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Joe Rogan Experience #2512 - Joey Diaz

Joey Diaz is a stand-up comedian, actor, and writer. He is the host of the podcast “The Church of What’s Happening Now: The New Testament” and the author of “Tremendous: The Life of a Comedy Savage.” https://www.youtube.com/@JoeyDiaz https://www.patreon.com/JoeyDiaz https://www.joeydiaz.net Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Use code ROGAN at https://BlueChew.com  to get 10% OFF + Free Overnight Shipping on your first order. Get 30% off + 2 free gifts at https://ARMRA.com/rogan

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Jun 10, 20262h 45mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:000:02

    Intro

    1. JR

      [upbeat music]

  2. 0:022:35

    Knee recovery hacks: Voltaren, edibles, and pain management on the road

    1. JR

      Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day.

    2. JD

      All right, brother. Hey.

    3. JR

      My man, what's happening? What's going on?

    4. JD

      Nothing, same shit. Great to be here.

    5. JR

      Great to see you. How you feeling?

    6. JD

      Ice in my knee. Like a tip-top fucking Magoo.

    7. JR

      Your knee... I can't believe you can walk so quickly after getting the knee fixed again.

    8. JD

      It was, like, three days, man.

    9. JR

      That's nuts.

    10. JD

      But yesterday I fucked it up at Newark Airport because I wanted to walk.

    11. JR

      Oh.

    12. JD

      You know? But it was like, like I walk every day at the gym, and then I walk my neighborhood for breakfast and after dinner, but that's a loop.

    13. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    14. JD

      You know? This was 10 loops yesterday. So thank God I had a baggie with edibles with me on the plane. I ate the edibles, and I put... I asked the fucking flight attendant if she'd give me some ice, and that's how I got it down. Then I... You rub it with that Vortom shit, that liquid cocaine juice that's-

    15. JR

      What? [laughs]

    16. JD

      Yeah, there's a cream that, that became illegal. You buy it over the counter.

    17. JR

      What is that?

    18. JD

      It's Vora something, Vorta... Look, don't quote me, man.

    19. JR

      The z-

    20. JD

      But it's a good cream. It numbs your eye. You have to rub it, though, twice a day and-

    21. JR

      Oh, yeah?

    22. JD

      Yeah, but it fucking feels fantastic.

    23. JR

      I've never heard of it.

    24. JD

      Yeah, Voltron, Voltaren.

    25. JR

      Vol, Vol what?

    26. JD

      Don't listen to me, though.

    27. JR

      [laughs]

    28. JD

      Just Google what's the-

    29. JR

      Is that it?

    30. JD

      That it, Voltaren. See? I was right.

  3. 2:356:15

    Old-school steroids, cadaver HGH, and Lyle Alzado’s cautionary tale

    1. JD

      So we were talking about Lyle Alzado.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. JD

      That was the early steroids, which were the '70s.

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. JD

      You don't know what the fuck we were getting in the '70s. Everything came from Germany, I think.

    6. JR

      I think they were getting-

    7. JD

      Deca Durabolin, all that shit.

    8. JR

      I think they were getting human growth hormone from ca- cadavers. See if that's true. Jamie, put that into our AI sponsor, Perplexity.

    9. JD

      [laughs]

    10. JR

      Did they used to get human growth hormone from cadavers? I think they did. I think that's how they used to get it.

    11. JD

      Where do you get human grow- growth hormone from now?

    12. JR

      That's a good question. Um, I don't know. I don't know how they do it. It's synthetic. I know it's synthetic, so it must be they isolate the molecule, they figure out how to reproduce it, and then they make it somehow. I have no idea. Um, but the way they used to do it back then. Cadaver-derived human growth hormone was real, used mid-1900s to 1985. It turned out to be dangerous, 'cause it sometimes tr- transmitted prion diseases like Creutzfeldt-Jakob, Jakob, and is no longer used and has been fully replaced by synthetic recombinant HGH. So, uh, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, that's mad cow disease. It's the same kind of disease, and when it comes from is... It's the same thing that cannibals get. When people eat human brain tissue-

    13. JD

      Oh

    14. JR

      ... they, they get, and, and neurons and that kind of shit, you get this same disease. Alzado was one of the first US f- sports figures to admit using anabolic steroids in the last year of his life as he battled against the brain tumor which eventually caused his death. Alzado asserted that his steroid use abuse, his steroid abuse directly led to his fatal illness. He recounted his steroid abuse in an article in Sports Illustrated. "I target- started taking anabolic steroids in '69 and never stopped. Now I'm sick and I'm scared. I was addicting mentally... It was addicting mentally and... mentally addicting. 90% of athletes I know are on the stuff. We're not born to be 300 pounds or jump 30 feet. Be- I became very violent on the field. Off it, too. I did things only crazy people do. Once in 1979 in Denver, a guy sideswiped my car. I chased him up and down the hills through the neighborhoods. I did that a lot. I chased the guy, pulled him out of his car, beat the hell out of him. But look at me now. I wobble when I walk, and sometimes I have to hold on to somebody. You have to give me time to answer questions, 'cause I have trouble remembering things."

    15. JD

      And he died at 43.

    16. JR

      43 from brain cancer.

    17. JD

      43.

    18. JR

      That's how old I am. Wow.

    19. JD

      And he didn't look good at the end. Like, he wore the bandanas-

    20. JR

      Alz- Alzado was Jewish?

    21. JD

      That's what it said.

    22. JR

      It says he was inducted into the Jewish Hall of Fame. What did it say, Bo? Go back to that, what I, what I was just reading.

