they give us, they give us no restraints-
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- TSTom Segura
... in the, in the craziest, greatest sense. Like they really are like, "Do whatever you wanna do." Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
The Kevin Nealon one, the first one was-
- TSTom Segura
Oh, yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... it's so fucking ridiculous. It's so, it's so you.
- TSTom Segura
It's, it's, it's such a great time. The dance one, you know, I went to six rehearsals for that.
- 1:17 – 2:42
Bert Kreischer’s dance rivalry and the motivation of “unhinged confidence”
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, remember when you did the Tom, the Steven Seagal thing?
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, yeah. And I had to do a bunch of rehearsals for that too.
- JRJoe Rogan
For people that hadn't seen it, that's, uh, you and Bert, Bert made a dance video.
- TSTom Segura
A dance video.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like you guys had a competition to see who was the best one.
- TSTom Segura
Well, he just, he was just saying we should all do one. And then, and we were, I was like, "Yeah, okay." And then he just dropped one. So he, there was no like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right
- TSTom Segura
... "Let's both do one." And then he was like, "I'm a better dancer." And I was like, "Eat shit, dude." [laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs] There's something about him saying he's better at something that's infuriating.
- TSTom Segura
I know. It's so crazy. 'Cause it's just, um, it's just like wild un- unhinged confidence, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- TSTom Segura
And the truth is, I gotta give him his credit. He is, he is capable of so much of this stuff too. So some of it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, he's a great athlete
- TSTom Segura
... great. He-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's why he's so confident about stuff
- TSTom Segura
... he dropped, um, he dropped a bunch of weight, and then in our, we did our 5K a few weeks ago for the, the Netflix's joke, we did a 5K again. From last year to this year, he dropped 16 minutes off of his time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Holy shit.
- TSTom Segura
[laughs] I mean, I was like, "Dude"
- JRJoe Rogan
That's crazy.
- TSTom Segura
He dropped 50 pounds too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Can you imagine doing a 5K with a 50-pound vest on?
- TSTom Segura
It's crazy. It's really-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's n- I think about that every time I work out with a vest on, and my vest that I usually work out with is only 25 pounds.
- TSTom Segura
25 pounds.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which is like a normal amount that people lose.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like this is crazy how much harder everything is.
- TSTom Segura
So much harder. Yeah. It's great to wear those on like a hike.
- 2:42 – 3:47
Weighted vests, training for hunting season, and the reality of mountain packs
- JRJoe Rogan
I have a 35-pounder I wear when I walk the dog, and then I have another one that's this, uh, it's an actual, um, backpack frame-
- TSTom Segura
Mm-hmm
- JRJoe Rogan
... that I put plates on it, and I can get it up to 90 pounds.
- TSTom Segura
I did a hike with a 50 on and I had to take that shit off after.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's fucking hard, man.
- TSTom Segura
It's really hard.
- JRJoe Rogan
The 45 pou- I do with one 45-pound plate, so like the backpack itself is probably about four pounds, and then the plate is another 45.
- TSTom Segura
That, that shoulder and neck area just starts to just go on you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. It's rough.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. It's really rough.
- JRJoe Rogan
I do it before hunting season though, 'cause it's like the best thing to prepare you-
- TSTom Segura
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... for actually having a backpack on-
- TSTom Segura
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... in the mountains.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, 'cause you don't realize how... You're carrying a bow, you're carrying your... I don't pack my whole camp on my back.
- TSTom Segura
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like some guys, when they go out into the backcountry for like 8, 10 days, they'll have a 80-pound, 60-pound pack because they've got their food for like a week in there, and then they have like their bedding, and they have like some kind of a shelter.
- TSTom Segura
Do you go hunt like that, like that level?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I don't do that anymore.
- TSTom Segura
Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
I've done it a few times.
- TSTom Segura
You have.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I don't like it. Um-
- TSTom Segura
My boys are hitting me up, like they wanna go hunting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, 'cause I take them shooting, but we just shoot targets.
- 3:47 – 5:00
Texas pig hunting: infestation scale, open season rules, and why they must be culled
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, well we have a lease out here. We can take you pig hunting.
- TSTom Segura
Oh my goodness.
- JRJoe Rogan
They have to kill them. They have so many of them, dude. They're s-
- TSTom Segura
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... they're just, they're... It's the craziest infestation of animals you've ever seen. You hear them in the bushes. [grunting] They sound like demons. They're everywhere. There's so many of them, dude.
- TSTom Segura
That's crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Texas has millions and millions of pigs.
