EVERY SPOKEN WORD
120 min read · 23,731 words- JRJoe Rogan
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- JEJoe Eszterhas
Okay, let's rock and roll.
- JRJoe Rogan
You need the headphones?
- JEJoe Eszterhas
Never.
- JRJoe Rogan
No? Okay. Um, you-
- JEJoe Eszterhas
If it's okay, if it's okay with you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- JEJoe Eszterhas
I, I know I've seen it both ways on the show, but.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, you don't have to wear them.
- JEJoe Eszterhas
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
You, you were telling me about your cane. That cane is amazing.
- JEJoe Eszterhas
It's, it's, it's amazing. It's, uh, it's carved by the Dogon people who are, who are in, in Mali. And the, the, uh, it's a family that's been doing it for 100 years, and many of them, um, were killed in the Rwandan wars. Um, it, it, it's, it's heavy. It's beautifully done, I think, and it's been a, a close companion of mine for many years. It seems to be indestructible. [laughs]
- JRJoe Rogan
It's pretty awesome looking.
- JEJoe Eszterhas
Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
It looks heavy.
- JEJoe Eszterhas
Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
The Dogon people have a very strange origin story.
- JEJoe Eszterhas
Do they?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a fascinating origin story that involves ... Is it, uh, the ... In- involves, like, here it is. Th- that's, I don't want, I didn't want to misspeak. So here it is. Um, centers on the supreme creator Amma and the cosmic journey of the amphibious water spirits known as the Nommo. So they have this crazy cosmic origin story that's a part of their mythology. "Amma then attempted to procreate with the earth, but the pairing was flawed." It's, like, a very strange descendant of the ark. A- according to the Dogon traditions, the Nommo descended to earth from the Sirius star system in a giant ark-like vessel. The vessel contained the eight original human ancestors, along with the seeds and animals needed to populate the world. Those are the Dogon people.
- JEJoe Eszterhas
That's amazing. That's amazing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Amazing.
- JEJoe Eszterhas
I, I didn't know that. That's amazing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Crazy story.
- JEJoe Eszterhas
My, I have a daughter who's a nature photographer, I mean, does a lot of work in Africa. And, um, and, uh, she knows all about that stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
So you were telling me before we got rolling, I said, "Save this for the air," that [laughs] Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his wife have seen Basic Instinct how many times?
- JEJoe Eszterhas
15, at least 15. There's a recent biography-
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- JEJoe Eszterhas
... that, that said that, that it, it began when they were courting, and that they had known each other before. And one day she saw him with, with this tape in his hand. She said, "What is it?" And he said, "Basic Instinct." And they, then they saw it together, and it had such an effect on them that they, that they played it together many times, at least 15 times, during, on their anniversaries.
- JRJoe Rogan
[laughs]
- JEJoe Eszterhas
Now, [laughs] I'm not sure what that says. And, you know, the, and I, I know that some people think the movies had a kind of amatory effect on them. But the other thing that's interesting to me is if you see it 15 times, does, does it really fuck you up to the point where you go to war with v- with, with, with, uh, with Putin?
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