    23. JD

      International Jewish one.

    24. JR

      Jewish Sports Hall of Fame. I didn't even know that existed. Okay. Uh, so I don't know if that was that stuff, that growth hormone did that, but...

    25. JD

      Well, listen, he's saying he can't walk at the end, he can't remember. That's the-

    26. JR

      It's also the hit

    27. JD

      ... the knocks to the head.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. JD

      And mixed with whatever was going on-

    30. JR

      Yeah. I mean, there's a lot-

  4. 6:157:16

    Austin’s Cuban Uber drivers vs. Waymo robots (and why people don’t trust them)

    1. JD

      As a matter of fact, I got picked up by an Uber yesterday. Guess who was the driver?

    2. JR

      Who?

    3. JD

      Yoel Romero's nephew

    4. JR

      No way

    5. JD

      And he's a judo champion

    6. JR

      No way

    7. JD

      We talked in Spanish for about 15, 20 minutes

    8. JR

      Was this in Jersey or here?

    9. JD

      Right here. He lives here

    10. JR

      No shit

    11. JD

      'Cause all these Uber drivers are Cuban

    12. JR

      Really?

    13. JD

      All of them in Austin

    14. JR

      They'll get them replaced by robots

    15. JD

      Fuck that

    16. JR

      Those goddamn Waymos are everywhere

    17. JD

      The Cubans ... Bro, I saw a Cuban yell at a robot a couple ... Last time I was here

    18. JR

      [laughs]

    19. JD

      He got out of the car yelling at the car, and he realized, "Coño, el robot." He got back in the car. "My bad-"

    20. JR

      That's hilarious

    21. JD

      "... 'cause the guy cut him off." [laughs] He's-

    22. JR

      They cut you off all the time, these fucking Waymos

    23. JD

      No, I stay away from those motherfuckers

    24. JR

      They get right in front of you. They're, they're ridiculous

    25. JD

      I don't trust those cars at all, and I don't see how people sit ... I, I don't. It's not for me, brother

    26. JR

      Did you hear about that lady, she got into one and a homeless guy was in the back?

    27. JD

      No

    28. JR

      Yeah, some guy used the Waymo. He got his luggage out, left the hatch open, probably figured the, the thing closed itself. It didn't. Homeless guy hopped in, shut the door. Lady gets the Waymo, there's a homeless guy in the back. He starts yelling at her for paying robots. "Why you paying robots?" [laughs]

  5. 7:1610:24

    Atlantic City chaos: dispensaries, yoked fans, and a homeless hustle

    1. JD

      I gotta tell you about my homeless situation this week, Joe

    2. JR

      Oh, no

    3. JD

      So my daughter played at Egg Harbor this weekend. It's like 25 minutes outside of Atlantic City, which is an hour and a half from my house. So we went down for Saturday's tournament. They won. Now we got two more games on Sunday, so we got a hotel. I didn't wanna get a hotel at Oceans. I'm gonna be at Oceans in August, but I didn't wanna g- go there because all the other parents were in fucking, uh, Harrah's. So I said, "Fuck it, I don't wanna be that guy. Oh, we're ... I'll stay at Harrah's with you." So the game ended, and my wife had to drive the kids somewhere, and I go, "You know what? This ..." Because every ti- every weekend when I go on those little trips, I go to a weed store. Like last week I went into one in Trenton. Dog, this was a block from the state capitol. You could see the dome. The Black guy called me back to me. He goes, "No, no, no, I got a secret place in the back." He had mushrooms, mushroom chocolate-

    4. JR

      Don't say this. You're gonna-

    5. JD

      N- they-

    6. JR

      ... the guy's gonna get in trouble

    7. JD

      ... uh, dog, there's 18 stores in, in fucking, uh, you know, you gotta figure it out

    8. JR

      [laughs]

    9. JD

      I'm not ratting nobody out. They know what's going on, the cops. They got a ba- I mean, they had packaged mushrooms, all different flavors-

    10. JR

      That's crazy

    11. JD

      ... blue, Hawaii, the whole thing. This week I go to Atlantic City. I go to this one, Evereld, whatever. It's supposed to be the big one

    12. JR

      The big one

    13. JD

      The big weed store in Atlantic City, and it's right by the casino. So as I pull up, I park my car in front. As I walk out, there's four yoked brothers, yoked with gold chains on in one of those fucking suburban millionaire cars. What do you call the big truck?

    14. JR

      Escalades?

    15. JD

      No, the other one, the, the one that looks like they're attacking your town. Not the-

    16. JR

      Oh, AMG G-Wagons?

    17. JD

      I don't fucking know. Anyway, they're in there-

    18. JR

      Is it a Mercedes?

    19. JD

      They're in there bumping shit.

    20. JR

      Right

    21. JD

      And they see me and they go, "Yo, we know you." And I go, "Yeah, what up brother? Hold on, I'll catch you on the way out." I thought by the time I got out they would leave

    22. JR

      Right

    23. JD

      So I went in. I come out and they're all outside their cars, all four brothers, yoked, big gold chains. Like, "Yo, you're the motherfucker that goes on Rogan." "Nah, that's the motherfucker from The Longest Yard. We looked you up."