- TSTom Segura
Is it really that many?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. I don't even know what the full number is. Like, but they don't know because it goes up every month. So the, the thing is like wild pigs have as many as three litters a year, and they could have as many as six piglets per litter.
- TSTom Segura
Jesus.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. And they start giving birth at six months old.
- TSTom Segura
And then do they do the thing? 'Cause like with a lot of, um, with a lot of, you know, animals that they, that they say you can hunt these, it's because they are destroying like the ecosystem.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. Destroying everything.
- TSTom Segura
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
So what is the number? 2.6 to 4 million wild pigs. Isn't that nuts? That's in Texas.
- TSTom Segura
God.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's just Texas. That's just Texas. 2.6 to 4 million is fucking bonkers.
- TSTom Segura
How long does that hunting season last here?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's 100% all day long, at night. You shoot them with night vision. Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can shoot them, you can shoot them every day, all day.
- 5:00 – 9:52
From field to plate: cooking wild hog, trichinosis risks, and Jesse Griffiths’ hunt-butcher-cook school
- TSTom Segura
The only time I've ever hunted in my life was hog hunting in Florida.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they're, they taste great. The, I mean, like barbecued pig, like if you do it right. You have to be careful because you can get trichinosis if you under cook it. It's not like pork that you get from a restaurant. They're eating everything. They, they eat each other.
- TSTom Segura
Oof.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like if one pig dies, they sometimes they die in fights. They fight with each other and they die, or sometimes they get hit by a hunter and they live and then they die and then they, the pigs eat them. So they'll eat dead deers, they'll eat skunks, raccoons.
- TSTom Segura
Anything.
- JRJoe Rogan
Anything, anything, anything.
- TSTom Segura
So you have to cook it well.
- JRJoe Rogan
Roots. You gotta cook the shitThere's a good friend of mine named Jesse Griffiths. He owns Dai Due Restaurant.
- TSTom Segura
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, uh, he's an awesome chef, like an amazing chef. And Dai Due, if you've never been there before, y- you gotta go there. It's fucking incredible. And so a lot of it is, like, Texas wild game that he serves. He serves, like, nilgai, like, which is like w- th- so, so there's only animals that you can serve that you hunt are ones that people own-
- TSTom Segura
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... like exotics or pigs. So he has, like, wild boar sausage and wi-
- TSTom Segura
He has a place here?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's called Dai Due.
- TSTom Segura
Oh, I think I have that written down on my list.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's legit.
- TSTom Segura
That's-
- JRJoe Rogan
What I was gonna say is Jesse, he has a cooking school.
- TSTom Segura
It is. It's number three on my, on my list there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it's super legit. It's one of the first places I went when I moved here.
- TSTom Segura
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, because he had been on my friend Steve Rinella's podcast, and then he came on my podcast, and when he was on Steve's I was like, "God, that guy's so interesting. Like, who is that guy?" And then he introduces me to him, and then we went hunting together, Steve and I, in South Texas, like right on the Mexican border.
- TSTom Segura
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And Jesse went, too, and Jesse cooked for us. Oh my God, it was sensational.
- TSTom Segura
Oh my God.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's so good. He cooks diver ducks, and diver ducks are kinda gross because they're the ones that go under the water and they eat all the mulch at the bottom and stuff.
- TSTom Segura
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
But what he does is he has some kind of crazy marinating process. So he marinates them for, like, an extended period of time, and then he grilled them, and oh my God.
- TSTom Segura
And Dai Due serves what kind of food?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's mostly... It's like, uh, they have steaks, they have fish, they have everything, but it's mostly Texas food.
- 9:52 – 12:29
Special-ops pig raids and Tannerite feeder explosions: Texas feral hog warfare
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, uh, Taylor Sheridan, the guy who produced Yellowstone?
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. Oh, sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a friend of mine, and he has a giant ranch. It's a crazy ranch.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. 'Cause I think he has the biggest ranch in Texas.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, and he had a pig problem. So he literally brought in these fucking special ops guys, and they trained, like, like as if they were going to go attack some insurgents-
- TSTom Segura
On a mission? Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... to kill pigs.
- TSTom Segura
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
And they-- Yeah, they plotted it all out. They, they strategized. They made a plan, and they went out, and they fucking annihilated, like, a, a bunch of pigs.
- TSTom Segura
That's pretty fucking rad.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, pretty-- Yeah, in pretty violent ways. [laughs]
- TSTom Segura
I'm sure. [laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
Like-
- TSTom Segura
I'm sure
- JRJoe Rogan
... there's some crazy videos online of people using thermite. Do you know what-- No, not thermite. What's that stuff called, Jamie, that blows up? Tannerite. Tannerite. Tannerite? Yeah. Tannerite.
