Joe Rogan Experience #2508 - Joe Eszterhas

1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

   [upbeat music] Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat music] Let's rock and roll.

2. JEJoe Eszterhas0:13

   Okay, let's rock and roll.

3. JRJoe Rogan0:14

   You need the headphones?

4. JEJoe Eszterhas0:16

   Never.

5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

   No? Okay. Um, you-

6. JEJoe Eszterhas0:18

   If it's okay, if it's okay with you.

7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

   Oh.

8. JEJoe Eszterhas0:20

   I, I know I've seen it both ways on the show, but.

9. JRJoe Rogan0:21

   No, you don't have to wear them.

10. JEJoe Eszterhas0:22

    Okay.

11. JRJoe Rogan0:22

    You, you were telling me about your cane. That cane is amazing.

12. JEJoe Eszterhas0:25

    It's, it's, it's amazing. It's, uh, it's carved by the Dogon people who are, who are in, in Mali. And the, the, uh, it's a family that's been doing it for 100 years, and many of them, um, were killed in the Rwandan wars. Um, it, it, it's, it's heavy. It's beautifully done, I think, and it's been a, a close companion of mine for many years. It seems to be indestructible. [laughs]

13. JRJoe Rogan0:52

    It's pretty awesome looking.

14. JEJoe Eszterhas0:54

    Thank you.

15. JRJoe Rogan0:54

    It looks heavy.

16. JEJoe Eszterhas0:55

    Thank you.

17. JRJoe Rogan0:55

    The Dogon people have a very strange origin story.

18. JEJoe Eszterhas0:59

    Do they?

19. JRJoe Rogan0:59

    It's a fascinating origin story that involves ... Is it, uh, the ... In- involves, like, here it is. Th- that's, I don't want, I didn't want to misspeak. So here it is. Um, centers on the supreme creator Amma and the cosmic journey of the amphibious water spirits known as the Nommo. So they have this crazy cosmic origin story that's a part of their mythology. "Amma then attempted to procreate with the earth, but the pairing was flawed." It's, like, a very strange descendant of the ark. A- according to the Dogon traditions, the Nommo descended to earth from the Sirius star system in a giant ark-like vessel. The vessel contained the eight original human ancestors, along with the seeds and animals needed to populate the world. Those are the Dogon people.

20. JEJoe Eszterhas1:54

    That's amazing. That's amazing.

21. JRJoe Rogan1:54

    Amazing.

22. JEJoe Eszterhas1:55

    I, I didn't know that. That's amazing.

23. JRJoe Rogan1:56

    Crazy story.

24. JEJoe Eszterhas1:57

    My, I have a daughter who's a nature photographer, I mean, does a lot of work in Africa. And, um, and, uh, she knows all about that stuff.

25. JRJoe Rogan2:07

    So you were telling me before we got rolling, I said, "Save this for the air," that [laughs] Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his wife have seen Basic Instinct how many times?

26. JEJoe Eszterhas2:16

    15, at least 15. There's a recent biography-

27. JRJoe Rogan2:19

    [laughs]

28. JEJoe Eszterhas2:19

    ... that, that said that, that it, it began when they were courting, and that they had known each other before. And one day she saw him with, with this tape in his hand. She said, "What is it?" And he said, "Basic Instinct." And they, then they saw it together, and it had such an effect on them that they, that they played it together many times, at least 15 times, during, on their anniversaries.

29. JRJoe Rogan2:43

    [laughs]

30. JEJoe Eszterhas2:43

    Now, [laughs] I'm not sure what that says. And, you know, the, and I, I know that some people think the movies had a kind of amatory effect on them. But the other thing that's interesting to me is if you see it 15 times, does, does it really fuck you up to the point where you go to war with v- with, with, with, uh, with Putin?

Episode duration: 2:11:59