    24. JR

      [laughs]

    25. JD

      So they're talking to me, talking to me, talking. We're rocking and rolling. Rogan, the UFC. "Yo, what do you think about that?" And I'm loving it. But in the middle of all this, this Black little homeless crackhead walks his way over, and I could hear him ask the other guy, "Who's this white motherfucker?" And the Black guy goes, "That's the dude from The Longest Yard, you know, the football movie." The Black guy comes over, and I see him walk right over me. He goes, "Hey, Mr. Football Man, why don't you break out a dollar for me?" He just bummed me out a dollar. I had to give him 10.

    26. JR

      Ah.

    27. JD

      I was so fucking embarrassed in front of the-

    28. JR

      Why don't you break out a dollar for me?

    29. JD

      Why don't you break out a dollar for me, Mr. Football Star?

    30. JR

      Ah. [laughs]

  6. 10:2413:26

    Why Vegas grew (and AC didn’t): mob money, Bugsy Siegel, and cash-era casinos

    1. JD

      And I thought by now they'd at least build up the outside of AC

    2. JR

      No, no, no, no, no. No, uh, it's barely making money. You know, A- AC doesn't do well, not like Vegas does. You know what I mean? Like AC's got some nice spots. You can go there and have a good time, but it's not like it's gonna grow

    3. JD

      You go to Borgata with the Italians and shit

    4. JR

      The outside is too sketchy. The outside's too sketch

    5. JD

      The Borgata, all the Italians-

    6. JR

      Yeah

    7. JD

      ... go down with their white shoes on the weekend. "Hey, it's Carlo. What up?" You know

    8. JR

      Yeah

    9. JD

      But nah, they ... I don't like the Borgata that much. I like the, I like the couple hotels down there

    10. JR

      There's some nice places

    11. JD

      Yeah, we stayed in the Borgata-

    12. JR

      But the thing is-

    13. JD

      ... when it first opened, you and I

    14. JR

      Yeah

    15. JD

      We had a gig there

    16. JR

      That's right

    17. JD

      We had a gig there

    18. JR

      That's right. The thing is, is it's not gonna grow like Vegas is, you know? It, Vegas is crazy. See, when Ve- Vegas had a head start. The thing ... Uh, like if they tried to make Vegas now, ooh, tough sell. Tough sell. Too many places to go. You can gamble everywhere. You can gamble on your phone now. But when Vegas was first, there was no casinos in the country, dog. It was just Vegas. And I wonder if they made some sort of a deal. "Well, let them blow off atomic bombs. They blow off these atomic bombs and then we'll, you know, we'll put the casinos in."

    19. JD

      What's the difference? We blow ourselves up

    20. JR

      I thought that, but then we looked it up, and it turned out they made Vegas before the atomic bomb. So I'm like, well, what ... I guess it was just gangsters. They just bribed people or convinced people. There was nothing going on there

    21. JD

      It was a pit stop. They opened up Vegas for a pit stop for American soldiers to stop on the way, or something like that

    22. JR

      Well, it was thir- was it in the '30s, right? Was it the '30s, Jamie?

    23. JD

      Didn't the guy that owned the Comedy Store-

    24. JR

      Third, uh, when Vegas was created?

    25. SP

      It started

    26. JD

      Yeah, ain't the guy that owned the Comedy Store-

    27. JR

      Yeah, Bugsy Siegel

    28. JD

      He, he was in charge of Vegas

    29. JR

      Yep, Bugsy Siegel

    30. JD

      And he robbed them, they shot him. That's-

  7. 13:2616:35

    Legal weed economics: taxes, oversupply, and the ‘Wild West’ edible era

    1. JR

      It was nuts. I, I read this story about the dilemma, like these people are making all this money. And the crazy thing is the state was making all that money too because the taxes on the legal weed, look this up, please.

    2. JD

      It's amazing.

    3. JR

      I think it was, like, 39%.

    4. JD

      It's fucking crazy.

    5. JR

      And everybody was like, "Sure." Like, you would never accept 39% on alcohol.

    6. JD

      No.

    7. JR

      You'd never accept 39% on ground beef.

    8. JD

      No, no.

    9. JR

      But 39% on weed, you're like, "I'll take it."

    10. JD

      During the pandemic in LA, you had to buy an extra tax to go open. That's why they called them, uh, what do they call those businesses that had to be open?

    11. JR

      Dispensaries?

    12. JD

      No, no, no, the businesses that they had a purpose to be open during the pandemic.

    13. JR

      Oh, right, essential.

    14. JD

      Like, essential.

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. JD

      They made that essential, but they-

    17. JR

      Yeah

    18. JD

      ... they charged an extra tax, 10% tax for you to open.

    19. JR

      Well, they're making so much money off weed in California.

    20. JD

      Well, now look at all the weed stores. They're starting to close.

    21. JR

      Are they?

    22. JD

      And in Jersey, they created a dilemma because the state convinced them that they had to build and all this shit. So all these places started, you know, you, you're opening up a shop minus three mil. Listen, it's a lot of $20 bags to get the three, three mil.

    23. JR

      A lot. And not only that, there's a lot of competition.

    24. JD

      Oh, and we-

    25. JR

      Like how many weed stores are in LA? It's bananas.

    26. JD

      Bro, in Englishtown, New Jersey, there's four of them, and here's what gets better. They're all on the same block.

    27. JR

      Wow. Do you, did you ever go to that place in Englewood with me back when it was, uh, only medical, the Englewood Wellness Center?

    28. JD

      Where you used to get the lollipops.

    29. JR

      Yeah.

    30. JD

      Yes. Yeah, I went there one time with you.

  8. 16:3522:38

    THC and performance: panic attacks on planes, comedy flow states, and anxiety management

    1. JD

      So you didn't know how many milligrams were in this stuff. And I remember eating a brownie one time and flying up to Pittsburgh on a red-eye, and my leg wouldn't stop tapping.