- TSTom Segura
That's how they're blowing up the pigs?
- JRJoe Rogan
So what they do is they'll set up a feeder.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then at the feeder they have Tannerite.
- TSTom Segura
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And so, like, when the feeders go off, the animals hear it, and then they run towards the feeder.
- TSTom Segura
Oh my God.
- JRJoe Rogan
And usually the feeder is for deer, and then the pigs usually kick the deer, ah, and the d- deer just say, "Fuck this," and they run out of there.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you got like 30, 40 pigs. And so-
- TSTom Segura
[laughs] Uh-uh.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs] They fucking blow these pigs to smithereens. Bro, it's so wrong, but th- see if you can find any videos of one where they're, like, on a feeder because the camera's, like, really close. The camera's like 20 yards from it.
- TSTom Segura
Holy shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, like these. Like, watch this. This is so fucked up. They just-
- TSTom Segura
Oh my God.
- 12:29 – 30:23
Dictators and pure sadism: Uday Hussein’s reign of terror (and why it’s ‘modern’ horror)
- TSTom Segura
Speaking of violence, I was, um, I was, I was reading and researching, uh, Uday Hussein.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- TSTom Segura
Man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, dark.
- TSTom Segura
He, he's the darkest.
- JRJoe Rogan
The evilest, him and his brother.
- TSTom Segura
But Uday was the worst.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was the worst?
- TSTom Segura
He was the worst, yeah. He, he was the eldest.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, they-
- TSTom Segura
'Cause I keep reading about dictators, you know? And I was, I was reading about Idi Amin and Mussolini, Stalin, and then you get to Hussein. Hussein's, like, a really interesting story, like, from birth, right? His mother didn't want him, which is a very kinda unique thing, like a mother rejecting her own-
- JRJoe Rogan
Why didn't she want him?
- TSTom Segura
He, uh, his father had died before he was born, and she thought, "This, I don't want this kid." And so when, when she was-- When he was born, she was like, "He's a, like, a devil child."
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
- TSTom Segura
And so she rejected him from birth.
- JRJoe Rogan
Meanwhile, she was right.
- TSTom Segura
She was kinda right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't that crazy?
- TSTom Segura
It is ra- it is crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you think she made him that way?
- TSTom Segura
I think usually when you see, like, these really, um, horrifically violent people and as adults, there's, there's almost always childhood trauma or neglect.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm sure.
- TSTom Segura
So that formula is almost always there.
- JRJoe Rogan
So it's a self-fulfilling prophecy for him.
- TSTom Segura
It kind of-- I think it kind of is, and he was, he was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Or maybe she just fucking knew. Maybe she had some gypsy instincts.
- TSTom Segura
She, she had a feeling, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
She just knew-
- TSTom Segura
... this-
- JRJoe Rogan
... this one-
- 30:23 – 39:48
AI is here: deepfakes, AI OnlyFans, and why students are booing commencement speeches
- JRJoe Rogan
You never know what's real on X, though. There, and there's so many people that are-Posting from foreign accounts that are just full of shit and just-
- TSTom Segura
And there's-
- JRJoe Rogan
... getting in trouble
- TSTom Segura
... and there's a lot of AI shit that is starting to trick more and more people. Like it was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah
- TSTom Segura
... for a second you could always decipher it earl- on the earlier stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TSTom Segura
Now it's getting, it's getting better and better.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah, war footage. There's a lot of people that are posting war footage that was straight out of video games. [laughs]
- TSTom Segura
How good is that gonna be though, the AI stuff?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's already so good. It tricked me.
- TSTom Segura
I know, but we're still in like the early phases of it, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
The only thing that tricks me, or that doesn't trick me, is that I know that AI is real.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So I look at it, I go, "This might be AI."
- TSTom Segura
It's like, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because you have to think that way.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which is a new thing.
- TSTom Segura
It's a new thing. It's a new thing. It's, it's, it's the, the limits are-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah
- TSTom Segura
... well, it's, it's limitless.
- JRJoe Rogan
Limitless.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
AI OnlyFans, they have AI girls that are doing OnlyFans. They're completely fake.
- TSTom Segura
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, and they're making a lot of money.
- TSTom Segura
Oh, I heard about this. Yeah, I did see this.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're making a lot of money, and they have like a whole team of people that respond to all these sad guys.
- TSTom Segura
Oh, my God.