    2. JR

      [laughs]

    3. JD

      Like it wouldn't stop fucking tapping.

    4. JR

      I remember one time we were on a plane and you had a panic attack, and then you waited like an hour later and then popped two more. [laughs]

    5. JD

      Fuck yeah.

    6. JR

      I was like, "How are you doing that?"

    7. JD

      You're like, "Joe Rogan, I almost got off the plane. I couldn't take it. I couldn't breathe. My fucking heart was closing. It was like my chest was closing in on me. The walls were closing in. I thought the plane was gonna crash. I was freaking out. I almost had turned the fucking plane around."

    8. JR

      Oh, you have no idea.

    9. JD

      "But I'm back, baby."

    10. JR

      You have-

    11. JD

      "I just popped two more." [laughs]

    12. JR

      [laughs]

    13. JD

      Oh, you have no idea what I put myself through over the years.

    14. JR

      Why do you do that?

    15. JD

      Because I just wanna take a chance. Columbus did. I mean, I-

    16. JR

      [laughs]

    17. JD

      ... I'm sitting at home, it's 2:00 in the afternoon, you're bored as shit. You're like-

    18. JR

      Ah

    19. JD

      ... "Let's-"

    20. JR

      You and the devil

    21. JD

      ... "let's see what happens." And the only thing that would hold me back is if I had a spot that night.

    22. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    23. JD

      Then I would tame it and be like a couple hundred milligrams. But if I-

    24. JR

      You, you don't wanna go up on stage with too much edibles in your system.

    25. JD

      Yes, you do. [laughs]

    26. JR

      Sometimes you do.

    27. JD

      Yes, you do. Sometimes you need to.

    28. JR

      It's important sometimes. Sometimes it's important to go off into the woods, right?

    29. JD

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      Sometimes you should stay on the trail.

  9. 22:3831:45

    Sports betting and fight odds: DraftKings, gambling everywhere, and UFC analysis

    1. JR

      Do you, um, bet sports all the time? How often you bet?

    2. JD

      This time of the year, I bet basketball because it's real. There's defense.

    3. JR

      Do you use, uh, do you use, uh, an app? Like, what do you do?

    4. JD

      DraftKings.

    5. JR

      DraftKings? You do it on DraftKings?

    6. JD

      Just, oh, everything is on DraftKings.

    7. JR

      All right, you don't have a bookie.

    8. JD

      No.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. JD

      No. I enjoy ... Because DraftKings has so many f- Like, there's bookies out there, like, they just-

    11. JR

      Right

    12. JD

      ... keep busting these mafia rings in Jersey and New York. 39 people, they had the big bust last year with the basketball coaches, that they put the cards up and you could see through the fucking cards on the table. It's a m- it's ... Gambling has grown to a fucking nightmare. We're gonna pay for this in five years. But when I went to college, after orientation, you walked out and there was credit card companies. Discover, MasterCard, Visa, and they give you a credit card for being a student for 250 automatic, right there. And now, now when you go to those orientation days, DraftKings is there.

    13. JR

      Hmm.

    14. JD

      You know, the other ones. FanDuel's there. And I'm not putting them down. I love DraftKings. But you're copping these kids. These kids don't have enough problems with fucking student loans.

    15. JR

      Right.

    16. JD

      Now I'm gonna put a fucking thing ... More people are gambling more than ever.

    17. JR

      Than ever.

    18. JD

      Than ever.

    19. JR

      In Australia, too. Uh-

    20. JD

      Ever

    21. JR

      ... my buddy McCann, you know James McCann?

    22. JD

      Yeah, ever.

    23. JR

      He was talking about how crazy it is in Australia. Yeah, it's, uh, it's in ... What is the s- what's the odds on the Ilia Topuria, Justin Gaethje fight at the White House?

    24. JD

      To pick 'em.

    25. JR

      Is ... No. No. Topuria has to be a, a huge favorite. I guarantee P- Topuria's two to one. Four to one. Four to one. Yeah.

    26. JD

      Oh my God.

    27. JR

      Four to one's crazy. Two to one ... If you just think about what he's done in his last three fights, he's had the most legendary run in MMA championship history in his last three fights. He knocked out three all-time greats. Knocks out- Alexander Volkanovski knocks out Max Holloway, knocks out Charles Oliveira, three in a row. Like, anybody who could do that, you go, "Well, I'm not fucking betting anything against that guy." But Justin Gaethje's a tough character, son

    28. JD

      He's a tough character

    29. JR

      The closest odds on the card, it looks like

    30. JD

      So if I bet 25 bucks on Gaethje, I win...

  10. 31:4537:30

    Weight cutting, dehydration, and the brutality of old weigh-ins

    1. JR

      And on top of that, no dieting, so no depleting of his body at all. You're gonna have a guy competing for the first time where he's never had to cut weight. That's huge. That's a giant advantage. Not having to cut weight is like they let you take steroids. You c- you don't have to cut weight? No cutting weight at all? If they changed weight cutting, if they cut all weight cutting out of MMA, you'd have, like, 20% better performances. People would be fighting so much better, because they would, they would feel so much healthier. They would be so much more durable. There wouldn't be as many, like, one-shot knockouts where you're like, "Whoa, that got him?" 'Cause a lot of these guys, like, their brain is still dehydrated when they're in there fighting, 'cause it's only 24 hours after they rehydrate. That's not enough time to get to the brain.

    2. JD

      I would go to weigh-ins with you, and these guys would come in, like, they're looking like they had cancer.

    3. JR

      They look dead. Yeah.

    4. JD

      They... I would see them, and then they would IV in the back. Then I think they cut out IVs afterwards.

    5. JR

      Yep, cut out IVs.

    6. JD

      I remember being there with you and looking at these guys coming in.

    7. JR

      They were dying.

    8. JD

      They looked like they were on that fucking GLP for 10 years.

    9. JR

      [laughs]

    10. JD

      Like fucking Sharon Osbourne's daughter.

    11. JR

      [laughs]

    12. JD

      I mean, they were looking fucked up, Jack.

    13. JR

      Yeah, they looked dead. Some guys looked real... You remember when Anderson Silva fought Travis Lutter? Do you remember that fight?

    14. JD

      Yeah, the jujitsu guy from Texas?

    15. JR

      Exactly.

    16. JD

      Yes.

    17. JR

      He... That was the worst I ever saw anybody at a weigh-in.

    18. JD

      He looked really fucking skin-

    19. JR

      And again, this was not the ceremonial weigh-in like we have now. This was, like, the actual weigh-in, see if you can make the weight. And Travis couldn't walk. He was shuffling. He couldn't pick his legs up. His, his lips were cracked. Like, he, his body was dried out.

    20. JD

      That can't be good for you, like-

    21. JR

      Oh

    22. JD

      ... and then to pick it back up and then go throw rounds.

    23. JR

      Exactly.

    24. JD

      Throw punches at 8:00 the next night.

    25. JR

      Meanwhile, I mean, he was so depleted, but he got ahold of Anderson the first round and took him down, and that's what he wanted to do, and if Travis Lutter-

    26. JD

      He's Brazilian jujitsu in Texas?

    27. JR

      Yeah. Yeah.

    28. JD

      He has a school?

    29. JR

      He's, um, Kevin Holland's, uh, coach.

    30. JD

      Oh, shit. Is he?

  11. 37:3050:09

    Injury realities and the supplement stack: peptides, nootropics, creatine, and aging memory

    1. JD

      You still training?

    2. JR

      No.

    3. JD

      With a private? No more?

    4. JR

      No, I haven't... Over a year, I haven't done any rolling.

    5. JD

      I thought you had a guy coming in with you.

    6. JR

      I was for a while. I've a, I got a knee problem. Uh, it's much better now. I've been really working on it over the last six months, but it kept swelling after a while. The, the thing is, it would get better and, uh, I'd feel, it would feel pretty good, and then I'd hurt it again. And usually... I hurt it, like, a year ago hunting. I twisted it hunting. And then, um, I've, I've also hurt it, like, hitting the bag, too. Like, sometimes I just start wailing on the bag.

    7. JD

      You go off and you forget.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. JD

      You forget.

    10. JR

      And it's just the next day it's sore as fuck. It's like I don't have meniscus on one part of my knee, so I have to make sure that it doesn't get arthritic. You know what I mean? Because, like, I don't have to tell you, like, once your knee gets bad, it's a real problem.

    11. JD

      It's a problem.

    12. JR

      And so you gotta, like, walk that edge between when you don't have cartilage or you don't have, um, meniscus and your cartilage is getting bone on bone like that, like, you gotta be careful. You gotta be careful. They're getting real close to fixing shit. Real close. They're injecting, like, different kinds of gels in people's knees now that re- replace the meniscus, and they're also doing some new stem cell therapy where they go into the bone itself and it regenerates cartilage.

    13. JD

      That might be better. But that gel, they always work you with that gel.

    14. JR

      I think it's a new one, Joey. It's a, it's like a, it's, they call it a biological matrix.

    15. JD

      Right. You, you need to fucking get, like, a p- you need to get, like, a, uh, insurance approval and all that. Yeah, I did it. That's just... All those things. It's like when you see an ad for somebody.

    16. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    17. JD

      "Do you have problems sleeping? Buy this mouthpiece for $29.99." Or-

    18. JR

      I don't think you got what they have now, because this is just released in Germany.

    19. JD

      No, no, no. I'm just talking about-

    20. JR

      This is, this is brand new

    21. JD

      ... but this gel, like I'm just saying to you, the gel, the cortisone. I have friends with knee problems.

    22. JR

      Uh-huh.

    23. JD

      And they tell me what they go through, and they go to different doctors, and it's the same fucking, "We got cortisone for you. We got the gel. We're not gonna do the PRP, and we don't do stem cell." So you, Joe Regular, you don't do no reading. This is what happened to me with the fucking why I did the surgery in the first place. You had moved here, and I didn't know about Ways To World. If not, I wouldn't have never cut this knee the first time.

    24. JR

      Hmm.

    25. JD

      Never. Never. I didn't read up on it because when my wife was pregnant, I read up on all that shit and I was, I didn't wanna have the baby no more, 'cause it said once you're over 43, you'll die if you're giving birth. Like, so if you're not ready when you get older as a woman. You know, now women are having kids at 50s and fucking 55s.

    26. JR

      Hmm.

    27. JD

      But a woman has to be the... She has, like, a short window.

    28. JR

      Right.

    29. JD

      Then they have a lot of things that could go wrong with the pregnancy. When I read that, I got nervous for my wife. I'm like, "She's gonna die on the fucking table, and I'm stuck raising a girl. I don't know how to fucking raise a girl. You know, man, what am I gonna do here?" So I didn't really... I researched it a little bit. After I got the knee... After I went and I saw the fucking, the chisel and the fucking mallet on the table, I go, "We gotta look into this when I get out of here. Like, this is fucking insane." I would've never done the redo knee. I would've waited, shot it with stem cell, BPC'd it.