- 39:48 – 44:06
When your best work gets called fake: AI accusations, arrogant teachers, and motivation through spite
- JRJoe Rogan
But then there's also like when kids are really good at writing stuff and they bring it to the teachers, the teachers will tell them that it's AI.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you'll say, "No, it's not AI. I'm just smart, you fucking cunt." [laughs]
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. [laughs] Yeah, that's gotta be, that's such an upsetting fucking feeling.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. My, my daughter had an, an experience like that with, uh, someone who like she's preparing for some tests, and she was doing some stuff, and the, the person who was the tutor was accusing her of using AI. She's like, "No, I, I wrote this just-"
- TSTom Segura
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
"... 'cause I know what I'm- I actually studied."
- TSTom Segura
I studied, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's so insulting. Say-
- TSTom Segura
So insulting
- JRJoe Rogan
... "Come on, you used AI."
- TSTom Segura
It happened to me in college, obviously not AI, but like I turned in a paper as a freshman, and my professor was like, "You didn't write this."
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- TSTom Segura
And I was like, I'm like, "I'm a freshman. How do you know how I write? I just started." And I had to have like a one-on-one meeting with him.
- JRJoe Rogan
What a douchebag.
- TSTom Segura
It was so... But it's a enraging feeling.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
You know? I was like, "I did write this." He was like, "Really? You wrote this?" I'm like, "Yeah, man."
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't that gross? Instead of saying-
- TSTom Segura
It was so gross
- JRJoe Rogan
... "Wow, amazing."
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"You wrote this? That's great. I'm looking forward to having you in my class."
- TSTom Segura
He had no reference for what my writing would be like. It's like how do you right away just go to that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh.
- TSTom Segura
And I had to go see the chair and be like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh
- TSTom Segura
... "He fucking sucks."
- JRJoe Rogan
Arrogant teachers are a problem.
- TSTom Segura
His name was Kermit. I remember that.
- 44:06 – 52:40
The comedy grind: odds of making it, growth vs. stagnation, and disappearing prop/character acts
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh. Yeah, it's funny, man. It's like, d- you're always gonna have people like that in your life, but the thing is, is, like, they are right some of the time, most of the time. Like, if you think about how many people that start doing stand-up comedy as an open micer, and even become a middle act, how many of them go on to... Like, it's more likely once you become a middle act that you'll eventually become a headliner and make a good living.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But when you're an open micer, man, the chances are probably-
- TSTom Segura
The probability is low, yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... what do you think it is? Is it one in 500 maybe that become a professional?
- TSTom Segura
That's a really good question. I, I would actually think it's probably at, a worse scenario. 'Cause you don't realize with, like, how busy your life is and what you do how unaware you are of how many people are doing open mics. It really-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I'm aware because I own a club.
- TSTom Segura
Well, I'm saying when, but I'm, I'm saying in all the clubs around the country-
- JRJoe Rogan
Scale-wise, yeah
- TSTom Segura
... I'm saying.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- TSTom Segura
You realize-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it's nuts
- TSTom Segura
... it's probably not one in 500, it's probably one in 75.
- JRJoe Rogan
But even if you see, like at a club, like if you, if you go to an open mic night on a regular basis, you know, you might see 20, 30 people go up, right?
- TSTom Segura
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Over the course of the night.
- TSTom Segura
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And if you see those people, there might be one of those people that has a chance.
- TSTom Segura
True.
- JRJoe Rogan
A chance.
- TSTom Segura
A chance.
- JRJoe Rogan
Even a chance in their current state. Like, there's people that suck for the first few times-
- TSTom Segura
And then-
- JRJoe Rogan
... and then they get a good laugh, and then they figure out how to loosen up, and then they eventually catch-
- TSTom Segura
Yes
- JRJoe Rogan
... and then they take off.
- TSTom Segura
True.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's, it's totally possible.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- 52:40 – 1:03:31
UK comedy themes, Ari Shaffir’s ‘Jew,’ and ancient anxieties about masturbation (Kabbalah demon lore)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, there's a problem with that. Not a problem, but they have a different style, right? In the Edinburgh, the comedy festival-
- TSTom Segura
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... encourages that style, where, like, every year someone will have a theme.
- TSTom Segura
The theme thing is-- And I, I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah
- TSTom Segura
... I have to say, I do think that that is a really interesting challenge.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- TSTom Segura
Right? Like, that is not an easy thing to be like, "What's your show about?" "My dad." And it's an hour.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- TSTom Segura
And you're like, "Fucking A, it's an hour about that." And they're like, "Yeah." And that's the show for the year.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
And then the next year they're like, "This, this show's about my first year at university." And, like, it's just, like, that theme, that's not easy to put together.