    30. JR

      Mm-hmm.

  12. 50:091:02:41

    Beating drug tests (badly): vinegar, Certo, Drano—and the probation saga

    1. JD

      Like iodine. You ever take iodine?

    2. JR

      No. Iodine?

    3. JD

      Yeah. Like, you, there's a pill or something, you take iodine to help you-

    4. JR

      You're supposed to do that if you get radiation poisoning

    5. JD

      ... listen, when the first piss test came out, they said you would take iodine.

    6. JR

      [laughs]

    7. JD

      So again, I-

    8. JR

      Did you put Clorox in your dick? [laughs]

    9. JD

      I put Clorox in my dick afterward because the iodine obviously didn't fucking work, okay? [laughs]

    10. JR

      [laughs] Can you imagine when they ran your piss through the fucking test machine, they'd be like, "What? What i- what is this?"

    11. JD

      Do you understand-

    12. JR

      "This isn't piss." [laughs]

    13. JD

      Do you understand, like, when, there's times I go, every morning I go out, I take my cup of coffee and I sit outside. I thank God, you know, the whole fucking bullshit story, and then it takes me somewhere. Like, after the second cup of coffee and one of these zins and a bong hit, your mind goes somewhere, and I think of chunks of my life and I go, "What the fuck was that?"

    14. JR

      Mm.

    15. JD

      Like, that was Joe. That was insanity. What about every time he used to come to my house to do the checkup, I never let him in. He came, like, 11 times in two years. I never let him in my house.

    16. JR

      [laughs]

    17. JD

      He wouldn't know I was in the house. He would put the sheriffs to come and sit outside my house for two hours.

    18. JR

      [laughs]

    19. JD

      Then they would leave. They're like, "We're not gonna... He's not home." I never let him in my house. I tortured that guy.

    20. JR

      That's hilarious.

    21. JD

      He could have sent me to prison. I still would've been in prison, but it was such a... Like, first it was the iodine, and then you fucking, you know, you're supposed to take 20 milligrams.

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. JD

      I mean, 200, whatever. I don't know. And my skin is burning. I'm fucking red in the face. I got itchies. So I stopped with the iodine. I still came back positive. Then I went on the fucking, uh, white vinegar.

    24. JR

      White vinegar?

    25. JD

      White vinegar with a fucking bottle of Gatorade on a Monday morning. Not a little vinegar, not red wine vinegar, the real vinegar that you clean your asshole with.

    26. JR

      [laughs]

    27. JD

      And douchebags and all that shit.

    28. JR

      Oh.

    29. JD

      Vinegar cleans you out. That's what w- women wash their monkey with vinegar because it takes all the fucking cat piss out of there and all the shit they got in there.

    30. JR

      [laughs]

  13. 1:02:411:07:30

    Boulder guilt and old crimes: chaos, shame, and the idea of making amends

    1. JD

      Like, it's 31 years, and I still won't go back to Boulder because of the shame I endured.

    2. JR

      [laughs]

    3. JD

      Seriously. Like, I won't go. And everybody goes, "Why don't you go back to Boulder?" Because I'm ashamed that that was such a beautiful city, and I treated it like it was Newark.

    4. JR

      Right. Right.

    5. JD

      Like, I did what I wanted. I would go to Kmart and hang out outside of fucking the, the lawnmower department, and people would come out with new lawnmowers, and the receipt would fly off. I'd get that receipt and go to Longmont and get that lawnmower for 400 and walk it up and go, "My mother bought me this. I don't want it no more." And I'd give them the receipt, and they'd give me 400 cash plus, plus tax. Who does that? That fucking Toys "R" Us, I took that thing down by myself with those Jeffrey bucks.

    6. JR

      [laughs]

    7. JD

      I took them down.

    8. JR

      What's a Jeffrey buck?

    9. JD

      They, it's like when you bring a, a stolen computer in there, and they give you, they won't give you cash. They'll give you Jeffrey bucks. So you have to spend it on, in the fucking store.

    10. JR

      Oh.

    11. JD

      You know how many... I had a million dollars in Jeffrey bucks at one time.

    12. JR

      [laughs]

    13. JD

      I was buying bicycles and fucking...

    14. JR

      [laughs]

    15. JD

      It's just, it just, I was an animal, and I feel really guilty about it today. I'm thinking of booking the Fox Theatre in Boulder-

    16. JR

      Yeah

    17. JD

      ... and doing, like, 'cause La Disia's opening back up, my Italian joint. So they called, and they said, "We're opening back up." And I'm like, "I'm thinking of doing Boulder, like Fox Theatre. Just take my lumps, apologize, donate to something there, and just call it a fucking night." 'Cause I still feel guilty, man. I'm old, but now I feel guilty about the damage. I put Boulder through fucking eight... I mean, I got chased through the mall by security, and I'm throwing fucking CDs at them.

    18. JR

      [laughs]

    19. JD

      I remember the Denver Broncos were playing Cleveland in '87, those big playoff games. Do you remember those, Jamie?

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. JD

      Talking about the mall one day, and everybody's in the hallway looking at TVs. I'm like, "Who's minding the stores?" I went into RadioShack, and I popped out the fucking CD player, brand new one, and just put the quarter on it and walked out like nothing. Who does that, dog?