- JRJoe Rogan
You want a cigar?
- TSTom Segura
Fuck yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Make it dark. Well, you know, let me get some ones that haven't been sitting out. Yeah, that's a hard thing to do, man. I wouldn't wanna do it.
- TSTom Segura
The, um-- Like, that's what I actually really-- I really respected and appreciated so much, um, Ari's show, Jew.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- TSTom Segura
Because that's a themed show.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's right.
- TSTom Segura
And it's really good.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's really good. Yeah, Ari worked on that for a long fucking time.
- TSTom Segura
I remember. I remember seeing him workshop it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you know how it started?
- TSTom Segura
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
It started, um, he would do sets at The Comedy Store, and then he would do, like, Ask a Jew. And, like, someone would ask him questions. Like, for people that don't know, Ari went to Israel-
- TSTom Segura
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
... and he, like, studied the Talmud every day for, like, 12 hours a day.
- TSTom Segura
He was a hardcore Jew.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was a hardcore-- He was deep-
- TSTom Segura
Yeah
- 1:03:31 – 1:13:25
Noah’s Ark claims and the Durupinar site: radar scans, tourism incentives, and flood-story origins
- JRJoe Rogan
those things were, it's very difficult to tell after all this time. One of the weird ones is they think they might have found the, the Ark of Noah. Recently? No, like, they, they've identified it quite a while ago, but now they've done, like, ground-penetrating radar scans. This thing is the exact same shape as is described in the Bible. It looks like a boat, like it's the shape of a boat. It's in the place where they said that it rested. Like, in the Bible it said it rested on Mount Ararat in Turkey. That's where it is. That's where it is? And this thing is, like, the shape of a boat. How-- And it was-- But how long ago was that found? That's a good question. I wanna say, like, the '80s or the '90s. Oh, that's-- Okay. So it's not super recent. Not super recent, but back then it was just a photo 'cause it's, like, really high up in the mountains. It's just a photo of this impression, this feature in the ground. Like, what is this? Hmm. And then recently they started using technology to scan it, and I think they've actually found petrified wood. It says it was discovered in 1948 after- '48? Oh, wow. Heavy rain and wind- Petrified wood ... combined with three earthquakes exposed the formation from the surrounding mud. Whoa. And that's where it said it was too? Like, in the area? Yeah. Whoa. Yeah, it's, like, where it supposedly rested according to the Bible. Did they extract it or leave it there? No, it's still there. Wow. We shou- See if you can find a good image of it. It's very weird because you look at it, you go, "What the fuck is that? That does look like a boat." I just- The story's bonkers. The story doesn't make any sense. I think the story's a local story. The ark story? Yeah. Yeah, it's a local story. It's like the idea that Noah had 40 different animals or two- Yeah ... of each animal. Like, that's not the whole-- Animals eat other ani-- Like, I had a whole bit about that. Yeah, yeah. Explaining it to a- Yeah ... five-year-old with Down syndrome. [laughs] But if you-- The problem, though, is back then they didn't know what was going on in Australia. They didn't know what was going on in New Zealand. So if you had a, a local flood- Mm-hmm ... like, and you did save a bunch of animals, like, that's the story. That's the story. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. So there probably was some guy who had a bunch of farm animals that he put on a boat and s- saved them and lived, and a bunch of the people died. But the question is did this guy really get a message from God saying to build an ark? So look at this thing. Holy shit. Isn't that crazy? So- I was- Go ahead. I was, I was reading in the, uh, in the Wiki that when they did these first scans back in 1988, I think it was saying the guy who helped him do the scans went into court and said that it's BS, that it's the ark. But that's- Right, but that was in the '80s. Right. But, but I mean, the guy-- That's what I was trying to figure out, what, what's different about these new scans they supposedly just did. So let's click on that link. What does it say about the new No- [laughs] It's noahscans.com. [laughs] That's why I was, uh, uh- That's how it go? [laughs] Go there. All right. Let's see what kind of virus you get. So this is some guy who's, like, really into Noah's Ark. Do you have to sign up to- Oh, click on that ... that site? Oh, look, I found it. He's like, "It's mine." So that's what the shape of it supposedly looked like in the Bible, and this is his fucking team. Hmm. Wait a minute. What does the sign say? Yeah. Noah's- The sign say Noah's Ark? So they, they all think-- So maybe there's a whole tourism thing attached to the- Yeah, PR. 100%. Yeah, of course. 100%. Of course. Noah's Ark discovered new evidence from Durupinar site in Turkey. What is the new evidence? And the ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat. That's exactly where they said it was gonna be. Uh, even in the Quran it says that. But how can a guy-- I mean, not that I would know, but how does a guy go, "It's not that, though"?You know what I mean? Like, how does he know? He doesn't know. He doesn't know. No, so that's what I was trying to get at. I was trying to read it. He, there was, they, when they scan, they scan only for, like, iron or something like that. Uh-huh. I think based off of what they scanned, I think he was probably saying you can't say that- Right ... is what that is based on. Oh, then, then he's probably right. Yeah. But that's in, that's in 2000... That's in 1980. I can't read. So it says in 2023, the 19- 2019 GPR data was analyzed again, and American researchers uncovered corridors and room-like chambers running the full length of the formation, consistent with a large, intelligently designed vessel. The Turkish soil test in 2024 also showed that samples inside the structure contained nearly three times more organic material than those from outside, suggesting the remains of an ancient biological or man-made substances. Hmm. Since 2019, a joint scientific team has applied GPR, ERT, LIDAR, and chemical analysis to determine whether the Durup- Durupinar formation is a natural geological fold or a buried decayed wood ship preserved in the mountains of Ararat. So I, I have to, they don't know. It's kind of crazy that it's, it matches it in terms of, like, it has all these characteristics. Yeah. It has, like, what, what look like some openings. Uh- I mean, it's cool as shit to explore ... it's pretty cool. I mean, even if they're like, "This is not that," to find that, an old ship like that is still cool. If it, I mean, why is there a ship on the top- Yeah ... of a mountain in Turkey? I know. But this is why it's interesting. But, but if it really was a boat- I don't know what the map rate is. Did you see that, um, uh, uh, I guess it's not recently discovered, but it's recently been cleared, another Incan ruin site that they found? Oh, they keep finding those, dude. But this one was, like, elaborate. Yeah. And, and they, I guess they had just recently, I think, recently cleared it enough so you can see how vast it is. It's massive. Is it in Peru? It's in Peru, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They found a lot of them in Peru. Yeah, this one, the guy, it was, like, a CNN report about it, and I was like, "Holy shit." Yeah. I'd never heard of this place before. It's nuts, dude. All the, the Aztec stuff, the Incan stuff, it's like people were living here long before the, the end of the Ice Age. Yeah. They were, they were living here a long fucking time ago, man, and they're just starting to piece that all together and try to figure out, like, how long have people been here? They used to think it was Clovis first. That was the thing about the Americas. They thought that for the longest time it was the Clovis people, which was, like, 13,000 years ago, and then they found footprints in White Sands, New Mexico- Mm-hmm ... that are 22,000 years old. Goddamn. And so they're like, "Okay, it's definitely not 13,000." Like, how old is... So 22,000 is long before the Ice Age. The end of the Ice Age was, like, 11,000-some years ago. The Incans are more recent than that, though. They weren't around back then. Yeah, but so, like, it's like how long have people been here? Have people been there? Yeah, we don't- Yeah, and what, what were they doing? Is that all carbon dating that they do? So this is where it's at. Yeah. It's, like, in the middle of nowhere. Holy shit. On the map. Whoa, that's where the ark is? That's where this Durupinar site is. Fuck. Fuck. What does it look like from Google Earth? Can you zoom in on it, on the site? This is it. Is it, can you get closer and see the actual formation? Well, that's where the center is. I'm trying to find, uh- The spot. Where's the fucking boat, bitch? Is that it right there? Like, near it? Above it? Above that little indication red marker? Like, to your right, uh, right above. Is that it? I don't know. I don't think. It says it's 170 feet long. It shouldn't, it shouldn't be that big in this picture, I guess. Hmm. Maybe the... Huh. Hmm. Do you think when you do the tour they tell you, "We think," or they're like, "This is it"? Oh, right there. There, there. It's marked here. There it is. This thing. Oh, okay. Oh, there it is. They tell you, they tell you it's it, right? Of course. Yeah. When you look at the r- the ground, though, I was like, is it... But hold on a second. Here's what's weird. Look at, look at how much water erosion is on the ground. Yeah. Like, g- g- close back in again. I was trying to find, like- When you close back in, look at, like, that all looks like rivers ran through that shit. That, yeah. That's, dude- Yeah ... that's what's fucked about so many parts of Earth, is that, but that also looks like that could've been just a bunch of sediment and shit. I can't see the elevation. It's tough to tell the elevation here. Kind of crazy, though. But it does look like a ton- In the shape of a boat ... a ton of erosion happened. Yeah. Well, a ton of water erosion. Yeah. The, the floods were fucking real, man. There's too many different tales of floods in too many different religions. There's giant mountains to the north of it. Hmm. And there's a sea down here, but that's pretty far. Bro, I bet that whole thing washed. Yeah. I guarantee. Oof. The, the, the stuff that ran- I mean, if you look this far out, you can see that it washed over for sure. Oh, yeah, look at that. Like, look at the- Yeah ... below, right