    22. JR

      [laughs]

    23. JD

      That's animal, and I'm, I'm ashamed to admit this shit, but it was like you said. When you first went to Boulder the first time, you're like, "This must have been a fucking grocery store for Joey Diaz." And it was.

    24. JR

      That's exactly what I said when I went there. [laughs]

    25. JD

      It was. It was a shame.

    26. JR

      Everybody's so, they're so, like, peaceful and sweet.

    27. JD

      I brought chaos.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. JD

      Chaos. And it was too much. When I was in the prison, I brought chaos in there. I had my cell open. I did what I wanted. It was just too much. And I, to this day, it's... New York, you can shit like that because that's what New York is about. I was a fucking piece of shit in New York, too, but I don't feel guilty about that. I still walk around the city now.

    30. JR

      But so many pieces of shit in New York.

  14. 1:07:301:24:14

    What comedy built: broke beginnings, gratitude, helping others, and ‘karma business’

    1. JD

      Let me ask you something. If you wouldn't have gotten into this fucking thing, what would you, what would you think you'd be doing now?

    2. JR

      If I hadn't gotten into which one?

    3. JD

      This thing that we're doing. Stand-up comedy.

    4. JR

      The podcast?

    5. JD

      No.

    6. JR

      Oh, stand-up comedy.

    7. JD

      Stand-up comedy opened up everything else.

    8. JR

      What would I be doing? Uh, I don't know, man. I don't know. I probably would've fought again.

    9. JD

      Would you be a chef? Would you be ... I mean, I could paint you as a chef. You love to cook.

    10. JR

      Yeah, I do love to cook.

    11. JD

      Um, a chef.

    12. JR

      I would-

    13. JD

      A mason

    14. JR

      ... I would've found something that I enjoyed doing.

    15. JD

      What?

    16. JR

      I don't know. I would've figured it out.

    17. JD

      What's your second love?

    18. JR

      The, the real problem would be if I had a kid real young. So if, uh, you know, I know a bunch of my friends got married and had kids when they were like 22, 23. The pro- I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. [clears throat] But then that really limits your ability to just go for it, 'cause you have mouths to feed. That's a different animal. You know, I, I think about the early days of stand-up when I was 21, and how I had zero money. I mean zero.

    19. JD

      Zero.

    20. JR

      I had zero money. I barely could eat. [clears throat] I remember I had a, a big fucking jar of pennies and nickels, dimes and shit, and I remember rolling it all up so I could go get a sandwich. Like, I had no money. And so I r- I could imagine, like, if I was trying to do that, I said, "Well, I'm just gonna live like this for a couple years, and I think if I work hard enough, I could eventually start making money doing stand-up. And if I keep getting better, maybe I could be a professional." You know, that was the idea. It was never like, have a career. But if I had a kid and I had a wife, uh, there's no way I would've done it. [clears throat] There's no way. I would have to have gotten a job. And that's where a lot of people get into. You know, or maybe you think it's gonna be a good investment to get a house. It- which it is, but now you've got a mortgage. So you got a mortgage, you can't just fucking lose everything. I, I got my car repossessed. I was broke, man.

    21. JD

      [laughs]

    22. JR

      I was broke.

    23. JD

      Bro, I used to have to hide my clinical rush, they would repossess it.

    24. JR

      [laughs]

    25. JD

      Shit.

    26. JR

      Yeah. I mean, it was d- 100% check to check.

    27. JD

      I don't know-

    28. JR

      Never had any money in the bank

    29. JD

      ... I don't know if this ever happens to you, but it happens to me a lot now. And this is why I started this grateful shit, because there are days I pull up to my house, I don't know who lives there.

    30. JR

      Yeah.

  15. 1:24:141:35:25

    How Joey ‘found the switch’: being himself on stage, Mooney’s influence, and Brando’s cue-card trick

    1. JR

      But you did figure out how to do something on stage. That was the switch. And the switch was you figured out how to be Joey Diaz in the parking lot on stage.

    2. JD

      In, in stage.

    3. JR

      So-

    4. JD

      That was the ... That was killing me.

    5. JR

      But it went like that.

    6. JD

      Like that.

    7. JR

      I never saw anybody flip a switch from struggling on stage to crushing like you. I was like, "This is wild."

    8. JD

      And I'm gonna tell you some of the reasons. I was too focused on material. You're too focused on your fucking material. And you know what? At the end of the day, your material sucks. I've heard it already. And that's what I would think in my mind. So I would do better when I went up there just with one thought and attacked it.

    9. JR

      Mm.

    10. JD

      Do you know what I mean? I mean, it's hard to explain what I'm saying to you.

    11. JR

      Yeah. No, you ... What you, what you did was you treated the audience like they were your boys and we're all hanging out versus treat the audience like, "I'm a comic. Here's some jokes." Like when you first started, when I first ... When did I meet you? In '96?

    12. JD

      '97.

    13. JR

      '97. When I first met you, you were doing jokes.

    14. JD

      Right.

    15. JR

      Like you would go on stage and do jokes.

    16. JD

      And I would focus on the jokes on that paper.

    17. JR

      Yeah. Yeah.