above where it says Google Maps. Like, that whole thing looks like it was washed out. Yeah. That all looks like it was washed out a long time ago. Yeah. We've looked at this part before too, but yeah. Yeah. Well, Randall Carlson, um, he's a, he's, like, a real expert in, um, not just the, the mythology around the, the impacts of, uh, the Younger Dryas impact theory, but about, like, what possibly could have happened to the ice sheets and what created the Great Lakes, and what kind of insane water. You would be talking about the volume of water and the power of that water. If you're, if all of the ice caps get hit with asteroids, like boom, boom, boom. Like, that's what they think, that somewhere around 11,800 years ago, we ran into a comet storm, and they slammed into North America, and then you just get this insane wash of water that tears through the land, and just fucking insane, impossible volume of water just carving its way through mountains, carving its way through the landscape, flattening everything in front of it. And that's how
- TSTom Segura
... the Earth to the shape that it's in right now
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's the shape of North America
- TSTom Segura
Yeah
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a lot of, like, evidence of that. And like, when you- he's got all these slides that he shows. See if you can find some of his stuff.
- 1:13:25 – 1:17:31
Catastrophe geology: Younger Dryas impact theory, megaflood evidence, and Jupiter as Earth’s “bodyguard”
- TSTom Segura
I was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Where he goes over it. It's pretty interesting
- TSTom Segura
... reading how, like, we get saved countless times a year just by Jupiter-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah
- TSTom Segura
... just 'cause comets are on their way here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Jupiter's like our bodyguard.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, to destroy us.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah, and it just slams into that giant gas giant.
- TSTom Segura
But we all think of that as, like, this sci-fi kind of fun-
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh
- TSTom Segura
... crazy movie thing. Like, that's really real, though.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. Well, look at the moon. The moon's covered in craters.
- TSTom Segura
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, the, we live in a shooting gallery.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So this is some of the stuff. Like, look at that. Tell me that doesn't look like water-
- TSTom Segura
Mm-hmm
- JRJoe Rogan
... washed over that. The Columbia River. Isn't that nuts?
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's, there's tons of these. And, you know, he does a fantastic job of breaking it all down, but he thinks that these big canyons, even the Grand Canyon, was carved, like, relatively quickly. He thinks this idea that these things, that this, all this water erosion took place over millions of years, like, I bet it wasn't. He goes, "I think it was very quickly."
- TSTom Segura
What's really, really quickly mean, though?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know. I mean, who knows? But you're talking about giant chunks of ice and rock from the sky that slam into the Earth, change the climate completely, cause massive flooding, just huge amounts of water just rushing over the land, and it just completely makes sense that that's what the stories are.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's so many stories of a flood.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Epic of Gilgamesh. It's in the Quran. It's in the Bible. It's in... Like, they all have stories of a great flood. And then, you know, when they see, you see things like the Great Lakes, which the Great Lakes are fucking huge, man.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Those used to all be glaciers. They used to all be glacier.
- TSTom Segura
I wonder how many of those comets it takes to, like, change the makeup of, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it depends on the size
- 1:17:31 – 1:21:29
Deep ocean mysteries: ‘moving domes,’ undersea UFO bases, and James Cameron’s Mariana Trench dive
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. Well, there's species that, uh, I was read- watching this video that Forrest Galante had. There's a bunch of species that have only been discovered, like, one or two times, one or two specimens. Like, there's a p- specific whale that they only have, like, one specimen of.
- TSTom Segura
What are they?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, what is that fucking ghost?
- TSTom Segura
Translucent, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Jimmy, I'm gonna send you this 'cause this is very weird. It's a very strange thing that I saw.
- TSTom Segura
Holy fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I wanted to send you this 'cause I don't know if this is legit or not. Um, but I've seen it before, and it's this thing that they're, they're detailing that's moving around on the bottom of the ocean, and it seems to be carving a path on the bottom of the ocean. So-
- TSTom Segura
Uh, is the scene from Google Earth?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know.
- TSTom Segura
'Cause they're usually not accurate.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not?