    18. JD

      Don't focus on that. At 11:30 at the store, your jokes don't mean shit. They just saw three hours of top-notch comedy. What are you bringing to the table? You're gonna go up there and tell me what I saw on the news? And who taught us that? Paul Mooney, how to relax. He would just go up there, and in my mind, he was just vibing with the audience

    19. JR

      He did a lot of that, yeah

    20. JD

      And it worked, and I took that realm of relax

    21. JR

      Mooney taught us a lot

    22. JD

      Relax

    23. JR

      He was a real veteran. You know, he was like one of the only guys when we were there that was there during the prior years

    24. JD

      The prior years

    25. JR

      And was respected. He wasn't like one of those... There was a few guys that were still hanging around that had-

    26. JD

      No, no, no

    27. JR

      ... literally acts from the 1980s

    28. JD

      Garbage. They were still doing like Bruce Springsteen jokes. No

    29. JR

      Oh, it was terri- it was just bad

    30. JD

      But his laid back-

  16. 1:35:251:52:19

    Post-break: peeing, handicapped parking, PT discipline, MRSA scares, and new pain procedures

    1. JR

      Ooh. And we're back.

    2. JD

      That was a tremendous pee.

    3. JR

      [laughs]

    4. JD

      Oh my God. That-

    5. JR

      'Cause the worst is when you're trying to concentrate and you have to piss. Like you-

    6. JD

      No, that's the worst

    7. JR

      ... you can't form a sentence.

    8. JD

      That's the fucking worst.

    9. JR

      You can't relax.

    10. JD

      When you have to drive and you shit and you gotta pee.

    11. JR

      Oh.

    12. JD

      And I'm to an age where I just pull over.

    13. JR

      Yeah. Side of the road.

    14. JD

      Highway, whatever. I pull, I open up the both doors and I make believe I'm looking for something.

    15. JR

      [laughs]

    16. JD

      And that dick is out peeing. Like, I pee on the Little League field. And now I got, after surgery, they gave me a handicapped parking. I'm living like a doctor.

    17. JR

      [laughs]

    18. JD

      You don't know what life is until you have handicapped parking, dog. You just pull right up and people look at you.

    19. JR

      There's always a spot?

    20. JD

      Always.

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. JD

      Like four feet away.

    23. JR

      That's nice.

    24. JD

      When I got in the mail, dog, I was happy as ... That made me so happy. Fuck walking. When I go to events now in Philadelphia, I just pull up and shit. Put a neck brace on, walk out and shit. Oh, it's been beautiful, Joe.

    25. JR

      What do you have to do to get one of those?

    26. JD

      The doctor.

    27. JR

      That's it? So like what did you tell him?

    28. JD

      The doctor was like, "Oh, do you have it after surgery? I can get it for you for six months."

    29. JR

      Oh.

    30. JD

      And then he goes, "Hold on one second." He went online and he's like, "Dog, you qualify for everything. You got everything on this list. Everything. Go." And they gave it to me for fucking, like, three years.

  17. 1:52:192:24:58

    Mushrooms, stutters, and the next phase of life: psychedelics, allergies, and screen addiction

    1. JR

      Did you hear about that lady who had Alzheimer's, she couldn't talk anymore, they gave her five grams of psilocybin mushrooms-

    2. JD

      And she's singing opera now

    3. JR

      ... all of a sudden she came back.

    4. JD

      It's unbelievable.

    5. JR

      Started talking. They said she hadn't talked in a long time. She could remember things.

    6. JD

      I know for a fact, I got a good buddy of mine that stuttered, that was his childhood thing. Every time he smoked crack, you should have seen that motherfucker, not a strut in there. He talks to you straight.

    7. JR

      Paul, you know Paul Stamets, the mushroom expert? He's been on this podcast many times.

    8. JD

      No, no.

    9. JR

      He's a, an, a legitimate mycologist, like a scientist. He had a horrible stutter when he was a kid. Took 10 grams.

    10. JD

      Gone.

    11. JR

      Gone.

    12. JD

      Gone. It's unreal. And people will still go, "No, no, mushrooms are deadly. They're gonna kill you." Fuck you.

    13. JR

      Isn't that crazy?

    14. JD

      You need to see the devil every once in a while in your life.

    15. JR

      [laughs]

    16. JD

      And that's what people don't, they don't see the downside, because eating those mushrooms from time to time makes you step out, like THC does, and makes you look at yourself, and make like a judgment call on what the fuck you're doing with your life. That's what-

    17. JR

      What are you doing with your life? Are you chewing that fucking Zyn and talking at the same time? [laughs]

    18. JD

      Yeah. I don't know. I don't have big enough fucking gums, I guess. I don't know. It don't stay there.

    19. JR

      Yeah, it's, I, the, the real problem is that it's illegal. You know what they should do with that? You know what they did with Colorado with 39% tax? Make mushrooms 100%. Tax it 100%. We'll still buy 'em, people will still buy 'em. Make it legal, tax it 100%. You know how much fucking money they would generate? And I guarantee you ... Well, I was gonna say people wouldn't be doing more mushrooms, but they definitely would.

    20. JD

      If you grew-

    21. JR

      But it'd be good for everybody

    22. JD

      ... listen, the only thing that stalls people from mushrooms is the taste. Most people put it in the grinder, and then they put it in capsules, and they do it that way. All different things.

    23. JR

      There's, that should not be a hurdle in 2026.

    24. JD

      When you told me you were gonna get that property a couple years ago, which you didn't get-

    25. JR

      Mm-hmm

    26. JD

      ... I thought you were gonna grow mushrooms out there. Like, get somebody to set it up, and Joe Rogan's Mushrooms.

    27. JR

      Well, I would never do that.

    28. JD

      With your fucking recipe, like.

    29. JR

      No, it's, that's, that's not legal. I would, uh, always get it from-

    30. JD

      Not in Texas, I mean.

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