- TSTom Segura
No, just the way that they track that from the satellites isn't the best, but, but I'll see what you say.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the thing about this one, I, I don't know if it's true, but it looks like there's a path that it has on the ground on the bottom of the ocean.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, but that's not-
- JRJoe Rogan
How do you-
- TSTom Segura
How are they getting that information? That's why I'm asking you. That's [laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
I have no idea. I got it from Billy Carson. So Billy Carson has been known to, uh, engage in some-
- TSTom Segura
It's on the screen. Google Earth says-
- JRJoe Rogan
... gray areas
- TSTom Segura
... a two-mile dome slowly crawling across the Pacific floor.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. So what the fuck is that? Two-mile dome slowly crossing-
- TSTom Segura
It's a two-mile dome?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh. Two miles across, slowly crawling. So look, it, it looks like it's leaving a trail.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So is that real?
- TSTom Segura
I'll have to see what they're getting this information from.
- JRJoe Rogan
There you go.
- TSTom Segura
It's like we're, uh, hey, Google Earth doesn't take video, so like it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Stop being a party pooper. I'm just trying to find answers.
- TSTom Segura
Sorry, I'm just trying to deduce things.
- 1:21:29 – 1:37:42
Titan sub disaster lessons, carbon fiber obsession, and the ‘fun vs fast’ philosophy of car collecting
- JRJoe Rogan
He de- he helped design that. When that one, remember when that one imploded?
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The crazy one?
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. He was like the one of the top people speaking about what they got. He knew, he knew exactly what they got wrong.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, apparently there were some whistleblowers in that company.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. I watched that doc. It was incredible.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, yeah. The, the people that built it were like, "Don't do this."
- TSTom Segura
And when they, when they would do the tests and the tests would go wrong, and he was like, "Get the fuck out of here." Like, "If you're gonna be negative, don't be around me." Yeah. That's really-
- JRJoe Rogan
God, there's so many crazy people out there, so many legitimately crazy people that just wanna be right no matter what.
- TSTom Segura
He couldn't accept being wrong. He just couldn't accept it.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, send people to their death in the ocean in the most horrific way possible. You just get compressed instantaneously.
- TSTom Segura
And you just hear it start-
- JRJoe Rogan
Grr.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
You imagine you're looking around, you're like, "We're good."
- JRJoe Rogan
Tony used to have a bit about that.
- TSTom Segura
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
He would, he would, uh, at the beginning of his set, he would take his microphone and he would scratch it on the stool, and people were like, "What are you doing?" That's the last thing those people in that submarine heard.
- TSTom Segura
Oh my God. [laughs] So dark. That's the, uh, hatch and por- eye port. That's, I think that's all James Cameron could see out of.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- TSTom Segura
That guy's big, [laughs] that guy's big fucking mistake too isn't that he couldn't figure out how to design one that was capable. It's that he couldn't de- find, design one that was light enough to do multiple trips and be towed out. Like, in other words, the cost of hauling out the correct size and weight would've been too much for him to run this business where people could pay to do it, so he kept looking for lighter and lighter materials.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God.
- TSTom Segura
To be, you know what I mean? So, 'cause-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God
- TSTom Segura
... 'cause then you could haul it out and it wouldn't be too much weight, and they're like, "No, but you need to have like steel."
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God.
- TSTom Segura
He's like, "Nah, that weighs too much."
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- TSTom Segura
"Let's do carbon fiber," you know?
- 1:37:42 – 2:30:31
Back to comedy & culture wars: working new hours, Netflix freedom, Canada’s MAID program, and outrage at institutional incentives
- TSTom Segura
I went there like a week ago. It was super fun.
- JRJoe Rogan
I heard it was awesome during the Netflix festival.
- TSTom Segura
It was awesome.
- JRJoe Rogan
Was that when you were there?
- TSTom Segura
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
It was so fun.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm. Everybody said it was like the comedy store of old.
- TSTom Segura
Mm-hmm. It was great.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, Peter Short texted me. Sent me some pictures and he's like, "Dude, you should be here. It's amazing."
- TSTom Segura
It was fucking bumping, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's nice.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's nice.
- TSTom Segura
It was really fun. I would go in your club too. I'm working on a new hour, so it's been really fun to get reps.
- JRJoe Rogan
How long you been doing, uh, sets now?
- TSTom Segura
Not long.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause last time I talked to you-
- TSTom Segura
So like a month.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. Because-
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you wanna do a set Tuesday or Wednesday?
- TSTom Segura
I leave. I go back to LA. I, I got this thing I, I have to go fly out for to announce.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, what are you doing?
- TSTom Segura
Uh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Can you tell anybody?
- TSTom Segura
I don't think I can yet.
- JRJoe Rogan
Not yet? Oh, tell me.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, I'll tell you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, tell me.
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